when they started the insider program. If the good articles cost money, how good are the free articles?

You stole my naked boot avatar!

Maybe someone at ESPN wants us to be a, ‘dirt on our face—don’t look at them’ underdog. I’m beginning to think that someone at ESPN has some money on some Denver Players in ‘Fantasy’ and want others to go somewhere else. I hate the mainline media. They are a bunch of money-hungry people that not only never played the game (even as a kid) I think some of them have never watched a game.

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What a vent
I feel better now
be still heart
be kind Mike
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Screw ‘em!

LB and RB. I mean, there has got to be more than 4 teams out there who has a worse LB-cast – the Broncos at least have DJ!

The RB-ranking is plain ridicolus – the Bronco-backs should be in the top 15 every single season as long as Shanny is in town!

They are covering 32 teams, and have to look at what we were last year, and who we have brought in. We were not very good last year, and we haven’t brought in any big name free agents. Untill we prove them wrong, we will be considered a midlle of the pack team – and with good reason.

I dont care about those $x%x@ morons anymore. In the big picture it doesnt matter that these clowns think Denver is bad. If anyone had half a brain over there all they need to do is look at history of the Broncos and NFL to see Denver has not had back to back losing seasons since 1971-72. Thats ok. The only ranking I can find some logic to is the RB situation. Even if I disagree 100%. They should realize without a “name”rb last season t and OL troubles the Broncos still was ranked 9th in the NFL in rushing. So I say let them eat crow in the end

What do these people get paid for? ESPN’s “blog” group has now split into 8 divisional “experts.” Is it really hard for one person to know what he is talking about, relative to 4 teams? Can we expect that the divisional “expert” will watch all games played by his 4 teams, and that he’ll have the technical knowledge to know what he is looking at? (That’s a definite no on the latter point for Bill Williamson.)

What makes a columnist an Insider? Is it just a matter of saying that they are one? I mean, Mike Lobardi at SI is clearly an insider. He worked for 23 years in the league, for 5 different teams. But a former newspaper columnist? Sure, he has some phone numbers and some people to talk to, but he only knows what people tell him. He’s a repeater only.

I will flat-out claim that I know a lot more football than most of these people ESPN passes off as Insiders. I know more about Broncos football than any of them, because I watch every play of every Broncos game more than once. I think there are 30-40 MHR regulars who can accurately make both claims.

The point is not that we’re so great, but that they’re so subpar, that a bunch of non-professionals are better than they are, while they collect a check to bloviate nonsense. I guess Rush Limbaugh has been proving for 20 years that you don’t have to have a command of any facts to get paid to act like you do. I guess, kudos to the ESPN crew for following the sterling example of the one-time ESPN employee. Viva infotainment!!!

Even if one national football writer did the research to discover that the Broncos have a tremendous upside going into this season…he would be ostracized by his fellow sports reporters who prefer to remain in the depths of the cave regarding the Broncos. That writer would probably be ridiculed right out of a job.

Most of us here at MHR have seen the light and can expect to be mocked when we try to explain the truth to those still in the dark. At least until the Broncos drop a bomb right on their cave of abysmal ignorance by having a great season. Right now the Broncos are the team everybody loves to hate.

I could just as easily go with a Ayn Rand analogy about how the sports media would ridicule anyone who tried to deviate from the norm of mediocrity in sports reporting by actually doing their due diligence when reporting on a team.

I was just mentioning that Rush’s command of facts is pretty spotty, which is very well-documented (eg smoking cigarettes doesn’t cause cancer, America is proven to have the best health care in the world, the United States had more acreage of forests in 1987 than in 1952.) I think that such an observation is appropriate in the context of media criticism, because he’s the most widely listened to mass media figure in this country. He’s fast and loose with facts, and so are many at ESPN. In both cases, I am not qualified to discern if they choose to be wrong to advance an agenda, or if they just don’t know what they are talking about. I’d guess it’s probably some mixture of both, but I have no way of knowing. That was my whole point.

I made no commentary on Rush’s opinions or political orientation, because you are correct that that doesn’t belong on a football site. Feel free to criticize Olbermann too, as he is just as open to it as Rush.

And not just because he was agreeing with me, though that’s a good enough reason, lol. I think he was just saying that the ESPN crowd often shoot off their mouths without knowing the facts and uses Rush Limbaugh as another example.

Limbaugh is almost legendary in that regard, as is Keith Olberman. BTW, didn’t Olberman had something to do with ESPN? Hmm. Well the point is that he is not an honest, deep thinking conservative like somebody like, oh, George Will. Regardless of what whether or not yopu agree with George Will, you know he has thought it through and is honest.

And I disagree about talking politics here sometimes.

I was leafing through their rankings by position and notice that for the top 25 LB in the NFL DJ Williams didn’t even make the wait until next year list. Yeesh. They did list a Bronco as the #3 center in the league, but it was Ben Hamilton, not Tom Nalen. Que?!!!

we will see. This is the reason helmets and jock straps are worn. I personally feel K2 will give a good account of himself in training camp and during the season. I am anxious to see some blocking and tackling.