Broncos Training Camp Day 2 - A.M. Notes and Quotes
Day 2 of workouts for the Broncos is underway. Following from afar, I have to rely on various sources that are live at the practice facility. I will rotate around based on the information I find.
Here is what I have found out about the AM session --
Another Player Done For 2008 -- First it was Carlton Powell. Now WR Edell Sheppard is done for the year after teearing his ACL and hamstring during workouts yesterday. While Sheppard wasn't a name most people were looking to make an impact in 2008, it is never a good thing when you lose some for the year, especially when rosters are already thin becuase of the 80-man limit.

Here are some thoughts from Lindsay Jones from the Denver Post and her Broncos Blog --
The starters on the d-line during the first set of team drills had Ebenezer Ekuban and Dwayne Robertson at tackle, with Elvis Dumervil and Jarvis Moss at D-End. Moss was with the second-team later in the workout. The starting offensive line was LT Ryan Clady, LG Ben Hamilton, C Tom Nalen, RG Chris Kuper and RT Ryan Harris.
- Speaking of kickers, Matt Prater made 7-of-8 attempts this morning, all from at least 40 yards.
- Right guard Montrae Holland was out of practice again, and spent the second half of the workout pushing a sled. There was speculation on the radio on Friday evening that he had made weight between sessions, but his exclusion from the Saturday practice proved that to be false. Holland spent time in the second practice on Friday on the scout team defense — never a good sign.
- Talked to rookie WR Eddie Royal about the injury to rookie DT Carlton Powell. (Royal and Powell were college teammates at Virginia Tech, and are roommates here in Denver.) Powell is out for the season after injurying his right Achilles tendon during conditioning drills earlier this month. "We were just going through a little warmup," Royal said. "When he first did it, I didn’t think it was serious, just a sprained ankle or something. When I found out how bad it was, that hit me hard, being so close to him." Royal said Powell was really upset when the injury first happened, but is more upbeat after having surgery. "He’s already talking about coming back," Royal said.
A couple thoughts.
First, needless to say Montrae Holland's attitude towards this year's camp is a bit disappointing. While I expect he is going to work hard to get back into playing shape, it was a situation that was completely unnecessary. Holland was one of the "sure things" on the O-Line and now that is in question. Best laid plans, I guess.
The news on Matt Prater looks good. 7/8 from beyond 40 yards is good to see. Let's face it, if you get the fortune of strapping it on in the NFL you should be able to kick field goals from inside 40 yards. The good ones are able to get it done from outside the 25 yard line. That is the area that Elam was starting to slip and where Prater will need to step up.
It is good to see that Carlton Powell's spirits are high. We all know that he has a tough road in front of him and we all wish him the best. Luckily, between Brandon Stokley and Ebenezar Ekuban, we have enough experience coming back from such an injury. It's going to be an uphill battle to be sure.
And now some quotes form this morning....
HEAD COACH MIKE SHANAHAN
On how LB Boss Bailey fits in with the Broncos --
"He's been great. He did a great job during the offseason conditioning program and adjusted to our system very quickly. He's got the ability to cover the tight end by himself. He plays as a coach... So far so good."
On how LB Niko Koutouvides has played --
"Good. We've been watching him for the last 17 days, and (we) try to get the pads on and the chance the evaluate everybody day by day. That's what all the preseason is about-To get a pecking order and see these guys compete and see what they can do in special situations. It's only the second day."
On DE Jarvis Moss' health --
"Jarvis is fine. He's had 17 practices so far, and I'm sure he's looking forward to getting back into football shape. Any time you finish the last part of the season with an injury, it's always a little tough to get back in the offseason. He did a great job in the offseason conditioning program. Hopefully he will continue on improving and be ready for the first preseason game."
On WR Eddie Royal --
"It doesn't take any long to realize that he'll become a top notch receiver as well as an excellent returner. He's in great shape, and he's a strong kid. But there is still a learning curve. Hopefully he will improve every day."
LB BOSS BAILEY
On adjusting to his first training camp with the Broncos --
"It is awesome. You have guys flying around. You can just tell from the guys' energy level that everybody has bought into what we are doing and what type of flow we have on defense. That's what you want, man. We had major carry over from practicing in the summer. We didn't have to reinstall anything-We just went right at it and kept things going."
On trying to hold back from full contact during practice --
"It can be (frustrating) sometimes, but everybody does this. We did the same thing in Detroit, so you learn how to get used to that and that's what preseason is for. We are just fighting to get to that first game."
On how different it is for him in the Denver defensive system --
"I've been through three or four defensive coordinators in Detroit, so I have seen some of everything. It's not hard for me to adjust for anything at all. As long as the coaches explains it right and it makes sense then I'm all for it."
On the Broncos' locker room environment --
"It's been fun. We have a lot of clowns in there. From the defensive linemen to the defensive backs, even the linebacking corps. We have some clowns in that locker room. It's been real fun. I've been enjoying myself."
On who is the ‘class clown' of the locker room --
"Hamza (Abdullah), Fox (Domonique Foxworth) and Nate (Webster). The whole defensive line they are always clowning. It's fun. It's just fun to be around them. "
On playing with his older brother, CB Champ Bailey --
"It's a lot more easier for me to be back on the field with my brother. It's a comforting thing for me. It might be for him, too. I don't know-You might have to ask him for that. It's just been fun playing with him and watching and learning and trying to steal some moves from him."
BRONCOS TIGHT END TONY SCHEFFLER
On the chemistry between him and Jay Cutler --
"It's good to be out there and taking some reps with him. He's a great quarterback, so him and Patrick Ramsey and Darrel Hackney have all been getting reps from the top down. They are top notch quarterbacks."
On what he liked about his performance in practice this morning --
"The biggest thing for me is that I got my wind back today. I struggled a little but yesterday, just keeping my breath and that sort of thing. Foot felt great today. I didn't notice the whole practice, so it feels good."
On being a ‘go-to' receiving option --
"I think when the third down comes around, I'll be one of the guys that Jay likes to come to. I just got to work on getting the ball in the air and seeing because I have been out of it for a little bit."
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wow - great logo
Remember: New England won 18 last year; Oakland's won 19 in a half-decade
/The great Dane - formerly known as Claaaaas!
by Claus Vestergaard on Jul 26, 2008 12:13 PM MDT 0 recs
Good work Guru
I really appreciate your quotes from Lindsay Jones. One thing about Coach Shanahan, you never want to get in his doghouse, but if you do, you are given the opportunity to get out. It will take a lot of hard work and watching of the diet, but Holland can work his way back. I think he will. Regarding Powell, I think nearly everyone on the MHR was impressed with this young man based on the interview you did with him. I hope that as a community we can show support and encourage him to get back on the field next year. We’re in your corner Carlton!
What lies behind us and what lies before us are small matters compared to what lies within us. - Emerson
by firstfan on Jul 26, 2008 12:57 PM MDT 0 recs
DT depth
I heard the Jr. Broncos put their all-star cornerback Dunta Robinson on the pup list today. I think that there may be a trade possibility here. If we give them fox, then they could give us…........................do they have any good D tackles?
Michael Fabiano really knows nothing about football outside of regression analysis and stat extrapolation. If it doesn’t have to do with fantasy football, his opinion is worthless.
by kwool79 on Jul 26, 2008 4:53 PM MDT 0 recs
No, they don't outside of Amobi Okoye.
Michael Fabiano really knows nothing about football outside of regression analysis and stat extrapolation. If it doesn’t have to do with fantasy football, his opinion is worthless.
by kwool79 on
Jul 26, 2008 4:59 PM MDT
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Taylor Jacobs
I see they re-signed Jacobs. Not a bad player to have back.
by Colinski on Jul 26, 2008 5:03 PM MDT 0 recs
really good
to hear about Prater. Hopefully this is what he’s been doing all along and that is why they cut Garrett or whoever the other guy was (sorry if you are reading this other guy).
Interesting that they are going with Ek again on the inside. I thought for sure it would be Thomas and Robertson. Do you think the move to the inside has become permanent, or will he still see time at DE?
Jason
The Hanging Curve
by poorboywilly on Jul 26, 2008 6:12 PM MDT 0 recs
He will see time at DE if he holds up
ok to the wear and tear of 1st and 2nd down DT work. Mckinley should be rotating with Ek to keep them both fresh. Thomas should properly be starting this year out as a 3rd down and pass rush specialist, as those are truly his best assets, and he would be relieving DRob in that scenario. As the season wears on Thomas may earn more downs, but this is looking like a pretty tight rotation to me…not a lot of room for error.
Figure we have Mallard, Harris and Crowder available, and I still think we need one more guy. We’ll see if someone steps up or if they have to look at the waiver wire later….
Mountains, forest, sea: these render man fierce, but yet do not destroy the man.
by styg50 on
Jul 26, 2008 8:10 PM MDT
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I forgot about Peterson
I would have liked to have seen him yesterday when he was practicing with the first team. As far as Eks move being permanent (sorry misread your question) I think this is a flyby, and that tomorrow we may see yet another player lining up next to DRob. Any one of them could put the whole issue to rest, but chances are Shanny will keep looking until he knows whether anyone can anchor well enough in the middle to be his rush defense answer.
I would imagine that Ek, Peterson and Mckinley will get a first look due to their veteran status and savvy, with Peterson and Mckinley being pretty good all around packages, though Peterson has more upside. It would really be great if Stephen Harris stepped it up though, as he should be a great addition to the run defense once he gets a hold of the learning curve. He has the bulk and strength and he can anchor well, so I am hoping he shows some of that early in camp this year.
Mountains, forest, sea: these render man fierce, but yet do not destroy the man.
by styg50 on
Jul 26, 2008 8:22 PM MDT
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Yes, but
the DE’s are the strength of our D Line. I am not so sure moving one of our best Ends to Tackle is the answer. If any DE’s go to Tackle I think it will be Peterson or Clemons. They have an extra 30 lbs. on EE. I think those two were both on the bubble at End but might be an answer at Tackle. Just a thought.
What lies behind us and what lies before us are small matters compared to what lies within us. - Emerson
by firstfan on
Jul 26, 2008 9:31 PM MDT
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My comments don't make a lot of sense above
I agree that Peterson is a better look as an all around DE/DT package. I think Ek edges him out if the Broncos think that Peterson would look better as a DE on running downs while Ek looks better as a rushing DT on passing downs. Lots of combinations are possible. Harris could be a key, as he has the size and agility to effectively man the DT spot opposite DRob, but I have doubts as to his readiness for that role. I’m not sure Clemons really belongs in any discussions just yet. Hope I’m wrong and that he is that extra guy we need.
Here is a though: HT talks about how one dominant DT makes the other look good. Well maybe they are just going down the list of possible “others” to see if HT is right?? Also, they may find some alchemical combination that was heretofor unexpected if they keep playing and tweaking things.
A last thought: though DEs are the strength of our Dline, I think most of that strength comes from our younger DEs, while Ekuban’s versatility may be his greatest asset. Lots of good stuff to think about no doubt!! Enjoy your time in training camp, wish I could be there!
Mountains, forest, sea: these render man fierce, but yet do not destroy the man.
by styg50 on
Jul 27, 2008 12:15 AM MDT
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Good Thoughts.
It looks as if I will be teaming up with BroncoBear and Diehard for a couple of practices. We will keep you posted. I thought the Dallas scrimmages on the 13th and 14th were open to the public, but they are not. I am debating whether or not to dust off my 1960 sneak into training camp skills.If worse comes to worse, I should be out of jail by game time on the 16th.
What lies behind us and what lies before us are small matters compared to what lies within us. - Emerson
by firstfan on
Jul 27, 2008 4:26 PM MDT
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Still early..
however I like what I hear so far despite the unfortunate injuries that have occurred. Hopefully Holland will get back in shape and get our O-line going.
by weazel on Jul 26, 2008 7:02 PM MDT 0 recs
Thanks Guru
Great to hear about Prater’s accuracy. Of course, the important thing is, can he do it with the game on the line? No way will he be as automatic as Elam under pressure but maybe he’ll do well enough to stay with the team and grow into it. I feel bad for Powell. I guess the way to look at it is he’ll be an addition to next year’s draft class. The more I hear the more I think Royal’s going to get game time at the receiver position sooner than expected. Ekuban at tackle and Moss at end? Must have been the nickle package. Hope the injuries don’t snowball like they did last year.
"In the empty spaces - lacunae, vacuums, pauses, voids, black holes - new things begin. We are born anew from the unexplored space, the badlands, the outlaw territory." - Sam Keen
by spock on Jul 26, 2008 7:08 PM MDT 0 recs
Edell Shepherd out for season w/ torn ACL
I see Shepherd’s injury was serious. He was a long-shot to make the roster. Best wishes to a speedy recovery.
by Colinski on Jul 26, 2008 7:38 PM MDT 0 recs
redundant information
Sorry about repeating information from above, I’ll try to read more thoroughly in the future.
by Colinski on
Jul 26, 2008 7:44 PM MDT
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Marcus Thomas
Has anyone heard anything about how Marcus Thomas looks? It does’nt sound good to have a veteran DE in Ekuban moved over to DT when you have a second year pick in Thomas sitting.
by SoCalBronco on Jul 26, 2008 11:45 PM MDT 0 recs
Thomas
first, i haven’t heard anything, but what we already know about him may ease any concern you are feeling regarding him living up to his potential.
His greatest asset is his explosiveness and quickness, and his all around athleticism for a big guy. He is properly a sack and pressure specialist who would be out of his element sinking down and prioritizing lane structure for his LBs. That isn’t to say that he can’t do that, just that he is MUCH better at wreaking havoc. It doesn’t seem unusual that a young player would be expected to play to his strengths early, while filling in where needed, and for Thomas that means passing situations. He is still a few years away from being an everydown kind of guy, and even if he was, I have doubts that Denver would ever think to employ him in an everydown type manner except situationally. The good news is that he suits an attacking, aggressive defense very well, so when Denver gets early leads, or at least establishes momentum on offense, he will probably be one of the guys called in to start heating up the water in the backfield.
But when the defense needs consistent, conservative runstopping, I don’t expect to see his number called. Yet.
Mountains, forest, sea: these render man fierce, but yet do not destroy the man.
by styg50 on
Jul 27, 2008 12:06 AM MDT
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Thanks styg...
I expected a rotational Dinterior lineman to be part of the game plan again. My concern was that a DE was lining up with the first team as a DT ahead of Thomas. I have been reading this site for over a year and it just occured to me to participate. Thanks again.
by SoCalBronco on
Jul 27, 2008 12:34 AM MDT
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Welcome SoCalBronco
Good to see you comment.
What lies behind us and what lies before us are small matters compared to what lies within us. - Emerson
by firstfan on
Jul 27, 2008 4:29 PM MDT
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I feel real good about my statement that Eddie Royal will be our #2 guy next year, maybe even this year.
I am very encouraged to say the least. :)
If God is not a Bronco fan, then WHY are sunsets Blue and Orange? - Jon Tollerud 5/22/08
The Quest ~ TSG 5/19/08
by Zappa on Jul 27, 2008 9:45 PM MDT 0 recs




















