MHR University - Researching the Opponent
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We’ll still have an article from time to time, but I’m switching gears to start the game preps against our opponents, and to assist our terrific writers and staff with some projects of their own. My weekly game preps will take the place of the University series until the season ends (hopefully sometime in 2009!).
In the meantime, as the reloading season comes to a close, let’s take a look at how a coordinator evaluates his opponent.
Down and distance tendencies are the biggest and most well known variables studied by a coordinator. It’s time consuming stuff at the HS level, because you have to rely on scouts (most teams use film for player tendencies and system breakdowns) who themselves are rarely paid professionals. At the pro level, the work is done for you. The information is scouted, computerized, and either put on a chart or available from an assistant at the push of a button.
But there are some fascinating issues beyond down and distance.
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When an offense substitutes a player, it’s not always because someone is tired. Perhaps the team has certain play tendencies when the sub is brought in. Our offense used to use a particular FB to hit short yardage sometimes, but we had another “special” play. Sometimes we would sub a HB for the FB (someone faster) and either run strong side in a sweep with the HB, or run a “dive” play on the weak side with the sub. The formation we would run did not involve a #2 receiver, instead we had an extra TE on the LT’s hip. Cute, right?
It was more complex than that. If the opposing defense showed it was adjusting for the sweep, we motioned the strongside TE left to help with the dive. If the opposing defense showed it was adjusting for the dive, the weakside TE motioned out to the #2 WR position, pulling away a defender. Again, cute. Except our opponents did research.
The play lost its charm because our opponents figured it out. We thought we had a nifty play, and we did for awhile. But once we brought in a sub at FB, teams knew how to disguise coverage and how to read our approach. Did we scrap the play?
Here’s the brilliance of our offensive coordinator. The play was a set-up. It was run for four games one season, worked well, and tanked in the fifth game. We ran the play at least once every game thereafter in the season. When we hit our postseason, we ran the play, but with a twist. The sub came in, and our opponents knew what to do. We motioned the weakside TE out to WR (indicating the weakside dive) and instead hit the strongside TE for a short pass (that went for a long distance). The lesson? The word is “tendencies”, not “sure fire predictions”.
But there are other considerations besides down and distance and substitutions. Certain formations, combined with certain motions give clue to intent. The score differential also clues us in to how an opponent makes decisions. Even a coach’s attitude.
I remember one of the teams we played that was rarely a challenge. It wasn’t just the coach, but a combination of factors (including funds). At any rate, the head coach of this team was there most of the time I was a defensive coordinator for my program. He had a terrible tendency. Whenever a play went against him (for example, a turnover, a “bad” call by an official, or a big gain by our offense) this guy couldn’t help himself. He would almost always call a blitz that brought the house. Maybe it was anger, or maybe he wanted to fire up his team. Either way, we seemed to read his blitzes pretty well based on how red he got. Simple, but effective.
When prepping a game (as the defensive coordinator), I divided my work by the following. Most of the work went into player tendencies and game film. Down and distance tendencies came next. Then I looked at the following:
- Does the offense have to play a back-up due to a starter injury? Can we exploit that?
- What are other teams doing against the team that works, doesn’t work?
- What kind of QB do I face? Is he a scrambler? Does he get his passes out quick? How strong is his arm? Does he have any “tells” to indicate the play? How does he handle pressure?
- Where is the weak spot on the OL? What (if anything) do they do to adjust for it?
- How does the RB do his job? Is he fast, or a bulldozer. What are his tells? Is he a receiving threat?
- What kind of WRs do I face? Do they run out the play if the play is a run play? (This is the biggest tell in HS football, and it shouldn’t be on a good team). Do they block for the runner, or show a route?
- Is the TE an effective blocker? Is he an effective receiver?
- Does the FB ever run or receive?
- How does the opposing team come out of the huddle (again, “tells”).
- Does a player in motion indicate a play to either side, shoring up a side, a technique to read the defenses zone versus man coverage, or a specific play?
By now, you’ve noticed that “tells” are a big deal. The biggest indicators are foot placement (where they are pointed) and where a player is looking just before where he is finally looking at the snap (his second to last look). At the pro level most tells are caught and trained out, so it is rarely a factor. At the HS level, surprisingly few teams focus on tells.
Offenses look at factors too. Again, down and distance comes first. Then…
- Who on the defense is a poor tackler?
- Who on the defense is slow?
- Who plays zone and who plays man on certain plays, and where are the holes?
- What kind of assignments do the DTs run?
- Is the defensive coordinator patient? Is he aggressive? Does he cover the big play?
- Does the defense shut down inside runs? Outside runs? How is the pass defense?
- Is he a “shifter”? (At the HS level a defensive line shift is a gamble, depending on how well the other team adjusts. The shift loses favor in the higher levels of play. I was a shifter.)
- What do the LBs do to “tell” a blitz?
- What is the weak spot on the DL?
- Is our depth at WR better than their depth at DB?
- What kind of SAF do they have? Does he get pulled easily? (In other words, can certain events cause him to be out of position for a play elsewhere on the field?)
Who was my best friend in doing research? You guessed it. My opposite number on my team. I depended on the OFF Coordinator to read my defenses, to look for the holes on my team, our tells, my tendancies. I did the same for him. It's a painful process to be told "Here are your weaknesses", but a good coordinator should embrace such advice. We can develop blind spots as coaches, and miss things. We have to set aside our egos, and be willing to take blunt advice about what we need to change. If we don't, the opponent will show us during a game, and that is even more painful.
The preceding is not all encompassing, but I hope it gives you an idea of some of the considerations. It is also based on the HS level, and nowhere near the complexity of the pros. At the pro level, “tells” are almost (but not completely) eliminated. The profiles on opposing teams and coaches are much, much more in-depth. The data gathered at the pro level is available in seconds to the coach, and can be provided to him by assistants instead of rummaging through paperwork on the sideline. The pro level is computerized.
And still, somehow, the game is still determined by the mind of the coach but more heavily by the athleticism, courage, and intelligence of the players who are actually playing the game.
Any questions about this subject, or any other football related topics? Drop us a comment below! Remember, no question is too simple. We’re all here to help. Also, let me know if there is a subject you want to read about.
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(By the way, I answered "Both" in the poll. It is very tedious work to breakdown film. On the other hand, if I was being paid to do it at the pro level...)
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Another great post.
Thanks HT.
What lies behind us and what lies before us are small matters compared to what lies within us. - Emerson
by firstfan on Jul 28, 2008 6:43 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
I voted both as well, although as interesting as it might sound to break down game film..
I think I would pass on the job all the same. :)
If God is not a Bronco fan, then WHY are sunsets Blue and Orange? - Jon Tollerud 5/22/08
The Quest ~ TSG 5/19/08
by Tim Lynch on Jul 28, 2008 7:41 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
This is my favorite U
I’m true to the black and gold of CU, but MHR U classes are more fun. Plus I can do my research with a beer in my hand.
I miss Al
by birkheac on Jul 28, 2008 8:49 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
Excellent Post HT
I enjoyed the article. Have you encountered an offensive coordinator who took the analysis as a personal attack? How rare are such occurrences?
Victor Frankl:
What man actually needs is not a tensionless state but rather the striving and struggling for some goal worthy of him. What he needs is not the discharge of tension at any cost, but the call of a potential meaning waiting to be fulfilled by him.
by wyoeng on Jul 28, 2008 10:01 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
No.
When I was at the middle school level we didn’t do oppo research at all, nor did we critique each other much. At the HS level I worked with one OFF Coord for years, and only briefly with anyone else. I never had a problem at all. The biggest clashes (and these were civil too) were fighting over players for defense or offense. I’m glad to say that I never had a problem at the HS level with another coach.
For myself, I looked forward to critiques of the defense. I can always question myself, but until someone else gives me feedback, I can’t be 100% sure. I really liked assistants who would speak up and question things too.
"Greater is an army of sheep led by a lion, than an army of lions led by a sheep" Defoe
by Steve Nichols on Jul 29, 2008 3:14 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Real football to discuss
This is the kind of real football information that makes for very intriguing dialogue with serious football fans. I think it is interesting to project more of these game planning tendencies to the Broncos and Shanahan.
Shanahan as we know is well known for creating mis-matches through the use of offensive formations. He became notorious for it when he had Shannon Sharpe at TE. In essence, Shanahan determines his opponents defensive tendencies toward certain formations, then he exploits those defensive calls, with varied personnel to create a mismatch.
Shanny surprised the Colts last year, with an unexpected formation, utilizing multiple TEs, when we ran down their throats in the first half, and for over 225 yards for the game. In essence we had power personnel (2 TEs) disguised in non-tight formations.
By the time the Colts adjusted we had moved the ball up and down on them, the problem was we could not convert the touchdowns, and we know what happens when you settle for Field Goals against Peyton Manning.
Much like Belichik who likes versatile defensive players, so they can carry out varied, and often surprising assignments, Shanahan also has a special affinity for offensive players who can play varied positions. Like TEs who can also play WR, or TEs who can also play fullback. Or receivers who can run the ball. It is why guys like Nate Jackson, or Chad Mustard always seem to stick around. I believe Shanny is planning on using Royal for a lot of reverses and end arounds this year and years to come. And of course Shanny has always loved double and sometimes triple TE formations, because of the mismatches it can create, especially if you have a Scheffler with 4.5 speed who can get down field.
Even as Shanny has his pet plays and formations, he is known to be an offensive innovator, because he comes up with new surprises every year, which gives the Broncos a significant edge. No matter what happens in game 1, I believe Shanny will be saving some unexpected plans for the Chargers in game 2. If we can get ahead early, and score 28 at home, I believe we will surprise the Chargers with a victory.
by The Gun Young on Jul 28, 2008 11:00 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
Great points all!
"Greater is an army of sheep led by a lion, than an army of lions led by a sheep" Defoe
by Steve Nichols on Jul 29, 2008 3:20 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Excellent as always, HT
Honestly, I can think of no better job than to break down film and look for tendencies,
Do you (or anyone) remember hearing something about John Elway having a tell at some point in his career? I don’t remember details but I think it had something to do with him licking his hands coming up to center being a pass vs a run.
by MattR on Jul 29, 2008 12:51 AM MDT reply actions 0 recs
I recall this
but I can’t comment as to its accuracy. there was also something about the number of pats he gave the ball in the backfield….
Mountains, forest, sea: these render man fierce, but yet do not destroy the man.
by Jeremy Bolander on Jul 29, 2008 1:09 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
For a while, he would slap the ball before passing, but not before a pump fake. Some defenders said it didn’t matter because the pass came out too quickly to respond to the slap, though.
by Hooper on Jul 29, 2008 2:27 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
I have to go with Styg and hooper.
I heard about it, but don’t remember much.
I do know that Elway had a habit (not a tell) coming out of college where his throwing arm was too far out from his body on throws. He developed a technique (thanks to his QB coach with the Broncos) of thinking about “brushing his ear” (even though he didn’t literaly brush on throws). Elway supposedly felt this key in jumping to the next level of his game.
"Greater is an army of sheep led by a lion, than an army of lions led by a sheep" Defoe
by Steve Nichols on Jul 29, 2008 3:19 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Speaking as a coach...
Breaking down film is boring as all get out but you have to do it or the opposing coach has one up on you before you even step on the floor (or field in the case of football).
Elway is in, Zimm is in but don't forget: Floyd Little, Randy Gradishar, Steve Atwater & Terrel Davis
by BlueNOrangeNIdaho on Jul 29, 2008 7:13 AM MDT reply actions 0 recs
Amen.
I hated breaking down film. On the other hand, when you find something that makes a perfect point for the players, and you take it to them and you see the lights go on their head, it’s like magic!
One of my assistants found a few perfect (and I mean p-e-r-f-e-c-t) films that he slowed down to demonstrate the difference between lines that fire off of the snap first. It was beyond dramtic what an impact it made, not just on the players, but even me! It fit in perfectly with a class I had been to on coaching defensive lines, but made the point to a tee. But reseaching films? Blech!
Now if I can get a cold beer, a bucket of shrimp, and pull up a chair with Styg someday and go over some pro film, man!, that’ll be Heaven on Earth right there!
"Greater is an army of sheep led by a lion, than an army of lions led by a sheep" Defoe
by Steve Nichols on Jul 29, 2008 2:40 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Great lesson
I am intrigued by the computerized approach to NFL analysis. I would like to know more about the system(s) that are used in the NFL and how they are used. I don’t know if you know much about that topic HT, but I could see a good lesson there.
"It's the first time that I've probably ever seen a 260 pound back run into a free safety and go flat on his back, I mean it was exciting." ~John Elway
by jibbons on Jul 29, 2008 9:05 AM MDT reply actions 0 recs
First,
...go to the left panel on the MHR Front page. There is a subject box listing tons of categories for MHR. One of them is MHR University, and you can go through the archives. My favorite subject in football is systems, and quite a few of the systems are the subjects of some of the articles.
As far as computers go, I know very little about their use in the NFL from a few seminars we got sent to (by our very generous Athletic Director). I’m by no means an expert in computers at the pro level. I’ve discussed a little about what I saw in some of the articles (such as the computerized model that shows the zone shapes and ranges that individual players use, instead of the commonly misperceived “circle”). We used some computers for help at the HS level, but most of that was done by assistants with much more computer knowledge than I. This included down and distance stats for oppo research, and even editing game film. Most of our paper work was put on hard drive (with disk back-up) to be printed. Other than that, young guys on the staff brought me stuff they had done, and I had no idea how the did it! : )
"Greater is an army of sheep led by a lion, than an army of lions led by a sheep" Defoe
by Steve Nichols on Jul 29, 2008 2:47 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
I wish my high school team could play yours, HT.
Or better yet, you could come coach for us! You seem like the kind of football mind that could produce years of excellence at any program, and you’d be welcome at ours. My coaches have a similar approach to film study, looking for any cues the opposing team might give off while searching for any weaknesses, particularly along the lines (and therefore making us watch every play about 17 times.) Before I moved to my new school, Lee’s Summit West in LS, MO, I had coaches who were apathetic in their approach to films and scouting, and our performance suffered (2-9).
As I probably will not play football in college, I enjoy this pro-style approach and most of what it entails, because my school is probably the closest I will ever get to playing for the Broncos.
Also, just curious, how many state championships have you won?
Why do I live in Kansas City?
by papigrande on Jul 29, 2008 11:10 AM MDT reply actions 0 recs
I never won the big game,
and never got there. But our players got us there. Our HC had a philosophy that leaders accept the responsibility for losses, and pass the credit for the wins to the players. It’s a leadership model I believe in whatever the setting. (We never had a losing season in my time, and I feel pretty good about that too).
As far as coming to another program, I’ve switched careers. But I always feel that players should play for the coach that they have, and do the best that they can. I wasn’t so much a great coordinator as much as having a great HC to learn from. He would be the difference maker wherever he went, and I would go to work for him if he called me up. I imagine your coaches do the best that they can with the resources that they have. I was lucky to be in a program that was financialy supportive, and had a HC who was wise beyond the game. I did ok, but I was blessed with players who wanted to play and learn, a great staff, a great HC and AD, and a good booster group as well!
"Greater is an army of sheep led by a lion, than an army of lions led by a sheep" Defoe
by Steve Nichols on Jul 29, 2008 3:00 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
That is wisdom right there, straight wisdom.
Man, your teams must have been awesome. Again, I wish we could have played against one of your teams. Also, I didn’t really think you would want to come coach my team, that was kind of a joke, but I was just saying that I’m sure I would respect you if you were my coach. I’ve been blessed as well, to come to a program which is setting a tradition for excellence. Last year we won the state championship for the first time in our short history, and it was probably the most thrilling experience of my life. As a scout team QB, I didn’t really get to play much, or at all, but the feeling of all the work we’d been doing since May, in the film room and otherwise, finally pay off was like nothing I’ve ever felt. I think we had 184 kids come out for football this year based on that success, with 0 cuts. I still don’t know how the boosters came up with the money for all those helmets.
Why do I live in Kansas City?
by papigrande on Jul 29, 2008 3:26 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well heck!
I think that I should be asking you to come out to my old program! Sounds like your crew (coaches and players) know what you’re doing! Great job!
"Greater is an army of sheep led by a lion, than an army of lions led by a sheep" Defoe
by Steve Nichols on Jul 29, 2008 6:27 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Computer systems
I just finished my freshman year in college as a computer science major, and I am bored stiff over the summer. This article got me thinking about a project I could work on.
If any of the coaches on here (or ex-coaches) could give me some idea of the kind of information you gather from film, perhaps a sample write-up, and the kind of statistics you would like to gain from that for game planning, I would love to work on a program that could calculate the desired statistics and breakdowns.
by dcrowell on Jul 29, 2008 5:07 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
I've gotta run right now...
...but I’l be posting an answer here later. Stay tuned dcrowell.
"Greater is an army of sheep led by a lion, than an army of lions led by a sheep" Defoe
by Steve Nichols on Jul 29, 2008 6:30 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ok, I'm back.
Here’s my advice.
Get some college credit for the project, and get some help in the following manner. First, approach a prof (comp sci, athletics, or statistics) about getting credit for the project. See if your college has a sports program that would hook you up, or contact HS coaches in your area. (Don’t go through the athletic directors. A lot of coaches may see this as intrusive and not be as supportive). Instead of getting my advice for what I would look for, go straight to your local source (college or HS) and ask them. Offer to talk over a beer or lunch (your treat) and you’ll get further. Tell them this is a college project for credit, and you want to stay out of the coach’s way, but are willing to turn over any information that the coach believes would help his team. Better yet, the coach will be dictating the information he wants (which is what you are asking for anyway).
Also, to get into contact with HS coaches, ask your college coach (or college athletic director) if he or she would be willing to contact the high schools for you. Even if the college AD contacts HS ADs instead of HS coaches, it won’t come across as intrusive because the “college” will be calling, not a college kid with a project. I don’t mean to imply that you are “just a college kid” at all, only that schools can fall all over themselves trying to please the local college.
E-mail me if you get stuck.
"Greater is an army of sheep led by a lion, than an army of lions led by a sheep" Defoe
by Steve Nichols on Jul 30, 2008 1:19 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
I WILL MISS THE u
but look forward to the “break down.” Thanx 4 another great lesson. Who Knows, I may learn something about football yet! lol.
by metalman5050 on Jul 29, 2008 6:06 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
If you like MHR-U...
...You’ll love the preps. They got me the staff job at MHR, and got the links at SI. (And I’ll still be throwing in MHR-U posts here and there). : )
"Greater is an army of sheep led by a lion, than an army of lions led by a sheep" Defoe
by Steve Nichols on Jul 29, 2008 6:29 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
THATS GREAT
It makes me wonder, with your experience, why you are not still coaching?
by metalman5050 on Jul 29, 2008 6:32 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
I stopped teaching...
...when my daughter had some heart troubles that required some specialized insurance. The job I took was rotten, but kept us out of too much debt. After my daughter’s recovery, I took a job doing investigative work for a hospital system looking into pharmacutical internal theft. From there I met the right people and now work in law enforcement for a county. My current job is pretty bland, but I’m hoping with my background to move into another area of law enforcement in the near future. For that reason, and for my famiy’s sake, I keep a lower profile (even in my current job, I meet a lot of bad characters). The editorial staff is up to date on my work. In fact, it was hard to bite my toungue during the Travis Henry affair since I had some knowledge about the subject (not the actual case though) because of my pharm-investigative work.
On the other hand, I’d take a pay cut and move into teaching and coaching in the private sector in a heartbeat if the right job opened up. I’ve turned down a few coaching offers.
Thanks for asking!
"Greater is an army of sheep led by a lion, than an army of lions led by a sheep" Defoe
by Steve Nichols on Jul 30, 2008 1:07 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
special message for HT.....
Come back to the West…...you are needed!!!
fader nation is a conquered nation
The creator of the following names:
conquered fader nation
Phyllis and his merry men
by mdierk on Jul 30, 2008 2:49 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
I miss Colorado!
Is there an offer on the table? lol
"Greater is an army of sheep led by a lion, than an army of lions led by a sheep" Defoe
by Steve Nichols on Jul 30, 2008 3:17 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
offer???
i need the offer to move north!!
fader nation is a conquered nation
The creator of the following names:
conquered fader nation
Phyllis and his merry men
by mdierk on Jul 30, 2008 4:16 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
We should start a charity drive.
It would fund relocation costs and provide job searches for refugees wanting to return to Colorado!
"Greater is an army of sheep led by a lion, than an army of lions led by a sheep" Defoe
by Steve Nichols on Jul 31, 2008 5:50 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

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