Live Bloggin' From Broncos Training Camp - 7/31 AM Thoughts


Shanny readies for practice
My first practice and my goal was to take in as much as possible. It was great to see the Orange and Blue close up and get a real feel for just how fast, how big, and how powerful alot of these men are. I have read through the comments and will try and touch on as much as possible. I focused on the 7-on-7 and 11-on-11 drills, wanting to see how the team looked when simulating game action. As the week/weekend moves on I will focus on different parts.
There is hope, with the off-day following on Sunday, that the team may go full-pads on Saturday morning. I certainly hope that is the case.
Here are some of my musings, in no real order....

The following players did not dress this morning -- FB Peyton Hillis(Hammy), TE Chad Mustard(Hammy), C Tom Nalen(Knee), RB Michael Pittman(Hammy). The team is sending Nalen to have a MRI on his knee. Shanny stated it was simply "to have it checked out" and the team doesn't feel it is anything serious. I saw Nalen walking around the practice field and he was definitely feelin' it. Surely playing in the NFL as long as Nalen has will slow down your stroll so we'll wait and see.
There was a comment about the lack of crowds so far at practice and whether that was a sign of apathy, or simply an indictment of the economy(gas and such). There was no sign of it today as the workout enjoyed the largest crowd to date(1238). The group seemed energetic as well, ohh'ing and ahhh'ing at every big play and hit. I know it was suggested that I talk to some of the fans, and I will try to do that.
In general, the practice was upbeat, energetic and featured a lot of physicality. That may have been the reason that Shanny ended the practice early. It was a crisp session, with the team moving from one drill to the next with a sense of urgency I was looking for. There didn't seem to be any hangover from the Lynch situation. With Lynch gone, Marlon McCree and Hamza Abdullah were starting at Safety.
The first thing that became apparent to me was the size and speed combination of RB Ryan Torain. Showing absolutely no effects of the foot injury he suffered last season in college, Torain runs with alot of power and looks alot bigger than 6-1, 225 he's listed. He does seem to run standing up a bit which will lead to alot of contact, but Torain seems to enjoy it and rarely, if at all, doesn't fall forward. One thing Torain will need to work on from what I saw was his timing into the hole. He had a tendency to make his move in the backfield instead of the line of scrimmage and defenses in the NFL are just too damn faast for that. I am eager to see Torain go when the lights go on.
It was an up and down workout for Jay Cutler and Brandon Marshall. Cutler missed on a couple of easy chances, but that is to be expected during Training Camp. What was clear is the positive effect being completely healthy. His throws are electric and he is able to put it anywhere he wants. Marshall still looks to be a bit out of wind, but as the workout went on he seemed to get into rhythm. I still get the sense that all the business with the League is wearing on him a bit. I don't blame him. The Favre situation has seemingly halted all other business at the League and Marshall, as well as the Broncos, are forced to deal with it.
One area that I see a drastic improvement when it comes to #15 is his blocking, especially in the red zone/short yardage. On a few occasions, Marshall was able to seal off the edge allowing for Broncos touchdowns. Marshall is definitely big enough and strong enough to dominate in the run game and it looks like he is going to put the effort out there to do it.
Another positive for all of you Selvin Young fans is how much harder Young is running inside the 10. If there was one beef I had with young in 2007 it was his lack of yards in the Red Zone. If Young is going to be the back many of you think he is going to be that is one area that will need to improve. If Torain continues to play the way he is, it may not matter because he'll have earned the reps.
The more I see of Patrick Ramsey the less I like. I know he has the rocket arm but he just doesn't seem confident in the pocket, even during 7 X 7 drills. The final pass of the morning session was a nice out rout to Keary Colbert that Dre Bly should have intercepted. Ramsey's pass was late severely underthrown. I know, the Broncos could do worse at backup quarterback, but they could do alot better and if they are going to take that next step they need to have confidence that the backup QB can come in and win a game or two come gameday.
TE Brett Pierce had the catch of the day, making a diving catch on a seam route with Boss Bailey draped all over him. The pass looked exactly like the the 4th down play against the Jaguars last season that Daniel Graham dropped. Cutler put the ball right on the money and Pierce made the catch. I know Pierce will likely not make the team, but he has looked solid in the absence of Chad Mustard.
Domonique Foxworth might be the story of camp so far. There is no way Foxy can't be pushing Dre Bly for the starting CB spot alongside Champ Bailey. Also impressive is rookie Jack Williams. Fast forward to 2009, and I could see Bailey and Foxy at corner with Jack Williams as the nickel back. Just remember where you heard it.
One play I saw during 11 X 11 drills was the proto-typical reason Jamie Winborn has been on 4 teams in a very short time. Selving Young caught a short pass from Cutler, right in front of Winborn. Winborn over-pursued the play, allowing Young to cut back and pick up big yardage. A 5-8 yard play became a 20 yard play. Winborn is great on special teams, but he fundamental linebacker skills are still a work in progress.
Anthony Alridge is fun to watch, especially in space. He moves fluidly running with the football. I really didn't see a situation where Alridge was running the ball inside, but out in the open he looks good.
One player that was impressing me in early drills was QB Darrell Hackney. His footwork is solid and he plays with a certain confidence I like in a QB. He struggles, however, when the team is engaged in full-team drills. He is still fundamentally sound, but his lack of height definitely becomes a factor. It is a struggle for Hackney to stand in the pocket, and it seems to me the only way he'll be effective from the pocket is to try and roll out or bootleg.
TE Tony Scheffler looks healthy and Cutler is looking for him. The two connected on several plays, inclding a nice side-line grab that drew the applause of the crowd. If Brandon Marshall does get suspended for 4 games, which is the feeling around these parts, a healthy Scheff can help ease the blow.
Another rookie that is impressing me is S Josh Barrett. Barrett, like Torain, seems alot bigger than he really is, and let me tell ya, he closes in space FAST! There were several passes that appeared to be easy completions that Barrett was able to get to and break up. That is what playing safety in today's NFL is all about. This kid has a solid future.
I wanted some tempers to flair and I got it. On a play late in the session OL Ryan Harris and DL Kenny Peterson had to be seperated after some pushing, shoving and yelling. Nothing major, but I love to see the passion at camp.
That's that! A great morning to be at practice. Obviously, the complex is a bit of a circus because of the Lynch situation. He is scheduled to address the media at 3:30 mst, followed by the coach. I've got it all covered for ya. Go ahead, fire away with your questions and comments!
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Jarvis Moss
Any comments on our chicken-legged DE? Is anyone on the D-line cathing your attention?
How is Niko looking? I hear that Webster is looking better but I just can’t imagine that.
How is Ryan Harris looking?
Michael Fabiano really knows nothing about football outside of regression analysis and stat extrapolation. If it doesn’t have to do with fantasy football, his opinion is worthless.
by kwool79 on
Jul 31, 2008 1:46 PM MDT
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Tomorrow...
I plan on looking at specifics tomorrow morning.
-TSG
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by John Bena (aka TheSportsGuru) on
Jul 31, 2008 1:49 PM MDT
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outstanding post..
I hope you correct about foxworth, but I want to see it against real players during real games before I believe it…
Color me as a non believer as we speak..
by jrwiz on
Jul 31, 2008 1:46 PM MDT
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Great job
Thanks Guru – wish I could be there too. Keep up the good work!
-kmonty
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by kmonty on
Jul 31, 2008 1:47 PM MDT
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Thanks!!
Feel free to use what you want, and how awesome would it have been to have the Broncos Blogosphere dominate down here!! I am already getting cross-eyed looks from the “big boys”!
-TSG
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by John Bena (aka TheSportsGuru) on
Jul 31, 2008 1:48 PM MDT
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Sure thing
Hey, how long are you up there for?
-kmonty
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by kmonty on
Jul 31, 2008 1:58 PM MDT
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I'M DEFINATELY JELLOUSOF YOU
After moving from Denver to Nashville in 1990, I have always missed the “feal of the city” once training camp started. Actually, there is a whole lot I miss about Denver but nothing as much as the Broncos! You Need to hit some sports bars to get the feed back from some die-hard fans! Just wear your MHR LOGO and it won’t take long to get into some full blown conversations with the fans. Thanks for the ‘WORK’. i WISH i WAS TAGGIN ALONG!
by metalman5050 on
Jul 31, 2008 1:49 PM MDT
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Unarming Mermaid...
Sent me an e-mail so I am going to see if we can hook up and drink some Cold Coors….talking to the fans would be great!
-TSG
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by John Bena (aka TheSportsGuru) on
Jul 31, 2008 1:51 PM MDT
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GOOD IDEA
Have you ever been up lookout mountain overlooking Golden CO. and seen the COORS complex from above? It is absolutely stunnig with the Spanish style red roofs next to the cream collored walls. While u r there u can toss a coin on buffalo Bills grave! Thanx again for the great coverage!
by metalman5050 on
Jul 31, 2008 1:58 PM MDT
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It sounds like the young guys are stepping up and taking advantage.....
anyone out there that can be a back-up QB? Cutler better have some fantastic protection.
I’d love to see the looks of the “big boys”. I doubt it’s cross-eyed though. Is it more like big “threatened” eyes.
Were they at least decent to you?
fader nation is a conquered nation
The creator of the following names:
conquered fader nation
Phyllis and his merry men
by mdierk on
Jul 31, 2008 1:51 PM MDT
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I hope to be in Denver/Colorado Springs by next year.
Guru, we will have to meet at Golden to take the tour and have some free Coors.
fader nation is a conquered nation
The creator of the following names:
conquered fader nation
Phyllis and his merry men
by mdierk on
Jul 31, 2008 1:54 PM MDT
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alot of my family
works at the brewery and lives in golden
The quest is the Highway to the Danger Zone-Kenny loggins
by TommyTSlice on
Jul 31, 2008 3:53 PM MDT
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think they could get me a job there??
fader nation is a conquered nation
The creator of the following names:
conquered fader nation
Phyllis and his merry men
by mdierk on
Aug 1, 2008 10:32 AM MDT
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Hey Guru,
What would it take for you to setup a live feed for us!? =P
Signed,
Jealous in Chicago…
by tunga77 on
Jul 31, 2008 2:01 PM MDT
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Right on guru
Just got home from work and its awesome to see this posted
appreciate it
any thoughts on Darrell jackson is he still stone hands or not?
also hows jarvis moss looking?
and clady?
thanks guru
ncaa 09 time
peace
The quest is the Highway to the Danger Zone-Kenny loggins
by TommyTSlice on
Jul 31, 2008 3:52 PM MDT
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Three Words...
Coke…..Zero…....Swag!
-TSG
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by John Bena (aka TheSportsGuru) on
Jul 31, 2008 4:00 PM MDT
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you might have a little something
heading your way haha
The quest is the Highway to the Danger Zone-Kenny loggins
by TommyTSlice on
Aug 1, 2008 12:02 AM MDT
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Defense?
I am curious what kind of defense Slowik is working on at this point. Is it basic 4-3, with zone coverage behind it, or does it look like they are playing man to man with 8 man pressure.
I have always felt Foxy was a very good zone corner, but he is not as good in man to man. That may be the reason he has not cracked more playing time yet.
by The Gun Young on
Jul 31, 2008 4:11 PM MDT
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Excellent Job Boss!
I know when I get the report from Guru, it’s accurate and worth its weight in gold!
Some of my questions:
I’m excited about Barrett looking so good. I know McCree and Hamza are getting the starters’ reps, but is there any indication in your mind that Barrett might move up in the order?
Based on how good Torain looks, do you see him as being #2 on the depth chart?
Do you feel that Young looked good inside the ten based purely on skill, or do you think there might have been a little leeway because the defense has to pull up and not tackle?
Based on your report, and from what else I’ve read, I’m thinking hackney moves up to #2 QB. Your thoughts?
Based on your assesment of Foxworth, where do you see Paymah in the future? Will he be trade bait, or have some sort of role?
"Greater is an army of sheep led by a lion, than an army of lions led by a sheep" Defoe
by hoosierteacher on
Jul 31, 2008 5:58 PM MDT
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Oops, I hit "reply" instead of "enter".
Still had more questions!
Not so much a question, but I agree that Hackney will need to be mobile. Short QBs that can’t see over the defense often have to move around to see their targets. It’s a disadvantage, but can be mitigated if the QB develops good throwing-on-the-run skills.
Winborn is scaring me. I thought we at least had some depth at WLB, but it looks like we might not. Add in the concern Styg wrote about in his story on depth behind Boss, and things get a little more concerning. Any observations on the other LBs would be terrific. (Webster and Niko interest me, but either one can get the MLB job or back-up and probably do well. At this point I’m more interested in how Boss is doing, and who looks ok behind Boss and DJ).
Thanks for being the MHR eyes at Dove Valley. Your observations and your take on things are the ones that I trust, and the media types can make all of the faces that they want.
"Greater is an army of sheep led by a lion, than an army of lions led by a sheep" Defoe
by hoosierteacher on
Jul 31, 2008 6:05 PM MDT
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Great Job!
Thanks Guru! It’s nice having these reports for those of us that would otherwise have no idea what is going on! Loving the podcasts as well! Keep up the great job and thanks!
"I expected the Rocky Mountains to be a little rockier than this."
by MileHighFish on
Aug 1, 2008 9:01 AM MDT
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Thanks Fish!!!
And Welcome!
-TSG
www.milehighreport.com
by John Bena (aka TheSportsGuru) on
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