Goodell: 'Decision On Brandon Marshall Coming Soon'
by John Bena on Aug 1, 2008 3:01 PM MDT
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I know, I know, another story on Brandon Marshall and his pending case with the NFL. This time there is some substance for you since Roger Goodell made comments earlier today specifically about the Wide Receiver's case. When asked this afternoon about Marshall, Goodell, who is in Canton as part of the Hall of Fame Induction ceremonies, implied that a decision about Marshall is coming soon.
"We are in the final stages of that,” Goodell said. “We’ve had a hearing, we’ve had discussions. We’ve got a little more work to do — which was actually done (Friday) morning — and we should be making a ruling very shortly.”
Goodell also went on to explain the process involved when a player is "called to the carpet" by the Commissioner.
"First is to understand all the facts, to understand all the perspective,” Goodell said. “So we clearly understand the circumstances in which an incident or incidents occurred. Then we also look at the individual player and how they view the incident and how they view their behavior and how they understand that there are consequences with the kind of action they may have been involved with."
“They also understand what I expect of them and I communicate with them what I expect of them as an NFL player.”
With the Hall of Fame, coupled with the Brett Favre embarrassment, League matters have ground to a halt. Hopefully the delay has more to do with the League putting in the time to understand the "offenses" than it is Favre.
Thinking ahead, should Marshall get suspended, he would be able to practice and play during the Pre-Season.
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This may be wishfull thinking...
I still think Goodell is going to let Brandon play on a ‘stay-clean-or-else’ probation.
by Mike Clark on Aug 1, 2008 3:13 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
I sure hope for
and will be keeping my fingers crossed!
by jonahsilas on Aug 1, 2008 3:38 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
There is always the possibility.
Breaks out crystal ball and voodoo dolls
Why do I live in Kansas City?
by papigrande on Aug 1, 2008 3:57 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm thinking four games
and hoping it’s not eight. But I’d rather be waaay wrong and you be right.
"In the empty spaces - lacunae, vacuums, pauses, voids, black holes - new things begin. We are born anew from the unexplored space, the badlands, the outlaw territory." - Sam Keen
by spock on Aug 1, 2008 4:16 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
I am thinking stern talking to.
No suspension. But he better grow up! And keep his sterio silent.
What lies behind us and what lies before us are small matters compared to what lies within us. - Emerson
by firstfan on Aug 1, 2008 4:20 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
you are way off
Think one or none pal.
Michael Fabiano really knows nothing about football outside of regression analysis and stat extrapolation. If it doesn’t have to do with fantasy football, his opinion is worthless.
by kwool79 on Aug 1, 2008 4:39 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'd like to be way off
but I’m trying to be realistic. Think Goodell = Darth Vader to those who transgress. And let’s be honest, Brandon has “seen the light” several times now and each time the bad behavior has continued. Goodell might well conclude that a suspension is the only way to get his attention. Maybe, just maybe, since his sins have been of immaturity rather than meanness, Goodell will give him an ultimatum: one more transgression and you get suspended X number of games, and maybe, just maybe, Brandon will for real “get it” this time. I hope Rod’s presence made a difference, and that Brandon was suffienciently contrite (but he’s been contrite before). Hey, I want to seem him out there as badly as anyone else, but he has got to grow up. Otherwise he’s letting us and himself down.
"In the empty spaces - lacunae, vacuums, pauses, voids, black holes - new things begin. We are born anew from the unexplored space, the badlands, the outlaw territory." - Sam Keen
by spock on Aug 1, 2008 6:47 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
I am preparing for the worst
and hoping for the best. Let’s hope Goodell has a good heart on this one.
by weazel on Aug 1, 2008 10:01 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
What happened to, 'Live long and Prosper.' ???
by Mike Clark on Aug 2, 2008 9:48 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Working on it
"In the empty spaces - lacunae, vacuums, pauses, voids, black holes - new things begin. We are born anew from the unexplored space, the badlands, the outlaw territory." - Sam Keen
by spock on Aug 3, 2008 1:52 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Stern talk and then some...
This is my first post. I have been following MHR since last season. I love the atmosphere here and the terrific insight!
This might be wishful thinking. But, I feel that Marshall will get a stern talk along with a zero-tolerance warning. Meaning that from now on if his conduct is detrimental in any way, that he will be suspended for a long time.On the other hand if he is suspended, I see 2 games max.
Aloha!
"I can do all things through HIM who gives me strength"
by BroncoCountryHawaii on Aug 1, 2008 4:39 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
Brutal!
Your first post gets the infamous “blue quote of death”. Welcome aboard!
Mountains, forest, sea: these render man fierce, but yet do not destroy the man.
by Jeremy Bolander on Aug 1, 2008 4:43 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Aloha! We have great hope here!
Welcome BCH I am the idiot of this site.
by Mike Clark on Aug 1, 2008 5:58 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Post got cut off
My first post and it got messed up already…lol.
"I can do all things through HIM who gives me strength"
by BroncoCountryHawaii on Aug 1, 2008 4:41 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
Welcome to MHR
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The creator of the following names:
conquered fader nation
Phyllis and his merry men
by mdierk on Aug 1, 2008 4:42 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Welcome aboard Hawaii!
Now there is someone further west than Alaska!
You can do the MHR Radio at 3:00 in the afternoon!!
What lies behind us and what lies before us are small matters compared to what lies within us. - Emerson
by firstfan on Aug 1, 2008 5:10 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thank You
"I can do all things through HIM who gives me strength"
by BroncoCountryHawaii on Aug 1, 2008 4:43 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
Aloha To You!!
I think it is time we get some kind of map to pinpoint all of the members…..
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by John Bena on Aug 1, 2008 4:48 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Its nice to have HI
with us. Ahhh Waikiki. Too bad I dont remember much after nightfall. But pulling into Pearl Harbor is nothing I will ever, ever forget
by broncfanstuckinsd on Aug 1, 2008 4:51 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Good idea Guru...
I think that may be kind of fun.
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by sirsam on Aug 1, 2008 8:02 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
That would be cool
to see how many parts of the country we are located.
Oh and good to have you aboard BroncoCountryHawaii.
by weazel on Aug 1, 2008 9:59 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Don't forget Europe
I’m in the UK, Claus is in Denmark. Make sure that map covers the globe not just the US!
by Orange & Blue Badger on Aug 2, 2008 6:43 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think Jeeeens is also in Denmark.
"Greater is an army of sheep led by a lion, than an army of lions led by a sheep" Defoe
by Steve Nichols on Aug 2, 2008 12:23 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
And DJ Bronco
is in Germany.
Mountains, forest, sea: these render man fierce, but yet do not destroy the man.
by Jeremy Bolander on Aug 2, 2008 12:26 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Good News.
Thanks, this is good news, and new information. So it does not feel like the same old rehashing of the same information.
I think it is a good sign that there has been a delay, and a good sign that Goodell feels compelled to explain his effort to understand everything. I think this a precursor to him dealing out less of a penalty than everyone has speculated on. I think if he is suspended it will be for two games, but there is a chance he is just given his final warning.
by The Gun Young on Aug 1, 2008 4:52 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
Gun
I agree. We had so much bad things happen last year that we are do for a break. You can not help but like Brandon. I haven’t seen the likes of Marshall since Shannon Sharpe….and I have this feeling that Brandon cares more about others than himself. I think Goodell has to see this also. Goodell cannot question Rod Smith, and Rod has become the mentor to keep ‘Bad Brandon’ out of trouble so ‘The Good Marshall’ can shine.
by Mike Clark on Aug 1, 2008 6:11 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
I sure hope
im pretty sure goodell is thinking long and hard about his position and i am sure goodell will make the best possible decisions….im sure though that bmarsh wont get any suspension time…
By the way
Seattle is one helluva nice place to visit
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by TommyTSlice on Aug 1, 2008 7:47 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
Well, let's look around.
A Bradshaw (RB Giants) was in jail for 30 days and he didn’t get suspended.
G Cherilus (OT Lions) was convicted for assult and he didn’t get suspended.
M Lynch (RB Bills) didn’t get suspended for his hit and run with a woman in Detroit.
F Washington (CB Ravens) got a 1 game suspention because he pleded a lesser charge for domestic battery.
Now looking at Washington and Lynch’s case, what is the moral of the story?
“Don’t hit a woman, unless you do it with your car.” (Profootballtalk.com)
Go So Cal. I am the bigger one.
by amirebram on Aug 1, 2008 8:00 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
BTW
I am by no means saying that violence is ok. I am just pointing at the subjective and unbalanced justice of the NLF Comish.
What about Chris Henry? 4 games for the many serious crap that he was in? If Marshall gets 2 games, then Henry should have gotten 8 or 12 games.
Go So Cal. I am the bigger one.
by amirebram on Aug 1, 2008 8:02 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
On the other hand...
...you might look at the number of brushes with the law. Severity is one thing, and a pattern of behavior can be another factor. I’m not saying that I favor a suspension, only that it’s not far fetched.
"Greater is an army of sheep led by a lion, than an army of lions led by a sheep" Defoe
by Steve Nichols on Aug 2, 2008 2:58 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
dont forget
this is Henrys SECOND suspension. He was out for 8 games last year
by broncfanstuckinsd on Aug 2, 2008 11:11 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh God. You are right.
I had forgotten about his first suspension…. oops. Then again, even that was rather mild.
Go So Cal. I am the bigger one.
by amirebram on Aug 2, 2008 1:10 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
I am surprised
That Darth Goddell didnt give him a year
by broncfanstuckinsd on Aug 2, 2008 1:20 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Great points, Amir
and thanks to the Guru for the post.
Atwater for the Hall!
by Emmett Smith on Aug 1, 2008 9:51 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
Even if Marshall is suspended....
wouldn’t the Broncos immediately appeal it and postpone when he would serve the suspension? Couldn’t they hypothetically wait until the most opportune time of the season for him to miss the games and then drop the appeal? Or…they may even win the appeal (you never know).
by UnarmingMermaid on Aug 1, 2008 11:32 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
I would shoot for the Miami, Cleveland, Atlanta, Oakland stretch (assuming the 4 game rumors are true)!
by UnarmingMermaid on Aug 1, 2008 11:37 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
that would be the ideal time however
with deangelo hall on one side and awesomegoulash on the other having bmarsh for that game could be crucial
by broncofan91 on Aug 2, 2008 1:35 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Actually, the first week(s) would be best.
I would also suggest that if we had a choice, we loose marshall for the games that we are sure to loose. Because we need to take full advantage of the games that we can win.
Also keep in mind that for the duration that Marshall will be gone (up to 4 games) we would have a roster exemption. That would allow us to carry one extra WR, RB, DL or OL player on the roster for the beginning of the season.
It’s more time to evaluate the players, and after week 1 or 2 most teams have a full roster and practice squad, so when we drop one guy, there is a better chance that he won’t get picked up. We have a couple of guys like Polumbus who would likely not make it to the 53 man roster, but be coveted by some teams. This strategy might help.
Go So Cal. I am the bigger one.
by amirebram on Aug 2, 2008 4:21 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't believe in games that we are 'sure to lose'...
I think we have a shot in all of them. “Any given Sunday”, right?
I know it’s a long shot, but I really hope Polumbus can get into the final 53. He’s a local kid with, imo, a tremendous upside.
by UnarmingMermaid on Aug 2, 2008 5:37 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
NO JOKE UM!
There r NO GAMES that we can’t win on any given day! Have faith.
by metalman5050 on Aug 2, 2008 10:03 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes, any given sunday, except ...
when we play the Colts ;)
My point wasn’t that it is impossible to win … but if we are to play a game of chances, I would rather make sure I get the wins I am suposed to get. Without Marshall we might have a hard time again the Raiders and the Browns. While with Marshall, we would have a low chance of winning against NE.
I admit that it isn’t the winner/aggresive/competitive attitude that a coach might expect from players, but I am an engineer.
Go So Cal. I am the bigger one.
by amirebram on Aug 2, 2008 1:13 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree with others...
...that these aren’t games we are sure to lose. However, I agree with your two points; that we want to win the later games that we have circled as wins, and the roster exemption buys time for evaluations. It’s really a moot point. If a suspension comes down, it will be the first games.
"Greater is an army of sheep led by a lion, than an army of lions led by a sheep" Defoe
by Steve Nichols on Aug 2, 2008 12:26 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
As a side note, and not related to BMarsh
Does anyone else disagree with the idea that a roster exemption should apply in the case of a suspension?
Personally, I think that if a player is suspended the team should be punished as well, and not reserve the right to just replace him out of hand. I understand that a guy like BMarsh isn’t really replaceable, but in principle the idea of a roster exemption becomes a hidden advantage for a team like Denver that might carry an extra DT or something to get real game experience.
If the team feels the punishment that the player feels, to an equal degree, then there will be less bad behavior sanctioned in the league since the team is really the “source” of the player. It would have a trickle down effect to college even where teams would be even LESS likely to take character risks in the draft. In my opinion, this would be a small move that would benefit the sport in the long run. Thoughts?
Mountains, forest, sea: these render man fierce, but yet do not destroy the man.
by Jeremy Bolander on Aug 2, 2008 12:33 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
The team is punished.
Not having a player like Marshall for a game or two is punishment for the team and owner … it makes winning that much harder.
AND that last roster spot doesn’t mean a thing. You only get to dress up 45 guys on game day. What does it matter in a game if you have 53 or 54 guys on your roster? That last guy only helps you in practice or depth.
But if the player that is suspended is a backup… well I guess the team’s only concern is a media/fan type of deal.
Go So Cal. I am the bigger one.
by amirebram on Aug 2, 2008 1:16 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree Styg.
In most sports situations, I think the team should carry a burden. If the team (or the ownership) shares a burden, that wakes the people up that matter. It might even trickle down to how agents choose clients (such as an agent not wanting to waste time on a client with behavioral issues because he becomes too hard to market).
"Greater is an army of sheep led by a lion, than an army of lions led by a sheep" Defoe
by Steve Nichols on Aug 2, 2008 2:03 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Marshall may know something...
Ian over at Broncos Denver Broncos Blog held out a tape recorder as Brandon Marshall made his way into the locker room. He didn’t say much, but what he said speaks volumes. “I can’t wait for Oakland on Monday night!” What do you guys think? You think he knows something we don’t yet know?
See the article here.
There is only One Moment—this moment—the Eternal Moment of Now
by sirsam on Aug 2, 2008 12:38 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
VERY interesting!
"Greater is an army of sheep led by a lion, than an army of lions led by a sheep" Defoe
by Steve Nichols on Aug 2, 2008 2:04 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
He's just being optimistic
What’s he supposed to do, assume he’s not going to be playing when the season starts?
"In the empty spaces - lacunae, vacuums, pauses, voids, black holes - new things begin. We are born anew from the unexplored space, the badlands, the outlaw territory." - Sam Keen
by spock on Aug 2, 2008 3:16 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
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