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Houston Texans 19 - Denver Broncos 16 -- Thoughts and Analysis

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  Denver Broncos 16      @       Houston Texans 19

August 9th, 2008 - 6:00pm MST
Reliant Stadium - Houston, TX

Game 1 of the pre-season is behind us and while the end result was a loss there were some encouraging signs.  There were also some things that concern me a bit.  Yes, it was only the first pre-season game.  Yes, in reality, they don't mean anything.  That doesn't mean, however, that we can't look at the game and find some positives and negatives to carry forward.  There are also some distrubing trends that continue to manifest themselves on this team that need to get worked out over the next 3 weeks. 

Using the games stats as a baseline, lets breakdown the game -

QUARTERBACK PLAY

First off, Jay Cutler is back and better than ever.  After the expected early jitters by the offense as a whole on their first drive, the Broncos first string offense dissected the Texans defense on a beautifully executed TD drive.  Cutler was 7-9 on the drive, and finished it off by running 15 yards for the touchdown.  Cutler 1 - Diabetes 0.  Sure, it was only one game, but the Broncos are also practicing right now alot more than they will during the season.  That leads me to think that Cutler is in for a HUGE season. 

The same can't be said for Patrick Ramsey who was simply awful, and trend that has continued the entire Camp so far.  Both interceptions were ugly, and Ramsey's 2.9 yards per pass are an embarrassment.   Ramsey's feet are all over the place in the pocket and his poor mechanics lead to a horribly inaccurate delivery.  Let's face it, the Broncos would be in trouble no matter what if Cutler went down for a significant amount of time, most teams would be, but if I have to into battle with a backup QB I at least want it to be a guy who will give me the best chance.  Anyone out there NOT THINK the best chance to win is Darrell Hackney??

Hackney played well in his time, was able to move around in the pocket and moved the team very well.  Could he do it against 1st Team defenses?  Good question, but he looks a lot more comfortable in the pocket than Ramsey and seems to have a better handle on the offense, even if it is pared down quite a bit.

 

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RUNNING BACK PLAY

The running game had its moments.  Moments when it looked like the glory days of dominant Broncos football.  At other time it looked like it couldn't get out of its own way.  Perhaps that is to be expected when the Broncos and Texans play since no knows the Broncos running game better than Alex Gibbs and Gary Kubiak.  

On an individual level, Selvin Young struggled to get going, but I am firm believer that running backs, like wine, get better with time, and 4 carries is not a real sample to pass judgment upon.  Still, 3 total yards is a bit unnerving. 

Andre Hall was solid and showed great vision.  Anthony Alridge was able to change the pace a bit, and showed why many are excited about his potential.  His 19 yard run in the 4th quarter was an example of what he can bring this team if used correctly.

As a team, the Broncos averaged 4.7 yards per carry, but that number is a bit deceiving.  Take the QB scrambles out of the equation, and the number drops to 3.8.  That won't get it done long-term, but again, I'll attribute much of it to the Texans familiarity with the Broncos offense.

WIDE RECEIVER PLAY

The passing game was pretty vanilla for both teams.  The Broncos did try and get deep a couple of times, with only Tony Scheffler making a reception of 30+ yards.  Eddie Royal looked a bit lost at times, which is to be expected and does not concern me at all.  Of bigger concern was the play of Keary Colbert.  The Broncos are paying Colbert quite a bit of money, relatively speaking, and he has failed to produce.  Unable to make a catch, Colbert also struggled in the run game, allowing his man to be involved in several running plays. 

Colbert has been disappointing to date, but he still has time to make his presence felt.  The rest of the receiving corp was so-so, but Scheffler looked healthy and that is a huge bonus.  You could see the Broncos were also going with looks to fine out what combination will work best while Brandon Marshall serves his suspension.  They are hoping Royal and Jackson can fit the bill, but only time will tell.

DEFENSE

The defense showed it was still a work in progress, but I felt, as a group, they are moving in the right direction.  The Texans were able to move the ball, but the Broncos were able to force field goals, which is the first step.   On the negative side, the Texans were able to convert 46% of their 3rd downs.  If the Broncos want to be a solid defense, they need to find a way to get that number under 40%.  Trust me.

I was impressed with Wesley Woodyard, who showed he can make plays at the NFL level.  The Broncos are going to have a decision to make with Woodyard who likely wouldn't last too long on the practice squad.  I also thought the D-Line played ok, though there still just wasn't enough pressure up front.  The Broncos D was able to get 2 sacks and did stop the Texans twice on 4th down. 

I thought the defense did a nice job forcing the Texans to kick a field goal to win the game, though it was a bit of a downer that they could get a big stop and get the ball back to the offense after the game was tied at 16. 

On the injury front, Boss Bailey seems optimistic about his ankle injury, though Shanny thinks Bailey could miss a couple of weeks.  Let's hope it is not a High Ankle sprain and Bailey can be 100% in time for the Raiders.

Louis Green's injury was scary, but it looks like Green is going to be ok, though he is suffering from a concussion.

SPECIAL TEAMS PLAY

We'll start with Matt Prater, since Field Goals are going to be a point of emphasis with Broncos fans all season.  On the surface, it's easy to say that Prater's miss from 30 yards is the reason the Broncos didn't win the game.  If it were only that easy.  The Broncos struggled, once again, scoring TD's in the Red Zone.  We've talked about it all spring and summer.  If the Broncos are going to be a contender, a real contender, they need to stop settling for 3 points.

As for Prater, I was more impressed with how he bounced back from the miss to hit his next 3.  I was already confident in Prater, and nothing that happened Saturday night changes my mind.

The Broncos were able to win the battle of starting field position, averaging their own 30 yardline, while the Texans average starting position was the 27.  That will be a key I will watch all season.  No one has been worse than the Broncos the past two seasons.  Eddie Royal was decent in his debut as the Broncos main return guy, but again, I'm not concerned and think Royal will be a huge additon.

I think it is pretty obvious that Sam Paulescu will be the starting punter.

RANDOM THOUGHTS

I'd be remiss if I didn't mention the play of the offensive line.  Yes, Ryan Harris struggled and there were numerous penalties.  One stat that did catch my eye was this one - 0 SACKS.  The line is young, and we are all well aware that the Broncos are starting a rookie at Left Tackle.  Enough said.  I'll deal with mental mistakes early in the pre-season, especially if every one of our QB's are kept clean.  Illegal Formation, False Starts, those things can be corrected with time and experience.  They are still a work in progress, but as a starting point it could have been a lot worse.

MHR OPEN THREAD STATS

Roll Call: FlaBRONCO, UnarmingMermaid, Mike Clark, DesertBroncoFan, weazel, broncfanstuckinsd, Zappa, bigd615, kwool79, TedBartlett905, okiebroncosfan, TommyTSlice, davecheffy, bballin87, TheSportsGuru, calvinandhobbes, ArabianBroncoFan, Swissy14, hooper, Denver Diehard, spock, jonahsilas, Broncoman
Total Users: 23
Total Posts: 598
Total Threads: 2

Name# of Posts
UnarmingMermaid 119
Zappa 99
DesertBroncoFan 68
bigd615 60
calvinandhobbes 55
weazel 51
Mike Clark 36
TommyTSlice 22
broncfanstuckinsd 14
jonahsilas 10
davecheffy 9
okiebroncosfan 8
hooper 8
TedBartlett905 6
TheSportsGuru 6
Swissy14 6
kwool79 5
bballin87 4
Denver Diehard 4
ArabianBroncoFan 3
spock 3
Broncoman 1
FlaBRONCO 1

Sure, it might only be the Pre-Season for the Broncos, but you guys and gals are in regular Season form.  Thanks to all of you for sharing your Broncos gametime together with all of us!

 

 

 

Poll
What grade would you give the Broncos for their performance against the Texans?
A
3 votes
B
73 votes
C
249 votes
D
42 votes
F
4 votes

371 votes | Poll has closed

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I won :-)

WOW…I’m a blabber finger!!!

by UnarmingMermaid on Aug 11, 2008 9:08 AM MDT reply actions   0 recs

I voted C, since they weren't all that impressive. I hope they continue to improve.

btw, if I had known I was sitting at 99 posts, I would have made one more just for the hell of it. :P

You can tell the guys with many posts because they are probably out of staters who weren’t able to watch the game until later on when it was broadcast illegally on the net. ;)

If God is not a Bronco fan, then WHY are sunsets Blue and Orange? - Jon Tollerud 5/22/08

by Tim Lynch on Aug 11, 2008 9:30 AM MDT reply actions   0 recs

Wow

Wow Zappa you hit the nail on the head. I think the team can get straightened out and do great. I would give the game yesterday about a B because the runningbacks didnt show a lot of strength and the defense didnt play great. I remember that there was essentially 5 starters out. (Thats the correct word right, essentially?)

by bigd615 on Aug 11, 2008 4:32 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Only because you ask.
I remember that there was essentially 5 starters out. (Thats the correct word right, essentially?)

“Essentially” wouldn’t be correct grammer because there were five starters out or there wasn’t. The number of starters wouldn’t be modified in the sentence.

But the good news is that this is friendly territory, and none of us care about grammer, punctuation, or spelling. Heck, I make several mistakes in most posts in my haste to type comments at MHR. You don’t have to worry if a word is correct or not because we all love our team and none of us look for English issues.

"Greater is an army of sheep led by a lion, than an army of lions led by a sheep" Defoe

by Steve Nichols on Aug 12, 2008 12:11 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

I voted D

I saw some things that bothered me. Lots of missed tackles and over pursuit on defense. Jarvis Moss was awful and I don’t even remember seeing Tim Crowder out there.

At least they can fix mistakes and move up to and A soon.

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by mdierk on Aug 11, 2008 10:02 AM MDT reply actions   0 recs

Looked like Preseason Game 1.

Poor tackling, poor execution, too many penalties, too many field goals, too many injuries, vanilla schemes, pretty boring game. Yup, preseason game 1.

Whats important is (1) How did the first string units look, (2) How is the injury situation, (3) What needs improvement, (4) Who stood out?

Our first string offense did good. If not for that penalty on Harris, we might have scored twice. Our first string beat theirs (7-6)! Although, our first string defense wasn’t completely first string (missing Champ, Boss, D-Rob, Hamza, & Bly on most downs). So the first unit defense did okay. The run defense looked better than last year.

Two scary injuries in one of the least depth positions (OLB), but both guys will probably be okay by the regular season. Whoo!

Obviously, overall the team needs to work on O-Line cohesion, run blocking, defensive assignments and execution (guys not filling their proper gaps, coverage), fewer penalties, better tackling, special teams consistency, and of course back-up QB play. All to be expected.

Guys who stood out were Cutler, Royal (caught everything), the running backs, the TEs, DJ, MCree (in coverage), Woodyard, Barrett.

I think Royal will be a starting WR from game 1. Woodyard should be a second string LB, and the first replacement at OLB. I did not see the stiff hips concern that HT had earlier for Woodyard. Webster will probably win the Mike position. Barrett should be second string Safety for Hamza. Moss and Colbert are still learning. Thomas will have a good year. Clady will have some rookie moments but he will be okay. Harris is the O-tackle we need to keep an eye on. I expect Shanny to start giving Kuper some reps at R-tackle, now that Holland will be back this week. I think we will have somewhat of a running back committee this year (Young, Hall, Alridge will all play). And Cutler will be awesome this year!

by The Gun Young on Aug 11, 2008 10:40 AM MDT reply actions   0 recs

There you go again.
I did not see the stiff hips concern that HT had earlier for Woodyard.

The concern was never voiced by me. It was voiced by member Jonahsilas. He asked what can be done for the condition, and I told him. A reading of Jonah’s comment and mine wouldn’t indicate that I know anything about Woodyard having stiff hips, only that I am familar with the condition.

"Greater is an army of sheep led by a lion, than an army of lions led by a sheep" Defoe

by Steve Nichols on Aug 12, 2008 12:19 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

My bad.

I guess I assigned this concern to the wrong person. A simple mistake, in the context of a conversation about Woodyard. But no need for ill will. I can admit when I am wrong, which I think is important. Hopefully you will do the same, when appropriate.

by The Gun Young on Aug 12, 2008 12:12 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Thanks.

Fair enough.

"Greater is an army of sheep led by a lion, than an army of lions led by a sheep" Defoe

by Steve Nichols on Aug 13, 2008 1:25 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

looks like

I got as much love in the thread stats as the Broncos got from the Mike and Mike show.

Michael Fabiano really knows nothing about football outside of regression analysis and stat extrapolation. If it doesn’t have to do with fantasy football, his opinion is worthless.

by kwool79 on Aug 11, 2008 11:21 AM MDT reply actions   0 recs

It would seem as though your avatar should get you some extra points.

by franksnbeans on Aug 11, 2008 3:51 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

awesome

Thanks for the recap and analysis, Guru.

And as for the comments, I was making dinner for friends so I wasn’t able to watch the game, but after they left, I immediately signed on and saw the crazy in-game thread and I was shocked! I proudly showed my wife the number of comments that were made for our first preseason game … to which, she promptly called me a nerd. I just think she’s jealous. ;)

by tunga77 on Aug 11, 2008 11:45 AM MDT reply actions   0 recs

I didnt do

too bad for only being available for the first quarter. I dont take too much stock in the first few preseason games. To me the most important game is preseason game 3. Like people here in SD are just going nuts over the 31-17 win over Dallas. Except the smart people/fans (which there are not a lot of here in SD). I just want to see improvement from game 1 to game 2.
Great post TSG

by broncfanstuckinsd on Aug 11, 2008 12:03 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

Guys...

Take no heed in the Comment stats. I just thought it would be interested to look at the activity. I would much rather have 1 awesome comment than 100 stupid ones. People often ask about the number of comments, etc, and I have a neat little tool that puts it together for me….

-TSG

www.milehighreport.com

by John Bena on Aug 11, 2008 12:55 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

i like it

I just like to see who was here while the best team in the NFL was playing.

by broncfanstuckinsd on Aug 11, 2008 1:09 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Nothing...

Except that it is a good thing Zappa din’t post one more comment!!

;o)

-TSG

www.milehighreport.com

by John Bena on Aug 11, 2008 2:06 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

oh man, i would have talked much more if i wasnt watching the game full screen....

who’s to say i didn’t have 100 great comments. :P

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by Tim Lynch on Aug 11, 2008 4:29 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

LOL

I was wondering how long it would take for you to respond!

-TSG

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by John Bena on Aug 11, 2008 4:30 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think your exactly right about the people who posted the most though, Zappa. That was a good comment.

by bigd615 on Aug 11, 2008 4:34 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

TELL ME SOMETING GURU!

Where can I hear the game on the net? ANYWHERE?

by metalman5050 on Aug 11, 2008 2:25 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Try

this. It lists several radio stations that you can get the stream from. KOA in Denver is the Bronco’s flagship station (has been for years) and is usually where the other stations listed get their feed from.

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by DesertBroncoFan on Aug 11, 2008 2:46 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

IT WAS THE 2 / ZIP SACKS THAT I LIKED THE MOST

and the sacks were made by Whom? Somebody wants a job! I can’t get the games in Nastyville TN, but would appreciate if someone knows where to go on the net to at least hear the play by play. Its early and if we stay healthy, I sure am excited about where I think we will be, “in the play offs!”

by metalman5050 on Aug 11, 2008 2:20 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

I wonder how the season opener Monday night against the raiders is going to effect what we see in the preseason. That game must be HUGE in Shanny’s mind and preseason wins mean nothing in comparison. Do you think he will keep everything extra dumbed down?

by franksnbeans on Aug 11, 2008 4:11 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

I don't think so.

The games won’t be dumbed down to fool the raiders. The games are already dumbed down because we are trying out players more than we are trying to win games. The preseason is much more about individual effort than team effort.

"Greater is an army of sheep led by a lion, than an army of lions led by a sheep" Defoe

by Steve Nichols on Aug 12, 2008 12:23 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

great post guru

I agree with pretty much everything you said and i gave the broncos a Cgrade

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by TommyTSlice on Aug 11, 2008 5:03 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

I voted C because I think we played right in the middle.

There were plenty of positives and negatives to touch on and I think Guru pretty much covered that.

One of the main concerns was Red Zone scoring and the fact that we need to score more TDs. I can’t get on them too much since Cutler only played two drives before Ramsey came in and didn’t really do anything but help the Texans score 7. Hackney helped move the team downfield and despite just getting FGs I feel a little better that one of our backup QBs feels comfortable in the pocket. Move over Ramsey because I think Hackney just took your spot.

I am really pleased with what I saw out of Alridge. The one play I liked from him was the one where he turned the corner to go upfield….....boy does he have some speed. Our O-line got things going on the second drive and as the unit works together more, I think our running game will improve.

Defense: Not much pressure up front and the Texans seemed to move the ball easily. We did step up and keep them to FGs most of the game so that is good thing…....more 3 and outs. I mean we do get a new defensive coordinator every year so I guess some adjustment is expected. Woodyard showed what he can do and one of the roster spots is his.

by weazel on Aug 11, 2008 7:09 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

Good game

Just one point of clarification--Aldridge’s 19-yarder would have been a 3-yard loss if anyone other than Petey Faggins was responsible for the edge on that play. Petey didn’t even break stride as he ran right past AA. Not to take anything away from Aldridge-it was a nice run and it’s not his fault that Faggins is miserable—but it is worth noting for the people who didn’t get to see the game.

Yay, sports.

by MDC on Aug 11, 2008 7:52 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

Hackney it is, I believe.

One thing I’d like about having Hackney as the #2 is his mobility. Even if he’s handed a simplified playbook, having the running threat is a cheap way to force the defenses to play a little more honestly.

I wonder if Ramsey is holding onto a bit of disappointment since there’s no chance of him winning the starting spot. Ignoring his performance so far, there’s really no backups in the league who would challenge Cutler for the top spot. Since Ramsey’s had the taste of starting before, I think it’s at least a possibility that he’s a little bummed about his situation. Not that I have any confidence in that speculation; I certainly don’t know the guy well enough. But I do wonder.

by Hooper on Aug 11, 2008 9:01 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

running QBs

I’d actually like to see the NFL use running QBs, but that would require an expanded roster to provide adequate depth—which isn’t likely to pass by the required 3/4ths vote of the owners. Hackney could provide an interesting solution to our red zone problems if he were designated the “red zone quarterback,” but I think we’d have to then carry 3 QBs and that’s a problem. He’s probably the best power back left on the squad.

by Colinski on Aug 11, 2008 9:18 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

My only real beef is the coment on Colbert . . .

Colbert was thrown at three times that I counted. One time was the incredibly overthrown pass by Ramsey. Another was a pass interference by the defense that made it impossible for Colbert to catch. The third was also an erratic pass.

I think we need to give him a better chance than that.

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by AZDynamics on Aug 12, 2008 12:21 AM MDT reply actions   0 recs

My problem with Colbert...

was his complete inability to block during running plays. Wide Receivers in this system need to block and there were 2 plays specifically that could have been huge plays had Colbert sealed the edge.

-TSG

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by John Bena on Aug 12, 2008 5:54 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

running game

TSG, it looks like the running game could have used Ryan Torain. I’m hoping for your sake that Selvin Young or Andre Hall really step it up and play the “superstar RB” role that the Denver Bronco offense seems to churn out every year, but I really think it would have been Torain who led you the furthest.

Good luck this season!

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by Cory Williams on Aug 12, 2008 8:57 AM MDT reply actions   0 recs

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