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MHR Chalk Talk - 2008 Pre-Season Game #2 - Cowboys @ Broncos

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  Dallas Cowboys      @          Denver Broncos

August 16th, 2008 - 7:00pm MST
Invesco Field @ Mile High
Denver, CO

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Welcome to an exhibition version of MHR Game Prep! How does this work? Simple. I'll be providing the game preps for you this year, but the pre-season will be a little different.

In the pre-season, it is hard to gauge what will happen. Neither team plays for the win, but instead calls in plays and substitutions designed to test out potential starters. Because the game is competitive on an individual level (but not so much at the team level), it is very difficult to provide a match up for the game. There's no telling who will play and for how long, nor what kind of program will be run under coaches wanting to call "vanilla" plays.

So what we will do is provide a game prep based on the concept that the game counts, is a part of the regular season, and that the starters are playing four quarters. Call it a preseason practice for the "game prep" author to get up to speed if you will. By reading the articles in the preseason as if they were regular games, the predictive value is worthless, but the value in gauging the strengths and weaknesses of our players and system should provide some good insight on what to expect this year.

The big treat (I hope) is that students of the reloading season series "MHR University" will be able to recognize the terms and concepts in the game preps, and watch the game of football with a trained and discerning eye. If you missed the series, no worries mate! Just click the links in the story to read up on the terms.

Read on...

 

Star-divide

 

Denver Offensive SystemZone Block (one cut variation) / West Coast Offense

vs.

Dallas Defensive SystemPhillips 3-4 System

 

  • All things being equal (players), the Denver system has a major advantage on the inside run, while the Dallas defense has the advantage stopping outside runs. 

 

The Phillips 3-4 is a one gap version of the 3-4 defense, and is named for Bum Phillips, father of current Dallas coach Wade Phillips.  Denver sees the system at least twice a year against SD.  The zone block scheme is designed to rip apart one gap defenders, particularly on slants.  Because the 3-4 features outside linebackers that are set out wider than in a 4-3 defense, sweep runs to the edges are hard for most offenses.  But the Denver offense uses the one cut running scheme in concert with the zone blocking offensive line, and will be running to the inside (after the running back makes his cut).  Denver should hit the gut with power runs and one cuts, but avoid too many wide runs unless the Dallas OLBs start cheating to the inside.

 

  • All things being equal (players), the Denver pass attack and Dallas pass defense are balanced.

 

The West Coast Offense is heavy on misdirection to support the run game.  Bootlegs will be difficult plays because Dallas can assign OLBs zones or containment assignments to keep Cutler from rolling out effectively.  This also helps to blunt the option play that Denver plays around with from time to time.

 

WCO is also heavy on short, high percentage passes.  Dallas is likely to use the linebacking corps to zone the midfield, while at least one LB joins the pass rush every (passing down) play.

 

Denver might choose to use several two TE sets to account for blitzes from the edge by the Dallas OLBs.

 

In short, if Denver can establish the run game, the adjustments made by Dallas to compensate should tip the passing balance to Denver.  If Dallas can take an early lead to force Denver to pass, Dallas takes away the Denver advantage in rushing.

 

Personnel – Dallas Defense / Denver Offense (deception versus finesse)

 

Denver should have a high powered offense going into this game.  At TE, Scheffler has the size / speed combination to cause problems for any OLB, and Dallas might have to adjust by putting strong safety Roy Williams on him.  Graham might have the potential to break out this year as a passer, but in a game with blitzes coming from any of four line backers, expect him to be used heavily as the elite blocker that he is.

 

Marshall should be on the advantage catching mid to short range passes and powering ahead for yards after catches.  In longer passes, he may run into some danger.  Each of the Cowboys’ cornerbacks is a solid player, but deeper in the field is a powerful combination of safeties, Williams and Hamlin.

 

On the other side, Denver has the choice of stretching the field with speedy newcomer Royal (who would tear safeties away from Marshall), or using D. Jackson in his favorite role hitting seams.  Dallas is deep at CB (Henry and Jones are competing to start opposite Newman), so the addition of a third receiver (Stokley) wouldn’t hurt Dallas as much as it would most teams in the NFL.

 

Cutler is consistently improving, and is already head and shoulders above the rest of his draft class of QBs.  He should have a harder time throwing against the 3-4 (because of the mid range zones they will use), but should thrive whenever more receivers are added.  Note that Jones is a “Dre Bly” type player (a gambler), but has better deep zone protection with his safeties than Bly does in Denver.

 

Denver may or may not stop the blitzes from the Phillips 3-4 (they will blitz often, but usually only one LB at a time).  The line has a lot of youth (Clady and possibly Harris), and some injury concerns (Nalen).  The return of Holland from “over”weight training should help.  (Denver gave up zero sacks last week against Hou).

 

Each of the Denver RBs should do well in the system match-up, but the Broncos will miss Torain, who would have been a perfect power back to exploit the weak (by design) first level of the 3-4.

 

Dallas Offensive System – Vertical pass / Man Block - 2 Back

vs.

Denver Defensive System(man) Show Blitz

 

  • All things being equal (players), the Dallas running game should have a moderate advantage over the Denver system.

 

Dallas uses a standard blocking scheme, but with much more emphasis on power.  While technique and quickness is more in line with Denver’s offensive line, and other teams favor more individuality and strength, the Dallas scheme places much more emphasis than normal on making contact and using brute force after the contact is made.

 

Here is a quick read, excerpted from Sports Illustrated (Ross Tucker - Thursday May 22, 2008 4:28PM; Updated: Friday May 23, 2008 11:18AM) that talks about different offensive line traits, as well as the Dallas emphasis.  In the piece, Tucker discusses four  key qualities in OLmen: Reach, Football IQ, quickness, and size/power.

 

Two excerpts:

 

As one would expect, not every offensive line coach trumpets the same characteristics when determining the likelihood of success for a given player. The Indianapolis Colts Howard Mudd looks primarily for quickness and arm length because of the way he teaches his offensive linemen to jump set in pass protection. Alex Gibbs, now of the Houston Texans, has had success for years by finding lean athletes with great lateral speed to run his one-cut zone blocking scheme. Others, like the New England Patriots Dante Scarnecchia, emphasize mental and physical toughness, believing those players will come through in the clutch.

 

And he uses Dallas as a prime example of power:

The two characteristics that one thinks of when talking about offensive linemen -- outstanding size and power -- are more a luxury than a necessity. Without a high level of the first three qualities I've already listed, a player with great size or power will always be a step slow or a second late. Raw power really only comes into play once a defender is engaged.

That being said, it is certainly a nice thing to have and there are coaches out there like the Cowboys' Hudson Houck and the Redskins' Joe Bugel who place a premium on a player's ability to generate power. The luxury of being an above-average player in terms of size or power is that you can be more patient with many of your movements knowing your size will help protect you.

In pass protection, for example, an extremely powerful player can sit back, relax, and wait for his defender to come to him, knowing full well that he doesn't have to worry about the bull rush. This patience allows players like the Ravens' Jonathan Ogden or the Eagles' Shawn Andrews to see things unfold up front and react to them, rather than getting out of position as a result of being overaggressive.

The 2 back scheme used by Dallas will feature a power runner (Marion Barber, pro bowler) and a speedster (Felix Jones).

Denver’s Show Blitz system is a predominantly one gap approach used to generate pass rushes.  You can’t have everything in a defense, and Denver puts more emphasis on wrecking the opponent’s passing game.  While Denver can fill every gap and still have players left to catch whatever gets through, Denver is still gambling that speed and multiple tacklers will trump any advantage an opponent tries to generate in the run game.

Denver will also use penetration to attempt to disrupt running plays in the backfield before they get started, but this can be difficult against the Dallas system.

  • All things being equal (players), Denver’s Pass defense should have a moderate advantage over the Dallas passing attack.

Denver’s system will blitz heavily at times, and “show” blitzes that back off into man coverage the rest of the time.  The intent is to maximize stress and confusion for both the OL and the QB.  This approach can generate turnovers both in turns of fumbles and interceptions.  Denver hopes to capitalize on turnovers with a system that provides speed to the loose ball.

The pressure on the QB should prevent the vertical pass attack from developing on most plays.  However, Dallas will gamble that their running attack will force Denver to adjust for the run game, whereupon Dallas will strike deep with long pass, big plays.

Personnel – Denver Defense / Dallas Offense (speed vs. power)

The two names that stand out on the Dallas offense to most outsiders are Owens (WR) and M. Barber (RB).  Both are clearly Pro Bowl players, and elite at what they do.  What some folks might not realize is that Dallas is deep at WR.

Looking at Denver, anyone might notice legendary Champ Bailey (CB).  They might not notice Pro Bowl talent Dre Bly(CB), and up and coming star Foxworth(CB).  Both teams have the talent to match-up great receivers and corner backs, but the strength that Dallas has at safety is missing in Denver.  Not that Denver is terrible at the SAF position, but is instead a question mark.  Josh Barrett may be a dark horse, and Abdullah may be improved over last year.  McCree leaves SD to try his fortune in DEN, having being ousted by a younger star there.  Denver misses Lynch, a hard hitting and intelligent player at strong safety.

And while Dallas has justifiable pride in their offensive line and RBs, Denver is recovering from last year’s failed experiment with the Run-Contain system, which did nothing to stop the run at all.  Denver’s only major addition to the DT corps is D. Robinson (not counting rookie Powell on IR), and Denver will have three LBs playing in LB positions new to the this year (Williams back to WILL, Webster or Niko to MIKE, and whomever takes over for injured Boss Bailey at SAM).

Summary

If this were a regular season game (the way I broke down the match-ups), I would expect both teams to establish the running game early. 

I would expect Dallas to march down the field by punching the ball up the gut of the Broncos, and making the big plays in the air.  I would expect Denver to win the turnover battle, and to also march the ball down the field.  Denver’s big plays would be runs that break into the open, and turnovers.  Despite Denver’s multiple aerial threats at TE and WR, Dallas has the secondary to contain passes to mid range.

Keys to the game:

Dallas

  1. Prevent turnovers
  2. Get an early lead
  3. Control the clock

Denver

  1. Protect Cutler
  2. Run the ball effectively
  3. Stop the run

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Again, grant that this isn't a regular season game.  The teams won't use several of the above named players for more than a few plays (if at all).  They will also tailor the game plan to maximize tryouts and practice, not to win.

In the spirit of learning, I hope the above prep will not only give you an appreciation for what we have learned over the reloading season, but gets you into an analytical frame of mind for the upcoming season.

Here's to an injury free pre-season game for both teams, luck to the rookies, and hopes for a good season.

Your defensive coordinator in residence,

Hoosierteacher

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We tend to forget that Champ Bailey has been consistently

owned by one wide receiver in this league….Terrell Owens. If there were the regular season, one of the keys to the game for me would be how Champ handles TO. Was that Philly game a fluke?

Oh and great post HT, can’t wait for the real deal!

If God is not a Bronco fan, then WHY are sunsets Blue and Orange? - Jon Tollerud 5/22/08

I got a high ankle sprain in college and it still hurts! ~ TSG 8/13/08

by Tim Lynch on Aug 14, 2008 3:49 PM MDT reply actions  

If I remember right

TO only “owned” Champ on the one touchdown play. I think Champ held him in check the rest of the game.

"It's all over Fat Man"
- Tom Jackson to John Madden 1977 AFC Championship Game

"I wouldn't say he's nowhere near T.O."
- Pacman Jones on Brandon Marshall

by DesertBroncoFan on Aug 14, 2008 3:52 PM MDT up reply actions  

I could have sworn Champ got burned twice that game....

both for long plays.

If God is not a Bronco fan, then WHY are sunsets Blue and Orange? - Jon Tollerud 5/22/08

I got a high ankle sprain in college and it still hurts! ~ TSG 8/13/08

by Tim Lynch on Aug 14, 2008 4:44 PM MDT up reply actions  

That was the game that Champ took himself out because he was suffering from a hamstring injury. Owens burned him a couple of times but Champ wasn’t anywhere near 100%. I think he sat out the next two or three games as well.

by jaffe28 on Aug 15, 2008 3:48 PM MDT up reply actions  

Still, he hasn't faced TO in a game situation since, so until he proved otherwise

TO owns Champ. I don’t do excuses….

If God is not a Bronco fan, then WHY are sunsets Blue and Orange? - Jon Tollerud 5/22/08

I got a high ankle sprain in college and it still hurts! ~ TSG 8/13/08

by Tim Lynch on Aug 15, 2008 4:27 PM MDT up reply actions  

That's hardly an excuse in the negative sense.

Champ barely got burned on that play, and with a notable injury. Saying that TO “owns” Champ is a little strong for a guy getting burned while injured. The truth of the matter is that most CBs would get burned several time by a player of TO’s quality, and do it with no injury.

I don’t do excuses either. But I do reasonable explanations.

"Greater is an army of sheep led by a lion, than an army of lions led by a sheep" Defoe

by Steve Nichols on Aug 15, 2008 6:53 PM MDT up reply actions  

Not too mention

Champ had a bad hammy. So TO burned him when Champ was about 70%

by broncfanstuckinsd on Aug 14, 2008 4:26 PM MDT up reply actions  

I was just replying when I saw your response . . .

Indeed, Champ was suffering from a bad hammy. On the double move that ended in a TD, Champ clearly bit, but he still could have run T.O. down. But for someone with a bad hammy, I think Champ acquitted himself quite well the rest of the game.

It won’t matter Saturday night, however. Champ will be sitting.

Never pass up the opportunity to keep your mouth shut. - my daddy

by AZDynamics on Aug 14, 2008 8:59 PM MDT up reply actions  

Plus at that time

Denver was up big over Philly then he didnt play anymore in that game.

I dont think Champ needs to play before the opener against the faders

by broncfanstuckinsd on Aug 15, 2008 11:27 AM MDT up reply actions  

All things considered...

…and if this were a real game, I think the lack of top notch safeties behind Bailey hurts a little, but the added emphasis on pass rushing helps. If Bailey is going to get burned for a TD, it could be against an elite WR like TO with an improving Romo throwing to him. But it won’t happen often, and the danger of a INT (and an INT for a TD) is a very real threat.

I don’t think TO would be the go to guy in a real match-up. Bailey is a serious threat to INT 1 in 3 passes his way (as he did one year).

"Greater is an army of sheep led by a lion, than an army of lions led by a sheep" Defoe

by Steve Nichols on Aug 14, 2008 4:02 PM MDT reply actions  

I still think Champ broke up 1 in 3 passes his way last year...

INT come in bunches…he was just too busy tackling running backs last year to intercept many passes. ;)

If God is not a Bronco fan, then WHY are sunsets Blue and Orange? - Jon Tollerud 5/22/08

I got a high ankle sprain in college and it still hurts! ~ TSG 8/13/08

by Tim Lynch on Aug 14, 2008 5:38 PM MDT up reply actions  

Time

Give Romo enough time and he’ll find TO and get the completion. Champ is the best, but we need our pass rush to dominate Romo and ge him off his game.

Atwater for the Hall!

by Doc Bear on Aug 14, 2008 7:10 PM MDT reply actions  

I agree

There is nothing I like more than a good ol’ pass rush. We need to be able to penetrate their offensive line and get pressure on Tony all day or even the best corners and safteys won’t prevent us from getting lit up.

To have striven, to have made the effort, to have been true to certain ideals - this alone is worth the struggle. - William Penn

Tom Arnold, of Fox Sports Net's Best Damn Sports Show Period, said this about Warren Sapp: "Hey, Warren, the Raiders signed you to a seven-year deal. I guess Bill Callahan was right --- they are the dumbest team in America."

by Philistine21 on Aug 14, 2008 7:25 PM MDT up reply actions  

i wonder if time is overrated...

we had the fewest sacks in 15 years in 2005 and Champ still had an MVP year….

If God is not a Bronco fan, then WHY are sunsets Blue and Orange? - Jon Tollerud 5/22/08

I got a high ankle sprain in college and it still hurts! ~ TSG 8/13/08

by Tim Lynch on Aug 14, 2008 8:58 PM MDT up reply actions  

That's not time . . .

That’s Champ. :)

Never pass up the opportunity to keep your mouth shut. - my daddy

by AZDynamics on Aug 14, 2008 9:03 PM MDT up reply actions  

HEY TEACH...

Although I thought that I was going to miss the U, this article turned my appreciation of your insights in an intirely different direction! I am looking forward to the season and “the PREPS” that we will all recieve from your input! Don’t QUIT! Keep up the good work. I, for one, appreciate the fact that there is a good deal of research that must be done in order to put together “a report”, or article, that is informative and educational, let alone, fun to read. THANX A LOT! Lookng forward 2 a lot more.

by metalman5050 on Aug 14, 2008 7:30 PM MDT reply actions  

Thanks for the kind words Metal

Now worries about quitting. I love the Broncos and the MHR community too much for that. Comments like yours make the work very worthwhile.

"Greater is an army of sheep led by a lion, than an army of lions led by a sheep" Defoe

by Steve Nichols on Aug 15, 2008 3:14 AM MDT up reply actions  

Let's look much better than last year.....

That’s all I want.

Broncos broncos everywhere and all the league did blink,

by Mike Clark on Aug 14, 2008 7:40 PM MDT reply actions  

Really great report, Hoosier . . .

Just one thing: You said all three LBs will be playing a positions new to them. However, Will is what D.J. played all through college and his first year here. And Niko and Webster are natural MLBs. Just saying . . .

Never pass up the opportunity to keep your mouth shut. - my daddy

by AZDynamics on Aug 14, 2008 9:07 PM MDT reply actions  

I did write...

“…new to them this year”. I probably didn’t do a good enough job elaborating. Niko, Webster, and Boss are all new to the team, and Webster player SAM last year while DJ played MLB last year. DJ played WILL a few years back.

"Greater is an army of sheep led by a lion, than an army of lions led by a sheep" Defoe

by Steve Nichols on Aug 15, 2008 3:24 AM MDT up reply actions  

I think it's the other way around . . .

I didn’t do a good enough job of READING.

I see your point on the LBs, but I still don’t think the Broncos are in too bad of shape there. Remember, D.J. was third place for Rookie of the Year at Will, and he hadn’t played pro ball at all before that, of course.

And despite Boss’ being hammered so roundly on the message boards, he was actually pretty good when healthy . . . “healthy” is the key with him. But I don’t attribute this last incident toward being “injury prone.” His foot was caught underneath him under a ton of weight . . . it can happen.

My concern is lack of depth on the strong side. Good as D.J. is, both Winborn and Beck are natural Wills, and Niko and Nate have each other. Boss is the only natural Sam the Broncos have, I think.

But it’s not like they are destitute at LB. I’m more concerned about RB at the moment. I did feel somewhat comforted by Torain’s size and durability, but then he’s the one who is out injured! I have no problem with the skill level at RB. Selvin and Hall are really good at what they do. (Alridge is a scat back; let’s face it.) But can they hold up? If Pittman were a good RB, they wouldn’t be trying him at FB, I wouldn’t think, anyway. But Cutler needs a runnning game under him to help implement his passing game.

I really believe the Broncos are well stocked in most areas. They just need experience and gelling, which will be their problem this year, IMO. They will win games they should lose and lose games they should win. Question is, how much more of one than the other?

Never pass up the opportunity to keep your mouth shut. - my daddy

by AZDynamics on Aug 15, 2008 4:35 PM MDT up reply actions  

I think all of those comments are reasonable.

I disagree very, very slightly on one thing. Pittman isn’t being tried at FB because he can’t perform at a good level as a FB. He’s our leading prospect as a power runner (with Torain out of the picture), and any power guy at HB is going to get a look at FB under a coach who rarely brings in true FBs (Hillis being an exception).

I’m confident that this year, as in past years, we can run with success with any of three or four RBs on our roster. Our system is good, our RBs match the system, and our OL is good. At worst, Selvin rotates with another RB and we do well, or he proves to be an every down guy. I’ll go so far as to say that even if Selvin went down, our depth would keep us up.

The LB situation could truly go either way. I agree with your points, yet I also don’t see us as an “A” grade other than WILL so far. Of course, it is way too early to tell.

Solid points AZD!

"Greater is an army of sheep led by a lion, than an army of lions led by a sheep" Defoe

by Steve Nichols on Aug 15, 2008 7:01 PM MDT up reply actions  

I would disagree that Dallas has good safeties

Roy Williams, while being a good hitter is absolutely awful in coverage. Dallas commonly will pull him out in obvious passing situations.

by calvinandhobbes on Aug 14, 2008 10:28 PM MDT reply actions  

You and I both...

share a passion for the school of thought that safeties should both be coverage guys and (mostly) be in deeper coverages.

Never the less, I wouldn’t take anything away from a player who doesn’t fit my personal approach. I wasn’t a fan of the “Lynch” type of safety either, but there’s no denying he was very, very good at what he did and that there is a role for hard hitting, run stoppers at safety. On plays where Williams is in and the offense goes ahead and passes, Williams adjusts pretty well despite his speed. He reads offenses well enough to know when to backpeddle into a zone (in my opinion).

"Greater is an army of sheep led by a lion, than an army of lions led by a sheep" Defoe

by Steve Nichols on Aug 15, 2008 3:28 AM MDT up reply actions  

Williams

Is a big liability in the secondary when it comes to coverages. He often takes bad angles and is horrible. Plus when you get a peanalty because of the way you tackle. I would take that as he isnt that good covering players. He is a good run stuffer

by broncfanstuckinsd on Aug 15, 2008 11:30 AM MDT up reply actions  

A lot of hard hitting / run stopping safeties...

…are liabilities in coverage; you’re right. You and I agree that they aren’t the ideal. But there are several valid schools of thought on how to use safeties. While I disagree with the concept, there are great coaches that advocate the hard hitting / run stopping variety of safety. It doesn’t make it better or worse, it’s a difference of opinion / style.

But you and I definately agree on how we see the role of safeties.

"Greater is an army of sheep led by a lion, than an army of lions led by a sheep" Defoe

by Steve Nichols on Aug 15, 2008 7:04 PM MDT up reply actions  

some thoughts

i guess we’re not going to see much of the quick passes to the outside that we used in the texans game here. i’d like to see us have some success on the inside running, but i think we really are going to miss a power back there. this is a season-long concern of mine, and pittman doesn’t look like the answer. maybe hillis(if he plays), or sapp will get some touches there.
defensively, i just don’t want to see dallas running all over us. i’m still looking for some intestinal fortitude down the middle, maybe d-rob will help(if he plays). the pass rush will, of course, have to be better, but i have my doubts sending 4 guys in this system. we may have to blitz more on obvious passing downs, somewhat negating the surprise aspect of the play-calling. this should be an interesting game to watch from many angles

by davecheffy on Aug 14, 2008 11:49 PM MDT reply actions  

Fantastic post, HT

Makes me look forward to the real deal season even more

Atwater for the Hall!

by Doc Bear on Aug 15, 2008 12:17 AM MDT reply actions  

Thanks Bear!

We both look forward to it!

"Greater is an army of sheep led by a lion, than an army of lions led by a sheep" Defoe

by Steve Nichols on Aug 15, 2008 3:29 AM MDT up reply actions  

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