Denver Broncos Training Camp Quotes -- 8/14 AM - Shanahan, Brandon Marshall and D.J. Williams

HEAD COACH MIKE SHANAHAN
On the morning practice --
"I felt we had a great practice today, an extension of what we had yesterday. We got a chance to evaluate a lot of our people. We got a chance to evaluate them under different conditions, (and) we are very pleased."
On practice being more intense than Wednesday's sessions --
"Usually, the second day is always that way. It was the same way last year. I've probably practiced with a different team seven or eight times since I've been in the National Football League, and it never changes. That second day is usually a bit more competitive and we had some great work."
On Cowboys LB Zach Thomas --
"Zach is a great football player. I think we all know Zach Thomas. He practices at a certain level, and that's why he plays at a certain level every time he hits that football field. He's an experienced pro, a guy I have always admired and he had a good practice today."
On WR Brandon's Marshall's messages on the back of his shoulder pads --
"I think both of those guys (Marshall and Cowboys CB Adam Jones) are just having fun. There is a lot of respect level there by both guys just going out and competing. Brandon has a hard time staying quiet though after someone takes a shot at him, I do know that."
On tempers flaring during practice --
"It wasn't a fight. That's was just a little pushing. That happens all the time, but they kept their composure and they didn't swing. That's what you want. Tempers are going to flare up a little bit. That's the nature of this profession. But (they were) professional enough to back off and players laugh at it and smile. That's part of practicing against another team. But there were no swings and that's what I appreciated. Two teams acted in a professional manner, and hopefully we will have another good (practice) this afternoon."
On the purpose of practicing with the Cowboys before playing them in a preseason game --
"They get a chance to see what we are doing and we get a chance to see what they are doing. There isn't a gameplan involved, but you still want to go out and do a good job. You still want to evaluate players as well. If we were playing them in a regular season game, obviously we wouldn't be practicing against them, but that's not they key at this time of year, it's to try to find your best 53-man squad and also put your system in against other people. I think we have had a productive day-and-a-half."
On WR Darrell Jackson (ankle) missing practice --
"I can't tell you if he's going to play on Saturday, but it's not serious."
On comparing the maturation processes of Broncos QB Jay Cutler and Cowboys QB Tony Romo --
"I think it's a lot different. Romo was in a backup role, I believe, for four years if I'm not mistaken. He's a student of the game. When you run the scout team or if you are on a team as a quarterback and you have four years looking at different defenses, it's a little easier to go behind that center and read defenses. Jay is a little bit different. He wasn't thrown in the fire right away in the first year. It was a growing experience, but there are a little bit more growing pains the quicker you get in. Romo is reading coverages unbelievably. I admire how quickly he reads coverages and gets the ball to the right spot. He is going to have a heck of a year. You could see it out here today and yesterday."
On Cowboys QB Tony Romo's improvement from last season --
"I see a difference just watching (Romo) play last year. He plays with a lot of confidence, he knows where the ball is going and if something breaks down he has the ability to make a play on his own. He can throw the ball at all different angles and he is a heck of a weapon."

BRONCOS WR BRANDON MARSHALL
On the Broncos' morning practice --
"As a team we had a little drop off, but you know that's part of playing in the National Football League. We just got to be more consistent."
On competing against Dallas CB Adam Jones --
"Man, I won today."
On his message to CB Adam Jones on the back of his pads during morning practice --
"Basically, I said yesterday that ‘21 is no Champ (Bailey).' I thought about it for a moment today that since he's changed his name back to Adam he's not even Pac man. He's not even as good as Pac man used to be, but it's all in fun. I explained to him that he needed to spice it up because I'm winning right now."
On his intensity during practice against Dallas --
"I'm aiming for perfection, and today I had a little drop off. I had a few dropped balls and that's not like me. I was kind of upset with myself. I'm always trying to have a Pro Bowl day every day, and today is not one of those days."
On the high intensity overall from both sides of the ball --
"Yesterday was a little buddy-buddy system going on, but today was more intense and more physical. We got after it today and it was pretty even."
On doing one on one drills during practice --
"Well when you see Peyton Manning come out and he sees different coverages whether it's press or off coverage, he changes it up. As a defensive back in the NFL, you make your money doing press coverage. So I said, ‘Let's go deep.' We went deep. We went 100 percent going deep against Pac man Jones - I mean Adam - Sorry. And we won."
On competing against Dallas CB Adam Jones
"It's exciting to be able to go against someone else and to be able to go out and compete against another team. You got to motivate yourself a little more when you wake up every day going against the same guy. Today felt like game day a little bit."
BRONCOS LINEBACKER D.J. WILLIAMS
On if the intensity picked up Thursday morning compared to yesterday's practice with the Cowboys --
"Definitely. When you are going against other guys, guys that you are not friends with, sometimes tempers flare."
On the squabble that broke out during practice between teams --
"I really can't say what happened. I guess two guys got into it a little extra at the end of the play. Once that happens, your friends come and their friends come and pile on, just grabbing, pushing and tugging away."
More on the intensity of today's practice --
"I guess yesterday, people were feeling each other out. We felt that we had the upper hand early in the morning yesterday, and we knew they were going to come out with a higher intensity level and they did that. We all came out and practiced hard today."
On if there is competition to win each practice --
"Definitely, we do that with our own team. Sometimes when we go against our own team, the defense will win and the offense will come out extra motivated because the coaches in the meetings are yelling at you and things like that. It makes us want to come out and give that extra effort the next practice."
On the difference between competing against Broncos QB Jay Cutler and Cowboys QB Tony Romo --
"It's kind of hard to tell. I am not a DB, so I am not staring at the quarterback most of the time. Most of the time I am on man coverage on somebody, so I really can't tell you."
On Cowboys RB Marion Barber --
"He is a very strong runner. His speed is a little bit deceptive, he is a lot faster than people give him credit for. He runs well inside the tackles and outside."
On being moved back to weak side linebacker --
"I am just happy to be out there. I'm playing WILL some downs and MIKE on others. Once you start to play linebacker, it is really not that big of a difference."
On his confidence for the Broncos stopping the run --
"I think the scheme that we have is better and the guys that we have. Our inside scheme, I think, is a lot better than what we had last year. With the players, you can have the best scheme in the world but if you don't have the talent it is not going to mean anything."
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any significance to the WILL saying that he is in man coverage most of the time?
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by styg50 on
Aug 14, 2008 3:33 PM MDT
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Yes, a lot.
First, it demonstrates that we will run the “man” show blitz that Coyer had, and not the more common zone system for shows.
Second, it might demonstrate some concern for the MLB (but not necessarily). If MIKE is the weak link in our LB group, it is possible that WILL will cover the RB while MIKE either zones the center near scrimmage or covers the FB in case of screens.
Last, it might demonstrate so much confidence in the pass rush up front, that each LB can man a player (HB, FB, TE) without the extra blitzes as often. If Doom continues his improvement, this could be the case.
The least likely explanation is that he really meant he is in zone, but watching who comes his way so he can switch into man. But I doubt a pro level player would choose to use “man coverage” unless he actually meant it. Another unlikely scenario is that he meant man when he is in the MLB role (which he is doing some of the time, for some odd reason).
WILLs often zone the weakside or blitz, and they rarely go man. Good on you for catching the statement!
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by hoosierteacher on
Aug 14, 2008 4:27 PM MDT
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What about word that DJ will be playing MLB in passing situations..
is that further demonstration that our MLB position is a weak link? What will that mean for us during the season??
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by Zappa on
Aug 14, 2008 4:52 PM MDT
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It's a mixed deal.
DJ is fast and experienced, so I could see him in the role. But Niko was supposed to fill the role of a coverage MLB, and the fact that he would have to give way to DJ does bother me a bit. Styg’s point becomes more prominant now. If DJ is playing man at the WILL position AND playing MLB for passing situations, this may not be a good sign. I want to see how things develop before I have a solid opinion on what’s going on. There may be an explanation that makes more sense that will make me feel better.
Still, I’m starting to get the idea that Niko and Webster are both competing for MLB, but neither has the “star” quality a team really wants at the position. Consider that the on field communications device will be in DJ’s helmet, not the MLB’s helmet (perhaps another ominous clue). So what might that mean for the season?
It may not be as bad as it sounds. Teams rarely have one, let alone two, let alone three top quality LBs. Denver was blessed during the Gold, Wilson, Williams era. Most teams make adjustments to take advantage of strengths and to cover weaknesses, and very few teams if any have no weaknesses whatsoever.
That being said, Denver has several options. DJ can help at man while the MLB zones (playing on Niko’s speed or Webster’s experience). They can also place the MLB on an “easier” assignment, like the FB. The MLB may plug a gap at times to buy the other LBs time (in runs). It’s not the end of the world to not have Superman at MLB if you have good players at several other positions.
On the other hand, if our DTs don’t measure up, and if the SAM side of the ball is underperforming, we could have some problems. This would be a test of Slowik’s skills as an adjuster (something Coyer wasn’t great at, despite his other fine talents as a coordinator).
Let’s wait to see how this plays out before getting nervous.
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by hoosierteacher on
Aug 14, 2008 6:22 PM MDT
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I'm already pretty nervous
though your words hearten me. Right now, neither looks like a starting LB. Niko just keeps getting swallowed up in there. And I’ve never been a big fan of Webster. He misses too many tackles he should make, and that Al Wilson would have made, by just flying around with his head down and overpursuing. But with these young guys, it’s always best to stay patient and keep hope. Hopefully one of them can develop into a bigtime MLB. If not, I’m looking forward to drafting James Lauranaitis (sic) or Rey Maualuga (sic) in the first round of 2009
by papigrande on
Aug 14, 2008 6:47 PM MDT
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(Very nice use of "sic" by the way)
I agree in part. Webster overpursues a lot, but it may not be so bad in a simpler system and at his comfort position. I don’t know. I don’t know much about Niko getting swallowed.
On the other hand, I want to be careful about contrasts with Wilson. Wilson was exceptional, and it will be some time before we get that kind of quality again.
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by hoosierteacher on
Aug 15, 2008 12:55 PM MDT
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Maybe this is too simplistic of a thought
but DJ is the best LB we have, and a proven everydown player with experience at every postion, including MLB, and the most experienced in Slo’s likely scheme, and the most experience with the team, period. Add to it that he has never had a significant injury, and we are talking the best candidate on the roster to wear the defensive mic.
That means he will be in on nickel and dime, and Boss is an automatic for the SAM for the nickel formation. Instead of having the extra DB hovering in the middle, he lines up on the weakside, approximately in DJ’s WLB position.
I think it may be less about Niko/Nate (N2??) and more about how dynamic DJ is…
Mountains, forest, sea: these render man fierce, but yet do not destroy the man.
by styg50 on
Aug 14, 2008 8:54 PM MDT
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Not simplisitc at all.
Your points all make sense to me. I’m just thinking that if DJ is so much better in every category that you listed, maybe we should have kept him at MLB. But it’s still too early for us to pass judgement. Webster or Niko may be good for us this season. Heck, the season hasn’t even started yet.
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by hoosierteacher on
Aug 15, 2008 12:49 PM MDT
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it was my impression that
Webster has speed. Coachscout, for instance has him doing the 40 in 4.58.
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by AZDynamics on
Aug 14, 2008 9:59 PM MDT
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Yes
I tend to think that Niko shows more game speed from the very little I’ve seen of his STs work though. I could be wrong.
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by hoosierteacher on
Aug 15, 2008 12:51 PM MDT
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could it be
That Denver wants to keep DJ on the field for every defensive snap?
by broncfanstuckinsd on
Aug 15, 2008 11:34 AM MDT
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That sounds very reasonable
..and it blends nicely with Styg’s point. Still, it begs the question about just leaving the man at MLB, but that’s my just my opinion.
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by hoosierteacher on
Aug 15, 2008 12:52 PM MDT
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Maybe
The coaches think using his quickness on the outside on the weak side makes him more dangerous. Plus maybe they plan on using him to blitz a lot. Plus I think Boss and DJ are quicker than K2 or Webster. Another thought I had was the reasoning for moving him back is could be a problem for other teams offense. Where they have to account where he is at all time. Unlike playing MLB the QB sees him immediately. It could prove to make the opposing offence play into the d’s hands
by broncfanstuckinsd on
Aug 15, 2008 12:56 PM MDT
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All of your points are correct; no doubt about it.
And I’m sure that is the reasoning too.
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by hoosierteacher on
Aug 16, 2008 6:43 PM MDT
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FYI
The “little scuffle” this morning was instigated by Flozell Adams who was pissed off that Marcus Thomas broke through for a “sack”. Adams pulled Thomas’ helmet off and started shoving him. Dirty play for a “practice”…I hope Marcus goes on to piss off a lot of offensive linemen this year. :)
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by Zappa on
Aug 14, 2008 3:39 PM MDT
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par for the course
Adams is a pos hothead. If he can let someone into his kitchen like that during practice what until its a real game
by broncfanstuckinsd on
Aug 14, 2008 3:41 PM MDT
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Well, Adams' explanation
was that Thomas shoved him afterward, and he (Adams) ignored it, but Thomas shoved him again, and that is when Adams took after Thomas. That may very well be.
If it’s the truth, I’m absolutely tickled. I want to see some NASTY from our guys in those trenches this year.
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by AZDynamics on
Aug 15, 2008 12:07 PM MDT
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I am with you on that.-
Thats what we need out of our DT’s. I have a feeling Denver stole Thomas last year
by broncfanstuckinsd on
Aug 15, 2008 12:12 PM MDT
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I read in one of the articles that
Adams actually made contact with Thomas’ head with the helmet. I thought it was more of a swing and a miss.
If he did actually hit him then Adams needs to be suspended (or maybe arrested – they do it in hockey games in Canada)!
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by DesertBroncoFan on
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