but I would like to see Ramsey replaced next year by a reliable backup.

It is clear Warner wants to be a starter, and bringing him here would be great, but I doubt he would be a willing back-up, and we know Jay is the man here. I think that he will probably resign in Phoenix and Leinart may be out the door, maybe we can get him to back-up Cutler.

I agree, I think Ramsey is a horrible QB.

But they’re going to need him in AZ to groom whomever they draft to replace Leinart… :)

A decision will have to be made on Ramsey regardless of how one feels about his performance. I have a feeling the coaching staff will want to get more performance out of the backup QB, and his several million dollar contract makes it somewhat unlikely that he’ll be returning next year.

Warner brings bad mojo. He may “say” the right things, but wouldn’t want him anywhere near Cutler. What you want in a backup is young, developing talent (ie, some QBs just need more time to adjust to the NFL game) and/or smart QB who manages the game (ie, see Trent “I can’t believe I won a SB” Dilfer).

Warner also wants to start. He does not, contrary to whatever he may say, want to be a backup. He also needs the right system and team. See his NYG experience.

Lastly, Warner will start in AZ this year. Leinart is a bust.

Sorry, I’m not a Warner fan. Biased I am…

Warner wont come here, for one he will not get a chance to start period. Plus he is a malcontent. He wants to be the starter and isnt a good teammate (IMO). I would rather he go to oakland or sd and cause problems there. I agree the Broncos need a better back up, but these guys are back ups for a reason.

I would say in rare cases (see WIKI T.O.) it can be done. Warner could make a good backup in Denver if he was actually willing to acknowledge his starting days may be over. I think that would need to be Shanny’s first question to him. If there is any reluctance then there are numerous other options.

Cutler is past the stage when he can benefit from a veteran mentor type. Let Ramsey go next year (and don’t even talk to me about Warner) and keep Hackney around and look for a sleeper in the mid rounds. Gary Kubiak was a 6th or 7th round pick, as I recall.

I wouldn’t waste a roster spot on either though. Maybe alice will cut russel and we can make a backup project out of him. Just think of it, he could play back up TE too.

Culpepper is out there and brings a lot more talent than either Ramsey or Warner, I say we sign him, let him learn under Shanny and Bates for two years, show him off in preseason and then trade him for some choice draft picks.

The MSM has given up on Leinart already, but gave called Mike Vick “still young and learning” as far as his most recent season, and said the same about Eli his entire career? Leinart hasn’t looked good, but he really didn’t play much last year.

and Warner is 37 years old, and has no more than 2 years left, by his own admission. I like Ramsey just fine, in the grand scheme of things, and there is no team which doesn’t suffer a huge drop-off from starter to backup QB, unless the starter really sucks.

We all remember Gary Kubiak fondly as an 8th round pick who made it big, but be threw 14 TDs against 16 INTs in his career, with 1,920 yards, and a passer rating of 70.2. He was never somebody who was counted on to win games in John Elway’s absence, just as Ramsey couldn’t be counted on in Jay’s absence. There aren’t even 32 winning QBs in the NFL, let alone 64. Don Banks, who is kind of a weaselly dork, with a high pitched speaking voice, wrote an article ranking the backup QBs today. He ranks Todd Collins of Washington first, and Ramsey 20th. Collins gets love because he won 4 games last year, but he barely played for a decade before that. I think Patrick could do okay for 3-4 games too, if needed, and not lose us games.

If you look at Banks’ article, I only think 3 guys on the list are starter caliber (Quinn, Losman, Alex Smith,) and Losman and Smith’s teams seem to have (foolishly IMO) given up on them already. Ramsey is high on talent for a backup, and accepts his reality of being a backup. I’m fine with him, and I think it could be much, much worse.

and Alex Smith has both things. He’s also still only 24 years old, and looked like he was coming into his own 2 years ago for the 49ers when Norv Turner was still the OC. He regressed last year when they hired Jim Hostler as a replacement, and found he was in over his head. Smith also got hurt, and tried to play through it, which made both his play and the injury worse.

He is probably not going to do it in SF, but I think Alex Smith will be a solid starting QB somewhere, eventually. I wasn’t saying he was better than Ramsey, because starter types and backup types are different animals. A first round pick at QB remains a starter type until he fails with 2 teams (in Ramsey’s case Washington and the Jets, for Joey Harrington Detroit and Miami, etc.) Once a guy flames out as a starter, a determination gets made if he’s got the right temperament and makeup to be a backup. Ramsey is a backup QB, he knows it, and he’s comfortable with it. Smith knows that he’ll get another chance to succeed as a starter elsewhere, and the same is true of JP Losman. it’s a different situation than where Ramsey is. Ramsey is now on a Todd Collins career path.

Under normal circumstances i would say no, but if the option is between him and Ramsey then i give a yes.