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Live Bloggin From Broncos Training Camp - 8/2 AM Notes and Photos

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First, my apologies for the tardiness of this report.  With the Broncos taking the afternoon off to celebrate Gary Zimmerman's induction into the Hall of Fame, I was fortunate enough to get an early flight back home Saturday afternoon/evening.  Then, of course, I had to get involved with being a dad again, something all fathers know whenever they are away for a few days.  That left little time to get this out and for that I apologize.

That said, I want to take a moment to thank the Denver Broncos Media Relations staff, including Patrick Smythe and his folks for making me feel welcome and giving me anything and everything I needed to make my job easier.  I also want to thank the Broncos internal Media staff, including Kyle Sonneman, Dave Gaylinn and others for making sure I didn't feel the wrath of Fred, the resident bad-ass security guy for the Broncos.  We have talked many times about the CLASSY type of organization the Broncos are, and it doesn't stop on the field.  These guys and gals are all class off the field as well, and it starts at the top with Mr. Bowlen and goes all the way down to the interns in the media room.  Thanks to all of you again!

 


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With all the Thank You's out of the way, let's break down what I saw on my final day of seeing practice up close and in person.....

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Mhr_logo_medium   Several Broncos who has missed a few days of practice were back in pads while a coupl others missed their first full day of workouts.  RB Michael Pittman and FB Peyton Hillis returned, while the following 4 players sat out the workout - S Hamza Abdullah(Groin), LB Boss Bailey(Right Knee), TE Chad Mustard(Right Hamstring) and C Tom Nalen(Left Knee).  From what I saw, no one was hurt  during the workout.

Mhr_logo_medium  This was easily the biggest crowd of the time I was here, and after a slow start the crowds and attention seem to be building.  Despite near record, triple digit heat, the fans and players were energetic and appeared ready to get to work.  At one point early in warmups, Jay Cutler had the crowd doing the wave.  It was a fun atmosphere between the team and the fan base that adores them.

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A large crowd was on hand to watch Saturday's AM Practice.

Mhr_logo_medium  While the team was still in shorts, to go with their shoulder pads and helmets, there appeared to me more hiiting today that in the past couple.  With the team having the rest of Saturday and all day Sunday to rest I am sure the coaches put extra emphasis on having a strong practice.  While still not the same as being in full pads, the energy on the field more closely resembled what we would expect to see during the Pre-Season.

Mhr_logo_medium  The overall energy level of the practice was solid, but it was a bit sloppy as well.  At several points in the practice players on both sides of the ball were chewed out of jumping off-sides or false start infractions, including, DE Elvis Dumervil, OL Erik Pears and TE Tony Scheffler

Mhr_logo_medium  Despite getting less than stellar reviews before I arrived, I though OL Ryan Harris has looked strong from what I have seen live.  Sure, he has been less than impressive in 1-on-1 drills, but the Broncos offensive line is built for group success and Harris has looked strong within the system.  Being injured much of last year's training camp didn't help Harris' cause, and this Camp is very much like a rookie camp for him.  Montrae Holland had better get back, and fast, or he could find himself out of a job.

Mhr_logo_medium  I have been impressed by Nate Webster so far.  He seems to be as healthy and athletic as at any point in the last 3 years.  He does tend to be pout of position, but he now can make up for it with speed.  He is my leader for the starting MLB job.

Mhr_logo_medium  Andre Hall has also looked strong, running some with the 1st team at running back.  He has good field vision and is a load to bring down.  He's been a name to watch in the past but injuries have slowed his progress.  Now healthy, Hall is making things very difficult for the decision makers.  Selvin Young has done nothing to lose the starting job, and he is still the starter in my mind.  Hall, however, has earned some carries.

Mhr_logo_medium  Jarvis Moss is coming along, though it is rather slowly.  He made some nice plays during 7 X 7 drills though he is still running with the 2nd team.  He states that he is healthy and ready to roll, but I am beginning to question whether or not he will ever become a 1st Round talent.

Mhr_logo_medium  The star of the day had to be K Matt Prater.  The Broncos worked on Field Goals during the middle part of the workout and Prater was nothing short of perfect, 10/10 from the following distances - 35, 35, 40, 40, 43,43, 46,46,58 and yes, an incredible 68 yards!  He easily had 5 yards to spare as well.  Yes, we need to wait until the lights are on to see if Prater can handle the real pressure, but there is NO DOUBTING this kids legs.  His kick-offs have also averaged 5-8 yards deep into the end-zone as well.  If that wasn't enough, Prater ending the workout with a 54-yard field goal to "win the game" during the final 2-minute drill.

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Matt Prater was the star of Saturday's workout, going 11/11 in FG chances

Mhr_logo_medium  Anthony Alridge was working some with the 3rd team offense.  I don't know if there is a place on the team for him in 2008, but his speed is something teams are going to have a hard time dealing with.  When he wants to get to the corner on sweep plays it is almost impossible to stop him.

Mhr_logo_medium  After getting dominated for the most part throughout Friday's practice, the D-Line was getting some pressure during 11 X 11 drills.  While there aren't "sacks" per say, the whistle will blow if the refs or coaches think the QB would have been taken down.  This happened on 3 different occasions, twice to Ramsey and once to Cutler, and Cutler was hurried into bad throws on a few other occasions.  The defense was also bringing some different rush packages from thir linebackers which was refreshing to see.

Mhr_logo_medium  There's this guy, he wears #15, and he is really, really good!

Mhr_logo_medium  The battle of the day was Brandon Marshall V. Domonique Foxworth when the 1st Team offense was going against the 2nd Team defense.  In two separate Red Zone drills Marshall made incredible catches against Foxworth to score.  I really don't think there is a DB in the League right now that can stop Marshall 1-on-1.  That includes our own All-World corner.

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Marshall and Foxworth were paired much of the day on Saturday

Mhr_logo_medium  Eddie Royal continued to impress, catching a WR screen, making two players miss, before streaking down the far sideline.  Royal is elusive as a wide receiver, something that is going to do him well because of his apparent lack of size.  After practice, he spent time with QB Darrell Hackney working on audible signs used during no-huddle/hurry-up situations.  The kid wants to learn and isn't resting on his athleticism alone.

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Hackney and Royal go over audibles after practice

 

Mhr_logo_medium Patrick Ramsey had another rough day.  He was "sacked" 3 different time and had a couple of passes batted down during Red Zone work.  Maybe it is just the comparison when working next to Cutler, but Ramsey rarely seems to know where he is going to deliver the football after his pre-snap and post snap reads.  In short, it takes him way too long to deliver the football.

Mhr_logo_medium  Tony Scheffler is still looking strong, and more importantly, healthy.  He appears to be able to run every route and is coming in and out of breaks easily. 

Mhr_logo_medium  The efficiency of the offense in the red zone is a key to this team's success in 2008.  After 3 days of watching practice, the best I can say is it is still a work in progress.  Of course, any play that includes getting the ball to #15 seems to work like a charm.

Mhr_logo_medium  While many think Daniel Graham's main responsibility will be to protect Ryan Clady at LT, I see him being a much larger part of the passing offense.  He looks to be much more comfortable in the offense and he has showed good hands, especially in the red zone.  Graham is still going to be counted on to block, but don't be surprised if he has a breakout season in the reception category as well.

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Daniel Graham(89) loses Jamie Winborn(51) and scores an easy 6

Mhr_logo_medium While working with the 3rd team defense, Jordan Beck looked completely lost on a screen pass to Ryan Torain for an easy TD.

Mhr_logo_medium  After 3 days of watching Elvis Dumervil, there is no doubt in my mind he can be an every down player in 2008.  On one specific play during today's workout, he easily disposed of Erik Pears to blow up a running play in the back-field.  He is going to be a star in this League.

Mhr_logo_medium  Josh Barrett continued to impress.  He is a bit rough around the edges, and playing safety in the NFL can take time, but he definitely has "it".  He's a bit of a throwback as well, making ball carriers pay for coming into his territory.

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Josh Barrett makes Nate Jackson pay

 

Mhr_logo_medium  Jay Cutler has definitely improved when it comes to reading defenses.  His decisions are much quicker and he is doing a much better job stepping into throws instead of throwing off his back foot.  The result is even more velocity and accuracy as well.

Mhr_logo_medium  Kept an eye on WR Darrell Jackson and it is obvious he can still get open.  He'll have an impact.

Mhr_logo_medium  Two "turnover" related plays.  Nate Jackson had a fumble, while the only INT of the day belonged to Patrick Ramsey, who had a pass intended by Lorne Sam picked by Foxworth.

So ended my time in Denver with the Broncos.  I saw a lot, learned even more, and came away impressed by the speed and youth injected into the roster.  Has my opinion changed of what I think this team can be in 2008?  No.  If anything, I feel better about what I thought prior to my trip.  This is a young football team, that became even younger with the departure of John Lynch.  With youth will come growing pains.  There is a lot of talent, of course, and whenever you have youth, speed and talent anything can happen.

 

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Who does Prater think he is,

Rob Bironas?

Good stuff, Guru. I’ve been especially worried about the kicker position, and while as you said, kicking FGs in practice is a lot different than nailing them under the lights with the clock running, good to hear that Prater at least has the raw leg strength + accuracy to get them where they need to go. We may need that with our knack/Shanny’s favorite trick to run out the kicker in the final seconds… Also, Prater, if you’re kicking off, and you’re playing this team from Chicago, there will be a fast guy wearing #23 on the other side of the field. RESIST TEMPTATION TO KICK TO HIM. Good.

Oh, and all the stuff about Patrick Ramsey just makes me think about that video posted here last year (the sarcastic one about how Jay Cutler clearly loses games) which paired Ramsey with the song “Peanut Butter Jelly” and summed him up thusly: “Patrick Ramsey LOL.”

Oh, and can Marshall please stay out of trouble? He’s an electric talent and the Cutler/Marshall connection should be even better this year… if Brandon could just quit doing stupid stuff. Also impressed to hear about Royal’s work ethic—there were some questioning us for using our second selection to choose another WR, and he appears genuinely devoted to the game and to improving at every opportunity. The more weapons we have for Cutler to unleash, the better… He also needs to get the cannon under control and focus on adjusting his pass velocity to the situation, but there is also no doubting his talent and if we could just be more efficient in the red zone, plus find a run defense, this could be a fun year.

Free Casey Weathers!!!!

by Silverblood on Aug 3, 2008 3:59 PM MDT   0 recs

Very good

I dont think Ramsey will be on the team this year. I have never been a fan of his and hope Hackney takes his spot.
I think Marshall is gonna have an awesome year. I think this could be best set of WR’s Denver has ever had. It could be great. I mean you will speed with Royal, Stokley is tough to cover from the slot, #15 is great plus lead the NFL in YAC, plus DJax is a vet and is use to being the #1 (In Sea) so can beat the other teams #2 or #3 corner. I can see this offense being as prolific as NE or Indys.
I also think Graham is gonna have a great season catching the ball. How scary could it be to Denver line up with twin TE’s and WR’s knowing all 4 can catch the ball not to mention having either Torian or SY coming out of the backfield.
I believe that Foxworth will eventually supplant Bly as the #2 CB. I think he is or will be better than bly before long.
Next Saturday the Broncos West play the Broncos South. ITS ABOUT TIME!!!

by broncfanstuckinsd on Aug 3, 2008 4:23 PM MDT   0 recs

Guys...

I think the offense is going to be awesome this year!

There is only One Moment—this moment—the Eternal Moment of Now

by sirsam on Aug 3, 2008 4:28 PM MDT   0 recs

Agreed

And simple TOP will make our defense better as well. ST appear to be a major upgrade also. Great post Guru, thanks. Don’t worry about being slightly tardy. We are just happy to hear from you!

What lies behind us and what lies before us are small matters compared to what lies within us. - Emerson

by firstfan on Aug 3, 2008 4:37 PM MDT to parent up   0 recs

Funny you mention Jarvis Moss

I went to camp last Wednesday and he did very little to impress me. He seemed lazy, very thin even for a DE and lacked any real explosiveness for the speed rusher he was touted to be. In 11 on 11 work he got blocked pretty handily by Ryan Harris on all the plays I saw. I came away much more impressed with Tim Crowder. I hate to say it, but Jarvis Moss just screams 1st round bust. I truly hope I am wrong though. Needless to say, it would be a tremendous luxury if he played at a 1st round level at DE for us,

by RyanBuff on Aug 3, 2008 4:55 PM MDT   0 recs

It's a good thing Elvis is looking like a first-round

I am disappointed about what I hear regarding Moss. Were he not to start because Elvis is so good that he would beat him out, then I would not consider Moss a bust for the first round. That would only mean Elvis is a real find. But his coming in underweight, and people questioning his work ethic, does not bode well for him. Maybe he could be a 3-4 LB somewhere? But maybe it’s too early yet to throw him under the bus, although I hear the engine running.

What I am impressed with is the way some of the key personnel are working their butts off. When you have the talent of Cutler, Selvin, Marshall, Fast Eddie, the TEs, and the OL (except Holland?), coupled with their work ethic, good things are going to happen.

Boy, it’s really good to hear such good things about Harris, too. That RT position is one of the biggest question marks this year, as we all know.

Thanks for your insight, Guru. You really have made MHR a great place to stop.

Never pass up the opportunity to keep your mouth shut. - my daddy

by AZDynamics on Aug 3, 2008 5:07 PM MDT   0 recs

Two big points.

First, the work you’ve done at camp, including the time and money you put into the effort, is very appreciated. Don’t apologize for being a little tardy. Being a dad comes first, and we (like the Broncos) are a classy organization.

Second, I think your report answers a lot of the issues raised in my post about areas of concern. I like the talk about Webster’s speed, Graham’s hands (I expected that to come around), Moss, Aldridge, Prater, Hall and Harris. I feel a lot better about our situation. Now is there anything good you can tell us about the DTs? lol.

"Greater is an army of sheep led by a lion, than an army of lions led by a sheep" Defoe

by hoosierteacher on Aug 3, 2008 5:48 PM MDT   0 recs

Great Post lot's of Info

To anybody that’s been to camp what do you think about the D-Line as a whole regarding stopping the run? I’m not overly concerned about the pass rush but if we can’t stop the run there is no reason to get excited about the season because it will be a long one.

by Premier-Ace55 on Aug 3, 2008 7:22 PM MDT   0 recs

It was hard to tell for sure

but the day I went the run defense did a fairly decent job. I was left really impressed with Marcus Thomas. That guy is extremely strong and forced his way through the offensive line to stop the run in the backfield on a couple plays; and Alvin McKinley certainly looked at least serviceable at DT. Dewayne Robertson and Ebenezar Ekuban didn’t practice the day I went and those two will surely help us out at DT.

Nate Webster, along with DJ Williams were really reading the running plays well and snuffing them out. I think Nate Webster is ahead of Niko for the MLB job right now, but that’s just my opinion.

As far as the D-line goes I’d like to see Dumervile and Crowder starting on the ends with Robertson and Thomas starting at DT. With that lineup I think you’d have the makings of a very solid D-line.

by RyanBuff on Aug 3, 2008 8:10 PM MDT to parent up   0 recs

thanks ryan

i was wondering what was up with marcus thomas i havent heard much of him since camp started

by broncofan91 on Aug 3, 2008 11:25 PM MDT to parent up   0 recs

Interesting about Marcus Thomas

That’s interesting because he is still running with the second team I’m glad he is improving. From what i hear Engleberger is very tough on the run the young DE’s Moss and Crowder really need to step up and I really wish Jarvis could have at least gained ten pounds and been 255. I’m afraid they are going to try and run straight at the DE’s like Elvis and Jarvis and will keep them limited. Good to hear about the backers I would have thought that Koutovides would have been better though.

by Premier-Ace55 on Aug 3, 2008 8:39 PM MDT   0 recs

I stick with my assertion that Eddie Royal will be starting for us by the end of the season!

If God is not a Bronco fan, then WHY are sunsets Blue and Orange? - Jon Tollerud 5/22/08
The Quest ~ TSG 5/19/08

by Zappa on Aug 3, 2008 9:37 PM MDT   0 recs

And BMarsh IS a beast! Hell Ya!

If God is not a Bronco fan, then WHY are sunsets Blue and Orange? - Jon Tollerud 5/22/08
The Quest ~ TSG 5/19/08

by Zappa on Aug 3, 2008 9:38 PM MDT to parent up   0 recs

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