The New Roster
by Doc Bear on Aug 30, 2008 5:03 PM MDT
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PrintI thought that I'd open a thread fo rthose of us who are gluttons :)
Current Roster QB – Cutler, Ramsey
RB – S Young, Pittman, Hillis, A Hall, Torain, Alridge (IR)
WR – Marshall, Stokely, Colbert, Royal, D Jackson, Shepherd(IR)
TE – Scheffler, Graham, N Jackson,
OL – R Harris, Clady, Kuper, Hamilton, Nalen, Wiegmann, Lichtensteiger Polumbus, Pears
DE – J Moss, Engelberger, Ekuban, Dumervil, Crowder
DT – D Robertson, Thomas, McKinley, K Peterson, Clemons, C Powell (PUP)
LB – DJ, Boss, Niko, Winborn, Larsen, Webster, Woodyard, L Green
CB – Champ, Bly, Foxworth, Paymah, J Williams
S – Manuel, McCree, Abdullah, R Rogers
ST – Leach, Prater, Kern
I never thought that we'd solve the problem of too much depth at LB by keeping nearly everyone. 8 LB's seems to be a new things - anyone? Also, 9 OL is great - we have a lot of depth there now, in case Nails goes down.
To be honest, my only real surprise/disappointment was not keeping Barrett and losing Alridge to injury. Next year, little buddy. Here's to a great year!
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In what way?
I think that while EE was serviceable he wasn’t really a game changer. I think that keeping Woodyard was a much better move.
To have striven, to have made the effort, to have been true to certain ideals - this alone is worth the struggle. - William Penn
Tom Arnold, of Fox Sports Net's Best Damn Sports Show Period, said this about Warren Sapp: "Hey, Warren, the Raiders signed you to a seven-year deal. I guess Bill Callahan was right --- they are the dumbest team in America."
by Philistine21 on Aug 30, 2008 5:43 PM MDT up reply actions
I love the Woodyard keep--special teams now--starting 'next Tom Jackson' later.
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I'm a little sad Martinez got cut--but he just didn't do anything 'standout' against the Cards.
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Spare part status is realistic. If Denver doesn't pick him up again, then some other team
probably will. At some point, he has to translate his speed and toughness to production. I still have hopes for him to become a NFL WR.
by Arctic Bronco on Aug 30, 2008 7:42 PM MDT up reply actions
I agree, Glen has a real heart for the game--someone will pick him up.
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What value will Ekuban provide in the next 2 or 3 years?
I still believe that the Run-D needs to be built up for a deep playoff run in the next 2-3 years. I will be surprised if Ekuban, Peterson and Mckinley will be making contributions then. The D-Line needs fresh legs.
by Arctic Bronco on Aug 30, 2008 6:03 PM MDT up reply actions
Dre Moore?
How about Dre? He got waived by TB. I thought he looked good coming into the draft, but he showed up overweight to Buc’s camp and got on Gruden’s bad side. Easy steal of a fourth round pick, but don’t know if he fits Broncs scheme.
Agreed!
But, we have to get through this year to get to next year, so we go with what we’ve got. Dre Moore must really be lazy/unmotivated to have not made a squad after the way he sometimes showed up in college! Any other GOOD role playing DTs out there?
Larry Tripplet?
fmr Bills DT released by SEA?
"I could never quite get the hang of Thursdays..."
by FlaBroncoFan on Aug 30, 2008 6:38 PM MDT up reply actions
DTs
We’re obviously a little old on the DL — EE & McKinley, etc. — but we’re mostly looking at likewise aged replacements or “never has-beens” so I prefer to look ahead (and I haven’t forgotten about Powell).
I think we’re 2 good drafts away from having a very good team. We still need some superstars in the mix on defense. Here’s a couple sites on the next two crops. And I can imagine a beautiful draft that goes: #1-LB, #2-S, #3-DT, #4-DT, etc.
8 of of our DL are young.
so I think we are building for the future. And the nice thing about young players is that you never know who might raise their game, and exceed other’s expectations.
by The Gun Young on Aug 30, 2008 7:19 PM MDT up reply actions
Dre Moore
What? Dre Moore got cut? Him and Barrett are 2 suprise rookie cuts. I can’t believe it. Spencer Larsen survived the final cut, and Barrett didn’t. If you would have told me that right after the draft, I would have been shocked. We better get Barrett on the practice squad quick.
different trajectories
Both were intriguing talents for different reasons and both had rapid changes in status.
Barrett clearly excelled early on but took a nosedive over the last 3 games. I think he, most of all, needs time to develop. And he pretty much said so himself in a snippet of an interview. Sounds like he really needs more time to gain his bearings, it’s clearly not about physical ability but mental progress.
Larsen’s early progress was stalled with his two trips back to Arizona but he came on strong at the end of pre-season, rather than tailing off like Barrett.
I’m not going to go out on a limb on Larsen yet because the last cut is still coming, but I was impressed watching him play last night while I concluded Barrett was a cut. I could be accused (unfairly) of being fickle but my only loyalty is to performance. Larsen performed last night, Barrett didn’t. Larsen just looks a lot more NFL-ready.
I just hope we can "hide" Barrett
i desperately want him to be our new Steve Atwater
I wish Woody Paige was our coach!
next year's crop
What’s remarkable about next year’s draft crop is the number of spectacular athletes playing Safety — Taylor Mays – USC, William Moore – Missouri, Kam Chancellor – VT, etc. Whatever happens with Barrett — and I certainly wish him well — there is a reasonably good chance that we’ll be picking a big, fast Safety anyways.
I don’t think the coaching staff made a mistake, I think he needs to develop his skills before he’s able to play his position proficiently. Let’s just hope he makes it on to the PS. My guess is he needs to work on his play recognition skills. My understanding (taken in part from HT’s posts) is that Safety is a position that requires ‘mental processing’ more than physical talent. Barrett needs more time to learn the position. He commented on this recently, saying something to the effect of being disoriented, or something like that.
You're right Ski.
Safety is the “smartest” position on defense (MLB is a close second).
"Greater is an army of sheep led by a lion, than an army of lions led by a sheep" Defoe
by Steve Nichols on Aug 31, 2008 6:06 PM MDT up reply actions
different kinds of intelligence
Not to disagree — by any means — but there really is (IMO) game smarts and book smarts. Players like Myron Rolle (FSU Safety, and possible Rhodes scholar) have both. It’s not a knock on Barrett’s intelligence, which is high considering he already a grad student, but a comment on his ability in a ‘game smart’ sense.
John Lynch is another good example of having both kinds of smarts.
I'm refering to "game smarts".
IQ is certainly a factor in how much and far far one can go with “football smarts”, but hard work, study, and experience can overcomemuch of the gap.
If we get very technical, I think there is “IQ” (having to do with the ability to learn and calculate), and “knowledge” (the data that one has). In my opinion, the most crucial position (on the defense) for “football knowledge” is the safeties (the FS in particular).
I don’t think we are in disagreement at all, if I’m reading you right.
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by Steve Nichols on Sep 1, 2008 12:49 PM MDT up reply actions
Football Knowlege correlates with experience.
I agree with Ski and HT. Barrett has the intelligence. He just needs more experience to get his NFL football knowledge to the level needed for the Broncos.
I mentioned in another blog about safeties that Denver prefers experience, or game knowledge, over youth and talent. Cause I agree with HT that the safety position requires more mental than any other defensive position. This is the reason oldies like Lynch and Harrison held on so long- play recognition and tackling ability.
by The Gun Young on Sep 1, 2008 4:04 PM MDT up reply actions
I read somewhere
that Barrett has stiff hips. He’s great straight ahead but doesn’t have good change of direction skill.
"In the empty spaces - lacunae, vacuums, pauses, voids, black holes - new things begin. We are born anew from the unexplored space, the badlands, the outlaw territory." - Sam Keen
remember
Shanny is trying to groom Larsen into a fullback (to backup Hillis since we cut Sapp) so maybe that is why we kept Larsen- he bacame more valuable to the team
by okiebroncosfan on Aug 30, 2008 8:00 PM MDT up reply actions
I know it's not sexy to talk about
but THE biggest reason I’m excited about this season is that our SPECIAL TEAM will be DRAMATICALLY IMPROVED. Kern, Prater, young guns blazing down hill on specials. Call me a football nerd, but solid specials makes the difference between good and playoff contender.
I wish Woody Paige was our coach!
by bcfunk on Aug 30, 2008 7:26 PM MDT reply actions 8 recs
Does Wooyard play specials????
b/c if he does i think he’ll contribute on a weekly basis….
I wish Woody Paige was our coach!
My bet is he does
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bcfunk this is an MHR learning thing. Click 'action' and then 'rec on all of Pappi's comments. We want them to turn green.
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by Mike Clark on Aug 30, 2008 10:12 PM MDT up reply actions 1 recs
no one HERE
will call you a football nerd!!
"I could never quite get the hang of Thursdays..."
by FlaBroncoFan on Aug 30, 2008 7:28 PM MDT up reply actions
I think in this place we are all hope for great special teams this year nerds.
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FlaBronc... this is an MHR learning thing. Click 'action' and then 'rec on all of Pappi's comments. We want them to turn green.
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by Mike Clark on Aug 30, 2008 10:11 PM MDT up reply actions 1 recs
I wrote about this a couple weeks before the draft
The Broncos didn’t draft the guys I suggested, but they followed a similar thinking, and I believe that our special teams are going to be much, much improved. You’re no football nerd BC, you’re thinking smart
"I wouldn't ever set out to hurt anyone deliberately unless it was, you know, important --like a league game or something." DICK BUTKUS
by Ted Bartlett on Aug 30, 2008 7:38 PM MDT up reply actions 1 recs
it creates awful two prong evil toad spirits
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truer than you know
if I remember right, a comment that gets enough recs turns green…
Mountains, forest, sea: these render man fierce, but yet do not destroy the man.
by Jeremy Bolander on Aug 30, 2008 9:12 PM MDT up reply actions
lol haven't been here long enough to see it.
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Let's try it!
Everyone recommend my comments and see if they turn green!
Or just recommend the one that already got recommended so it will go faster. But still recommend mine anyway. Or don’t. But please do.
by papigrande on Aug 30, 2008 9:50 PM MDT up reply actions 7 recs
lol
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I am willing but I don't see where to rec.
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Click "actions" and then "recommend"
Realmente no sé poner este, pero... Soy amable de un trato grande. La gente me conoce. Tengo muchos libros encuadernados en cuero y mis olores de apartamento de la caoba rica.
by papigrande on Aug 30, 2008 10:00 PM MDT up reply actions 3 recs
ok there you go!!
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by Mike Clark on Aug 30, 2008 10:00 PM MDT up reply actions 1 recs
Yay!!
But they’re not green yet!
Realmente no sé poner este, pero... Soy amable de un trato grande. La gente me conoce. Tengo muchos libros encuadernados en cuero y mis olores de apartamento de la caoba rica.
papi--I'm trying to get some recuits---we'll see.
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papi.......I did my best--we'll see if any green comes about.
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w00t!!!!
It turned green!! And I got 7 recs.. you guys are so nice :)
9/8/08 - Denver Broncos vs. The Evil Dark Emperor Al Davis in the pit of black bile at Oakland Stadium.
Now, what happens when you flag comments?
9/8/08 - Denver Broncos vs. The Evil Dark Emperor Al Davis in the pit of black bile at Oakland Stadium.
Guru is able to see if there are offensive comments...
…so that they can be responded to quickly.
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by Steve Nichols on Aug 31, 2008 6:15 PM MDT up reply actions
So they don't turn red?
9/8/08 - Denver Broncos vs. The Evil Dark Emperor Al Davis in the pit of black bile at Oakland Stadium.
No,
but depending on how much they piss the Guru off, HE may turn red. I bet it’s not a good time to be around him if someone screws with our site. : )
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by Steve Nichols on Aug 31, 2008 6:24 PM MDT up reply actions
styg, papi wants to see one of his comments turn green--I would like to see this also.
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Bear just do it---reality hits me next week--and this is just for fun.
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by Mike Clark on Aug 30, 2008 10:13 PM MDT up reply actions 1 recs
I did my part
now we wait.
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by Jeremy Bolander on Aug 31, 2008 2:34 AM MDT up reply actions 1 recs
woop
looks like it only takes 5.
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by Jeremy Bolander on Aug 31, 2008 2:35 AM MDT up reply actions 1 recs
For some reason the link didn't come thru before
Here is the link
"I wouldn't ever set out to hurt anyone deliberately unless it was, you know, important --like a league game or something." DICK BUTKUS
Good article
You got the tackle WR 2nd round, returner by the 4th all right. And ST are huge
Atwater for the Hall!
Bear this is an MHR learning thing. Click 'action' and then 'rec on all of Pappi's comments. We want them to turn green.
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Ted, this is an MHR learning thing. Click 'action' and then 'rec on all of Pappi's comments. We want them to turn green.
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Former Broncos: Kevin Kasper on Cleveland IR, Montae Reagor cut, Samie Parker cut
Curome Cox cut. I wonder how much patience Detroit will have with George Foster and Tatum Bell?
We will take a look at these 2 Eagles!!!
I think Denver might take a look at Jerome McDougle DE who had a GREAT pre season after being on IR last year. He almost made Philly’s squad. He was a first round pick in 03, has had horrid luck, but he is the type of player Shanny likes. He has speed and power and would be a good acquisition to our pass rush.
I think, now that AA is done for the year, that we make a inquiry on Ryan Moats. A very solid RB but ELECTRIFYING returner…think Darren Sproles mold.
Werd!
by boydy2669 on Aug 30, 2008 8:24 PM MDT reply actions 1 recs
must get to bed.........nite
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by Mike Clark on Aug 30, 2008 10:38 PM MDT reply actions 1 recs
John Lynch
released by NE. Perhaps now I can keep wearing my jersey with pride. I still respect him and everything he brought to our defense, but I was going to have a problem wearing a jersey of a player on the Patriots roster.
"I could never quite get the hang of Thursdays..."
by FlaBroncoFan on Aug 31, 2008 1:58 PM MDT reply actions 1 recs
Kind of sad.
Maybe this will make it sink in.
"Greater is an army of sheep led by a lion, than an army of lions led by a sheep" Defoe
by Steve Nichols on Aug 31, 2008 6:17 PM MDT up reply actions
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