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Questions from another continent! II

 

As promised I return with more questions. This might turn out to be a bit debative, but we’ll see.

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Is this the reason for cutting Hackney?

As I went to bed (far too late) yesterday I came to think of a scenario: Maybe Denver cut Hackney because they haven’t figured out who they like the best. Hackney is more likely to clear waivers and sign to PS, than former-first-rounder-Patrick Ramsey. Inbuilt in this question, is obviously: Is Hackney even PS eligible. Also: would it help the least bit to have more in-season-training samples of the two QB’s in question? I mean if you don’t know after camp, you will never know.

 

Will a Rudi Johnson signing be worthwhile?

He had a horrible year last year, granted. But in 2004 through 6 he eclipsed 1300 (1454, 1458, 1309) yards and 12 touchdowns (12, 12, 12). His yards per carry was respectively 4.0, 4.3 and 3.8. That’s his biggest knock, but think about what he can do in Denvers notoriously phenomenal blocking scheme! I should add that he is not much of a recieving threat. The questions remain: Is this a good idea? Has he “one-cut”-ability? Will he take a paycut? Will he turn down starting guarantees from the Bears, Lions – in turn for great YPC numbers behind the stout O-line of Denver?

 

Something to worry about!

Denver got absolutely K-I-L-L-E-D by TE’s last year – the Dallas-Clarke show that was week 4 was horrifying! Footballoutsiders.com has an advanced metric for measuring this (DVOA – Defence-adjusted Value Over Average), and den got a value of 44.7% (0 being average and negative above average). This was 17 percentage points WORSE than the second worse team KC. I know we are in a tough division TE-wise, but still. Next are Giants, Rams and Falcons in the low twenties. Will this improve in 2008?! Maybe as long as Boss is on the field, but he is a durability concern.

 

That was all this time, folks - but I'll probably be back..

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Claus--I think you are exactly right concerning Hackney...

as far as the other questions I’ll sit back and read experts like HT, styg and zappa’s answers. Then I’ll know the answers.

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by Mike Clark on Aug 31, 2008 7:31 AM MDT   0 recs

I like that approach.

Really showing some copy-cat savvy there :D

Remember: New England won 18 last year; Oakland's won 19 in a half-decade
/The great Dane - formerly known as Claaaaas!

by Claus Vestergaard on Aug 31, 2008 7:33 AM MDT to parent up   0 recs

Here are some thoughts.

I didn’t like the hacney cut either, but Styg made an excellent observation:

Risk management

Perhaps the best way to think about Ramsey is as the most neutral option we have at backup QB. There is literally no upside with him in, and if he cut down on the INTs (which he could I think. They aren’t like the INTs that Plummer used to throw, though he has ben tempting double coverage for a number of them, and not reading the safeties) then there wouldn’t be an downside to speak of.

He is a boring, unathletic, noodlearmed veteran backup who can probably recite Shanny’s playbook back to him, and I think that is what Shanny really wants. The only thing I know of that translated from preseason to practice was the weakarmed, lack of athleticism. Otherwise he looks ok, just not to guys who watch football to see the BEST players in the world. Hackney looked good last night, but running a very limited form of the offense. His previous preseason reps were practically cookie-cutter. Is Hackney a playmaker? Absolutely. But for all of Shanny’s high risk decisions, I think he is a low-risk person by nature, but willing to make the tough choice when his back is against a wall. You don’t focus the WCO so heavily on running game production by accident, whichc is a very conservative philosophy. 8 in the box is also very conservative.

When it comes to winning games with Cutler out, Shanny is saying that he won’t gameplan around his QB. He wants a guy who won’t get penalties lining people up wrong, won’t forget the play in the huddle, and will be able to run anything Shanny calls. The question mark right now is Ramsey’s INTs, which probably will force Shanny to limit his playbook somewhat. I’m sure Shanny is looking for an upgrade in this area.

Bottom line is that Hackney may have a "winning edge" over Ramsey, but it isn’t enough of a winning edge to be a go to guy in the NFL yet. It might work once, but Shanny has to plan on how to win multiple games not just a couple. I know we all think we are screwed if Cutler goes down, but Shanny doesn’t have the luxury of accepting that as fact. He has to put an opton out that gives him something to work with for multiple games. He doesn’t want his backup QB to be a "winner" as much as he wants him to stay out of the way of the other 44 guys he has in his gameplan. THAT is risk management.

As far as I am concerned, we should not go after Rudi Johnson. Our system (beyond just football Xs and Os) seems dependent on saving money at RB (thanks to our running schemes), so we can spend elsewhere. There’s no need to pay for talent when we can exceed 1000 yards pre year (per HB). In fact, we can then turn around and trade runners for draft picks or other players (Champ Bailey being the prime example). I’m not knocking Rudi. It’s just that we can have success with many RBs, but we have other positions that deserve more attention if we are going after FAs or trades. Just my opinion.

I share your concern with TEs. Gates and Gonzales are slowing down, but they are still threats, as are the TEs we will meet from other teams. There are two common ways to stop a TE who can go out and catch:

1) Use a SAM LB, or
2) Use a SS.

In the MNF game against Oakland, it would be worth your time to watch how Denver covers the opposition TE. We have new guys at both SS and SAM, so we’ll find out pretty quick how we look.

(BTW, I don’t expect oak to let their TE loose very much. I expect he will stay in to run block for their RB corps, and stay back to protect JM to buy him time for the verticle passes. Still, it will be worth watching to see how many times, if any, we get burned by a TE, especially in the redzone).

Great questions! I hope Styg and I had some good thoughts! (Styg’s answer was actually a coment to me, and I bought into his reasoning).

"Greater is an army of sheep led by a lion, than an army of lions led by a sheep" Defoe

by hoosierteacher on Aug 31, 2008 1:44 PM MDT to parent up   0 recs

I ask a question, and you guys deliver!

Nice… I see where you are going with Hackney, and actually i like it. I’m a lot more confident of the situation now.

I still think Rudi Johnson is still a good idea, but of course it has to be for the right price.

Remember: New England won 18 last year; Oakland's won 19 in a half-decade
/The great Dane - formerly known as Claaaaas!

by Claus Vestergaard on Aug 31, 2008 3:24 PM MDT to parent up   0 recs

Claus--I have a question for you...

How did you become a football fan?

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by Mike Clark on Aug 31, 2008 8:49 AM MDT   0 recs

I think I'm gonna write a post about it sometime...

Remember: New England won 18 last year; Oakland's won 19 in a half-decade
/The great Dane - formerly known as Claaaaas!

by Claus Vestergaard on Aug 31, 2008 11:50 AM MDT to parent up   0 recs

Thanks---I kinda figured that would be your answer.

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Broncos broncos everywhere think moldy faiders stink!

by Mike Clark on Aug 31, 2008 12:09 PM MDT to parent up   0 recs

Rudi is washed-up

They ran him till the wheels fell off. They would have given him away for next to nothing the last couple weeks, and found no takers. When you’d rather rely on Chris Perry and Kenny Watson, that tells the whole story, right there.

"I wouldn't ever set out to hurt anyone deliberately unless it was, you know, important --like a league game or something." DICK BUTKUS

by TedBartlett905 on Aug 31, 2008 9:08 AM MDT   0 recs

The Bengals

Have had excellent pass protection recently if I remember correctly, and the halfback plays a big part in that in most pass-oriented offenses like the Bengals run.

"I could never quite get the hang of Thursdays..."

by FlaBroncoFan on Aug 31, 2008 2:01 PM MDT to parent up   0 recs

I agree Rudi is past his prime and if we aren't going to look at Shawn Alexander then no way we sign Rudi Johnson

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"They taste like burning." Ralph Wigam
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by Broncoman on Aug 31, 2008 3:57 PM MDT to parent up   0 recs

This is Hackney's last year of eligibility.

It is far too late for Ramsey to be on the PS, but Hackney can still sit there one more year for us.

"I could never quite get the hang of Thursdays..."

by FlaBroncoFan on Aug 31, 2008 9:17 AM MDT   0 recs

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