Seeing the world through blue-and-orange colored glasses
I think there are a lot of reasons to be excited about the Broncos future, both near-term and long-term. Following are a starting 11 of them, to provide some positive thinking in the wake of the Marshall suspension.
1. We have the best young QB in the NFL, and even Broncos haters in the MSM have to grudgingly admit that he’s the real deal.
2. Suspended or not, Brandon Marshall is about to assert himself as the best WR in all of the NFL. Veterans like Darrell Jackson, Keary Colbert, and Brandon Stokley make this a deep and talented group, potentially the best we’ve ever had.
3. We have a lot of talent at RB, if not a clear starter. Selvin Young, Ryan Torain, Andre Hall, Anthony Alridge, Michael Pittman, Cecil Sapp, and Peyton Hillis are a very nice group, and bring a lot of diverse talents to the table.
4. Ryan Clady, by all accounts, has been tremendous from Day 1, and has even exceeded Mike Shanahan’s expectations. Even when he makes an increasingly rare mistake, his natural ability has allowed him to recover. Along with guys like Ryan Harris and Chris Kuper, there’s a lot of reason to feel good about our young O-line going forward.
5. We flat-out stole Dewayne Robertson from the Jets. He has only been a disappointment in the context of his draft slot. He has been active, durable, and effective throughout his career, even while trying to play NT, despite being a natural 3-technique. This situation is analogous to the acquisition of Gerard Warren a few years ago, but Robertson is a much higher-motor guy than Big Money was.
6. On the subject of DTs, Marcus Thomas is the best athlete in the NFL at that position, and one of the 5-10 best at any position. Men who weigh 320 pounds aren’t supposed to be able to do standing backflips. Expect Marcus to start to dominate this year, owing to a year of experience, and improved conditioning.
7. It took 25 years, but it appears we found a dynamic return man in Eddie Royal. The only thing that can prevent him from being special in the return game is reluctance by the coaches to use him there, because they want to save him for duty on offense.
8. Elvis Dumervil is a top-5 pass rusher in the NFL, and Jarvis Moss can eventually be one too, once he figures out how to apply his explosive talent. Tim Crowder is a nice 3-down DE, who can also get after a QB better than most left-side guys. John Engelberger and Ebenezer Ekuban are solid veterans.
9. DJ Williams is back on the weakside, and can flow to the ball and make plays. He had trouble taking on blocks at MLB, and will be able to stay much cleaner outside.
10. Our situation at CB is outstanding. Champ Bailey is the best in the NFL, Dre Bly is still very good himself, and Domonique Foxworth has had a great camp. Karl Paymah really improved last season, and proved he can play, and Jack Williams has been good in camp as well. That’s a terrific 5.
11. At safety, we have promising up-and-comers like Hamza Abdullah and Josh Barrett to mix with solid veterans like Marlon McCree and Marquand Manuel.
Anybody got any other good reasons to feel good? Let's channel our inner Norman Peales, and remember The Power of Positive Thinking.
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Our biggest problem
will be having to pay all these guys when they are superstars and we’ve won a few Superbowls!!!
Owning the Patriots since September 9, 1960
by Darin H on Aug 6, 2008 10:20 AM MDT reply actions 0 recs
The Chemistry seems to be molding at a great pace
Perhaps, best chemistry in a couple years.
"I am he, as you are he, as you are me, and we are all together." - The Beatles
by Denver_Native on Aug 6, 2008 10:43 AM MDT reply actions 0 recs
Our TE's
I believe we will have a top 5 TE unit this year.
"I am he, as you are he, as you are me, and we are all together." - The Beatles
by Denver_Native on Aug 6, 2008 10:45 AM MDT reply actions 0 recs
gotta stay positive
love the attitude Ted, lets not dwell on how the BMarsh debacle has been handled, lets be happy we have a powerful young team that is heading in the right direction.
and the sing along songs will be our scriptures - we gotta stay positive!
by Orange & Blue Badger on Aug 6, 2008 11:03 AM MDT reply actions 0 recs
I am jacked
As far as #15, its resolved. We all know what he is gonna get, plus he has the best mentor anyone could want, Rod Smith.
I think this offense is gonna score lots of points. I could see around 450 points this year. The running game will be top 5.
My most optomistic as well as my biggest concern is the DT position, but I feel great. How big is the M. Thomas steal gonna be in a few years. First round talent stolen in the 4th
by broncfanstuckinsd on Aug 6, 2008 11:47 AM MDT reply actions 0 recs
Well! The fact that we are going 13-3,
winning all our playoff games, and the game after the playoffs has me all excited!
by Mike Clark on Aug 6, 2008 12:28 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
So...
There is only One Moment—this moment—the Eternal Moment of Now
by sirsam on Aug 6, 2008 1:05 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
So...
...where are you guys going to be watching the preseason at? I will be at a bar, which better have the game on or I’ll be pissed.
There is only One Moment—this moment—the Eternal Moment of Now
by sirsam on Aug 6, 2008 1:06 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
at home
courtesy of delayed broadcast on NFL Network, thankfully, since I wouldn’t have any other way of watching it.
Owning the Patriots since September 9, 1960
by Darin H on Aug 6, 2008 1:43 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Me too...
Unfortunately, it doesn’t come on until midnight sometime next week (thank god for tivo).
Being between LA and San Francisco, I get the delight of seeing faders/niners and chargers/cryboys live. It will be interesting to see what the faders and chargers have to offer this year (based on HT’s “How to watch preseason games”).
"It's all over Fat Man"
- Tom Jackson to John Madden 1977 AFC Championship Game
by DesertBroncoFan on Aug 6, 2008 3:22 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm not sure
I’m gonna try to catch it on the internet. I don’t know any Broncos fans here in SD yet to watch it with. Oh wait, isn’t there a guy around here with a pretty avatar?
by unkown on Aug 6, 2008 5:40 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't think so
but broncfanstuckinsd cracks a good one from time to time.
What lies behind us and what lies before us are small matters compared to what lies within us. - Emerson
by firstfan on Aug 6, 2008 5:51 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
I am here in San Doggy
But I dont know if there is any Bronco bars.
by broncfanstuckinsd on Aug 6, 2008 6:23 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
I found one down in Mission Beach
Guava Beach Bar & Grill (http://guava-beach.com/sports_broncos.html) It’s not strictly Broncos, but might do the trick. I’m not much of a bar guy, but I might have to check it out at the beginning of the season to see if it fits the bill.
by unkown on Aug 6, 2008 10:45 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
I remember going to Trophy's in PB
a long time ago to watch a CU/Nebraska (the N is for knowledge) with my roommate (a member of Californians for Nebraska) and it was crazy. Every no gain or positive play brought a huge cheer from the husker fans but in the end the Buffs won (there was one other guy in there other than me cheering for the Buffs). It was near Mission Bay Dr and Garnett (of course it’s probably changed names by now).
"It's all over Fat Man"
- Tom Jackson to John Madden 1977 AFC Championship Game
by DesertBroncoFan on Aug 7, 2008 11:18 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
But Guava sounds much better!
"It's all over Fat Man"
- Tom Jackson to John Madden 1977 AFC Championship Game
by DesertBroncoFan on Aug 7, 2008 11:20 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Trophys is still around
I dont like going there becuz its too expensive, did the waitesses write on the paper on the tables then?
My favorite Cu/nu game was either last years 65-51 game or the 62-36 destruction in 2001. I have a cousin-in-law who is a NU fan. Funny thing is, he was to stoopid to get into that college. man, thats dumb
by broncfanstuckinsd on Aug 8, 2008 11:45 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
I always get stuck
with the lame a$$ charger games.
by broncfanstuckinsd on Aug 6, 2008 5:51 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
I've got Sunday Ticket
if you want to make the 4 hour drive!
"It's all over Fat Man"
- Tom Jackson to John Madden 1977 AFC Championship Game
by DesertBroncoFan on Aug 7, 2008 11:20 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
NFL Network Schedule
Sunday August 10 vs. Houston 10 PM ET (Delayed)
Saturday August 16 vs. Dallas 9 PM ET (Live)
Friday August 22 vs. Green Bay 12 AM ET (Delayed) (Midnight Saturday Morning)
Friday August 29 vs. Arizona 10 PM ET (Live)
2 Live games isn’t too bad, in my opinion. I’ll be anxious to evaluate how we look, especially in the Dallas game. Last year’s preseason game with them was a harbinger of bad times ahead, because they ran the ball all over us. Hopefully, we fare a lot better this year.
"I wouldn't ever set out to hurt anyone deliberately unless it was, you know, important --like a league game or something." DICK BUTKUS
by Ted Bartlett on Aug 6, 2008 7:14 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
Thanks for putting this up
we need to get it on the frontpage sidebar.
Mountains, forest, sea: these render man fierce, but yet do not destroy the man.
by Jeremy Bolander on Aug 7, 2008 1:33 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
So much to be excited about
that it is easy to miss a couple of things. You almost mentioned everything, except our awesome TEs (best 3 in the business), the upgrade that Boss Bailey provides (especially in coverage on TEs), and of course the fact that we have the best coach and fans in the game. This could be a very exciting and fun season.
By the way, I was getting tired of seeing all the blogs about “concerns,” so it was nice to see someone focusing on the glass half full, or in our opinion overflowing. I mean I think the pre-season should be an exciting time for fans, because you can be totally optimistic, cause history has proven that anything can happen any given year. This is a year that the Broncos shock the MSM (whatever that means).
by The Gun Young on Aug 8, 2008 12:21 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
it means main stream media
All Ready
~D Will
by Best In The West on Aug 8, 2008 1:02 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
I understand homerism, but c'mon.
“Brandon Marshall is about to assert himself as the best WR in all of the NFL”
No. Not even close, really. Marshall is good, but this is ridiculous.
Yay, sports.
by MDC on Aug 11, 2008 7:57 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
sit back and watch
If I remember correctly nobody on the Texans stopped him last year.
by broncfanstuckinsd on Aug 11, 2008 8:01 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
Which is why the Broncos won that game, right?
Oh…nevermind.
Yay, sports.
by MDC on Aug 11, 2008 8:09 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
doesnt
change the fact. Spin all you like. He had 10 receptions in that game
by broncfanstuckinsd on Aug 11, 2008 8:37 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Fantastic
Now show me how eleven (not 10) receptions with no TDs against an awful secondary suggests that he is on the verge of becoming “the best WR in all of the NFL.”
Yay, sports.
by MDC on Aug 11, 2008 10:22 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Your opinion is noted
but I think you’re wrong. Read this quote from the Sporting News NFL preview, as said by an opposing scout.
Height, weight, speed, strength – he’s an imposing figure. He can catch the ball, break tackles, and run after the catch. He represents a problem. He’s as good as Andre Johnson, who’s a Pro Bowl player in Houston. He’s as good as he wants to be, as far as on the field, with no limitations as far as what he can do. He’s the complete package. He’s Terrell Owens without the hype, the popcorn, and the Sharpies and all that. To try and slow him down, I think the best thing to do is get up in his face and hit him before he starts running. But we respect him. When I was talking to my players before before we played them, I told them he’s the next Superstar-in-waiting.
MDC, I’m not really worried about him going 11 catches without a touchdown, I’m more focused on the fact that he was out catching 100 passes as a second-year player who is still learning the game. You can have your opinion, but I think you’re full of hot gas. The only receivers in the NFL with comparable natural ability are Moss and TO, and they’re both getting up in years. This is Brandon’s year to assert himself as the best.
"I wouldn't ever set out to hurt anyone deliberately unless it was, you know, important --like a league game or something." DICK BUTKUS
by Ted Bartlett on Aug 12, 2008 6:13 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wait...what?
“The only receivers in the NFL with comparable natural ability are Moss and TO”
First off, even the article you quoted lumps Andre Johnson into that group. And that’s not even considering Larry Fitzgerald and Calvin Johnson, both of whom have ridiculous natural ability. Anquan Boldin had over 100 grabs in his FIRST and third years (was injured in his second) and he is similar in size (slightly smaller) than Marshall. Boldin is also a much better downfield blocker than Marshall.
In short, your entire premise is flawed.
Yay, sports.
by MDC on Aug 12, 2008 9:21 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Again, disagreed
None of the receivers you mentioned possess the run-after-catch ability of Marshall. No receiver in the NFL does, and the statistics already bear that out in his second year. The guys you mentioned are all good players, but have lower ceilings than Marshall. There’s a fluidity and shiftiness that Marshall has that none of these other guys remotely has. It hasn’t been seen in the NFL since Barry Sanders, and Marshall is a 6-4, 230 pound, extremely physical guy, with tremendous run strength, to go with it.
Andre Johnson and Calvin Johnson are both very big, and very straightline fast, but not nearly as fluid. Fitzgerald is a better player than an athlete, as I see it. He runs terrific routes and adjusts to balls in the air exceptionally well, but he doesn’t blow you away with speed, quickness, or leaping ability. He’s like Carlos Boozer to Marshall’s Dwight Howard. Boldin is actually my favorite of that bunch, but he’s an overachiever, who is at his ceiling right now.
We’re not concerned with the past here, to be very clear. My original statement was that Marshall is about to assert himself as the best WR in the entire NFL, and I stand by that statement. That’s a prediction, not a commentary on the past. The vast majority of people who know anything about football would say that my prediction is much closer to reasonable than your out-of-hand dismissal of it is.
"I wouldn't ever set out to hurt anyone deliberately unless it was, you know, important --like a league game or something." DICK BUTKUS
by Ted Bartlett on Aug 12, 2008 9:52 AM MDT reply actions 0 recs
OK...
this is a pointless discussion if you are going to (a) rely on stuff like “people who know anything football” and “shiftiness” as markers of some sort. If so many “people who know anything about football” agree that Marshall is on the verge of being the best in the game, I assume you’ll have no problem pointing me to more than just one blurb from a scout.
Your analysis of Calvin Johnson is ridiculous. As is your insinuation that Brandon Marshall and Barry Sanders should be mentioned in the same sentence as far as elusiveness.
Rather than rely on sophistry and unsupportable hyperbole, how about some numbers? We’ll compare Marshall to Andre Johnson, since he was mentioned in the article you quoted.
According to Football Outsiders:
Marshall led the league in dropped passes, with 15. No one else had more than 12.
Marshall’s DVOA (Defense-adjusted value over average) was -1.3, which was 55TH among WRs. Andre Johnson’s was 29.9, which was 3rd.
Marshall’s DYAR (Defense-adjusted yards above replacement) was 152, which was 28th among all qualifying receivers. Andre Johnson’s was 288, which was 9th.
In short, your original premise was flawed. Your claim of size/speed/strength is dubious at best. And NONE of the unbiased, context-dependent numbers suggest that he is on the verge of greatness. Could he still get there? Sure. But you might want to wait until he is in the top half of qualifying receivers before you start penciling him in for greatness.
Here is where you offer some rebuttal about how the old numbers don’t matter because “people who know things” all agree that you are right. But you don’t have to find those people. Instead, I should find people who don’t say it. Because asking someone to prove a negative is a top-notch argument technique.
Yay, sports.
by MDC on Aug 14, 2008 7:06 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm a professional stats guy
but I don’t understand these stats yet. I’ll post something when I get my head around them.
"I wouldn't ever set out to hurt anyone deliberately unless it was, you know, important --like a league game or something." DICK BUTKUS
by Ted Bartlett on Aug 14, 2008 9:41 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
Fair enough.
Sorry if the end of my last post came of as a$$holish. I didn’t mean it that way.
(Also, note: I don’t claim that FO is the end-all, be-all, but they are pretty good when it comes to relative value of “skill” positions. They break down a bit when it comes to defensive guys. But there are still small flaws, regardless.)
Yay, sports.
by MDC on Aug 14, 2008 9:51 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

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