I think that the key was watching Jack Williams grow into the pro game faster than anyone expected. Fopxy, although I like him, didn’t have a great preseason – partially, as HT points out, due to their scheming, but there were weaknesses in his game as well. Williams is a ball hawk with a feasrless attitude. How he will due against the next level of receiver I don’t know, but I think that the coaches feel good about it.

I wish Foxworth well in his career, and I’ll root for him anytime he doesn’t play the Broncs.

That leaves us with just four corners. Foxworth was also a back up safety. Broncos better be getting something good for him. I was expecting a trade or two, but not this.

A DT with the same value as Foxworth would be great. I think that foxy could potentially be a starter in the NFL, but that he gives too much cushion to be a starter in Denver.

about Foxworth doing well in camp, I never felt like it showed up in the preseason games. He’s best suited to be a Cover-2 corner, and I think he needs to go to a team that plays a lot of zone.

I’m very high on Jack Williams, and I think the only reason he lasted until the 4th round is that he’s about 5 foot 6. He’s a guy who jumps off the screen at you when the game is being played, though. I think he will supplant Paymah pretty quickly as the 3rd cornerback.

It’s a shame, I’ve always been a big fan of Foxworth and he’s one of the classiest guys on the team. And he was born in Oxford (UK) so he’s kind of local in a distant way.

However, I’ll trust the FO on this one. I really hope we get something/one good in return. I think it’s cutting things a little fine because I would be seriously apprehensive about having Paymah as #2 if Bly were to go down. Or if the unspeakable were to happen. It wouldn’t be on the Roc Alexander scale, but I’d feel much better with Foxworth in there.

Still, I guess JMFW is turning out better than anyone could have expected. It’s just that the FO are going to have to start thinking about getting a CB to supersede Bly and Foxworth was a good safety blanket in that respect. But I’m guessing Slo’s pretty good at picking out corner prospects. If he’s still around then.

Whatever happens, I hope we send him somewhere nice with a classy organisation, I know it’s business, but I’d hate for him to end up somewhere like Cincy.

I have been calling Foxy out as the weakest link when he has to play Corner. It has shown that he has problems covering, but he can play a Cover 2 position. I just felt he was a liability if we needed him filling in for Champ. He can be successful in other systems, and I’d rather have Jack Will in there even with the rookie mistakes that he will certainly make this year.

I like Foxworth a lot and he is a great spokesperson and leader off the field. In that end I will miss him and hope him success wherever he goes.

As far as the potential return? It will depend on what we get for him.

1. I want to see this Jack Williams kid
2. I want to know who/what we get in return
3. I want to see this Jack Williams kid!!

Broncos drafted 3 corners – Darrent Williams, Domonique Foxworth, and Karl Paymah. Someone said at the time that Paymah maybe had the best upside because of size and the fact that he had only played man coverage in college (Washington State). We all know what happened to Williams, but it’s interesting that Paymah looks to be the last of these three very nice young men.
Did Paymah outlast Foxworth because of ability, or because one or the other was expendable, and Foxworth would get a better return?
Both were going to be unrestricted free agents next year, so upon reflection, that will have an effect on what we get for him (it’s not like we traded Champ).

We’ve written about this subject — of trading Foxy and/or Paymah — so it’s hardly a surprise, especially considering they’re both RFAs on tender offers who are free to depart at the end of the season without compensation to the Broncos.

We can argue about the timing — I stated in an earlier post that early was better than late — but the important thing was that they got it done. And it’s probably a good idea to make some arrangements regarding Paymah, too.

As I said before, I’d like to see the Broncos pick up another DT, but I don’t know that they’ll be able to get the appropriate value so I’d just as soon see draft picks, especially considering the distribution of defensive players in the next 2 draft crops. If the scouts do their homework next year then the Broncos can find DL help in the 3rd – 4th range and use the first two picks on a LB and S. Having some more picks is a windfall, and it was a waste to use Foxy as a nickle if another team considering him a potential starter and were willing to give us appropriate compensation in return.

I think Paymah’s in danger of fizzling out to be honest – in the end Foxworth is actually tradeable whilst Paymah might get a “who?” out of some bemused GMs.

I thought at the end of the 2005 season that Paymah might come on in a couple of years…but as it stands now, I don’t think he’ll ever fulfill his potential – he’s been too slow burning and whilst he may be a solid dimeback I wouldn’t want to entrust him with any other role.

It’s weird to think that Paymah’s the last member of the ’05 draft though because I thought that at least 3 of them had a long term future with the Broncos (2CBs and Myers).

True about Myers. We got Larsen out of that, right?

I am really astonished by this.

Shanny better have something pretty impressive on the burner because right now this doesn’t make sense.

paymah never impressed me, ever. but he also has little trade value, i know. let’s see what we get for foxy before we weigh that. i hope it is a player that can help out this season, though

had a conversation about this last night. Props to him in that he knew something was going to happen to Foxy soon.

Out of five CBs on the roster, Foxworth was the third best, ahead of Paymah and Williams. But they are all to good to cut and 5 is too many to carry so something has to give in order to absorb the need for roster balance among the rest of the positions and salary cap considerations, especially next year. When it comes to a trade, it takes two to tango, so you are obligated to put the most value that you can risk on the table. That means Foxworth.

When it comes to evaluating who will help the team more, it is obvious we get more value out of Paymah and Williams than we do out of Foxy, even though he is the better corner. The problem is, like Holland, he is too good to be missing 40%+ of the plays in a game. This is yet another great move by the Broncos front office: Foxy willl get to start somewhere, and get paid for the player he is instead of the player we need him to be, and the Broncos are going to reap some serious value from a trade, that helps balance this roster.

Lastly, to analyze Foxy’s play, someone above said that he was more suited to a cover-2 or zone scheme. Absolutely right. With Bly and Champ being Aces in man coverage (which is a rarity to have two that can do it that well, so I am glad to see us taking advantage of it) we need our third and even fourth corner to be able to play man. Foxy could play man, but he is a physical mismatch with 60% of the receivers in the league, whereas Paymah, even not being as skilled as Foxy, can effectively shut his guy down by being a mismatch with him.

The reason is that the passing game is a game of options. QBs have to make decisions so fast that just giving the impression of a mismatch is often enough to prevent the throw to your guy. That is why reading the play is so important for DBs: if they are in the right spot, the QB has to look at his next option, unless of course he spots a mismatch.

Foxy will be a huge help to a team, and we will not get stuck in a bidding battle to choose between him and Paymah next year, Jack Williams can be utilized, and we will get something of value that helps balance another position somewhere, either now or next year.

This is a 100% awesome trade…

I think a draft pick would be fine, especially if we want to get one of the stud MLB’s in next year’s draft. We’ll need all the picks we can get in case we need to move up to the top ten range where Laurinitis(Ohio St.) and Maualuga(USC) may be picked.

if it is less than that….there must be a reason.

He starred on a Spike TV show called Super Agent, where various agents competed to construct his contract. WTH?! He has a tattoo of his name on his arm, and his website is shauncody75.com.

However, according to his Myspace, which is set to private, he is a Barack Obama fan, so he can’t be that bad, right Zap? ;)

Long time USC fan.
He is only 25, was a very agressive and disruptive player for USC, and a good team leader for them
He is a better DE than a DT, and NEVER suited Detroit’s style.
I maybe the lone voice here, but I think he would be a great tandem with Doom. People grow up and change and I think as part of a young squad like us, and with the help of EE adn Dewayne Robertson, he will do well for us.
Werd!

In our system which should see a lot more movement I could see this for sure Styg. With him, Thomas and Robertson rotating, and I would not be surprised to see him throiwn to End sometimes too, we would never give the opposite O Line a rest.

In this article it is saying Denver is expected to bring back G Dylan Gandy after Foxy is traded. Plus the Raiders acquired Ashley Lelie. Hahahaha, can’t wait to see what he doesn’t do Monday night.

Foxy traded for a seventh round pick to Atlanta?? Possible additional 6th rounder if he resigns with Atl after this year. A seventh and a sixth makes it seem like we just got owned. We got worked on that one. So hope this is a joke, or just plain wrong. :(