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What have we learned?

After taking some time to ponder the Broncos 41-14 shellacking of the Raiders on Monday night, I’ve tried to assess exactly what we can fairly takeaway from the Broncos performance. I have watched the game a second time and have determined that very few definitive conclusions can be drawn.

Did we see the reemergence of the Broncos as one of the elite teams in the NFL? Or…did we see a Raiders team that is simply not ready to compete at an NFL level? There are clearly indications of both.

The Broncos offense looked unstoppable. As the three Mikes repeatedly pointed out, Denver could pretty much do whatever they wanted to against the Raiders defense. The Broncos offense looked good; however, the Raiders defense also just looked plain bad. They were not able to get any pressure on Cutler. The scheme was incredibly simplistic. The penalties were frequent and senseless. They had several blown coverages. In short, they beat themselves as much as Cutler and the Broncos beat them. Nevertheless, I think there is little doubt at this point that the Broncos offense is the real deal; however, it will not be that easy all season.

The Broncos defense was questionable.  The Raiders offense was often it’s own worst enemy. I think we really have learned little about the Broncos’ defense. They did not look particularly stout against the run. The Raiders frequently ran for over five yards on first and second down; on the other hand, the Broncos were undeniably stingier on third and fourth down and had a couple great stops. Either way, the run defense will clearly need to improve against a potent San Diego rushing attack on Sunday.

The Broncos pass defense was also suspect. Several times the Raiders had a wide open receiver get behind Denver’s coverage and the only thing that prevented an easy touchdown was a dropped pass or a slightly errant throw by Jamarcus Russell. The Broncos were able to get some pressure on Russell. They had two sacks and Russell was hurried most of the game. Once again, however, it is unclear if this is a sign of a Denver strength or an Oakland weakness. They made numerous unforced errors that they were simply unable to overcome.

In short, the Raiders are a mess. The coach hates the owner. The owner hates the coach. The coach hates the defensive coordinator. The defensive coordinator…well, you get the point. The team is very young at key positions and may have brought in a host of character concerns. Al Davis seems unwilling to allow Kiffin the discretion necessary to fully implement his vision and may not be willing to give him the time necessary either. Despite all of the preseason spending and optimism, the Raiders may very well still be the worst team in the NFL…perhaps by a significant margin.

This weekends match up against the Chargers will be a much more reliable test for this Denver Broncos team. It is extremely unlikely that San Diego will give Denver as much help as Oakland did in securing a victory. Denver’s defense will face a much more competent San Diego offense that will seek to exploit Denver’s shortcomings in rush defense and pass coverage. We will also face a defense that is significantly better. It is important that the Broncos and their fans do not become overconfident as they prepare for a Chargers team that will be a much better indication of how good the 2008 Broncos really are.

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What can we conclude from the Broncos win over the Raiders?
The Broncos are a GREAT football team!!!
8 votes
The Broncos are pretty good...but the Raiders are pretty Bad!
48 votes
The Raiders are a BAD football team!!!
5 votes
Nothing...it's just one game!
7 votes

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Big take away for me

I think that Shanny’s play calling will more aggressive and innovated this year. I sense that he’s going trying to channel his “inner-Shanny” (aka, young Shanny) to develop crazy new plays that keep the defenses guessing. I think we can all agree we’ve grown pretty predictable the past few seasons. I also think he trusts Cutler to execute, which leads to the more aggressive play calling.

Just my two cents…

I wish Woody Paige was our coach!

by bcfunk on Sep 10, 2008 7:37 AM MDT reply actions   0 recs

This very point was stated by Alfred Williams on 104.3 yesterday...

he believes that since Elway retired and those two superbowl teams, at least one of which he was on, Shannahan has not called a game like he did on Monday night. They even flashed back to the preseason and in training camp Williams made the same statement before even seeing this team in action, he said something along the lines of Mike’s got it back…

-Chuck Norris recently had the idea to sell his urine as a canned beverage. We know this beverage as Red Bull.

by Denverjhawk on Sep 10, 2008 7:46 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

I agree

 I also think that there has been a fundlemental shift in Shannan approach in that he sees that the strength of the offense is now the passing game and not the running game, and that this will be a pass to set up the run type offense, as opposed to the more traditional bootlegs off play action.

"How do the berries taste Ralph?" Bart Simpson
"They taste like burning." Ralph Wigam
Broncoman

by Broncoman on Sep 10, 2008 8:53 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Agree, but a few more points...

          The raiders WR’s never “beat” a Broncos CB. Anytime someone in a black jersey got loose in the secondary he was being chased by a LB or S.

by super7 on Sep 10, 2008 9:46 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Either way, I think SD will probably take not and try to exploit that!

by UnarmingMermaid on Sep 10, 2008 11:50 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

so are we all seem to agree that Shanny got his mojo back

if that remains the case, then “yeah, baby!” let’s take this show on the road!

I wish Woody Paige was our coach!

by bcfunk on Sep 10, 2008 10:01 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

yeah baby!

Broncos play calling made me randy!!!

by UnarmingMermaid on Sep 10, 2008 11:49 AM MDT up reply actions   1 recs

LOL!

I wish Woody Paige was our coach!

by bcfunk on Sep 10, 2008 12:32 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

I agree about the playcalling

I think Shanny always had these plays in the playbook but has not had the QB he trusted enough to run them until now. Cutler has opened up the playbook. That mixed with the genius of Shanny will have D coordinaters pulling thier hair out this year.

by Papamag on Sep 10, 2008 2:58 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

I loved seeing that.

It was good to see Shanny throw a bunch of different looks at the Raiders. I am excited to see what he has in his bag of tricks that he didn’t show on MNF.

It is all about trust. I mean after one play I saw Shanahan smiling when talking to Jay because he can see the kid is really learning and maturing as a QB.

"It doesn't dissipate" ~ Mike Shanahan

by weazel on Sep 10, 2008 3:41 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Obviously, Shanahan also trusts Royal

and so does Cutler. Cutler coming off the field with his arm around Royal spoke volumes. This incredible kid has gone from “Eddie who” to “key player” in an amazingly short time. The Broncos draft team has hit another home run (lots of those lately).

"In the empty spaces - lacunae, vacuums, pauses, voids, black holes - new things begin. We are born anew from the unexplored space, the badlands, the outlaw territory." - Sam Keen

by spock on Sep 10, 2008 5:51 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

"the return of the mastermind"

as i’ve been calling it, has begun. 2 excellent drafts will do that for you. also, he simply couldn’t call these plays with jake and co. talent, speed, and execution have elevated this young offense. once again, the pass WILL be setting up the run, at least early on this season. i got ripped for that one, but this our greatest team strength right now, and mike knows it. when torain gets back, and the run-blocking improves, the new line jells, etc., i’ll say it again: we will be unstoppable on offense. mistakes will only slow us down a bit. i wonder if jeremy bates and the new play-callling trio had anything to do with these innovative plays. but i just sense the aggressiveness has to do with trust and confidence in our young players, and the feeling that we will need to score touchdowns to win games this season. get a lead by throwing it, run the ball to keep it. ring a bell? defense, and especially st’s still have to catch up a little. but we are on our way, folks

by davecheffy on Sep 10, 2008 10:16 AM MDT reply actions   0 recs

That's a good point,

I wonder what Jeremy’s Bates’ role was in the offensive play calling. And, to a lesser extent, what Dennison’s role was. Several analyst, after gushing over the unique plays, mentioned Dennison but I assumed they just didn’t really understand the internal operation of the Broncos. Could be one of those things that we’ll never really know.

It’ll be interesting to see if the play calling remains as creative throughout the season.

by UnarmingMermaid on Sep 10, 2008 11:48 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Shanny is calling the plays.

Bates and Dennison are either reading the defense and advising Shanny or watching for mismatches on certain plays.

"Greater is an army of sheep led by a lion, than an army of lions led by a sheep" Defoe

by Steve Nichols on Sep 10, 2008 5:59 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Two excellent drafts

and the one in between might turn out to have been not too bad. Even if Moss is a bust, a premature judgement in my opinion, Crowder is solid, Thomas is starting on an improved d-line, and look who’s starting at right tackle and doing fine, thank you. But 2006 and 2008 are looking more and more like brilliant drafts. This last one in particular has surprised me, not just Clady a bunch of no-name players who’ve turned out to be a collection of gems: Royal, Torain, Williams, Hillis, Woodyard, Polumbus, and with this kind of track record, I can’t wait to see how good Powell does next year. Who’s picking these guys? How did our drafting go from being so bad to being so off-the-charts good?

"In the empty spaces - lacunae, vacuums, pauses, voids, black holes - new things begin. We are born anew from the unexplored space, the badlands, the outlaw territory." - Sam Keen

by spock on Sep 10, 2008 6:03 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

I wonder

how much in the past 3 drafts Sundquist had a say. Just based off the 2008 draft Shanny did very good

by broncfanstuckinsd on Sep 10, 2008 6:15 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

We can forget him, at least for now.

He isn’t playing for us.

"Greater is an army of sheep led by a lion, than an army of lions led by a sheep" Defoe

by Steve Nichols on Sep 10, 2008 6:53 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

But it's a good point

I did forget Alridge. We’ve drafted and picked up so many gems, it’s hard to remember them all.

"In the empty spaces - lacunae, vacuums, pauses, voids, black holes - new things begin. We are born anew from the unexplored space, the badlands, the outlaw territory." - Sam Keen

by spock on Sep 10, 2008 7:12 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Shanahan ib 06

I thought Shanahan, in the first part of the season (the Jake Plummer part) made Plummer’s play way too restricted, in an attempt to cut down on Jake’s mistakes. That worked, but it also cut down on Plummer’s play-making ability. The defense was playing very well, and I wanted Plummer to be able to do his thing – if he turned it over, so what? the defense could deal with it.
Anyway, I remember after Cutler took over, Shanahan made the statement that he could just see in Cutler’s eyes that he was begging Shanahan to just let him throw it. That’s what Shanahan is doing now.

I like a man who fights with a grin on his face. Winston Churchill.

by bradley on Sep 10, 2008 10:18 AM MDT reply actions   0 recs

I wish we had seen more of the '06 defense last night!

It was crazy. Defenders would fly around the field and bring pressure from every and any possible direction. They forced turnovers and mistakes. Monday’s defense still looked very conservative by comparison. I’m hoping that Slowik just never had to show the real deal after the Broncos got and kept an early lead. Now we just need the defense to get it’s ‘mojo’ back!

by UnarmingMermaid on Sep 10, 2008 11:59 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

I completely disagree with you about the run defense.

I think they looked great. The stats show that we gave up 150 on the ground, and I think that’s how you’re looking at it. Before the game got out of hand (first half of the game) we did an excellent job against the run.

When the game got out of reach, that is when guys started taking it a little easy and the Faders started racking up some yards on the ground (4th qtr). But at that point, who cares? The game was won and those yards are meaningless.

I swear, that is how the MSM would talk about our run defense, not one of our own.

Michael Fabiano really knows nothing about football outside of regression analysis and stat extrapolation. If it doesn’t have to do with fantasy football, his opinion is worthless.

by kwool79 on Sep 10, 2008 10:27 AM MDT reply actions   0 recs

I have to disagree

I also saw that several times on 1st and 2nd downs that Fargas and McFadden were getting 4-5 yds per carry. I saw too many times where we were pulling down the backs from behind instead of meeting them at the LOS or behind it and stopping them for a loss or no gain (like the faders did to us several times).

If the faders running backs could do that, just imagine what LDT will do…

"It's all over Fat Man" - Tom Jackson to John Madden 1977 AFC Championship Game

"I love your analysis of our team. Its kinda like watching a spider monkey trying to figure out a jar of peanuts.. you know whats going on.. you know whats in there, but to actually figure it out, is just a bit beyond your mental skills..."
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by DesertBroncoFan on Sep 10, 2008 10:32 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

i disagree too

early in the game we gave up several yards per carry. we were able to improve because there was no threat from russell passing the ball so we could sell out to stop the run. i like how quickly we were able to adjust, but against a more balanced team (like san diego) i am not convinced that we will be able to stop the run consistently

by dabriza on Sep 10, 2008 11:16 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

I have to disagree a bit as well. Coming off the win against the Faders I felt that the run defense was still a concern. There were several times on first or second down where the left side of the Raiders formation walled off the right side of our defense and allowed Fargas or MacFadden to get to the edge uncontested. That needs to be improved if we want to stop teams as good as Chargers or Saints. Don’t get me wrong, the run defense was better than last season, but it wasn’t spectacular.

On the plus side, I think that even if the defense struggles a bit, we can score with the Chargers. I don’t think there is any doubt that we have the most talented QB in the division, and he has weapons.

by jaffe28 on Sep 10, 2008 11:26 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Thinking about it…it is interesting how many of the Raider’s big runs were towards either sideline. Our weakness last year was up the middle. They most of noticed us stacking the inside and realized the outside was consistently open. It’s surprising because our LBs are so fast.

by UnarmingMermaid on Sep 10, 2008 12:05 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

I noticed that, too

Lots of off-tackle runs at Dumervil, who is still a work in progress on run defense. But I noticed that once the Raiders got inside the 20 on their initial drive the run defense stiffened and that the Broncos had key drive-killing run stops the rest of the way until garbage time in the fourth quarter. And this is the Raiders’ strength. They’re one of the premier rushing teams in the league, so we bent but didn’t break in what figured to be a severe test of our run defense.

"In the empty spaces - lacunae, vacuums, pauses, voids, black holes - new things begin. We are born anew from the unexplored space, the badlands, the outlaw territory." - Sam Keen

by spock on Sep 10, 2008 6:13 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

jury is out

I saw good and bad on the run defense. But I also think that they were trying different things with the raiders after it was apparant oakland wasnt going to be able to score any points if the Broncos did not want them to. On some of the plays where a LB was on a WR, I think that was Denver tinkering. I dont think they will allow SD to get those types of mismatches against them

by broncfanstuckinsd on Sep 10, 2008 11:53 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

We'll have Boss Bailey back

and he’s our best coverage linebacker.

"In the empty spaces - lacunae, vacuums, pauses, voids, black holes - new things begin. We are born anew from the unexplored space, the badlands, the outlaw territory." - Sam Keen

by spock on Sep 10, 2008 6:14 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Kwool79...

I have to call them as I see them. I’ve never much cared for La La land (I know Denverjhawk…I’m the mayor). I prefer to call the weaknesses as I see them so we can discuss how to go about improving them. I felt that the run defense still looked like a clear weakness.

by UnarmingMermaid on Sep 10, 2008 12:02 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

What about the 42 yard run by Fargas in the 4th quarter?

Take that away and we kept them to under 100yds. By the 4th quarter, we weren’t going 100% (to avoid injury).

Got to call em how I sees em.

Michael Fabiano really knows nothing about football outside of regression analysis and stat extrapolation. If it doesn’t have to do with fantasy football, his opinion is worthless.

by kwool79 on Sep 10, 2008 3:29 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

My point is the data is skewed due to the GIGANTIC lead we were playing with.

Michael Fabiano really knows nothing about football outside of regression analysis and stat extrapolation. If it doesn’t have to do with fantasy football, his opinion is worthless.

by kwool79 on Sep 10, 2008 3:35 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Very true.

Many of their rushing yards came in 4th quarter garbage time, and in the first three quarters we held them to about a 4.0 average. There’s obviously room for improvement, but given what happened last year I’ll take a 4.0 against a good backfield.

1-0.

by papigrande on Sep 10, 2008 4:11 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

I agree that much of the yardage was late in the game and garbage;

however, what concerned me was the eight yard runs on first down in the first half. It felt like they were easily able to rip off five to eight yard runs througout the game. I think the rushing numbers would have been much worse if we hadn’t gotten an early lead which forced the faders to throw much more than they would have liked.

by UnarmingMermaid on Sep 10, 2008 5:22 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

And to be fair...

The Raiders were the sixth best rushing team in the NFL last year and should have only improved (DMC and a healthy Bush). We did fair much better than we did last season against a good rushing team. I’m not saying that don’t look improved…but they had a loooong way to go! We need to consistenly keep teams under 100 rushing yards (preferably way under).

by UnarmingMermaid on Sep 10, 2008 12:25 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Shanny

Recently Shanahan said that if he had coached better we would have won 3-4 extra games last year. Whether that’s true or not, you could see that the combination of Bates/Cutler/Shanahan last week had the raiders totally flummoxed, so it’s hard to argue.

That’s going to be tougher agaiinst a very good, very deep Chargers team, but I think that Shanahan has been spending his nights and weekend drawing up plays for this week since about June. Repaying the raider organizaqtion is always a big thing to him, but the two blow-out losses last year to SD still sting all the Broncos in a big way.

I don’t expect the out-of-sync, poorly executed team play that imploded last week against Car to show up this week, but this should be a just a heck of a game. Although it’s early in the season, this may let us know where we really are as an organization.,

Atwater for the Hall!

by Emmett Smith on Sep 10, 2008 11:14 AM MDT reply actions   0 recs

I remember those comments

by shanny, and at the time I thought to myself, “he played this whole season as toast.” (Toast is burnt out in Bering sea parlance). I think the tragedy at the beginning of the year sapped a lot of his drive and enthusiasm, which had been waning and being kept artificially high since 2005 or so. Canning Sundquist seems to be a huge part of this emotional oddyssey for Shanahan.

Anyone ever have to work with someone as an equal who frustrated you to no end? One day that person is gone and you can’t help coming to work with a smile on your face. I think this could be a huge factor in this situation.

(PS Bear, I don’t know if you have been back to look at your latest sunnyside post, but I left a comment for you there applauding the post and the voice you used. It has been bumped by this active, exciting community, and I was gone for a while, so I didn’t know if I read and replied to late or not…)

Mountains, forest, sea: these render man fierce, but yet do not destroy the man.

by Jeremy Bolander on Sep 10, 2008 11:41 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

I agree with you

on 2006 being a toast. (like that?) Shanny seems rejuvanated and it showed from his presser when he says he still doesnt like oakland. The game he called was as aggressive as I have ever seen him. I believe he has, especially to him, the best QB he has had since 1998 and can really use his full playbook. He has playmakers at the WR position. Not since Rod and East Ed. TE/s who can catch and run,(Sheffs 72 yards catch was AWESOME) and maybe an aggressive defense like they had in 96-98. I am little uneasy with the rush defense, but I also feel Denver gave up a lot of yards to the run late in the 3rd and 4th to keep the clock moving. I must say I am the most optomistic of any Bronco team since 1998. Also back to the defense I wonder if Boss not playing had any affect. I wonder if he is a better SLB than Winborn.
Plus want DJ’s sack pretty cool. I love delyed blitzes like that

by broncfanstuckinsd on Sep 10, 2008 11:59 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

broncfanstuckinsd...

it’s hard to ignore that this game sort of felt like watching that ’98 Broncos team. The game was pretty much over at half time and the Broncos coasted to a big win. It felt good!!!

by UnarmingMermaid on Sep 10, 2008 12:18 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

I did see Shanahan attempt a smile several times on the sideline...

it looked like the muscle memory wasn’t quite there but it was a valient effort.

by UnarmingMermaid on Sep 10, 2008 12:15 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Probably trying not to smile

and not succeeding. :)

"In the empty spaces - lacunae, vacuums, pauses, voids, black holes - new things begin. We are born anew from the unexplored space, the badlands, the outlaw territory." - Sam Keen

by spock on Sep 10, 2008 6:18 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Thanks for the comment!

I’m sort of warm and furry as bears go, but just ask Shelby – I do have my growly side….After burning out of the ‘Dark Side’ nonsense emanating from somewhere in our division, I thought a sort of Sunnyside Bear was in order.I like the waterfronr thing, though. Thanks for the early hint on that.

Atwater for the Hall!

by Emmett Smith on Sep 10, 2008 4:15 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

I never saw those comments by Shanahan...

I wonder what specifically he was refering to?

by UnarmingMermaid on Sep 10, 2008 12:10 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

My 1.5 cents

I think this game showed us that the Broncos are better than they were last season despite not being huge players in the free agent market. We improved the character and heart of our team along with the talent and depth. This game showed us that Shanahan now has full confidence in Cutler to run the offense and can open the playbook. We learned that Eddie Royal is going to be a force to be reckoned with. We learned that the offensive line is fully prepared for pass blocking, but needs some work on run blocking. We learned that we have made huge strides as a team.

We learned that this team is HUNGRY.

We also learned a few things about the raiders too. They aren’t as good as ‘everyone’ thought they would be despite spending a ton getting mediocre and injured free agents. They haven’t fixed their offensive line (the #1 thing I thought they needed to do in the reloading season). They are still the same undisciplined team they have always been. That Jamarcus has a cannon, but needs time to develop. Their running game is sound, but they’re going to be throwing a lot this year trying to come from behind (there’s that OL thing again).

We learned that this team is at least a year or two from being competitive.

Owning the Patriots since September 9, 1960

by Darin H on Sep 10, 2008 12:00 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

and recommended n/t

Owning the Patriots since September 9, 1960

by Darin H on Sep 10, 2008 12:01 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

All very true!!!

I think the hunger may be the most essential ingredient. I think part of the offseason purge was to get rid of guys who were more worried about the number in their bank account than the number on the scoreboard. I think we have a team now who loves to play football and it shows.

by UnarmingMermaid on Sep 10, 2008 12:23 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

The Raiders are a dysfunctional organization

and thus less than the sum of their parts. The Broncos are exactly the opposite.

"In the empty spaces - lacunae, vacuums, pauses, voids, black holes - new things begin. We are born anew from the unexplored space, the badlands, the outlaw territory." - Sam Keen

by spock on Sep 10, 2008 6:21 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

we learned

that meangelo fall (love that one, whoever came up with it) is an overrated cancer to his team. $70 million worth of it. we learned that burgess $? got schooled, and injured, playing against rookie tackles. we learned (ok, we knew) that javon $? is in no position to help his team. and we learned (ok, we knew) that al davis will never learn

by davecheffy on Sep 10, 2008 12:29 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

MeAngelo...

That was me. (Bows)

"Greater is an army of sheep led by a lion, than an army of lions led by a sheep" Defoe

by Steve Nichols on Sep 10, 2008 6:05 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

and i just learned this:

OAKLAND, Calif.—Police say they arrested 45 Oakland Raiders fans and used stun guns to break up several fights at Monday night’s game against the Denver Broncos.
The arrests for drunkenness, fighting, assault and drug charges were on top of dozens of ejections for minor offenses such as sitting in the wrong seat.

Authorities say three police officers were hurt when a brawl broke out as they attempted to detain a drunken man before the game.

Two of the officers suffered cuts and bruises when they were punched in the face. The third officer suffered a broken finger.

Oakland police spokesman Roland Holmgren says some people come to the game just to start trouble.

by davecheffy on Sep 10, 2008 3:00 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

Oakland's Stadium reminds me of the thunderdome...



-Chuck Norris recently had the idea to sell his urine as a canned beverage. We know this beverage as Red Bull.

by Denverjhawk on Sep 10, 2008 3:19 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Nice one!!

"It doesn't dissipate" ~ Mike Shanahan

by weazel on Sep 10, 2008 3:35 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

"Oakland police spokesman Roland Holmgren says some people come to the game just to start trouble."

But not their team, apparently!!

"In the empty spaces - lacunae, vacuums, pauses, voids, black holes - new things begin. We are born anew from the unexplored space, the badlands, the outlaw territory." - Sam Keen

by spock on Sep 10, 2008 6:23 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Two things we learned:
1) Broncos are better than the media gives them credit for
2) No doubt Raiders are the worst team in the NFL

by DCSuperFan on Sep 10, 2008 4:24 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

What if we find out, as the season goes on

that they aren’t, that we just made them look that way?

"In the empty spaces - lacunae, vacuums, pauses, voids, black holes - new things begin. We are born anew from the unexplored space, the badlands, the outlaw territory." - Sam Keen

by spock on Sep 10, 2008 6:25 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Kudos to UnarmingMermaid

for an excellent, in-depth analysis. This provoked a great deal of thought by many and spawned (South Central Alaska term) good discussion. Thank you. A point that many have dance around is the big lead we established early. I think this influenced Coach Shanahan’s play calling and defensive allignments. We will see a much better opponent this week and I think we will see a Bronco team well prepared for them. Once again, great post UnarmingMermaid.

On to Syphilis and his merry men...... rynoz71 on Sep 9, 2008

by firstfan on Sep 10, 2008 4:25 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

Thank you for the compliments firstfan!

I hope that early lead allowed Slowik to keep his defense vanilla and we’ll see the real deal this weekend. I’m hoping for the perfect storm!

by UnarmingMermaid on Sep 10, 2008 5:27 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Establishing an early lead

is a Shanahan trademark that has been characteristic of his best teams.

"In the empty spaces - lacunae, vacuums, pauses, voids, black holes - new things begin. We are born anew from the unexplored space, the badlands, the outlaw territory." - Sam Keen

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