Report: Lane Kiffin to be fired as soon as Monday
ESPN's Chris Mortensen is reporting that Lane Kiffin is expected to be fired as soon as Monday, regardless of the outcome of today's game in Kansas City. This would be a really sad day to be a Raiders fan, as I believe Kiffin to be the best coach they've had since Jon Gruden. They're still losing, but the direction of the team looked much better last season than it had since at least the Gruden days.
Kiffin became known for being extremely candid with the media, which I suspect did not make Al Davis especially happy. He indicated this week that he had no say whatsoever what happened with the defense, and he believed that some more blitzing would have been in order last week, but it wasn't up to him.
Davis has a long history of hiring young, offensive-minded Head Coaches, and of controlling the defense himself, through a hand-picked Defensive Coordinator. See here and here. The Head Coach is not part of the process of defensive game planning. The acrimony between Kiffin and Davis reportedly began in the offseason, when Kiffin wanted to fire Rob Ryan as Defensive Coordinator, and hire his father Monte to replace him. (Ryan wanted to leave to go the Jets and work for his old buddy Eric Mangini, too, as a side note.)
Anybody who says that the Raiders are in a down cycle is delusional. They will continue to be terrible until Al Davis dies, and the team is sold to somebody who will hire smart football people to run it. No good coach will ever take the Head Coach's job there again, because this very public breakdown reinforces the reality, that it's impossible to be successful under the constraints of Big Al. I feel for Raiders fans, who have to continue to tolerate it, and I empathize with the mean-looking guy who was practically in tears on Monday night.
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And yet they still blame Lane for their loss(es)
Do Raider fans have their head in the sand? I’m sure that they all agree that Al needs to go, yet they still blame Kiffin.
The Raiders failure this season so far and yet to come was predetermined in the offseason. It was so simple. Davis took away all of Kiffins authority. He’s a “Lane Duck” so to speak. If a head Coach has no authority to add, cut, discipline or hire players and Coaching Staff, then he is useless.
Davis is dillusional. Kiffin is nothing more than a figurehead. Davis has given him mud, but no straw and he wants kiffin to build bricks.
It’s very simple that Kiffin makes these types of remarks, just as when he didn’t wear Raiders gear at the League meetings. How can he feel like he represents the Raiders when he is told to do nothing. Don’t step on the toes of the coordinators, don’t discipline the problem players, don’t make any deals and or talk to any prospects..“What!”
Kiffin is the weakest Coach in the League. How can his players respect him? Even that comment “his players” is not something he can say, because it’s been made clear to him that they are not his players. They are Al’s players.
So, my advice to Raiders fans is to demand that Al get his wrinkled butt out of his wheelchair and come down and run the damn team himself, or give his Head Coach some authority and get the hell out of the way.
And as far as Rob Ryan goes, he’s as arrogant as his father. Boasting on his family name, as to him being one of “the best”. Well Kiffin didn’t have jack to do with Denver hanging 41 on them. That is all Ryan. On the other side of the ball, Kiffin has to work with an overated first pick in Russell and a runningback that he never wanted.
Raiders fans should be lining up tonight with the torches and the pitchforks at Al’s mansion and put an end to the nightmare.
"If Denver beats us, I'll walk back to Detroit" - Alex Karras
by Denver Diehard on Sep 14, 2008 8:58 AM MDT 1 recs
Classic
Raiders fans should be lining up tonight with the torches and the pitchforks at Al’s mansion and put an end to the nightmare.
Mountains, forest, sea: these render man fierce, but yet do not destroy the man.
by styg50 on
Sep 14, 2008 9:43 AM MDT
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This is a great response
from Ryan in a press conference. The stark emotionalism that Ryan runs on is why Davis favors him. Davis has his eggs squarely in the emotion basket, and is trying to drive the raiders to success purely by force of will, with little consideration for reality.
Towards the end Ryan gives some insight into why the raiders looked so poor (cutler is better than he thought at making decisions this early in his career), what happened to Hall (defensive calls were intended to feature Hall defending in a deep third portion of the field and Royals routes were designed to press that and release into deeper routes via double moves), and some of the problems with scheming against Shanahan (notes that Shanahan’s playcalling develops as the game goes on and is designed to force a defense to adjust as the game progresses). Really good stuff.
Ryan: A couple of those plays were definitely on me. The one max pressure where we hit our head the guy had a triple move on him and shit I don’t know who could cover that. Willie Brown, maybe, back in the day. That’s just the truth.
Mountains, forest, sea: these render man fierce, but yet do not destroy the man.
by styg50 on Sep 14, 2008 10:06 AM MDT 0 recs
Forgot the link
Mountains, forest, sea: these render man fierce, but yet do not destroy the man.
by styg50 on
Sep 14, 2008 10:06 AM MDT
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sad....raiders to stay in the bottom of the barrell
If God is not a Bronco fan, then WHY are sunsets Blue and Orange? - Jon Tollerud 5/22/08
I got a high ankle sprain in college and it still hurts! ~ TSG 8/13/08
by Zappa on Sep 14, 2008 11:13 AM MDT 0 recs
And the whole league is going to be
shooting fish in that barrel.
To have striven, to have made the effort, to have been true to certain ideals - this alone is worth the struggle. - William Penn
Tom Arnold, of Fox Sports Net's Best Damn Sports Show Period, said this about Warren Sapp: "Hey, Warren, the Raiders signed you to a seven-year deal. I guess Bill Callahan was right --- they are the dumbest team in America."
by Philistine21 on
Sep 14, 2008 11:19 AM MDT
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I feel for Kiffin
Seriously, he’s a solid young HC who has been undermined at every turn. He’s known (thansk, HT) as an educator/coach, he has talent and drive. We talked here last week or so about having a program – the raiders have been programmed for failure for decades now.
Maybe Ryan does get the job, and good luck to him – I wonder if he thinks, as people do, that things will be different when he changes hats.
Fullbacks Rule
by broncobear on Sep 14, 2008 11:42 AM MDT 0 recs
That is not Mortensen reporting it
At least according to the link you provided Ted (I have not heard the actual ESPN report on TV). They are relying on a report from the San Jose Mercury News. That report is written by a reporter who also reported that Kevin Garnett had been traded to the Warrioirs during the NBA draft last year.
I may be giving Al Davis too much credit for logical and consistent thinking, but if he refused to fire Kiffin in the offseason because he did not want to pay him (which was why he was trying to force Kiffin to resign) I don’t see what has changed since then.
by MattR on Sep 14, 2008 11:56 AM MDT 0 recs
They changed the story then...
Earlier it said “Chris Mortensen has learned…”
"I am not one of those who think that coming in second or third is winning." -- Robert F. Kennedy
by TedBartlett905 on
Sep 14, 2008 2:28 PM MDT
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I liked the comment:
“He’s not the guy I hired,” Davis said in mid-August of Kiffin, according to the report in the Bay Area newspaper.
He thought he was hiring Mike S. again.
Victor Frankl:
What man actually needs is not a tensionless state but rather the striving and struggling for some goal worthy of him. What he needs is not the discharge of tension at any cost, but the call of a potential meaning waiting to be fulfilled by him.
Everything can be taken from a man but one thing: the last of the human freedoms – to choose one’s attitude in any given set of circumstances, to choose one’s own way.
by wyoeng on Sep 14, 2008 8:01 PM MDT 0 recs
Great, I am sure Kifin will gladly take his money and run
Amazing how history repeats itself, I am sure Kifin will land as an O-coordinator somewhere, get some rings and then come back and coach someone like the Chiefs and punk Davis twice a year.
I really don’t know why if you were a Raider fan you would show any support for this team based on how Al Davis screws everyone (fans, coaches, players, the NFL).
"How do the berries taste Ralph?" Bart Simpson
"They taste like burning." Ralph Wigam
Broncoman
by Broncoman on Sep 14, 2008 8:39 PM MDT 0 recs
you know, if I had only read this before my post immediately following. Still, I’d like to see Kiffin end up in KC, if only for Kiffin’s sake.
by hooper on
Sep 14, 2008 9:29 PM MDT
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I would take him in Denver if.....
He became a disciple of Shanahan and learned the pro style of the West Coast Offense. He could be a-hell-of-a coordinator for Denver.
"If Denver beats us, I'll walk back to Detroit" - Alex Karras
by Denver Diehard on
Sep 14, 2008 9:54 PM MDT
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Assuming that Kiffin is shipped out, either now or at the end of the year,
what are the odds of him landing in Kansas City? (Also assuming a deportation of Herm, but you understood that.)
Could it be possible to have two bitter ex-Raider coaches in the AFC West to haunt Al Davis?
Please? Pretty please?
by hooper on Sep 14, 2008 9:27 PM MDT 0 recs






















