Denver Broncos 39 - San Diego Chargers 38 - How The (AFC)West Was Won
by TheSportsGuru
on Sep 14, 2008 10:07 PM MDT
in 2008 Post Game Notes
| Category | Broncos | Chargers |
| Score | 39 | 38 |
| Rushing Yards |
145 | 80 |
| Passing Yards |
341 | 376 |
| Total Yards | 486 | 456 |
| T.O.P | 34:00 | 26:00 |
I don't know if the Denver Broncos will go one to win the AFC West. I choose to take things one week at a time, one game at a time. Football is a game that momentum can change in a flash, and in a moment everything that you knew to be true ends up being false.
We had alot of that and then some this afternoon as the two best teams in the AFC West went at it for 60 minutes of battle. Like an old 'Rocky' movie, both teams seemed to take the best shot of the other yet kept coming back for more. Take and delivering more punishment. It is unfortunate that the game, like most heavyweight fights, will be strewn with controversy.
First, let's start with a couple thoughts about the 2 plays in question -- the review that wasn't and the fumble that should have been. Phil Rivers will be charged with an INT, and based on what I saw it was the right call. Let's remember what the call was. Officials claimed that Chris Chambers and Champ Bailey had simultaneous possession, and that Champ ripped the ball away. Since that was the call on the field, it is unreviewable. Even if the review equipment had worked the play liekly would have stood as called.
On the second, well, the Broncos simply were fortunate. Ed Hercules blew the call and knew as much. I am sure he feels horrible about it, and it will likely cost Herc any shot of officiating any big games come January. Secondly, I don't like blown calls like this, whether it helps or hurts me. That said, the Chargers had THREE PLAYS to stop the Broncos from getting a touchdown AND a two-point conversion. THREE PLAYS. If the Chargers come up big on any of them, they win the game. Like famous brain-cramps of the past -- Bill Buckner and Steve Bartman -- there were still plays that had to be made by both teams to affect the outcome. The Broncos made them, the Chargers did not.
Of course, we can't go much further with mentioning the decision to go for 2. It was a ballsy move by Shanahan, plain and simple. It is easy to say now that we I agreed with it, but I did and the proof is in the Open Thread. In fact, several of us were clamoring for the Broncos to go for two. Personally, it felt to me that to lose by missing a two point conversion to win was a better way to lose than by going to OT and taking chance on the coin toss. Shanahan said as much after the game -
You just got a gut [feeling] sometimes. I just felt like it was a chance for us to put it away. I didn’t want them to catch us on the coin flip. I wanted to do it then, and obviously, it worked out.
Think about it. The Broncos defense had not kept the Chargers offense out of field goal range the entire 2nd half. So, in theory, the Broncos had a 50/50 chance, at best of winning in OT. The chance that you convert a 2-point conversion? I'd say somewhat higher. Plus, you save the morale of your football team. By going for it, Shanny showed faith in his offense. If he goes to OT, and the team loses, the loss is much more crushing, with the collapse of the defense complete.
The move was ballsy to be sure, but in my opinion 100% the right thing to do.
We'll get deeper into the stats and stuff tomorrow. For now, Broncos fans, enjoy the win. The Broncos are in 1st place and control their own destiny. It doesn't get much better than that!
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Good wrap-up Guru, Thanks.
I had to miss the first three quarters and couldn’t get online to join the Open Thread. What a game!! I for one believe in living in the moment and in this moment we are 2-0 and oakland is 1-1 and KC and sandy eggo are 0-2. That is all that matters.
That’s ok with me. We’re playing for wins, not media publicity....HT 9/11/08
by firstfan on Sep 14, 2008 9:09 PM MDT 0 recs
Was at the game and almost had a heart attack about going for 2 but you are
exactly right. You have big mo, San Diego was killing our defense and that may have been there only chance with stupid overtime rules. Definitely disheartening that Jay threw that INT but he responded like a champ and is having a start that shows signs of greatness. Bad calls, blown calls or whatever are part of the game but the good thing is that those were the sort of calls that we going against us in the past and now they are going for us. Big win and I feel good about the upcoming schedule if the defense can figure out what they are doing…can we also get a replacement for Paymah and a little pass rush…sounds like a broken record on the pass rush problem…but a good win none the less
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by irish1611 on Sep 14, 2008 9:12 PM MDT 0 recs
Buzzed three minutes after posting
and someone BEAT me to it! Way to go Guru!! BUZZ BUZZ BUZZ!
That’s ok with me. We’re playing for wins, not media publicity....HT 9/11/08
by firstfan on Sep 14, 2008 9:17 PM MDT 0 recs
I think the Broncos are trying to kill me.
I really do.
In all seriousness, Shanahan has enormous, bulbous cajones. Not only did he actually go for two when no one else in the world thought he would, he called the same exact play they scored the tochdown on.
Jay Cutler’s on pace for, like, 5400 yards this year and 60 touchdowns or something. I’m too lazy to do the math, but either way, if he can keep this up and avoid any more Plummer-ian mistakes, he’s set to plant himself right there with the best QB’s in the NFL.
Speaking of those QB’s, all of them sucked today. Manning, Brady, Favruh; they all sucked and/or didn’t play. Right now the best QB’s in the league are Jay Cutler, Phil Rivers, Aaron Rodgers, Eli Manning, and Jake Delhomme, Who’dathunkit?
2-0.
by papigrande on Sep 14, 2008 9:19 PM MDT 0 recs
That's exactly what I was saying about the 2 point conversion
Of course, Shanny couldn’t hear me, but fortunately, he’s smart enough to make that evaluation on his own. The announcers, on the other hand, were shocked that he would defy convention and go for it.
I suppose that’s why they don’t have coaching jobs.
13-3? why not 16-0!?!
by jack_ on Sep 14, 2008 9:21 PM MDT 0 recs
Holy crap, the chargers fans are worse than the raiders fans!!
I’ve been trying to talk to them for a few minutes, I tried to talk to them yesterday, I tried to talk to them this morning, and you know what? I can’t even post anything without them turning it into some kind of pissing contest. Am I doing anything wrong? I just want to talk football. DaBolts is a good guy with great input, but his new boys are making a bad name for him. I’ve gone to the chargers, raiders, Titans, Jets, Chiefs, and Titans blogs and by far the worst is the chargers. I at least had a couple decent conversations with raiders fans last week. I’m all for changing our biggest rival from the faders to the dolts.
I mean, did anyone else notice this? I think it was broncfanstuckinsd that made a comment about the sdsuaztec guy. I’m about done with that. Hopefully I’ll have a better time with the Saints fans.
2-0.
by papigrande on Sep 14, 2008 9:31 PM MDT 0 recs
One Guy
Because of one guy, Charger fans are worse than Raider fans? Really, that’s what you are saying? You went over there after they lose a game LIKE THAT and say, "If you have a problem with the officiating, write a letter to the league." I don’t really know what sdsuaztec guy has been saying, but I think you must know that going over there and saying something like that is going to piss someone off. I’m 100% certain that any team in the league is going to be pissed and not want to hear that shit after losing a game that way. Saying what you said is not “trying to talk to them”, or trying to have a “decent conversation”, it’s kicking them while they are down IMO….and THAT is something I’d expect from a Raider fan.
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by MarineCorpsDuck on
Sep 14, 2008 10:06 PM MDT
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I probably shouldn't have posted that, but yes, I was disappointed with the fans both before and after the game.
What I was trying to say when I told them to write a letter to the league was to stop taking it out on Broncos fans. I meant that the league was responsible, not us. This is an NFL problem because that second call was obviously bad. I’m also sorry I posted this. I was still pretty emotional after the game last night and I was sick and tired of hearing people blame the refs. But hey, now I’ll forgive you all for that, because if my team lost a game like that, that’s exactly what I’d be doing.
When I went to BFTB, before the game or after, there were multiple people that used personal insults instead of just trying to talk football. But what I wouldn’t let myself realize was that there are going to be fans like that from every team, and now I look like that guy from this team. I wasn’t trying to insult anyone with any of my comments, but I can see how I could look like an asshole when I look at the situation from the outside.
And broncfanstuckinsd, my bad for putting you on the spot. That wasn’t even you, it was someone else, who I’m not going to throw under the bus. From now on, I won’t be making any “game reaction” comments here or anywhere else until the morning after. Because when I have, it’s always been for the worse.
2-0.
by papigrande on
Sep 15, 2008 5:12 AM MDT
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Lets be fair
For the chargers to “lose” the game on an officiating mistake is going to be hard to swallow.
I know I’d need a few days to cool off on it and it is precisely why i wouldn’t even try and talk about it at the moment.
You end up going off half cocked, ranting and frothing at the mouth and yelling at people that are otherwise reasonable and well informed fans.
In the end i think most rationale people will sit down and realize that neither the officials or the NFL did it on purpose (as I’ve seen written on quite a few BB’s).
People make mistakes and equipment breaks (see london stock exchange last week).
Having watched sport for a long time in the end what goes around comes around and when i’m yelling about a “screwjob” at some point in the season just refer me back to this post :-)
by AlleyCat. on
Sep 15, 2008 5:18 AM MDT
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What goes around, comes around
The Broncos have been hosed by bad calls in the past (many note the Dante Hall kickoff return for a touchdown with at LEAST 5 illegal blocks as an example) and I’m sure that we’ll be hosed by more in the future. I also believe that SD has been the victim or recipient of bad calls.
What Goes Around, Comes Around
I’m sure sometime this season, we’ll get hosed by a bad call and SD will benefit from a bad call. I just hope it’s not Week 17 with the playoffs on the line!
"It's all over Fat Man" - Tom Jackson to John Madden 1977 AFC Championship Game
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by DesertBroncoFan on
Sep 16, 2008 1:27 PM MDT
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that game brought back memories
of the heartbbreaker that happened in 2006 i was at. Good thing this time Jay Cutler and the Broncos were able to drive down the field and score the winning points.
by broncoboy on Sep 14, 2008 9:32 PM MDT 0 recs
OMD, OMG!
I didn’t want the 2 point conversion. After the heart thumping play for the TD, pure fear turned into pure extacy. High fives all over the bar. Everyone was going nuts!
Then I see Shanny holding up the Hade Ashbury sign “two finger” OMG, I couldnt take it. First from one play to decide the game, now we had to face it AGAIN! I couldnt take it. I was ready to step outside for a smoke, but wait a minute. I can take it….ok…go for it (seconds later)…. OMG, OMG, They did it! They did it! They did it!
Please Denver, take it easy, I am a heart patient after all.
"If Denver beats us, I'll walk back to Detroit" - Alex Karras
by Denver Diehard on Sep 14, 2008 9:39 PM MDT 0 recs
I haven't felt this way at the end of a game since John Elway!
"If Denver beats us, I'll walk back to Detroit" - Alex Karras
by Denver Diehard on Sep 14, 2008 9:40 PM MDT 0 recs
Great wrap-up Guru
I couldn’t have said it any better. Awesome, exciting game, and I’m just glad we won.
by hai17 on Sep 14, 2008 10:31 PM MDT 0 recs
funny game
and that it is.
On to next week…………..and then beyond.
13-3 baby!
Broncos broncos everywhere and all the league did blink,
Broncos broncos everywhere think moldy faiders stink!
by Mike Clark on Sep 14, 2008 10:41 PM MDT 0 recs
WAIT so wats up with the bailly int?
would it have been overturned??
what do u mean unreviewable, if it was unreviewable then why did the officials allow the chargers to challenge it??
SO.. what should have been the call??
by RiG on Sep 14, 2008 11:02 PM MDT 0 recs
replay equipment down
my understanding was that the replay equipment was somehow not working on the bailey int and so the call could not be challenged not to rule, but rather a temporary equipment failure.
by bushwah on
Sep 14, 2008 11:08 PM MDT
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Unreviewable
a pass that is ruled “simultaneous possession” by both the receiver and the defender (as that play would most assuredly have been) is a non reviewable play, by rule. There are many such possible plays that simply aren’t reviewable, and where the call on the field is the end of the argument.
In this instance, Norv was allowed to challenge, because the play was ruled an interception on the field. He could challenge that, but if they had been able to review, they would have had to rule that it was a simultaneous catch.
I don’t know whether they would have reversed the INT call to “silmultaneous catch”, or if they would have required that the call on the field be upheld. In my mind it could logically go either way, but I lean towards the offense keeps the ball on an overturned INT call.
Mountains, forest, sea: these render man fierce, but yet do not destroy the man.
by styg50 on
Sep 14, 2008 11:30 PM MDT
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I believe the rule is..
From what I understand, if the play had been reviewed, Ed would have seen that it was a simultaneous catch, which by rule is not reviewable so the interception would have stood even if the play was reviewed. That is what one of the sportscasters said anyway.
by BroncoinOCCali on Sep 14, 2008 11:27 PM MDT 0 recs
I think
the NFl will need to clarify the difference between:
1. A simultaneous catch ruling cannot be overturned
and
2. A play cannot be overturned into a simultaneous catch ruling.
Mountains, forest, sea: these render man fierce, but yet do not destroy the man.
by styg50 on
Sep 14, 2008 11:34 PM MDT
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Crazy Day and my 2 cents
That game was nuts. Here’s my thoughts for what they are worth. First let me state for the record that I am and always will bleed orange and blue. I’ll take the win, but in my honest opinion our team didn’t deserve it…not because of the INT, not because of the bad fumble call, but because of our poor D and ST. That defense has got to figure something out. And we have one of the best ST coaches in the league…why don’t we play like it??? No one should run for a TD on our kickoffs or punts. Our D looked like swiss cheese out there. I know San Diego is a very talented team, but there is no way they should have been able to hang that many points on us. The coaches seriously need to sit down and figure out how to address the defense. We can win a TON of games with that offense…they absolutely are on fire…but we don’t stand a decent chance in the playoffs with the defense playing like that. When we go to SD at the end of the season, we need to lay a thumping on them real good…same offensive performance, better defense and ST and the score would have been 38 – 17.
by sadaraine on Sep 14, 2008 11:55 PM MDT 0 recs
I know what you are tryng to say...
but I can’t say the Broncos “didn’t DESERVE to win”. They played their a$$es off against a very, very good team, even with all the injuries. Then, to fall behind, come back and then convert the 2-point conversion, I think the Broncos completely deserve it. It is unfortunate, but the Broncos gave the Chargers a chance to win the game and they couldn’t get it done.
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by TheSportsGuru on
Sep 15, 2008 5:06 AM MDT
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We'll agree to disagree
I know the effort was there from the team, but I stick with my statement. The defense didn’t stop anyone and we had 2 silly turnovers that should have ended the game (the ball slipping out isn’t Cutler’s fault probably, but silly nonetheless). I think the win was good for Denver and I think this game will make a good boost to our morale and definitely will provide some excellent insights on how to get the team better. Like I said, I’ll take it.
by sadaraine on
Sep 15, 2008 9:32 AM MDT
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It's a matter of symantics
I think we feel the same way, we just use two different words. Bad officiating, in my opinion, doesn’t mean one team deserves it more than the other. Were the Broncos “fortunate” to win?? Absolutely.
The important thing is the game result goes in the left column, not the right. Now we need to get ready for the Saints…
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by TheSportsGuru on
Sep 15, 2008 10:09 AM MDT
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I'll buy that for a dollar
Yes…well put. Bring on the saints!
by sadaraine on
Sep 15, 2008 11:34 AM MDT
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You say Denver didn't deserve to win?
Well then; I ask who did? The only other team out there was San Diego as far as I know, and they certainly didn’t deserve to win, so who did?
The only, and I mean ONLY Team that deserves to win is the team that scores the most points. Should we say: Because Denver did a poor job tackling and covering to let San Diego score almost as much as Denver, then hell, SD must deserve to win, so lets give it to them.
If Denver didn’t make two (possible game ending) plays by scoring a TD and a Conversion back to back, nobody would be bitching about the fumble that never was. This is the way it is and there’s nothing anyone can do about it. Denver DID deserve the win, so lets go on.
And about that fumble……. The Ref blew the call by blowing the whistle early. It’s not Denvers fault. I remember games which Denver played that the same exact call went against them. Seattle vs Denver comes to mind, no I can’t remember the year but I do remember the play. It happens in this league from time to time. Not every game, but it won’t be the last time this year that a untimely whistle stops a play that should keep going.
I haven’t heard any Charger fans bitching that Rivers threw over the line of scrimmage last week to set up a touchdown vs the Panthers. The Refs blew that call too, and it kept SD in the game.
The bottom line for San Diego, is that they lost two games in a row in a do or die situation and they failed. They failed to stop the Touchdown with 2 seconds left against Carolina and lost. They failed to stop Cutler throwing a TD and a Conversion back to back and they lost that game to.
Denver did what they had to do to win the game and San Diego didn’t do enough. The Broncos most certainly do deserve this win because they earned it.
"If Denver beats us, I'll walk back to Detroit" - Alex Karras
by Denver Diehard on
Sep 15, 2008 10:06 AM MDT
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Deserved, lucky, call it what you will
I disagree with them “earning” it. They got very very lucky. I absolutely remember the Broncos vs Seahawks game you are talking about…I don’t remember specifically when as that was awhile back, but I’m with you. It is being on the other end of games like that that make me feel disappointed with how this game came out.
When I step out of my Broncos shoes (which is a hard thing to do) my unbiased opinion as a football fan would be that San Diego deserved the win more than we did. It is a rotten how they lost. If this were say Jacksonville vs Arizona instead of SD vs Denver, I would totally say that Jacksonville got robbed.
My main point is this: I’ll take the win any day, but we SHOULD have shut them down. I’m upset that we let a kickoff get returned and I’m upset that Diarrhea-Mouth-Rivers was gunslinging all over the field on our defense like he was up against a college team. The Defense and ST should take the offense out to dinner this week cause Cutler, Marshall, and the rest of the O bailed them out.
That being said another thing that comes to mind is that great teams find a way to win…its awful early in the season, but we have the makings in the work. Just give me half a pass rush and some kickoff containment that doesn’t include Champ saving our bacon 25% of the time. :)
by sadaraine on
Sep 15, 2008 11:43 AM MDT
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Seriously....
You said:
I disagree with them "earning" it.
Denver scored and put 39 points on the Board. They earned every one of them. There were no gifts. On the other side, the Denver defense gave 21 points away as easy scores for the Chargers. San Diego gave nothing to Denver. Cutler and Co. earned every point they scored.
"If Denver beats us, I'll walk back to Detroit" - Alex Karras
by Denver Diehard on
Sep 15, 2008 9:23 PM MDT
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I with you
Denver made the plays when they counted on offense. Saying a team didnt deserve to win is ludacris. I am really shocked at all the negatvity I have read with Denver fans. THEY WON. Bottom line. When you look at the standings it reads Denver 2-0-0, and every other team in the West UNDERNETH the Broncos. I cant add onto what DD just said. Another point if SD deserved to win they would have stopped Denver on 4th and goal OR on the duece attempted. Guess what they did not!
Though the end is near, Still I am not sorry
by broncfanstuckinsd on
Sep 15, 2008 12:41 PM MDT
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Love the debate
It is good to get differing opinions and I respect all I see here. I haven’t given the posts a thorough read, but on this one I didn’t see a lot of negativity at all on this post which is one reason I wanted to throw my opinion out there.
by sadaraine on
Sep 15, 2008 4:43 PM MDT
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That is one thing...
You won’t see alot of is negativity…We pride ourselves on being a positive Broncos community!
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by TheSportsGuru on
Sep 15, 2008 7:42 PM MDT
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And the thing is the two point conversion
was the same play as the TD and we still scored.
"It doesn't dissipate" ~ Mike Shanahan
by weazel on
Sep 15, 2008 7:03 PM MDT
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Hochuli didn't make San Diego lose
They lost because their defense and offense was ineffective in the first half. That is all there is to it, now they need to move on.
by Arctic Bronco on Sep 14, 2008 11:57 PM MDT 0 recs
That two-point conversion was perfect
and the reason I love Shanahan as our coach. He has the guts to make those calls. I was talking about what to they would do with my buddies during that drive. There wasn’t a doubt in my mind he was going to go for the win. It was the perfect choice because they were playing on house money after that call. I also would rather deal with that than a coin toss in OT that didn’t go our way last year.
I think I have this correct when I say Cutler’s 4th qtr/OT game winning drives is now at 4.
"It doesn't dissipate" ~ Mike Shanahan
by weazel on Sep 15, 2008 12:37 AM MDT 0 recs
Which ties him with Phyllis.
That’s ok with me. We’re playing for wins, not media publicity....HT 9/11/08
by firstfan on
Sep 15, 2008 11:13 AM MDT
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We were 2-0 last year
Yes, the offense is unstoppable, but the defense still has big holes.
Why was Paymah on Chambers in the second half?! It’s time to revisit the Foxy vs. Paymah question.
Game 3 last year we were exposed by the Jags, and it was all downhill from there. I think it’s different this year: Denver 49 New Orleans 38
by xandervan on Sep 15, 2008 1:03 AM MDT 0 recs
there is no foxy vs. Paymah question.
At least in my mind. Yes Foxy was the better corner, but Paymah is the better physical matchup, who relies on coaches to put him in a position to make plays. But we only got a sixth rounder for Foxy. That tells me we wouldn’t have gotten squat out of Paymah on the market. But with contract problems for them ahead, knowledge that we will lose one of them for sure anyways, and the value of each and every critical roster spot on this young team, someone had to go. They chose Foxy, in order to get something of value in return, instead of just cutting Paymah, who has some upside.
Slowik needs to do a better job of putting Paymah in a position for success, such as bumping receivers at the line, where Paymah’s physical size can help the team. Right now Slowik is trying to sit Paymah on particular depth of routes, and it looks like they are guessing wrong, with Paymah pretty routinely allowing medium routes to push him back with that buffer zone he has established. Part of it is compensating for a possible weakness in Paymah’s game (staying with a deep route). I have a take coming up, on some adjustments I think this defense can make to be successful going forward, but I also think there is zero chance that we will see it happen. As bad as our defense seemed to play in this game, we still won. Coaches can be funny that way.
Mountains, forest, sea: these render man fierce, but yet do not destroy the man.
by styg50 on
Sep 15, 2008 7:19 AM MDT
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I miss foxy,but...
Paymah or foxy should never have been lined up to cover their number 1 receiver.
by Sneaky Sean on
Sep 15, 2008 11:37 AM MDT
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believe it or not
Chambers is their #2. Paymah comes in in the nickle and instead of covering the slot guy, as is common with most nickle backs, he covers the left (his right) WR. Bly covers the slot because the team feels he has the best hips and changes direction the best, so should be given the responsibility of covering the guy that can bend his routes both ways.
I honestly think that V.Jackson and Chambers are interchangeable at this point in their career, but having both on the field at the sametime can create mismatches for sure.
This was one game where putting Bly back on the outside probably would have been a good defensive adjustment.
Mountains, forest, sea: these render man fierce, but yet do not destroy the man.
by styg50 on
Sep 15, 2008 11:42 AM MDT
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Offensive
So our offense is great…somehow i just knew when we got the ball back it would be ok. We needed a break to pull this one off but WOW! The D needs to play up to its capability; unbelievably the secondary does not seem to have gelled as well with the new players.I think they are a few games away and todays game showed there is still work to be done.
XDV – this year is different; i agree about the secondary questions. if we make it through this opening schedule gauntlet with a winning record we should be headed for the playoffs.
by Nitz on Sep 15, 2008 1:17 AM MDT 0 recs
The end of our schedule
is starting to shape up as tough as well… Carolina, Buffalo, SD again, Tampa Bay.
Further proof that strength of schedule in the preseason means diddly. We stole a gmae yesterday, but we won’t get the division crown without earning our stripes, that’s for sure…
Mountains, forest, sea: these render man fierce, but yet do not destroy the man.
by styg50 on
Sep 15, 2008 7:21 AM MDT
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I'll take it.
We should have never been in that position and then the Chargers should have never let us score. It was a flip and we won.
Bic Mac, Casino Royale, and the Slot Machine.
by broncodude793 on Sep 15, 2008 8:29 AM MDT 0 recs
"cut" block
how about that block by cutler. directing traffict then boom gives more time for more yards. sweet.
by Bill_Intense on Sep 15, 2008 11:05 AM MDT 0 recs
that was awesome
jay was pumping his fists after selvin? reversed the field. then he sees a would-be tackler and nails him. gotta love this guy. as far as the fumble, hercules stated this: “The rules of instant replay do not permit that you award the ball to the other team.” sorry, but it’s about time this crap went our way. too bad. also of note is this statement from shanny: ’Jeremy’s doing a heck of a job with the play-calling, changing things up, great relationship with the quarterbacks, studying, growing,". i posed this question a few days ago, and was told mike was still calling the plays. i sensed something different, and now we know for sure. he went on to praise dennison’s work with the o-line, and helping script the running plays to start the first and 3rd quarters. this is a brave new era for the broncos, and we are a pass-first team, at least for now. and that is what we should be. if we could run the ball consistently, we would have put this game away. that will come. the 2-point conversion i was pretty sure of when we started the drive. aside from the coin toss issue, it was our defense’s poor play in the second half that made the call. i agreed, and was hoping for, the conversion. smart move, and yes, ballsy. some minor complaints out of a huge win, a heart-attack, and an epic contest:
1. 4-man rush. we need to blitz to get pressure. moss is on the bench. we will be picked apart by good qb’s, and river’s perfect lob to chambers over bailey is the proof. he shouldn’t have had the time. and, as predicted, paymah is this year’s roc alexander. pressure will help him out, too, but i’m ready to put the rookie in already. at least he’ll get some experience, and he’ll be with us next season. foxworth’s release was about next season anyway, right? maybe jmfw can make a play, or maybe his guy will be wide- open. but he is open, anyway, so why not try the switch?
2. st’s. special teams guru, better players on st’s, yada, yada, yada. champ bailey has saved 2 td’s already, and couldn’t save 3. this is a huge problem. i’m willing to give them time to improve, but much like paymah, i’ve seen enough. give me average, that’s all. do something.
3. punching it in. while it’s hard to argue our excellent red-zone success this season, the fact that we were throwing the ball from the 2(picked), and 1(fumble), coulda, woulda, shoulda cost us the game. i was screaming my head off. if you can’t punch it in a yard or two in 3 downs, there is a real problem. i don’t understand why pittman, hillis, or even hall didn’t get to seal the deal there, and that is the danger of passing. hell, 3 qb sneaks would have done it. RUN IT IN
great win, but we certainly have some work to do, as darren sproles pointed out. as long as we keep getting w’s while we improve in certain areas, one cannot complain. we have 2 winnable games coming up(saints are banged up), and then 3 playoff teams from a year ago that should really test our meddle. i haven’t been this ecstatic, yet frustrated, in quite a while. we should have destroyed that team yesterday, yet they dominated us last season. i’ll take it. and it’s sure nice to know you’re going to be in any game with an offense clicking like this one, and pass-protection like jay is getting. i just wish we could help him out a little more, i feel bad for the guy. on to the saints, and 3-0!
hear me, perpetrators of bread crime, your punishment is at hand.
taste my blintzkrieg!
by davecheffy on Sep 15, 2008 11:32 PM MDT 0 recs