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Denver Broncos 39 - San Diego Chargers 38 - Making The Grade

One last look at the Chargers game before moving full throttle to Week 3's Home matchup with the Saints. We'll talk much more about that, but it is time for this week's edition of  "Making The Grade" where I will grade the Broncos performance from the day before.  The most important "grade" is the one on the scoreboard, and for the Broncos this week it was another W.  What about the players performance?  Let's take a look....

QUARTERBACK
 

B

 

Jay Cutler -- 36/50 - 350 yds, 4 TD, 1 INT

It was another monster performance for Cutler.  He was on target all day long, and to throw 50 passes and complete 72% of them is simply amazing.  I can't, however, give Cutler anything better than a B because of the Red Zone pick.  That play could have easily cost the Broncos the game, had things turned out differently.  These things are going to happen with a young quarterback, however, and it is his effort at making a play every time he takes a snap that enables him to make 25 good plays before he makes 1 bad one.  The hope is he learns from it and doesn't repeat it.  Cutler knows this, and I am confident that we won;t see many more plays like this going forward.  As an offense, the Broncos are still rolling, and through two games the team has scored points on 13/19(68%) possessions, with 10/13(77%)scoring possessions resulting in touchdowns.

Star-divide

RUNNING BACK
 

B

Selvin Young - 8 carries, 78 yards, 9.8 ypc

The final stats are right where the Broncos want to be - 24 carries / 145 yards / 6.0 ypc - but the running game still needs some fine tuning.  Take away a 49-yard run by Selvin Young, and the Broncos stat line looked like this - 23 carries / 96 yards / 4.1 ypc -- There were times in the game, specifically in the 3rd quarter, that the Broncos wanted to run to "shorten" the game but were unable to.  That lead to a couple 3rd and long plays that the Broncos were unable to convert, thus allowing the Chargers back into the game.  The running game will continue to take a back seat to a pass heavy offense, but the Broncos need to find a way to dial it up when they want to kill some clock.  Perhaps when Ryan Torain returns??

WIDE RECEIVER
 

A+

  Brandon Marshall - 18 rec. / 166 yards / 1 TD / 9.2 avg

For the second consecutive week I can't go any other direction than A+.  Every time a play needed to be made, Cutler and his corp of receivers was there to make it.  Marshall's performance, considering he didn't practice for the week during his suspension, was epic and catapults him to one of the elite receivers in this league.  I keep repeating it, but the fact that I am still in awe of what I saw while I was in Denver will keep it in the forefront of my mind all season.  There isn't a DB in the Nationla Football League that can cover him.  No One.

Marshall wasn't the only one, as Eddie Royal made to two biggest catches of the game, on virtually the same play.   His little "sugar" move to get open in the endzone was well beyond his years, and Royal's ability to hang on to 2 Cutler laser beams back-to-back is as awesome as it gets.

TIGHT END
 

A

Tony Scheffler - 6 rec. / 64 yards / 2 TD / 10.7 ypc

Obviously the tights ends had a solid game in the passing game.  Everyone associated with the Broncos' aerial attack firing on all cylinders.  Scheffler had a solid game, making up for the dropped TD pass last week.  Daniel Graham also had a couple receptions and Nate Sexy got involved as well.  Where the group cemented their 'A' was with solid blocking, especially by Graham.  The tight end play is becoming more and more consistent and it looks like Tony Scheffler is going to have a huge season.

OFFENSIVE LINE
 

A

Officially, the Chargers were credited with a sack, but for most of the afternoon the O-Line did a wonderful job against a solid pass rush, even without Shawne Merriman.  I focused much of my attention on Ryan Clady and form what I saw this kid is going to be a star.  Everything you have heard about his footwork is 100% accurate.  For his size, his moves better than anyone I have ever seen.  Ryan Harris was just as strong on the other side.  One small downer would be the run blocking.  In an interesting twist of irony, the Broncos have an O-Line group that pass blocks better than run-blocks, which makes sense when looking at the personnel on the outside.  Clady and Harris played in Pro Style, pass-happy offenses, which clearly explains their strength as pass blockers.  The run-blocking will come as they get more comfortable in the Broncos' system, but for now, the Broncos are going with what works.
DEFENSIVE LINE
 

D

This group has got to start to improve if the Broncos are going to success like those of you living in "La-La Land" say they will.  Having a high powered offense is almost as much of a curse as it is a blessing.  You can see how teams are going to try and attack the Broncos.  Teams know that the Broncos are focused on stopping the run so what do they do?  Spread the Broncos out and throw the ball all over the field.  That shows the other vulnerability of the D-Line, the inability to get consistent pressure from the front four.  This allows opposing quarterbacks to have all day to throw, and like I've said in the past, give any QB in the NFL 5 seconds to throw and he is going to beat you.  This group, in whatever rotation is on the field, needs to get to the quarterback.  Perhaps a Jarvis Moss sighting is in order??
LINEBACKER
 

C-

I may be a little lenient with the C-, but I thought Boss Bailey had a pretty steady game, all things considered.  D.J. was also solid, though he wasn't the impact player in this game I was hoping for.  Alot of that could have been what the Chargers were doing on offense, but D.J. is now getting paid ALOT OF MONEY to be an impact player on defense.  D.J. will be fine, however.  The guy I want to know about is Nate Webster, who disappeared for long stretches during the game.  Again, your MLB cannot make alot of plays when the offense is throwing the ball all over the field, but Webster just didn't seem to be visiable.  I have always liked Webster's energy adn what he brings to a defense in spurts.  The question is, can he do it week in, week out.

DEFENSIVE BACKS
 

C

Sometimes, you have to tip your cap to the guys on the other side of the line of scrimmage who get paid to play football as well.  as much as I dislike Phil Rivers, I have to admit he played a solid football game.  The few times the Broncos did bring some pressure, Rivers was able to move around in the pocket and deliver the ball accurately and timely.  On the deep pass to Chris Chambers, it is easy to say the Champ Bailey was toasted, but to be fair to Champ, the pass was dropped perfectly to Chambers in stride.  There is no defense to the perfectly thrown pass.  Like Brandon Marshall, Chris Chambers is a big receiver with freakish talent.  There is no shame when that guy makes some plays.  The Broncos did do a solid job in the Red Zone, and the tackling by the DB's was solid as well. 
SPECIAL TEAMS
 

D

A year ago the Broncos had a big lead, on the road, against a team they should beat.  What happened?  A kick return for a TD allowed their opponent to feel like they were still in the game.  The Broncos went on to lose that football game.  The same thing nearly happened yesterday when Darren Sproles returned a kickoff 103 yards for a score right after the Broncos took a 21-3 lead.  Who knows how the game turns out if the Broncos defense, which was playing pretty well at the time, were allowed to take the field with an 18 point lead.  As it was, the Broncos responded with a field goal of their own, but the game from that point never felt quite the same.

On the plus side, I thought Brett Kern was solid in the punting game, and Matt Prater did a good job kicking off.  To be fair to Prater, 80% of the return guys in the NFL kneel when the ball is kicked 4 yards deep.  Sproles is an exception and it ost the Broncos.  It was nice to see Prater drill his first long-range field goal, a 52 yarder that ended up pplaying a huge role in the game.

COACHING
 

A+

Two weeks in a row Mike Shanahan is on top of his game.  Of Course, having the talent around you to be able to utilize a game plan is a huge part  I said it before that I was 100% behind the decision to go for two, and the message that decision sends to a football team.  No one has a better feel for the pulse of the team than the Head Coach, and Shanahan is no different.  He knew what winning the game in the way the Broncos did could mean for the rest of the year.  The gamble was well worth the risk, and the payoff moving forward will be huge.
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C
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Bottom line for me. They beat the Chargers - A+ for the week!

It’s hard to believe a guy can throw for 350 yards, 4TDs and 1INT would be graded out at a B. He completed 36 passes out of 50..that my friends is 72% completion percentage. I understand the pick in the red zone, but maybe an A- or B+ might be worthy. That pick is really the only black mark on a rather amazing day for our young QB. The “fumble” didn’t count so we can ignore that. lol

Man, last year I despised the similar series you ran like this Guru…this year its fast becoming my favorite!! Let’s keep the dream alive against the Saints!

If God is not a Bronco fan, then WHY are sunsets Blue and Orange? - Jon Tollerud 5/22/08

I got a high ankle sprain in college and it still hurts! ~ TSG 8/13/08

by Zappa on Sep 15, 2008 12:56 PM MDT   0 recs

PS

We have some major holes on defense….but I think our offense will be good enough to keep this ship afloat into the playoffs.

If God is not a Bronco fan, then WHY are sunsets Blue and Orange? - Jon Tollerud 5/22/08

I got a high ankle sprain in college and it still hurts! ~ TSG 8/13/08

by Zappa on Sep 15, 2008 12:56 PM MDT to parent up   0 recs

Did you read my comments on Cutler??

I said it was a monster performance…I mentioned the 72%. But, I bet you a Brew that the Broncos graded Cutler lower because of the pick. I am taking a critical eye, because the goal is to win the Super Bowlllll

-TSG

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by TheSportsGuru on Sep 15, 2008 12:59 PM MDT to parent up   0 recs

I did read the comments, I was just giving my own contradictory thoughts.

I wasn’t picking on ya. Does it help if I say I completely agreed with every other grade you handed out? Except I would have graded our DLine an F. lol

I’ll get you to drink some of my koolaid before this year is finished. I promise!

If God is not a Bronco fan, then WHY are sunsets Blue and Orange? - Jon Tollerud 5/22/08

I got a high ankle sprain in college and it still hurts! ~ TSG 8/13/08

by Zappa on Sep 15, 2008 1:05 PM MDT to parent up   0 recs

Let's say I would have given him an A-

Realistically, I think a B+ is fair because he showed the poise of a veteran and led his team to the promised land in spite of his bad throw.

I wonder how many A or B grades would have been given to John elway from any of those 4th quarter comebacks.

If God is not a Bronco fan, then WHY are sunsets Blue and Orange? - Jon Tollerud 5/22/08

I got a high ankle sprain in college and it still hurts! ~ TSG 8/13/08

by Zappa on Sep 15, 2008 1:08 PM MDT to parent up   0 recs

Again missing the forest for the trees

Yes, bad throw, but rather harsh to give him anything other than an A-, he made great throws all day, spread the balls around, and was money when he had to be. I really thought after the third quarter, whoever had the ball last would win, luckily that didn’t happen, but it was one of those games that neither defense was going to stop anyone. I am just glad the Chargers didn’t have any timeouts at the end of the ball game, or I could of seen them getting a late FG to win.

"How do the berries taste Ralph?" Bart Simpson
"They taste like burning." Ralph Wigam
Broncoman

by Broncoman on Sep 15, 2008 1:39 PM MDT to parent up   0 recs

I'm just glad you guys are being realistically critical of the performance...

Over at ‘Silver and Black Pride’ Russel got a B+ rating after going 6-17, 55 yards 0TD.

by Jay Elway on Sep 15, 2008 1:42 PM MDT to parent up   0 recs

Higher standards

Jay grades out according to what a Superbowl winning QB will be expected to do, Jamakus Fail grades out according to what a pending draft bust needs to do.

Mountains, forest, sea: these render man fierce, but yet do not destroy the man.

by styg50 on Sep 15, 2008 1:46 PM MDT to parent up   0 recs

lol, yes much higher standards.

I don’t drink nearly as much koolaid as those guys do!

If God is not a Bronco fan, then WHY are sunsets Blue and Orange? - Jon Tollerud 5/22/08

I got a high ankle sprain in college and it still hurts! ~ TSG 8/13/08

by Zappa on Sep 15, 2008 1:59 PM MDT to parent up   0 recs

Plus

in their kool-aid is some alkiehal

Though the end is near, Still I am not sorry

by broncfanstuckinsd on Sep 15, 2008 2:02 PM MDT to parent up   0 recs

the fumbles too

The interception wasn’t as disturbing to me as the two fumbles. Interceptions do happen, that one was a DB crossing underneath in a tough spot. Certainly could have been avoided, but kinda falls in the `shit happens’ category for me. The fumbles on the other hand were fairly inexcusable and I think add up to a letter grade for me.

by bushwah on Sep 15, 2008 2:08 PM MDT to parent up   0 recs

Did you read my comments on Cutler??

I said it was a monster performance…I mentioned the 72%. But, I bet you a Brew that the Broncos graded Cutler lower because of the pick. I am taking a critical eye, because the goal is to win the Super Bowlllll

-TSG

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by TheSportsGuru on Sep 15, 2008 1:00 PM MDT to parent up   0 recs

He put the ball on the ground twice

in addition to the pick. The last fumble would have lost the game if the ref hadn’t erred. B.

"In the empty spaces - lacunae, vacuums, pauses, voids, black holes - new things begin. We are born anew from the unexplored space, the badlands, the outlaw territory." - Sam Keen

by spock on Sep 15, 2008 1:44 PM MDT to parent up   0 recs

I was at total peace

when cutler fumbled that ball. I was like “We just lost. It is over.” and was already working my blood pressure and heart rate back down.

Then straight back into frenzy when hochuli made the announcement… “WTF???!?!?!??”

Mountains, forest, sea: these render man fierce, but yet do not destroy the man.

by styg50 on Sep 15, 2008 1:48 PM MDT to parent up   0 recs

I almost mirrored that reaction. I had resolved to lose the game and almost turned it off

Holy Crap am I glad I rarely turn off a Bronco game until I see 0:00…thank you Elway for that!

If God is not a Bronco fan, then WHY are sunsets Blue and Orange? - Jon Tollerud 5/22/08

I got a high ankle sprain in college and it still hurts! ~ TSG 8/13/08

by Zappa on Sep 15, 2008 2:00 PM MDT to parent up   0 recs

I watched the second half up until the fumble then I walked away...

and then the Broncos won.

Am I a jinx?

To have striven, to have made the effort, to have been true to certain ideals - this alone is worth the struggle. - William Penn

Tom Arnold, of Fox Sports Net's Best Damn Sports Show Period, said this about Warren Sapp: "Hey, Warren, the Raiders signed you to a seven-year deal. I guess Bill Callahan was right --- they are the dumbest team in America."

by Philistine21 on Sep 15, 2008 5:14 PM MDT to parent up   0 recs

NO

U just need more faith baby!

by metalman5050 on Sep 15, 2008 5:16 PM MDT to parent up   0 recs

lol

good point! Gotta hang in there Philistine! Nobody here is a jinx on the Broncos!

Mountains, forest, sea: these render man fierce, but yet do not destroy the man.

by styg50 on Sep 15, 2008 5:19 PM MDT to parent up   0 recs

As long as I watched they stank..

then I walk away and they get a lucky break and win. Coincidence?

To have striven, to have made the effort, to have been true to certain ideals - this alone is worth the struggle. - William Penn

Tom Arnold, of Fox Sports Net's Best Damn Sports Show Period, said this about Warren Sapp: "Hey, Warren, the Raiders signed you to a seven-year deal. I guess Bill Callahan was right --- they are the dumbest team in America."

by Philistine21 on Sep 15, 2008 5:19 PM MDT to parent up   0 recs

Depends on your time zone

It might have just been delayed good luck! ;)

Mountains, forest, sea: these render man fierce, but yet do not destroy the man.

by styg50 on Sep 15, 2008 5:25 PM MDT to parent up   0 recs

WELL, THAT BEING THE CASE THEN, PLEASE STOP WATCHING THE GAMES!

LOL! Who else walked away and then OUR guys CAME BACK?

by metalman5050 on Sep 15, 2008 5:27 PM MDT to parent up   0 recs

guilty

although I never turned the game off. Just walked away from the PC and MHR so I could focus my energy on helping them win :)

by MattR on Sep 15, 2008 5:31 PM MDT to parent up   0 recs

Their offense

Their offense would definitely deserve a B+ or A-. They played stellar, aside from a few missed 3rd conversions and that interception in the red zone. Defensively, they played very well in the red zone, but overall pretty horrible against those big plays. I’d give the defense a C- at best.

by muellator on Sep 15, 2008 1:11 PM MDT   0 recs

My take.

Offense “A”; how can you give anything else to a unit that scores 39 points? Even the best game has some clunker plays. Defense “D”; the best that can be said is that they didn’t lose it. Special teams “C”; the touchdown was a game changer that let them up off the mat but everything else was good.

Average everything out and my overall grade has to be a “C”.

If this be Hell, let us make the most of it!

by Trinidad Jack on Sep 15, 2008 1:18 PM MDT   0 recs

My thoughts

Cutler – B+. 1 huge mistake and 1 that should have been. If not for “Early Whistle Ed” Cutler would have had 2 turnovers in the Red Zone late in the game. With the strides Cutler has taken in the off season, I expect these mistakes to happen every once in a while, but he will still have some growing pains every now and again. We won and otherwise Cutler had a great game, but those are 2 glaring mistakes that I can’t overlook.

WR – A+. Marshall and Royal might be the best WR combo in the league, they certainly have an argument to be up there. Stokely is back to his natural spot, so he shouldn’t wear down like last year. I don’t think I ever saw D-Jack on the field (that’s not a bad thing).

RBs – B. A pedestrian performance from the vaunted Denver running game. I would almost have Pittman #1 on the depth chart after the first 2 games, he just seems to want the tough yards more – we need 2 he gets 4. Selvin doesn’t look like he’s added any pounds from last year, maybe it will just show up in his durability over the season, but the way they are splitting carries, I’m not sure that it will make a difference. I think I saw Hillis only carry once, I don’t remember his blocking though.

TE – A+. Between blocking and catching we have the best TEs in the game.

OL – A. Passing protection is just awesome, especially with Clady and Harris as first year starting tackles. Run blocking needs some work, but it will come. I like seeing Lichensteiger as a blocking fullback and getting him some game experience.

Overall offensive grade – A. A couple of mistakes against a team that was in the AFCCG last year and a W.

Now we come to the Defense…

DL – D. A few holding flags should have been thrown on the SD OL, we got little pressure and just looked exactly like the cover your eyes defense last year.

LB – D. A bad angle taken by Nate Webster let Sproles get by him on that swing pass that went for a TD. I think I’d rather have Niko in there and be solid if slower to react. I see #58 chasing plays from behind way too much. I hope we spend our top pick on a Mike next year.

DB – B- Their jobs are made so much more difficult because of the play of the front 7. Bailey got beat on a perfectly thrown ball by Rivers, but made several good plays too. Didn’t really see Bly so that was good, but the Chargers went after Paymah big time, and it paid off. I’m wondering if Jack Williams will be seen by the end of the year as the nickel back.

Overall defense: D+ We need to get off the field on 3rd & long.

ST – C-. Prater needs to be booming kickoffs 8 yards deep at home like Kaeding was, but him nailing a 52 yarder was nice to see. Punting was solid. Kickoff coverage – UGH.

Coaching – A+. We’ve seen 2 weeks and can now say that “The Mastermind” has returned. Over the last 5 years, I was amazed at his coaching ability to get the most out of the offense with the players he had on the field. Now that he has all the weapons – look out league! I was nervous about the 2 point conversion only in the sense of the execution, not the call (not with the way our defense had been playing, we lose the coin toss, we lose the game).

Overall – B+ We beat a team that held us to 6 points over 2 games last year, while abusing our defense. Our team still has some work to do (namely on D and ST coverage), but we are light-years ahead of last year.

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by Darin H on Sep 15, 2008 1:25 PM MDT   1 recs

Djax was deactivated for the game

I think.

Hillis had a sweet cut block on the strongside of a play (broncos actually ran primarily strongside to Clady’s side this week. Whether that is a comment on Clady’s run-blocking, pass-blocking, or the SD pass rush on the left, i do not know.)

Love seeing licks10tigers(L10T anyone? No? ok.) gettig reps, by hook or by crook.

Mountains, forest, sea: these render man fierce, but yet do not destroy the man.

by styg50 on Sep 15, 2008 1:43 PM MDT to parent up   0 recs

Most teams runs strongside most of the time....

…for several reasons (in fact, SD breaks this trend more often than every other team).

For one, the strong side is where the TE is (extra run blocker). Second (little known factoid), the better run blockers on a team get the right side assignments, while the pass blocking guys typicaly get the left side assignments. Handoffs are also easier for a right handed QB to a right handed HB. All of this is so entrenched in football thinking, that teams (even the pros) don’t change up personnel to accomodate lefty QBs. The majority of runs (and the OL) will still orient to the right side (and the TE will typicaly line up there too, which defines the strong side).

"Greater is an army of sheep led by a lion, than an army of lions led by a sheep" Defoe

by hoosierteacher on Sep 15, 2008 2:10 PM MDT to parent up   0 recs

what I thought was odd

was that the TE lined up off of Clady. i didn’t see that at all in the preseason, and it wasn’t common in the fader game.

What do you estimate is an average for a team to reverse which side is the strongside in a game?

Mountains, forest, sea: these render man fierce, but yet do not destroy the man.

by styg50 on Sep 15, 2008 2:25 PM MDT to parent up   0 recs

I honestly don't know.

But I do remember reading that the first play (something like 95+%) is an inside run to the strongside (almost always the right side), for what that’s worth. : )

"Greater is an army of sheep led by a lion, than an army of lions led by a sheep" Defoe

by hoosierteacher on Sep 15, 2008 5:01 PM MDT to parent up   0 recs

Are you saying lines up, or including after a motion?

"Greater is an army of sheep led by a lion, than an army of lions led by a sheep" Defoe

by hoosierteacher on Sep 15, 2008 5:01 PM MDT to parent up   0 recs

lining up.

with no motion by the TE. It looked like a base formation for the game.

Mountains, forest, sea: these render man fierce, but yet do not destroy the man.

by styg50 on Sep 15, 2008 5:12 PM MDT to parent up   0 recs

I can live with that assessment.

If God is not a Bronco fan, then WHY are sunsets Blue and Orange? - Jon Tollerud 5/22/08

I got a high ankle sprain in college and it still hurts! ~ TSG 8/13/08

by Zappa on Sep 15, 2008 2:02 PM MDT to parent up   0 recs

on Webster

He also missed a tackle on Sproles on a long run. He came running in to fill the gap and ran right past Sproles who ran for about 20-30 yds (if I remember right). Had him right at the line, but whiffed.

"It's all over Fat Man" - Tom Jackson to John Madden 1977 AFC Championship Game

"I love your analysis of our team. Its kinda like watching a spider monkey trying to figure out a jar of peanuts.. you know whats going on.. you know whats in there, but to actually figure it out, is just a bit beyond your mental skills..."
- Bronco Dano

by DesertBroncoFan on Sep 16, 2008 10:55 AM MDT to parent up   0 recs

Webster also ran right by Sproles on the 66 yd TD late in the game

over pursue baby! no flying helmets today…to bad

If God is not a Bronco fan, then WHY are sunsets Blue and Orange? - Jon Tollerud 5/22/08

I got a high ankle sprain in college and it still hurts! ~ TSG 8/13/08

by Zappa on Sep 16, 2008 1:42 PM MDT to parent up   0 recs

I think anything higher than an F- (yes minus) is too high for the defense!!!

And why do people keep saying “we have one of the best special teams coaches in the league”? Because he’s been doing it for nineteen or twenty years? This guy needs to go…NOW!!!! Our special teams have been awful for years! This guy needs to be on the first train out of Denver. Having a good run defense means nothing if we are consistently burnt by wide open receivers. 2/3rds of this team looked flat out BAD on Sunday. We’re lucky to get a win and I’ll take it. But…

by UnarmingMermaid on Sep 15, 2008 1:41 PM MDT   0 recs

I am one of the guys who hasn't bailed on Scott o'brien

but I am wearing thin. I am waiting to see if this is a gelling problem with a completely rebuilt ST unit, or if he really isn’t getting his message instilled in these players. I’m running out of excuses for him…

Mountains, forest, sea: these render man fierce, but yet do not destroy the man.

by styg50 on Sep 15, 2008 1:45 PM MDT to parent up   0 recs

Isn't this just his second year with us?

No excuses, because I’m wearing thin too. I just don’t like bumping a coach once the season has started. A lot of upheavel. (Maybe STs isn’t as big of a deal for an STs guy at the pro level, I just don’t know).

But yeah, I’m almost out of excuses too. Coverage is pathetic. It’s telling that Bailey is having to bail us out in coverage. That’s not exceptable, having to risk him.

"Greater is an army of sheep led by a lion, than an army of lions led by a sheep" Defoe

by hoosierteacher on Sep 15, 2008 2:14 PM MDT to parent up   0 recs

I was thinking it's been longer than that...

…but maybe not. Either way, the STs looked bad…again!

by UnarmingMermaid on Sep 15, 2008 2:34 PM MDT to parent up   0 recs

I think he joined us when Bates did.

(Last year).

Either way, I’m having a hard time defending him.

"Greater is an army of sheep led by a lion, than an army of lions led by a sheep" Defoe

by hoosierteacher on Sep 15, 2008 5:02 PM MDT to parent up   0 recs

Champ has two stops

that would have gone for TDs this year already!

The first against the long return by the faders when they ran it back 58 yds and again against the chargers.

That can NOT be our answer to ST coverage!

"It's all over Fat Man" - Tom Jackson to John Madden 1977 AFC Championship Game

"I love your analysis of our team. Its kinda like watching a spider monkey trying to figure out a jar of peanuts.. you know whats going on.. you know whats in there, but to actually figure it out, is just a bit beyond your mental skills..."
- Bronco Dano

by DesertBroncoFan on Sep 16, 2008 10:58 AM MDT to parent up   0 recs

I would give it an F+

Granted they looked horrible the second half, which scares me because we have the Saints coming up with Bush being a better version of Sproles, but in all fairness, I think if we had not had the break down in the coverage of Sproles return, then we probably hold SD to maybe a FG or less there and that game would of been a rout since that return really energized that team.

"How do the berries taste Ralph?" Bart Simpson
"They taste like burning." Ralph Wigam
Broncoman

by Broncoman on Sep 15, 2008 1:46 PM MDT to parent up   0 recs

Of note on the special teams

After all this talk about how Niko was a special teams demon, I have yet to see it, we are paying a lot of money for a back-up MLB, who is not making many plays.

"How do the berries taste Ralph?" Bart Simpson
"They taste like burning." Ralph Wigam
Broncoman

by Broncoman on Sep 15, 2008 1:47 PM MDT to parent up   0 recs

On the TD return

he was in the 3rd wave, behind the wedgebusters and the first wave. He seemed to have recognized that the wedge absolutely crushed our wedgebusters, and sproles had cut to the left side of the field (sprole’s left). Niko pulled a nifty spin move to change directions, and then got hit in the back. Because he was spinning I don’t think the refs could call block in the back, but he effectively was taken out of the play by it.

He seems to be occupying a “Strong safety” role on STs, responsible for the vanguard, but expected to be attack.

Mountains, forest, sea: these render man fierce, but yet do not destroy the man.

by styg50 on Sep 15, 2008 1:53 PM MDT to parent up   0 recs

I think this is something

they do call, so if what you say is true it looks like not only our touchdown but also their touchdown was made possible by a missed call.

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by spock on Sep 16, 2008 8:17 AM MDT to parent up   0 recs

Every team has these types of games...

shootouts rarely are indicative of overall defensive weaknesses throughout the season. We dominated the Raiders defensively last week…this game(hindsight being 20/20) had shootout written all over it. The 64-6 thumping in two games last year, the frustration, the anger….

Both teams came into this game expecting to dominate. Well they did, just one-sided like. The better team won…period. ;)

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by Zappa on Sep 15, 2008 2:04 PM MDT to parent up   0 recs

We did not "dominate the Raiders defensively"!!!

The Raiders moved the ball with relative ease until they did something stupid to stop themselves. Russell missed several wide open receivers and their RBs did pretty much whatever they wanted.

by UnarmingMermaid on Sep 15, 2008 2:33 PM MDT to parent up   0 recs

I was there man....the Raiders offense was being dominated

Physically and Emotionally. I could see it plainly on their faces. Sure they missed a couple of wide open plays, but a big reason for that was because of the mental edge the Broncos D had over the Raider Offense.

Their RBs did nothing really. They averaged about 3.6 yards per carry, until that ONE big run in the 4th quarter by Justin Fargas that broke for 40+ yards. ONE play. When the game was essentially over.

Look what happened this week…Raiders ran for like 300 yards rushing. We dominated them except for one play. Now the Chargers Offense was another story…they dominated US. lol

If God is not a Bronco fan, then WHY are sunsets Blue and Orange? - Jon Tollerud 5/22/08

I got a high ankle sprain in college and it still hurts! ~ TSG 8/13/08

by Zappa on Sep 15, 2008 2:51 PM MDT to parent up   0 recs

Have you watched the replay of the game?

The Raiders were able to run on us early and late. I understand that they had a big 4th quarter run that accounted for a lot of their yards…however, they also muffed a reverse that subtracted substantilly from their total yards. I agree the Raiders looked overwhelmed and outclassed; but they were still able to move the football on the ground. The early lead by the Broncos forced the Raiders to emphasize passing and move away from the running game, otherwise they would have had a lot more yards on the ground. And allowing 150 yards, regardless of circumstance, is not dominating. I’m honestly not trying to simply be contrarian…I’m trying to shed some light I what I percieve to be some major and concerning defensive deficiencies. That way the conversation can focus on how to fix it. First step is admitting you have a problem! ;-)

by UnarmingMermaid on Sep 15, 2008 3:08 PM MDT to parent up   0 recs

That sounds like a serious problem.

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by Broncoman on Sep 15, 2008 5:01 PM MDT to parent up   0 recs

You better get that checked out

call a nurse…

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by styg50 on Sep 15, 2008 5:13 PM MDT to parent up   0 recs

We held the Chargers to under 100 yards rushing....

As far as the Raider game…if they had been able to run at will then they wouldn’t have been shut out for 3 quarters. I am just saying, they didn’t run the ball effectively. That is a credit to our D dominating their O for much of the game. The big chunk of yardage that did come came on one play. 1/3 of their total yards rushing came on one play in the fourth quarter when the score was like 41-7.

The Chargers ran for under a 100 yards…its the first time we’ve held them under 100 in 4 games. Sure LT was “hurt”, he still ran the ball 10 times…for 26 yards.

I guess its all about perception. I sensed Broncos domination on D at the game, so did most of the Raider fans around me. I heard more than a few, “How can you let the Broncos dominate?” Minus the obscenities. lol

If God is not a Bronco fan, then WHY are sunsets Blue and Orange? - Jon Tollerud 5/22/08

I got a high ankle sprain in college and it still hurts! ~ TSG 8/13/08

by Zappa on Sep 15, 2008 3:37 PM MDT to parent up   0 recs