The Good News and the Bad News and the Good News
The Broncos are 2-0. They lead the NFL in offense. They lead the NFL in scoring. Denver though, is a young team still learning how to put games away and win in tough situations.
The following list isn’t meant to be a buzz-kill, it is meant to highlight things that have developed during the last two games and things that prior to the season starting, are points that most of us would have pegged as "something to watch" on Sundays. Let’s take a look at our progress.
Good News:
Red Zone Scoring
Albeit a small sample size (2 games), the Broncos have not only improved but imposed their will in the Red Zone. They have scored a TD 80% of the time (8 of 10 trips) they’ve reached the Red Zone this season. Last season, they scored a TD 49% of the time. Denver has scored 4 TD’s through the air and 4 TD’s on the ground (in the Red Zone – Denver has 2 other passing TD’s that came from outside 20 yards). Last season, Denver scored 10 rushing TD’s total and one of those was Cutler’s. Denver hasn’t been above the 60% TD mark since 2005, when they earned a shot to play for the Super Bowl. Denver is ranked #2 in the NFL in TD percentage so far in 2008.
Bad News:
2 (potential) Red Zone turnovers in the last 5:30
Lost in the adulation that comes from winning the first ESPN Classic game of the 2008 season is the fact that Denver’s star QB turned the ball over twice in the final minutes of the game on arguably the two most important offensive drives of the game. Cutler tried to get the ball to Eddie Royal on 3rd and 3 from the 4 yard line. Royal darted in, then up field into the back of the endzone, but Cutler floated the ball to where Royal would have been had he stopped or slowed his route on the "in" portion. It was a miscommunication, a poor pass, or both. It led to a touchdown and 2 point conversion for the Chargers. On the following drive, we all know what happened. The ball was slick but the bottom line is that it was fumbled and Cutler and Denver were the beneficiaries of a misjudgment by a referee. Not to say Cutler had a bad game. He threw the ball 50 times; 48 of those times he was just about perfect. The fumble was a freak play that frankly, you can NOT blame on the young QB. These things happen. BUT, the interception is a huge play and Jay needs to either run or throw that ball away. I felt as though he twisted during his throwing motion indicating to me that he knew he didn’t want to throw that ball or that he tried to change the speed, trajectory, or target of his throw mid-way through his motion. We need to remember that this is his second season and it won’t come without heartburn at times.
Good News:
DJ Williams, Champ Bailey, Dre Bly, and Boss Bailey
These guys are all playing very well on a much maligned defense. How many times did you hear Dre Bly’s name on Sunday? Boss Bailey? Champ had Chris Chambers covered but (although it’s killing me to say it) Phillip Rivers made a gorgeous throw and hit Chambers in stride, just over the outstretched arms of Champ. Other than that, Champ was locked in, played well, and as always, tackled just about everyone that came near him in the running game. DJ Williams is starting to get noticed again. He is playing with confidence, speed, and maybe most importantly, decisiveness. He was everywhere on Sunday afternoon. Anytime someone got the ball in the backfield, you saw a number 55 chasing him down or filling a gap or shedding a blocker. San Diego runs weakside more than any team in the NFL. DJ Williams plays weakside linebacker. San Diego picked up 80 yards on the day and Tomlinson only accounted for 26 of them on 10 carries.
Bad News:
Jarvis Moss, Karl Paymah
Jarvis Moss has been inactive for the entire 2008 season. Okay that sounds more dramatic than it is but for both games played, Moss has been out of pads. All I can say in his defense is both teams Denver's played are rushing oriented teams. However, a 1st round pick cannot be inactive for consecutive games in just his second year. If he his, then he’s either hurt or a bust. He’s not hurt and therefore must be a bust. The only way Moss contributes at this point seems to be if he becomes a specialty 3rd down pass rusher. Who knows, maybe because the Saints can’t run the ball Moss will get lots of playing time this week. Unless he makes an impact in the first half of this season, and a noticeable impact at that, I can’t imagine Denver will keep him on the roster. I’d rather put new talent that fits the scheme in the lineup than talent that doesn’t fit the scheme. Karl Paymah is Denver’s #3 corner but he was Phil Rivers’ #1 target. Paymah looked overmatched and out of position all day. He didn’t look confident. The only thing I noticed is that he was playing off the WR at the snap and giving a short to medium zone to the WR and protecting himself from a the deep pass (his Achilles heel as a pro). He was misjudging routes and timing. People like to bring up Foxworth here but Foxworth made the same mistakes Paymah did except Foxworth is 2 inches smaller and 20 lbs lighter than Paymah. I’ll still take Paymah, but he must improve and fast. He will be tested this week by Drew Brees who is a smarter, more accurate version of Rivers.
Good News:
The RBs, WRs, TEs
It’s no secret already in the 2008 season that Eddie Royal, Brandon Marshall, and Brandon "Slot Machine" Stokley are the best WR corps in the NFL. They are, two games in, this season’s version of Moss, Welker, and Stallworth. Everyone’s two questions were: 1) Is Eddie Royal ready for a starting job and able to compete at the highest level against the best talent on a consistent basis and 2) can Brandon Marshall pick up where he left off last season? The answers were both a resounding YES! Royal dominated the Oakland Game and caught the (potential) game winning TD on Sunday as well as the game winning 2-Point conversion. Marshall on the other hand, leads the NFL in receptions but has only played one game. He came up two receptions short of T.O.’s NFL record of 20 in one game with his 18 receptions. The RBs have been as advertised, maybe a little better. The Broncos RBs are on pace for 32 TDs this season. While we know that won’t happen, Michael Pittman has proven he can get yards when it counts. Andre Hall and Selvin Young have also done their part picking up tough yards but also gashing the defense in this new pass-first offense that Denver has employed. The TEs are all seeing the ball but as expected, Tony Scheffler already has 2 TDs and a per catch average over 15 yards per reception. He’s been flexed out with regularity. Dan Graham has been utilized differently this year and has caught a few balls this season as well. He has been in motion a lot this season as evidenced by playing from five different spots on the first five plays vs. the Chargers.
Bad News:
Kick Coverage
This is obvious. Specifically, Kickoff returns. Prater must find a way to get more touchbacks out of his leg. Denver’s personnel on kickoffs has changed a lot already this season because of injuries to Louis Green and Hamza Abdullah but it’s not an excuse for letting Darren Sproles average nearly 39 yards per kickoff return and bring one back for a TD. Against the lowly Raiders, Johnnie Lee Higgins averaged almost 26 yard per return but almost brought one back, being corralled by Champ Bailey well into Broncos’ territory. You would think with Niko, Larsen, and some of the young athletes that Denver sports, that the kick coverage unit would be physical and dominant but that is not the case. There have been huge, gaping holes in the middle of the field for returners to find in each of the two games this season. This problem must be solved or Denver will be giving away at least a field goal once a game this season.
Good News:
Kickers
Matt Prater has exceeded expectations. He nailed a 52 yarder on Sunday and would have been the goat of the game had he missed the kick. The last time I heard Jason Elam’s name uttered by a Broncos fans was my fantasy draft and that’s a very good thing for Matt Prater. Brett Kern has also been good but not spectacular. He’s put the ball where Denver wants it but needs to work on NOT outkicking his coverage. He’s netting over 40 yards a punt. He’s punted five times; two have been kicked inside the opponent’s 20. The average punt return is 4.5 yards and he’s grossing 48.2 yards a kick. I’m impressed.
Bad News:
Pass defense
We saw Oakland players get open a handful of times on misdirection plays targeting Denver’s aggressive and fast LB’s and Safeties. But, we saw San Diego absolutely punish Denver’s secondary to the tune of 377 yards and 3 TDs on 33 attempts. Who’s to blame and what’s to fix? Problem number one is the pass rush. Where was it? Denver sacked Rivers only one time and didn’t really pressure him into many bad throws. Denver played nickel and dime most of the game and only rushed three in the late 3rd and 4th quarters but that’s no excuse. At some point, Denver needs to bring more pressure at the risk of sacrificing big plays, which they were giving up with regularity anyway. They had nothing to lose by bringing an overload blitz on Rivers, who isn’t a speedy player. But they never did it. Denver is going to have to adjust their strategy. Again, Brees will test these guys this Sunday. The difference is that Denver sold out to the run for most of the Charger game and will not do so against New Orleans. Denver needs to find a way to get pressure SOME of the time because right now they are getting pressure NONE of the time.
Good News:
Pass offense
I’ll make this one quick. Denver is the #1 offense in the NFL after 2 weeks. The Oakland game was a gimme (not that we knew that then), but San Diego’s defense is no slouch. The Oakland and San Diego cornerbacks are 4 of the top 15 or so corners in the league. That hasn’t stopped Denver’s dynamic set of pass catchers from mauling them physically and statistically. Denver is #2 in the NFL in pass yards per game (Philly). They are #10 in rush yards per game (not bad!), but Denver has thrown for more TD’s than any other team except for the Chargers (see above). Cutler’s rating is 118.6. The offensive line has NOT allowed a sack this season (technically they have – the 4th quarter fumble by Cutler that was ruled an incomplete pass counted as a team sack for San Diego). They have protected Cutler and done an amazing job getting their teammates time to execute. The field personnel aren’t the only group doing its part though, the coaches have stepped up as well. Mike Shanahan and Jeremy Bates have set their opponents on their collective ear. The play calling has been innovative and the results have been extraordinary. The players really seem to be having fun and Cutler, Marshall, Royal, and Scheffler all seem to be on the cusp of stardom.
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I love these posts man.
I can’t find anything I can disagree with. Then I suppose, in the name of politics, it’s okay to say:
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by Tim Lynch on Sep 16, 2008 1:36 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
Nice post
I do think Boss looked bad on a lot of plays though. I still think SLB and MLB are areas we need to upgrade along with DL and S.
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by Broncoman on Sep 16, 2008 1:41 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
Food for thought...
SO the Broncos have had a tough time finding a dominant MLB.
How many other teams have a dominant MLB?
by super7 on Sep 16, 2008 1:44 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Dominant MLB?
I think we’ll see one this Sunday when Jonathan Vilma and the Saints come to town.
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by bradley on Sep 16, 2008 2:36 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
So...
Niners, Baltimore, and the Bears have elite MLB’s.
Green Bay, New Orleans, and Seattle’s are close close, but those guys aren’t what I’d consider elite.
I’m sure I left a few out….thoughts?
by super7 on Sep 16, 2008 2:45 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
hmmm...combined record of the teams above:
6-5
Average….
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by Tim Lynch on Sep 16, 2008 2:57 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Green Bay, New Orleans, Seattle
HOUTSON, Mike Peterson of the Jags is solid when healthy, Pierce of NY(N), Beason of Carolina… Just to name a few more : )
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by FlaBroncoFan on Sep 16, 2008 4:42 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
We have a very good chance of finding a MLB in the 2009 draft
I heard the story recently, so I thought I’d pass it on.
Normally, a draft crop is ‘made’ by an influx of juniors. For instance, this year’s RB crop was anemic until the juniors declared. The same situation existed for MLBs, although many potential junior declarees deferred this year because it was widely believed that both Rey Maualuga and James Laurinaitis would come out, but neither did. The result is that there’s a surplus of MLBs in the 2009 crop.
It’s hard to see any reason why they wouldn’t take advantage of a draft crop that fits their needs so well. Also, the extra picks should help in case they decide to move up to take some top shelf talent.
by Colinski on Sep 16, 2008 8:52 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
NIce!
Thanks for chiming in on that.
The Broncos are playing their cards so extraordinarily well that I am at a loss for superlatives to describe the “leap” they’ve made this year as compared to the last 10.
You have to think Denver is planning to trade lower picks into mid-round picks and parlay a mid round pick and a 1st round pick into a mid-first-round to high-first-round pick.
One of those LB’s I’d presume…
If this all plays out, Shanny’s gonna win coach of the year, GM of the year, rookie of the year (Royal) etc etc etc
very exciting stuff
by super7 on Sep 16, 2008 9:19 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
What about JC and BMarsh
Co-Offensive Players of the Year (or dare I say Co-MVPs)?
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by DesertBroncoFan on Sep 17, 2008 9:56 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Will either Woodyard or Barrett
step up soon enough to make this need feel less than it seems now?
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by FlaBroncoFan on Sep 16, 2008 2:29 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
No way
Woodyard is an OLB for sure and he’s the closest of the two.
The point I’m making is that more than 75% of the league is looking for an impact MLB.
Fortunately, that’s a great place for Denver to focus for the draft and FA next year.
Man, if Denver could find a way to get James Laurainitis, that would be outrageous.
by super7 on Sep 16, 2008 2:49 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
draft positioning
i believe that’s exactly what shanny is doing, now. he knows we need some impact players on defense to take this thing to the next level. we sacrificed some depth this season(who’s our 3rd receiver this week , anyway? d-jax is questionable) with an eye towards next season with 3 more draft picks. i think laurainitus is the missing key, or someone similar. we also need a pass-rusher because moss is a bust. never liked him. trade him as well, we should get a good draft pick for him, easy. our starting de’s are getting a little long in the tooth, too. dt , safety, and corner(paymah sucks) may still be needs if our dt depth, barrett/lowery, and jmfwilliams don’t impress this season. a few depth picks on offense should round it out, but we now have more ammo to trade up and seriously upgrade in a few spots on d. all in all, webster, paymah, manuel, and the d-line(again) needs to be upgraded next season. some of the new players may narrow our needs down, and then we can target 3 serious defenders. we could also trade a few picks for an impact fa there, also. then, we should be good enough to go the distance.
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by davecheffy on Sep 17, 2008 2:53 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Paymah
Paymah obviously didn’t have a good game, but whats also frustrating is he seems to be in good position on a lot of plays. I’ve noticed this against San Diego (the touchdown Chamber’s scored against him was a pretty good play) and in the preseason as well. He seems to be in good position on some plays, and then either makes a little bit too much contact and gets flagged or simply fails to make a play on the ball. Just some thoughts.
by nburns on Sep 16, 2008 4:18 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
what a great post
It will be fun to watch this young team grow—looking at our schedule—13-3 may just be 15-1.
I hope when we wiin the Super Bowl its against the Cowboys. Sweet first SB loss revenge.
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by Mike Clark on Sep 16, 2008 6:09 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
100% accurate Super7
The D hasn’t been the same since Al Wilson went down.
I do think they will improve as they get get more used to working together in the new system.
I keep waiting for an Elvis siting.
The air game is great and maybe a guy like Torain could have prevented the back to back 3 and outs in the 3rd quarter.
I think the boys will be better than 7-9 this year.
by HBBeough on Sep 16, 2008 6:36 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
Dare we say "The next Terrel Davis"?
That’s ok with me. We’re playing for wins, not media publicity....HT 9/11/08
by firstfan on Sep 16, 2008 6:49 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
really
where did he come from?draft?
by robbo650 on Sep 16, 2008 6:54 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes.
Word is, he was going to start. He’s out about 6 weeks.
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by Steve Nichols on Sep 16, 2008 7:18 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
our fifth rounder
he is a large back, built for a one cut power running game. He will replace what we never got out of Henry.
Here is a quick report on him that went up during the draft, talking a little bit about how he might be used. Keep in mind that this was written when Henry was still a Bronco, so the assumption was that Ryan (torain) would back up Henry. Ryan ended up making Henry completely expendable.
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by Jeremy Bolander on Sep 16, 2008 8:01 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Torain may be a great back
but I still don’t think we use him in between the 20’s this season. Right now it plays for the Broncos to be able to pass to their Rbs and motion thei Rbs into a WR slot. Also, our Rbs can all block. I’m not saying Torain can’tblock, but typically rookie backs have a tough timw with it for a bit.
I love Denver’s offense as isand if Torain really makes the offense better, how good will they be?
by super7 on Sep 16, 2008 8:14 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
The talk before Torain's injury...
…was that he was going to start. In fact, he’s so good that we are holding him on PUP. While it is hard to think ou offense can get any better, Torain can do something special. He can wear down the defense and eat clock.
"Greater is an army of sheep led by a lion, than an army of lions led by a sheep" Defoe
by Steve Nichols on Sep 17, 2008 4:37 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
But...
…you have to be concerned about Torain’s injury history. A broken bone in his foot last year, then a broken elbow when he went to break his fall after being tackled. RB’s ought not to break their elbow in that situation. Hoping for the best, though.
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by bradley on Sep 17, 2008 10:57 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Remember
TD had an injury history at UGA also
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by broncfanstuckinsd on Sep 17, 2008 11:52 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
and his brilliant career was cut short by an injury.
Not that I didn’t love having him for those few years at the top of his game.
If this be Hell, let us make the most of it!
by Trinidad Jack on Sep 19, 2008 12:19 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
One bit of good news is that the injuries aren't related.
Despite two injuries, he doesn’t have a reccuring issue.
"Greater is an army of sheep led by a lion, than an army of lions led by a sheep" Defoe
by Steve Nichols on Sep 17, 2008 1:47 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sort of related
Both injuries were bone breaks. Is Mr. Torain getting his calcium?
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by bradley on Sep 17, 2008 2:20 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
lol
If he wasn’t, I bet the trainers are pushing it now!
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by Steve Nichols on Sep 17, 2008 3:12 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nice Job super, thanks.
That’s ok with me. We’re playing for wins, not media publicity....HT 9/11/08
by firstfan on Sep 16, 2008 6:50 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
On the thought of trading up for a MLB pick
It’s still early, but Denver is (again) on its way to having an overloaded stable of running backs. What are the odds of Denver trading one or two away during the offseason for more draft pick material to get higher up in the first round? I don’t mean to start a discussion of who, but I am curious about that particular line of thinking. Shanny has been very good at converting running backs into trade capital through the years, and that seems like a logical step.
Or would this year’s explosion of rookie running backs inhibit such a trade? What teams might be looking for a new running back?
by Hooper on Sep 17, 2008 8:09 AM MDT reply actions 0 recs
A lot of teams might be interested in a Torain
type of player, but not so much a Young or Hall. The good bruisers are the rare ones right now, and unless Selvin has a breakout year that garners hima lot of attention, I don’t think many teams will see him as much more than a change of pace back (which is waht he looks like right now).
At this point I wouldn’t even harbor a daydream of trading Torain. I’m thinking he is the piece that gives this team a chance to dominate, not just on offense, but by keeping the other offense off the field. As HT says above, his job is chow-down on the clock and punish defenders.
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by Jeremy Bolander on Sep 17, 2008 8:31 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
I would be ok with a trade,
but not until the season is over. We need the skill and depth we have now, and trade values should build by the end of the season. As for Torain, I want to see what he can do. He won’t be back until after the trade deadline, so he’s off the table.
"Greater is an army of sheep led by a lion, than an army of lions led by a sheep" Defoe
by Steve Nichols on Sep 17, 2008 10:26 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
That’s my feeling as well. It’s too early to talk about who could be trade-bait, but there are enough running backs available that, assuming a healthy roster, Denver should be able to squeeze out another late-round pick if they really want one. Of course, the whole concept gets flushed if running backs get injured or if some just don’t pan out.
But if Denver needs a little more draft capital, I think the running backs are the easiest place to look.
by Hooper on Sep 17, 2008 10:47 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
vote moss for draft capital!
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by davecheffy on Sep 17, 2008 12:11 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
A 3-4 team...
…might like him at OLB.
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by bradley on Sep 17, 2008 12:19 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
We'll have to play him a bit before any team would bite.
But if he doesn’t pan out for Denver, that’s always a possibility.
by Hooper on Sep 17, 2008 1:01 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Denver game was rigged
San Diego was suppose to win this game, I don’t care too much for San Diego but for people who bet on games like this I’m pretty sure they where pissed, if you like cash and sports you should check allsportsroom.com out this is not a betting site check it out.
by mage on Sep 17, 2008 3:06 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
Mage, thanks for checking the site out
But please don’t bring nonsensical chatter to our blogsite. Saying that a pro sporting event is rigged is reserved for NBA fans and boxing fans.
by super7 on Sep 17, 2008 3:40 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
We're also not into advertising.
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by Steve Nichols on Sep 17, 2008 3:57 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Deaf ears.
That’s his/her one and only post. This is just a fly-by. Happens all the time. Ignored all the time.
by Hooper on Sep 17, 2008 4:32 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
if you like cash and sports?
sounds like a computer wrote this. i like women and bbq sauce, but i don’t mix them
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by davecheffy on Sep 17, 2008 4:51 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
I'd be willing to try!
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by Steve Nichols on Sep 18, 2008 6:52 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

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