ESPN's All-Time Franchise rankings

by dpurvis on Sep 18, 2008 6:33 AM MDT

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=nflrankings/1-10/080917

Interesting read here, that I'm not sure I saw elsewhere here. I'm surprised that the MSM (if you can call ESPN that anymore), had us ranked where we were. What is really ironic is who is directly behind us. With the way things are going right now, if ESPN did this same rankings in the next 5-10 seasons, we could potentially be higher.

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Strange, because I consider the 49ers to be one of the worst run franchises in th league today....

If God is not a Bronco fan, then WHY are sunsets Blue and Orange? - Jon Tollerud 5/22/08

by Tim Lynch on Sep 18, 2008 7:41 AM MDT reply actions

and the raiders for that matter too

If God is not a Bronco fan, then WHY are sunsets Blue and Orange? - Jon Tollerud 5/22/08

by Tim Lynch on Sep 18, 2008 7:41 AM MDT up reply actions

But the rankings are an overview going back to the merger.

The Niners were the Patriots of the 1990’s, and the raiders were the Patriots of the paleozoic era.

"Greater is an army of sheep led by a lion, than an army of lions led by a sheep" Defoe

by Steve Nichols on Sep 18, 2008 7:50 AM MDT up reply actions

Still...I'll take 30 years of consistent greatness over 10-15 years of dominance and 10-15 years of blowhardness

If God is not a Bronco fan, then WHY are sunsets Blue and Orange? - Jon Tollerud 5/22/08

by Tim Lynch on Sep 18, 2008 9:03 AM MDT up reply actions

That's what the ESPN formula does.

It factors in wins over a period of time, not just a run on SBs. I think it’s a really good metric.

"Greater is an army of sheep led by a lion, than an army of lions led by a sheep" Defoe

by Steve Nichols on Sep 18, 2008 11:20 AM MDT up reply actions

I don't think so. 49ers rank third

Yet they were a laughingstock from 70-79, were incredibley good from 80-99, and have been a laughingstock from 00-08. Thats’ 19 good years and 19 laughable years. The Broncos have had just 6 seasons under .500 since 1970. Which would you, as a fan, prefer?

That was my point.

If God is not a Bronco fan, then WHY are sunsets Blue and Orange? - Jon Tollerud 5/22/08

by Tim Lynch on Sep 18, 2008 11:22 AM MDT up reply actions

SF went

from 1983-1998 with a streak of at least 10 wins. In 1970-71-72 they had won the BFC West and went to 2 NFC title games. They were awful from 1974-1980. They have 5 rings which goes a long way. Not trying to defend them. But their crappiness now is a direct correlation to the Yorks owning and running them and not DeBartolo

Love is a razor and I have walked the line on that silver blade

by broncfanstuckinsd on Sep 18, 2008 11:46 AM MDT up reply actions

Over the space of all those years,

they have done very well.

"Greater is an army of sheep led by a lion, than an army of lions led by a sheep" Defoe

by Steve Nichols on Sep 18, 2008 12:00 PM MDT up reply actions

The Niners were run terrifically

under Eddie DeBartolo, Jr. His sister Denise and her husband (Dr.) John York, are abysmal. The top 5 are the same as the “Top 5 Since 1978” that I reference all the time, which makes sense. The Broncos have both the most average wins, and the highest degree of consistency since the advent of the 16 game schedule.

"I am not one of those who think that coming in second or third is winning." -- Robert F. Kennedy

by Ted Bartlett on Sep 18, 2008 9:17 AM MDT up reply actions

I think the Broncos have moved into 3rd...considering how awful the 49ers and Dolphins have been this decade.

If God is not a Bronco fan, then WHY are sunsets Blue and Orange? - Jon Tollerud 5/22/08

by Tim Lynch on Sep 18, 2008 9:18 AM MDT up reply actions

It was posted as a Fanshot...

No harm to post here, though…

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by John Bena on Sep 18, 2008 8:09 AM MDT reply actions

fanshots really need a little more exposure somehow

I have to have my fanposts expanded to the maximum to keep up with them, and that just buries the fanshots.

I like the idea of a place for small posts and links, but maybe the place should more accurately reflect the content, i.e. maybe the placement should be small and convenient, like a scrolling widget, or a quick list or something…

Something for the SBNation boys to think about.

Mountains, forest, sea: these render man fierce, but yet do not destroy the man.

by Jeremy Bolander on Sep 18, 2008 9:35 AM MDT up reply actions

I agree....my fanpost list is maxed too.

I only keep up with fanshots because I post there rather frequently.

If God is not a Bronco fan, then WHY are sunsets Blue and Orange? - Jon Tollerud 5/22/08

by Tim Lynch on Sep 18, 2008 9:39 AM MDT up reply actions

ooh, what about a fanshot ticker?

too much bandwidth? it could be pretty simple….

Mountains, forest, sea: these render man fierce, but yet do not destroy the man.

by Jeremy Bolander on Sep 18, 2008 10:02 AM MDT up reply actions

Or an option in your settings to list both fanshots and fan posts in on string ordered by date.

If God is not a Bronco fan, then WHY are sunsets Blue and Orange? - Jon Tollerud 5/22/08

by Tim Lynch on Sep 18, 2008 10:07 AM MDT up reply actions

they would scroll off the page too fast

that would be jsut like not having fanshots and just having more fanposts.

Too much!! Too fast!!

Mountains, forest, sea: these render man fierce, but yet do not destroy the man.

by Jeremy Bolander on Sep 18, 2008 10:44 AM MDT up reply actions

The ticker idea could be good...but the site loads slowly already with all the stuff up there...

I just need to start using the fanpost tab, and fanshot tab. Easier than scrolling down forever to find the fanshots. lol

If God is not a Bronco fan, then WHY are sunsets Blue and Orange? - Jon Tollerud 5/22/08

by Tim Lynch on Sep 18, 2008 10:58 AM MDT up reply actions

I recently had to max out the posts too.

I rarely catch the fanshots anymore because I’m so busy trying to scan every comment in the stories and posts!

"Greater is an army of sheep led by a lion, than an army of lions led by a sheep" Defoe

by Steve Nichols on Sep 18, 2008 11:22 AM MDT up reply actions

I've been so busy lately(in rl) that I have been buried by new comments. lol

I’ll catch up eventually though. :P

If God is not a Bronco fan, then WHY are sunsets Blue and Orange? - Jon Tollerud 5/22/08

by Tim Lynch on Sep 18, 2008 11:23 AM MDT up reply actions

when I leave every other week,

I at once dread and relish opening up MHR.

Mountains, forest, sea: these render man fierce, but yet do not destroy the man.

by Jeremy Bolander on Sep 18, 2008 11:43 AM MDT up reply actions

Same here!

That’s ok with me. We’re playing for wins, not media publicity....HT 9/11/08

by firstfan on Sep 18, 2008 11:48 AM MDT up reply actions

I can see Dallas and most hated Pitburg rated higher than us...

but I have a problem with fins and 9’ers—we should be 3rd.

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by Mike Clark on Sep 18, 2008 9:47 AM MDT reply actions

I am ok with it

Maybe I would possible switch Denver and Miami, but Pitt, Dallas, and SF all have more SB wins and have a history of being just as consistent as Denver. Really the success of the Broncos can date to 1973, Pitt has been a model of conisitency 3 HC’s since 1969.

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by broncfanstuckinsd on Sep 18, 2008 11:49 AM MDT reply actions

It's fine

When they update it in 3 years we will have 2 more SB wins, 3 more years of playoff appearances, 3 more 10+ win seasons, and we’ll move up as Miami and the niners keep sucking.

Owning the Patriots since September 9, 1960

by Darin H on Sep 18, 2008 12:08 PM MDT reply actions