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New Orleans Saints @ Denver Broncos - The Edge

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2008 OFFENSE

Category Broncos Saints
Points Scored 40.0 (1st) 24.0 (9th)
Passing 320.5 (2nd) 266.0 (7th)
Rushing 143.0(10th) 78.0  (25th)
Total Offense (yards) 463.5 (1st) 344.0 (10th)

2008 DEFENSE

Category Broncos Saints
Points Scored 26.0 (26th)  24.5 (23rd)
Passing 266.5 (29th) 256.0 (28th)
Rushing 115.0 (21st) 147.5 (26th)
Total Defense (yards) 381.5 (27th) 403.5 (29th)

The Broncos are an impressive 2-0, with both wins coming against Divisional opponents.   Despite some challenges on defense, the Broncos control their own destiny.  In the past, a game like this, against a team from the NFC, a team the Broncos should beat, has been a trap game.  Can the Broncos maintain their focus as well as their winning ways?

It's Broncos/Saints. Who has "The Edge"?

Star-divide

 

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Quarterback

Sure, the homer in me says Cutler is a top-5 quarterback that should hold the advantage against every QB in the League except for someone named Manning or Brady.  Make no mistake Cutler is on his way, but true greatness is measured by more than a couple of off-the-chart games.

Since joining the Saints prior to the 2006 season, Brees has thrown for nearly 9,500 yards and 58 touchdowns.  His completion percentage has risen each season and in 2008 is just under 70%.  Year after year, Brees has gotten consistently better  and he has alot of weapons at his disposal.  There might be some hard feelings for Brees as well, since it was duing a game against the Broncos in 2005 that essentially ended his career as a San Diego Charger.

Ask me again later in the year, and I may go Cutler, but Brees is a top notch quarterback on and off the field, and if the Broncos can't get in his face it could be a long day defensively.

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Running Back

This is a tough one since both teams rely on a committee approach, but with so many questions in the Saints' backfield I have to give the edge to the Broncos.

For New Orleans, I still get the sense that they are trying to figure out how best to use Reggie Bush.  I think they know his skills are best utilized in space, but with no real option to hand the ball off to, Bush has been forced to be more of a traditional back.  Deuce McAllister is supposed to be the thunder to Reggie Bush's lightning, but multiple knee injuries continue to slow him down.  Pierre Thomas is a big back and someone to keep an eye on.  I feel the Saints are going to try and control the game on the ground and Thomas could be the one who gets a bulk of the carries.

For the Broncos, it will be the hot hand, whether that is Andre Hall, Selvin Young or Michael Pittman.  While there is some question about who gets the ball between the 20's, there is little doubt as to who the Red Zone back is.  Pittman has 3 touchdowns in 2 games and seems to be getting more comfortable in the system.

With the Saints being on of the worst defenses in football against the run, I think the Broncos will do their best to dictate the temp as well, hoping to avoid the quick-score potential of the Saints.

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Receiver

Both teams have solid receiving units, both outside and at tight end, but the loss of Marques Colston give the Broncos the advantage.  Without Colston, the Saints just don;t have that receiver that will go over the middle and make a tough catch.  Devery Henderson, Robert Meachum and David Patton all prefer to do their dirty work on the outside.  That is going to put a lot of pressure on Jeremy Shockey to make things happen down the middle of the field.

What the Saints don;t have at receiver the Broncos have an abundance of.  Brandon Marshall will go anywhere, anytime to get his hands on the football, and Eddie Royal is quickly becoming an asset inside as well.  Brandon Stokley has made a living in the slot and isn;t afraid to make the tough catch.  Add in Tony Scheffler and Daniel Graham, and the Broncos have a 5-headed monster to catch Jay Cutler's laser passes.  Perhaps it should come as no surprise that Cutler has raked up 650 passing yards after only 2 weeks.

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Offensive Line
How can you not like the Broncos O-Line.  Ryan Clady and Ryan Harris have been outstanding all season long, pre-season included, and these guys are only going to get better.  Tom Nalen is still out, but I have to admit Casey Wiegmann has fit right into the system.  Not only his veteran leadership, but just the knowledge of the AFC West opponents, playing in Kansas City all those years. The Broncos officially allowed their first sack all season last week, did an excellent job protecting Cutler, especially on the 2 fourth quarter drives.  It's another tough road this week but I think the Broncos are up to the challenge.

Jamaal Brown is one of the best in football, but the Saints O-Line as a whole has struggled this season, especially trying to run the football. They allowed 3 sacks in two games, but 2 of Drew Brees' passes have been tipped as well, leading to interceptions.  In both cases, the pcket was collapsed into Brees' face, a problem since Drew isn't that tall of a QB.

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Defensive Line

There is alot of talent and money tied up in the Saints' defensive line, starting with Rookie DT Sedrick Ellis.  Charles Grant and Will Smith team up with Bobby McCray at defensive end to form a powerful group of pass rushers.  Because they are so aggressive, they are susceptible to the run, as shown by the 147 yards a game New Orleans gives up on the ground.  Despite that, this group is among the best, and once they get th motor started, it is hard to stop.

The Broncos d-line is still a work in progress and will look to get a shot in the arm this Sunday from Jarvis Moss.  It is hard to say Moss is a bust since he was hurt much of last season, but the Broncos need to start seeing a return from the former Gator.  I did see some nice things last week from Moss' counterpart in the 2007 draft, Tim Crowder, and DeWayne Robertson was getting some push last week, though Phil Rivers did a good job getting rid of the football.  Too many maybe's and if's for the Broncos, I like the Saints D-Line.

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Linebacker

Former teammates at 'The U', D.J. Williams and Jonathon Vilma have had their share of ups and downs in the NFL.  Williams finished 3rd behind Vilma in the 2005 Defensive Rookie of the Year voting and both have shown signs of being great NFL linebackers.  Both have struggled at times with position moves, however, though Williams is a big part of the Broncos future while Vilma found his new fortune in New Orleans instead of New York.

What give the Broncos the edge are the supporting casts, with Nate Webster and Boss Bailey being a better combination than Scott Shanle and Scott Fujita.  To make matter worse, both Fujita and Shanle are battling injuries.  While Shanle looks like he'll be ready, Fujita is likely out Sunday.  The Broncos need better play from their group this weekend, but despite some struggles they are still the better corps this week.

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Secondary

Once again, the Broncos simply have more talent than the Saints in the secondary.  The Saints should get a boost from the return of CB Mike MacKenzie.  Randall Gay may return as well, providing solid depth.  On the other side, however, the Saints have alot of problems with Jason David, who has been a bust since being signed to a big free agent deal before last season.  Injures plague the safety group as well, making the Saints defensive backfield a huge vulnerability.

The Broncos, on the other hand, are relatively healthy in back,  and this could be the weekend that sees Bailey and Bly become the ballhawks they are known to be.  Drew Brees is a great quarterback, but he can be forced into mistakes.  There are alot of tipped balls that will be primed for the taking.  I like the Broncos DB's to get a couple turnovers on Sunday.

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Special Teams

This comes down to sheer explosive ability in the return game more than anything to do with the punting or kicking game.  Reggie Bush is as good as it gets returning punts, having gone 55 yards for a Touchdown last week against the Redskins.  The Broncos coverage teams are always an adventure, and I'm sure Bush watched what Darren Sproles did to the Broncos last week.

I happen to like the Broncos combination of Kern and Prater to Gramatica and Weatherford, but the threat of the Saints return game give a big advantage to New Orleans.

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Coaching

Sean Payton is one of the bright offensive minds in the NFL today, but Mike Shanahan is still the Mastermind.  Yes, the Broncos have alot of offensive talent, but Shanahan's game plans so far this season have been brilliant.  It seems Shanny has been re-energized by the youth of both the team and his quarterback and that fire in his eyes has returned.  I like Payton, but Shanahan has the edge in an offensive matchup.

Another week, another 80 points?  You have to wonder, given the way these two defenses have played so far.  I look for both teams to come out and try to establish the run.  While these offensive shoot-outs are fun, I'd rather not have a game come down to whoever has the ball last.  The Broncos need to get the running game going if they are going to have true success in 2008.

A game like this, a week after a huge divisional win, against a NFC team, has the markings of a huge trap game for Denver.  That is where Jay Cutler comes in.  This is his team, and he needs to show the same focus and intensity this week as he did the previous two weeks.  The Broncos should beat the Saints, and with all the attention of being a "surprise" team come the expectations and pressure.  Part of Cutler's growth will be how he plays as a favorite.  I expect him to come through big and keep the Broncos on the right path.

FINAL PREDICTION: Denver Broncos 34 - New Orleans 23.

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GO BRONCOS!

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Will Jarvis Moss Register A Sack Against New Orleans?
Yes, More Than 1
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1 Sack
274 votes
He's a bust...Forget Him!
150 votes

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Is there a title for this posting?

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by mdierk on Sep 19, 2008 1:33 PM MDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I think it's "Story Title", lol.

We still love you Guru.

If this be Hell, let us make the most of it!

by Trinidad Jack on Sep 19, 2008 1:57 PM MDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I thought it was "The Edge"

Victor Frankl:

What man actually needs is not a tensionless state but rather the striving and struggling for some goal worthy of him. What he needs is not the discharge of tension at any cost, but the call of a potential meaning waiting to be fulfilled by him.

Everything can be taken from a man but one thing: the last of the human freedoms – to choose one’s attitude in any given set of circumstances, to choose one’s own way.

by wyoeng on Sep 19, 2008 9:14 PM MDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Both of our D’s look pretty even. Let’s see some guys step it up this game to see if we can get ranked to the lower 20’s-high teens.

Mile High will NEVER Die!!!

by rynoz71 on Sep 19, 2008 1:49 PM MDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I'll hold off on buzzing it up until there is an official title. :)

If God is not a Bronco fan, then WHY are sunsets Blue and Orange? - Jon Tollerud 5/22/08

by Zappa on Sep 19, 2008 2:01 PM MDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

what about

zero sacks but a good game and some pressures. I am not ready to call him a bust, but I dont think he will get a sack, but he may have a good game

Love is a razor and I have walked the line on that silver blade

by broncfanstuckinsd on Sep 19, 2008 2:01 PM MDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Brees is the most underrated QB around.

He wasn’t even mentioned in that “best young QB” article. I still think Cutler has yet to reach his full potential…once he does, Brees is a fart in the wind compares to him. :P

If God is not a Bronco fan, then WHY are sunsets Blue and Orange? - Jon Tollerud 5/22/08

by Zappa on Sep 19, 2008 2:07 PM MDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Brees is definitely under rated.

In fact, he scares me. I’m just not sure he qualifies as being “young” anymore.

If this be Hell, let us make the most of it!

by Trinidad Jack on Sep 19, 2008 2:17 PM MDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

he's only been in the league one or two years longer than Manning and Rivers right?

If God is not a Bronco fan, then WHY are sunsets Blue and Orange? - Jon Tollerud 5/22/08

by Zappa on Sep 19, 2008 2:24 PM MDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

he was drafted

the same year as LT 2001. the 32nd pick (first pick of round 2). he was aquired as part of the vick trade. Where Sd moved to #5 and got LT and then took brees in the 2nd round. I guess it was a smart mover by Butler to trade away vick for Brees and LT

Love is a razor and I have walked the line on that silver blade

by broncfanstuckinsd on Sep 19, 2008 2:28 PM MDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

If Robertson and Thomas

and whoever else plays DT can only collapse the pocket a little, that could cause Brees some problems, no taller than he is.

Never argue with a fool, lest you take on his appearance. - my daddy

by AZDynamics on Sep 19, 2008 2:59 PM MDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Sheesh! What kind of poll is that?

I doubt Moss gets a sack, but I’m not ready to declare him a bust.

Where is the choice for that??

Never argue with a fool, lest you take on his appearance. - my daddy

by AZDynamics on Sep 19, 2008 2:38 PM MDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

It's not like Guru to speak in absolutes like that.

That’s my job.

If God is not a Bronco fan, then WHY are sunsets Blue and Orange? - Jon Tollerud 5/22/08

by Zappa on Sep 19, 2008 2:56 PM MDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

heheh

This week was way too long. Sunday needs to hurry up and get here already!

If God is not a Bronco fan, then WHY are sunsets Blue and Orange? - Jon Tollerud 5/22/08

by Zappa on Sep 19, 2008 3:00 PM MDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Let's face facts...

He is being activated this week for one reason, to get to the quarterback….He’s a pass rush specialist…..

Sometime you have to take a stand….

-TSG

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by John Bena (aka TheSportsGuru) on Sep 19, 2008 3:52 PM MDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

But it doesn't mean he needs to get actual sacks.

I’d be happy if he can get enough pressure to keep Brees a little uncomfortable and prevent him from setting his feet properly on a lot of throws. Brees is a cool customer and hard to rattle, but even he will be more prone to INTs if he’s hounded.

Don’t get me wrong, I’d love a dozen sacks on Sunday, but that’s still just one part of the equation for quarterback pressure.

by hooper on Sep 19, 2008 4:05 PM MDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Pressure as a group....

I agree….He has one job. Brees is a pocket passer. He should be able to get one…

Now, the question wasn’t “Is Jarvis Moss a bust if he doesn’t get a sack?”. I was simply giving an option for those he aren’t too high on him…

-TSG

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by John Bena (aka TheSportsGuru) on Sep 19, 2008 4:44 PM MDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

No argument.

I’m going to guess “no sacks for Moss, but much better pressure”. I don’t figure in any sacks because I don’t think the Saints will stretch the field. I think they’ll stick with quick passes that don’t give enough time for sacks. I doesn’t match any choices, so I’ll leave it here.

On a much brighter note: Cutler’s sack-free stat is still running, with a minor technicality. His one “sack” was the result of incompletion/fumble fiasco. In a very weird sense, the only person able to sack Cutler has been Hochuli! (And that’s probably because Clady isn’t allowed to block the ref.)

by hooper on Sep 19, 2008 5:00 PM MDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Jarvis Moss's career will(with Denver anyway)

will be decided this season. The young man must step up and start making a difference on this football team or he is gone.

I have to side with Guru on this one. Shanny is the type of guy who cares about stats…not as much as he cares about winning, but if the team loses and he has to decide which way to go with the team at the end of the year then I can gaurantee he will be looking at stats. So sacks are the most important statistic for a defensive end…especially now that pressure is not coming from anywhere.

If God is not a Bronco fan, then WHY are sunsets Blue and Orange? - Jon Tollerud 5/22/08

by Zappa on Sep 19, 2008 4:26 PM MDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I read the article over on the Saints link you provided

Just a great interview by our Guru. Congrats TSG!!

All I have to say about those Saints fans is that they are a classy bunch, from what I have seen. :)

Never argue with a fool, lest you take on his appearance. - my daddy

by AZDynamics on Sep 19, 2008 2:58 PM MDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I have nothing against them...we are 6-2 all-time after all. :P

If God is not a Bronco fan, then WHY are sunsets Blue and Orange? - Jon Tollerud 5/22/08

by Zappa on Sep 19, 2008 3:01 PM MDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

They are a good group over there.

Class act.

"Greater is an army of sheep led by a lion, than an army of lions led by a sheep" Defoe

by hoosierteacher on Sep 19, 2008 6:02 PM MDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

great stuff, guru

definitely a trap game feel here, but the injuries should be too much for n.o. to overcome. they will need some help in this one, and their d-line may give it to them. can they break thru? both teams should try to run the ball here, as they must realize the immediate and long-term need to develope more balance. the backup rb’s concern me again this week, especially if deuce is healthy, and bush on st’s is a worry, for sure. i see alot of points again, and big plays for both sides. another doozy here, with 2 teams trying to establish a new identity after 7-9 seasons. who runs it better and pressures the qb more should take it. that may be a wash. i’m gonna say 30-28 broncos, with us controlling the game most of the way, and brees making it interesting late.

or, we’ll just kill them dead.

hear me, perpetrators of bread crime, your punishment is at hand.
taste my blintzkrieg!

by davecheffy on Sep 19, 2008 5:02 PM MDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Great stuff

I would probably call the RB even, but that is because I think Bush and Piere are as talented as Young and Hall, but a very good assessment.

"How do the berries taste Ralph?" Bart Simpson
"They taste like burning." Ralph Wigam
Broncoman

by Broncoman on Sep 19, 2008 5:15 PM MDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

The last sentence hits it right on the button.

To be successful in the NFL you need to beat the teams you are expected to beat. Divisional matchups are more intense than when playing an NFC team. This will be a good test for Culter as well as the whole team. Get an early lead and maintain it.

"It doesn't dissipate" ~ Mike Shanahan

Cutler's 4th qtr/OT game winning drives: 4

by weazel on Sep 19, 2008 7:02 PM MDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

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