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Denver Broncos 34 - New Orleans Saints 32 - Making the Grade

Another nail-biter for the Broncos came down to the final seconds, and again the Broncos survived.  Let's take one last look at the 34-32 win over the Saints before getting right back to the AFC West and the Kansas City Chiefs.   We'll talk much more about that, but it is time for this week's edition of  "Making The Grade" where I will grade the Broncos performance from the day before.  The most important "grade" is the one on the scoreboard, and for the Broncos this week it was another W.  What about the players performance?  Let's take a look....

QUARTERBACK
 

B-

Jay Cutler -- 21/34 - 264 yds, 2 TD, 1 INT

To be so young and so talented.  Jay Cutler had another solid football game, yet the Broncos signal caller still left me a bit wanting.  Perhaps because Cutler is so good so young I expect too much.  I'll except that reasoning and give you that I am the one with the problem.  Still, call me spoiled in what I am looking for from Cutler.  As was stated in the open threads yesterday, Cutler has the weight of the football team on his shoulder right now, which magnified every mistake he makes.  Yesterday it was the interception on the first play after the Saints had scored a touchdown to cut the Broncos lead to 21-10.  That is a big drive for the Broncos at that point because the defense had just spent a long time on the field and needed the break.  It was a bad decision to throw into double coverage, but I won't blame Cutler for having confidence in both his arm and his receivers.  There were also a couple of throws Cutler flat out missed, leaving yards and points on the field.  I know, I'm being overly critical, but Cutler plays quarterback in Denver, it comes with the territory.

The offense is still scoring at an impressive clip.  They scored points on 5/10 possessions yesterday, including 3/5 for Touchdowns.  For the season, the Broncos have scored on 18/29 possessions(62%), with 13/18 resulting in 6 points(72%).  Those numbers will win you alot of football games.

 

Star-divide

RUNNING BACK
 

B-

Selvin Young - 11 carries, 65 yards, 5.9 ypc

A problem the Broncos have had so far on offense is the inability to run the ball consistently, whether by design or by talent.  Yesterday, the Broncos again needed the running game to come up big, most importantly in the final minutes when a first down would have ended the game and they couldn't get it done.  While I hated the call at the goalline that resulted in a safety, the fact the Broncos were blown off the ball so decisively has to be a concern.  For the game, the Broncos ran the ball 24 times for 105 yards, good for 4.4 yards per carry.  It still wasn't enough for me, and the sooner the Broncos can get back to some sort of commitment to the running game, especially with the lead, the better the Broncos will be at closing games.  Perhaps, when Ryan Torain returns, we'll see it.

WIDE RECEIVER
 

B+

  Brandon Marshall - 6 rec. / 155 yards / 1 TD / 25.8 avg

Once again, Brandon Marshall imposed his will on an opposing defense.  Showing his ball control side last week(18 catches, 9.8 ypc), Marshall showed his big play capabilites averaging nearly 26 yards each time he touched the ball.  Marshall could have had an enormous day if not for a drop, a misstep out of bounds, or a shoestring tackle.  He is on pace to break several NFL records, and after missing Week 1 appears to be on a mission.  It was nice to see Jay Cutler spread the ball around, with Marshall catching 6 passes, Eddie Royal 4, Tony Scheffler 4, and Brandon Stokley 3.  That kind of distribution will help Marshall and the offense in the long run.

TIGHT END
 

B-

Tony Scheffler - 4 rec. / 32 yards / 8  ypc

All three tight ends had a solid game and were on their way to a higher grade until Scheffler's red zone fumble.  Like last week with the Cutler INT, turning the ball over in the red zone is unacceptable and will affect the overall grade.  It was nice to see Scheffler, Daniel Graham and Nate Jackson get involved in the passing game.  Few teams have a trio of tight ends as talented as the group the Broncos run out each Sunday and if they could eliminate the silly mistakes the Broncos offense could be even better.

OFFENSIVE LINE
 

A-

Another week, another solid performance by the Broncos offensive line.  Quickly, this group is becoming one of the best in the NFL despite it's age.  Jay Cutler was under a bit more pressure that in past weeks, but give credit to the Saints.  With Will Smith, Charles Grant and Sedrick Ellis, the Saints employ one of the more talented defesive line groups in the entire League.  To hold that group to zero sacks goes to show how talented this group is and can be.  There are still weaknesses in run-blocking, but I think it will get better as the weeks go on.  Until then, as long as Jay Cutler's jersey stays clean, this group gets an 'A'.
DEFENSIVE LINE
 

C-

Last week I wondered aloud about seeing Jarivs Moss in uniform.  I got my wish.  The result - 1 tackle, 0 sacks.  Moss didn't play poorly, at least no worse than anyone else along the line.  Drew Brees dropped back to pass 48 times and felt pressure 3 or 4 times at the most, including the sack credited to Ebenezar Ekuban.  The Broncos once again tried different looks to try and confuse the Saints O-line, going with 4-man fronts, 3-man fronts, a couple 5-man fronts, all trying to generate the pass-rush which has eluded the team for the past few years.  So why the C-?  The entire defense gets a free 1/2 grade for the goal-line stand and the 3rd and 1 stop at the end of the game.  Both plays were obviously huge in helping the Broncos win. 
LINEBACKER
 

B-

D.J. Williams - 14 tackles

Anytime the defense gives you seven point it is a huge jolt to the offense.  Nate Webster's fumble return for a touchdown showed the big-play potential of this defense.  Add it to the defensive stands mentioned above, and the while the defense was'nt great by any stretch, when they had to make plays the defense was able to get it done, and alot of it was due to the linebackers flying around.  ON the goal-line play it was Nate Webster breaking through to make the first hit on Pierre Thomas to stop him short.  At the end of the game, it was Williams that shot in from the wekside to stop Thomas on the 3rd and 1 prior to the field goal try.  Yes, the linebackers miss tackles and over-pursue every now and then, but they are flying around and playing with alot of energy.  That has to be worth something.

DEFENSIVE BACKS
 

D

Can't really blame this group for how they played, being that they played zone for a majority of the game. I'll make this simple - zone coverage + no pass rush + good quarterback = shredded pass defense.  The Broncos want to stop the run and not give up the big play.  The Saints took advantage of it by taking what the defense gave and dumping the ball down to Reggie Bush and Jeremy Shockey.  Without their best receiver, why would't the Broncos dare the Saints to try and beat them outside?  The one times they did, Marquand Manuel got beat deep by Robert Meachem.  Anyone else want to see Jack Williams on the football field?  Karl Paymah had another rough game, and as a group, the defensive backs are struggling, be it schem or performance, these guys need to step it up.

SPECIAL TEAMS
 

A

Quite a turnaround from last week.  I thought the special teams, from top to bottom, played their best game of the season.  Reggie Bush is as dangerous as they come at returning punts, and I know I was sweating when the Broncos punted the ball in the 4th quarter.  The coverage units maintained their spacing well and didn't allow Bush a lane to run to.  

The other units were just as solid, with Matt Prater having another solid day kicking field goals.  Prater is still perfect on the season.  If the special teams can play like this every week, Scott O'Brien's group might just be ok afterall.

COACHING
 

B+

The Broncos do a great job with those first 18 plays that are scripted.  It is the next 18 I have a problem with.  Two weeks in a row the Broncos got out to a fast start only to see things tail of in the middle quarters.  Why not script the first 30 plays?  I still don't think there is a big enough commitment to the running game, but hey, who am I to complain?  The Broncos are 3-0, heading  into a showdown with the worst team in football.  It can't all be bad, right?
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C
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B-/C+

I’d really like to give them a C, but we won, so that has to be worth something.

Other than that, the lack of a running game (I think we may have given up on it too quickly) and the lack of a pass rush is going to lose us games.

I’m not sure what was going on with Jay yesterday. There were too many over/under thrown balls to open receivers that would have been first downs if not touch downs.

"It's all over Fat Man" - Tom Jackson to John Madden 1977 AFC Championship Game

"I love your analysis of our team. Its kinda like watching a spider monkey trying to figure out a jar of peanuts.. you know whats going on.. you know whats in there, but to actually figure it out, is just a bit beyond your mental skills..."
- Bronco Dano

by DesertBroncoFan on Sep 22, 2008 10:34 AM MDT   0 recs

How can coaching be a B+? Doesn't the defensive coordinator & his gameplan count as coaching?

Seriously, it’s no shock that Bob Slowik is a horrible D-coordinator figuring he’s historically one of the worst ever if you look at his previous jobs (stats bear this out). That said, I don’t know if you can draw up a worse gameplan for a team that has no run threat up the middle at all. The Broncos didn’t stop the run up the middle, it just is a nonexistent thing because Bush can’t run like that.

Also, I think the DL grade should be lower despite the “great” run defense. They are the most to blame (well other than Paymah) for the terrible coverage. If a guy has an hour and a half to throw, he’ll find someone open even if he’s a dreadful QB. Which really gets back to the point on coaching, since the soft zone with a 3 man rush might be the worst possible defense to run against the Saints.

by SethGrandpa on Sep 22, 2008 10:40 AM MDT   0 recs

The offensive gameplan...

still makes up for whatever the hell the Broncos are doing on defense, though your concern is duly noted.

As for the D-Line, they would have had a D if not for those three plays(2 at the goal line and another on 3rd and 1). Those are huge plays that the Broncos had to have, and despite being swiss-cheese like for much of the game the defense was able to come through when it mattered.

-TSG

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by TheSportsGuru on Sep 22, 2008 10:48 AM MDT to parent up   0 recs

Did they really come through when it mattered

Yes they had a terrific goal line stand, and the third down play was great that DJ had, but, had Gramattica mad eiether of his FG, or had the Saints not gotten conservative in their play calling at the end of the game, I am guessing they would of made a first down if they let Brees throw the ball and then run the clock down and kicked an easier FG. I really think New Orleans play calling is what stopped New Orleans, not our defense.

"How do the berries taste Ralph?" Bart Simpson
"They taste like burning." Ralph Wigam
Broncoman

by Broncoman on Sep 22, 2008 11:43 AM MDT to parent up   0 recs

That's my point...

The Broncos made a play at that moment, the Saints didn’t. Plain and simple. I’m not any more excited about the defense then you, but the offense put them in a couple of bad situations as well. You want to lower the grade of the team after a win, that’s fine, but when competition in the NFl comes down to a couple plays, I am going to give credit when the Broncos make them, even on a bad defensive day…

-TSG

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by TheSportsGuru on Sep 22, 2008 11:55 AM MDT to parent up   0 recs

Puh-leeese

back that statement up. I wanna see your so-called stats on Slo. Last I checked a coach is as good as his players

Love is a razor and I have walked the line on that silver blade

by broncfanstuckinsd on Sep 22, 2008 12:08 PM MDT to parent up   0 recs

I won't impede any Slowik bashing until his scheme show me something

other than timidness and fear. It seems to me that our game plan on defense is to fear the other teams QB. Rather than instill fear upon that QB. If this is what we are getting in 2008, you can kiss an playoff victories goodbye.

If God is not a Bronco fan, then WHY are sunsets Blue and Orange? - Jon Tollerud 5/22/08

by Zappa on Sep 22, 2008 12:11 PM MDT to parent up   0 recs

Remember

a defensive scheme does change when a team takes an 18 point lead and never gives up the lead. I wonder how bad the sky would falling here if they were friggin 1-2. They are 3 and freaking zero. I am so tired of OMG the defense sucks. If I remember correctly (which I DO) a team in 1999 scored 550+ points and allowed almost 400 and guess what they won the Super Bowl. Granted I want more of a rush. But honestly how many teams have offenses as explosive as NO and SD? Thats besides the one in Denver

Love is a razor and I have walked the line on that silver blade

by broncfanstuckinsd on Sep 22, 2008 12:16 PM MDT to parent up   0 recs

Guru said that Rams defense in 99 was a Top 5 Defense...how does a Top 5 D give up 400 points?

All I am saying is that I am not inspired at all….

If God is not a Bronco fan, then WHY are sunsets Blue and Orange? - Jon Tollerud 5/22/08

by Zappa on Sep 22, 2008 12:46 PM MDT to parent up   0 recs

Cover 8

is a legitimate defense, particularly against a great QB with iffy receiver production. We need to get more production out of our players, not the coach.

Mountains, forest, sea: these render man fierce, but yet do not destroy the man.

by styg50 on Sep 22, 2008 12:18 PM MDT to parent up   0 recs

I blame everyone, coaches, players, ect ect....EXCEPT

DJ Williams. That dude is everywhere…can’t fault his play one bit. Everyone else is streaky. What is Webster’s helmet count now? I think I saw two yesterday…are we at 3 for the year now? :)

If God is not a Bronco fan, then WHY are sunsets Blue and Orange? - Jon Tollerud 5/22/08

by Zappa on Sep 22, 2008 12:47 PM MDT to parent up   0 recs

DJ Williams

16 tackles, 14 solo

If there's gonna be a collision, you better start it. Larry Csonka..

by bradley on Sep 22, 2008 2:04 PM MDT to parent up   0 recs

Beastly...

He must have drank some tacklin’ fuel before the game!

If God is not a Bronco fan, then WHY are sunsets Blue and Orange? - Jon Tollerud 5/22/08

by Zappa on Sep 22, 2008 3:00 PM MDT to parent up   0 recs

The lack of a pass rush will cost us more than a few games this year...

Luck is a funny thing…it feels great, but in the end it always runs out. Where the hell is the blitz?!?

If God is not a Bronco fan, then WHY are sunsets Blue and Orange? - Jon Tollerud 5/22/08

by Zappa on Sep 22, 2008 11:00 AM MDT   0 recs

I'd like to see more blitz too,

but I don’t want to see any more of the punt-rush style of putting 8 or nine guys on top of the line of scrimmage, it just screams for throwing deep, which I think happened on the Meachem throw. If I remember correctly that was their plan on defense under Coyer when they started so well, but then half way through the season the opposing coordinators were ready. It doesn’t look like they have forgotten.

"It's the first time that I've probably ever seen a 260 pound back run into a free safety and go flat on his back, I mean it was exciting." ~John Elway

by jibbons on Sep 22, 2008 11:12 AM MDT to parent up   0 recs

Yea, but our own timidness on D is allowing 15 play 95 yard drives for TDs. lol

You gotta bring the pressure and our defensive backs need to stay in coverage.

If God is not a Bronco fan, then WHY are sunsets Blue and Orange? - Jon Tollerud 5/22/08

by Zappa on Sep 22, 2008 12:09 PM MDT to parent up   0 recs

and by blitz

I hope you don’t mean zone-blitz. That’s ok sometimes but for the most part our zone-blitzes have not succeeded in doing much of anything, besides giving up a play. It would be good if it was creating pressure, but it simply isn’t. Four people aren’t getting it done in any regard. More need to come at the QB.

by poorboywilly on Sep 22, 2008 1:15 PM MDT to parent up   0 recs

I think you were fair with Cutler

Being a huge fan doesn’t mean you don’t grade honestly. Cutler has shown the ability to thread the needle (thinking of the pass to Stokley) but also loses control of the ball either because he simply guns it too much or throws the short hop pass (thinking of his pass that fell short to BMARSH on a 3rd down play in the 2nd half). That being said, the skies the limit for Cutler and we’re lucky to watch him blossom into an NFL Super Star!

I wish Woody Paige was our coach!

by bcfunk on Sep 22, 2008 11:06 AM MDT   0 recs

Sorry but I would give coaching a C-

The defensive coaching I would give an F-, that scheme fooled no one and probably should of lost us the game, Shannan’s/Bates game plan seemed to be about the same as it was for the San Diego game, and the Saints started getting wise to it, we adandoned the running game for too long of streches, and I really think this three headed back system is not working, I think they need to establish a primary back and work the other two in when needed.

D-Line I give a D, yes the run defense looked great on the goal line and at the end of the game, but I credit much of that to DJ, Boss, and Webster getting some much needed penetration and filling the holes. The pass rush stunk, they should of rushed one guy and dropped 10 back in coverage, it would of been as effective.

"How do the berries taste Ralph?" Bart Simpson
"They taste like burning." Ralph Wigam
Broncoman

by Broncoman on Sep 22, 2008 11:38 AM MDT   0 recs

Rope-A-Dope Defense

II’m getting a bit impatient with a defense that seems reactive more than proactive. Bring back Larry Coyer. This idea of rushing three and covering with six is not working. If the QB has time to stop for lunch during a play, the secondary is going to look bad . . . I don’t care if you have Champ, Deion, Willie Brown, and Darrell Green in their primes back there.

They seriously need to upgrade their DL, especially DE, and I don’t mean wasting a #1 and #3 to reach for a project player (Moss).

Nonetheless, I generally like the grades you gave, Guru. I believe the running game will improve as the young OL improves. The Broncos have the guns at RB . . . although I am excited to see what Torain can do.

I might qualify my allusion toward the defense. Yes, significant improvement is in order there. However, part of their difficulties can be attributed to the “A” performance of one Drew Brees.

And yes, I agree with Broncoman regarding the defensive coaching. I do believe the offensive and ST coaches deserved a B+, but I would give no better than a D to the defensive side. It goes back to the Rope-A-Dope defense they have seemed to employ . . . sit back and wait for them to bust you in the chops

Never argue with a fool, lest you take on his appearance. - my daddy

by AZDynamics on Sep 22, 2008 11:44 AM MDT   0 recs

I approve this message.

If God is not a Bronco fan, then WHY are sunsets Blue and Orange? - Jon Tollerud 5/22/08

by Zappa on Sep 22, 2008 12:09 PM MDT to parent up   0 recs

That is where I disagree with you guys...

I would rather give a higher grade to a defense that, struggled but scored a touchdown and came up with huge stops when they HAD to have them than to a defense that played well through out but gave up a big play in the end to lose the game. Call me crazy, but winning does affect the overall grade.

-TSG

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by TheSportsGuru on Sep 22, 2008 12:18 PM MDT to parent up   0 recs

Thank YOU!!!!!

I agree with you 100%. If Denver doesnt make the 4th and goal stop and the 3rd and 1 stop this could be a loss. Maybe I am a glass half full guy, but I saw improvements over last week

Love is a razor and I have walked the line on that silver blade

by broncfanstuckinsd on Sep 22, 2008 12:27 PM MDT to parent up   0 recs

OMG our defense sucks!

heheheh…sorry, just got done reading your comment on another thread and I couldn’t help myself. :)

If God is not a Bronco fan, then WHY are sunsets Blue and Orange? - Jon Tollerud 5/22/08

by Zappa on Sep 22, 2008 12:49 PM MDT to parent up   0 recs

LOL

dont get me wrong its by no means top 10, but they are getting better and have made stops that did eventually lead to a win.

Love is a razor and I have walked the line on that silver blade

by broncfanstuckinsd on Sep 22, 2008 1:17 PM MDT to parent up   0 recs

They make the stops that keep them from BLOWING the game for the offense...

I’ll give you that. ;-)

If God is not a Bronco fan, then WHY are sunsets Blue and Orange? - Jon Tollerud 5/22/08

by Zappa on Sep 22, 2008 1:33 PM MDT to parent up   0 recs

I'm with Guru here

7 points from the defense is huge, and 3 4th down stops is huge. Keep in mind that NO ran 78 plays everybody. That is on the offense as well as the defense. Our defense played the equivalent of two games out there, between 4 play scoring drives for our offense and a couple of ugly turnovers in the redzone.

Don’t leave out the defensive effort that got us an 18 point lead and made a great NO offense look horrible early in the game. Can we call out the defense on its adjustments. Yes, but cover 8 is a legit defense (hoosierteacher explained elsewhere that the 3man rush IS NOT a prevent style defense), especially when the QB has yet to prove he can make plays witha banged up receiving corp and we had held Bush to nada early.

Just like against SD our defense forced a great offense to play the best football it could early, and then suffered from being on the field too long when the offense failed to get and keep momentum. There are adjustments to make but this is a legit 3-0 team, probably more so than most any other 3-0 team right now, at least in the AFC.

Mountains, forest, sea: these render man fierce, but yet do not destroy the man.

by styg50 on Sep 22, 2008 12:27 PM MDT to parent up   0 recs

Ok...I am sold. You, Guru, and BFSISD have convinced me

things aren’t as bad as they appear. Our D just has this feeling of being as sturdy as a house of cards…. I’ll play the wait and see game for the next couple of weeks. If we beat KC 41-40 next week, I will be pissed off. Just so you know. :)

If God is not a Bronco fan, then WHY are sunsets Blue and Orange? - Jon Tollerud 5/22/08

by Zappa on Sep 22, 2008 12:51 PM MDT to parent up   0 recs

PREACH IT BROTHER

Ahmen. Totally agree with your sentiment.

by metalman5050 on Sep 22, 2008 5:55 PM MDT to parent up   0 recs

You gave Cutler a B last week even though

he threw for 100 more yards, 2 more TDs. You are a tough grader dude. I’d hate to see what grade you would give me on quality of comment. lol (No need to respond, - please) lol

If God is not a Bronco fan, then WHY are sunsets Blue and Orange? - Jon Tollerud 5/22/08

by Zappa on Sep 22, 2008 12:49 PM MDT to parent up   0 recs

Last week...

He threw an INT in the end zone in the 4th quarter….those are three separate point deductions….

-TSG

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by TheSportsGuru on Sep 22, 2008 12:53 PM MDT to parent up   0 recs

Cutler after three games:

73/108 67.6% for 914 yards, 8TD, 2 INT (3-0)

Overall Grade?

If God is not a Bronco fan, then WHY are sunsets Blue and Orange? - Jon Tollerud 5/22/08

by Zappa on Sep 22, 2008 1:05 PM MDT to parent up   0 recs

A

3-0

Love is a razor and I have walked the line on that silver blade

by broncfanstuckinsd on Sep 22, 2008 1:14 PM MDT to parent up   0 recs

Yes, I agree TSG

I think it’s too easy to blame the scheme rather than the personnel. An obvious failing is the lack of a pass rush which is primarily a personnel shortcoming. I have to balk at the tendency to assume the coaching staff is to blame and not the players. One conclusion I came to during the New Orleans game, which I hope to confirm if given the chance to re-view the game, is that some of the attempts to provide more pass rush were backfiring and leading to big plays for NO’s offense.

I’m not exonerating the coaching staff for failing to come up with a solution, but aspects of the problem appear somewhat intractable. However, I’d like to gain a little more insight on the defense’s problems through seeing them against some average offenses rather than the last two. It’s hardly a secret that we’ve needed an influx of defensive talent for some time. Other than Dumervil, there has been negligible contributions from any draftees. And another part of the problem is that team success is the metric we use to infer individual success, and this is clearly mediocre defense, in the collective. I believe the addition of some superior talent into the mix on defense could make make some of the other players much better, paradoxically.

by Colinski on Sep 22, 2008 8:28 PM MDT to parent up   0 recs

One other thing I want to add on the coaching

Taking that safety was a poor call, I know it is at the end of the half, but you had to know that the Saints would be bringing the house, throw a quick pass to Royal or Marshall and I guareentee we would of had a 99-TD at the end of the half.

In addition, once we got the ball back from the missed FG in the 4th quarter, I thought we needed to take a shot on second down at getting a first by running a play action fake, if no one was open, have Jay take a sack and stay in bounds, if someone was open, we get a first down and don’t have to punt to Bush.

"How do the berries taste Ralph?" Bart Simpson
"They taste like burning." Ralph Wigam
Broncoman

by Broncoman on Sep 22, 2008 11:48 AM MDT   0 recs

that deep handoff was a laugher

but I think that secretly, Shanny was chuckling to himself when it got called. Bates will NEVER make that mistake again. A valuable learning experience for a very risky playcaller.

Mountains, forest, sea: these render man fierce, but yet do not destroy the man.

by styg50 on Sep 22, 2008 12:34 PM MDT to parent up   0 recs

as a follow-up

Was Kern told to kick it away from Bush to the point that he kicked it out of bounds (which I doubt) or just keep it away from Bush? Maybe it was just a shank, but that hurt! Kind of like the punts that Paulescu had in SD last Christmas Eve.

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by DesertBroncoFan on Sep 22, 2008 12:37 PM MDT to parent up   0 recs

excellent reminder!

That was a doozy, giving them the ball at the 50. I really, really hope that it wasn’t a judgment call on his part, and that he just forgot that kickoffs can’t go out of bounds….

Mountains, forest, sea: these render man fierce, but yet do not destroy the man.

by styg50 on Sep 22, 2008 1:06 PM MDT to parent up   0 recs

hmmm....

I wonder if that played a part in why Paulescu isn’t on the team now. I really though Paulescu won the punting battle in the preseason games….lol forgot about that shanks last season….

I think I associate all of the 2007 punting with “He who must not be named who punts right at Devin Hester!”.

If God is not a Bronco fan, then WHY are sunsets Blue and Orange? - Jon Tollerud 5/22/08

by Zappa on Sep 22, 2008 3:38 PM MDT to parent up   0 recs

Good point

I have no idea what Kern was doing, he looked confused when he came over to the bench after the punt. But I thought he did a great job on the last punt by pinning Bush in the corner.

"How do the berries taste Ralph?" Bart Simpson
"They taste like burning." Ralph Wigam
Broncoman

by Broncoman on Sep 22, 2008 3:04 PM MDT to parent up   0 recs

awareness of the rule for Free Kicks

I didn’t know the rule and I wonder if Kern didn’t either — or, at least, it wasn’t foremost in his mind. I haven’t seen many safeties lately and I didn’t recall the rules governing free kicks. We can at least conclude that he cut his margin for error a little too slim.

by Colinski on Sep 22, 2008 9:24 PM MDT to parent up   0 recs

We do seem to be improving

No doubt there is plenty of room for more improvement, but I think we continue to get better on all teams: offense, defense, and special teams.

Having said that, I’d still like more risk-taking on offense and defense. On offense, Broncoman’s call of play action from our end zone is a great one. On defense, we did bring pressure occasionally — add in a well-timed and/or disguised blitz and we might have made some damage.

This team seems at its best when it’s most aggressive. Better to gamble and give ourselves a chance for something great than to settle for watching the secondary get toasted all day.

by CoastalBronco on Sep 22, 2008 12:44 PM MDT   0 recs

I hope things get better--we seem to start out fine--and then lose it.

This reeks to me of a defense coaching problem that seems unable to make proper ajustments. If this is not the problem—then it gets worse—our defense stinks.

I am glad to be at KC next week—hopefully we have a good defensive showing—if not even I will have to agree that this season could get rough. We are fortunate (the next two weeks) to be facing a couple teams that are not playing very well—but can’t keep winning with luck. We need to smah someone and put them away.

Oh well, I better cut this short, la-la-land is about to spew me out if I don’t shut up.

Oh, one more thing, lest we forget just how important Cutler is to this team—take a look at Miami-NE.

Broncos broncos everywhere and all the league did blink,
Broncos broncos everywhere think moldy faiders stink!

by Mike Clark on Sep 22, 2008 12:51 PM MDT   0 recs

There, I feel better

I would like to thank Silver for my new avatar.

Broncos broncos everywhere and all the league did blink,
Broncos broncos everywhere think moldy faiders stink!

by Mike Clark on Sep 22, 2008 12:55 PM MDT   0 recs

nice.

If God is not a Bronco fan, then WHY are sunsets Blue and Orange? - Jon Tollerud 5/22/08

by Zappa on Sep 22, 2008 1:02 PM MDT to parent up   0 recs

I also changed my signature to better fit the times!

The best defense is a good offense!
I hope.

by Mike Clark on Sep 22, 2008 1:04 PM MDT to parent up   0 recs

I'd settle for

“The best defense is to PLAY defense!”

Not that it matters if we continue to score 38 pts a game.

If God is not a Bronco fan, then WHY are sunsets Blue and Orange? - Jon Tollerud 5/22/08

by Zappa on Sep 22, 2008 1:06 PM MDT to parent up   0 recs

Believe you quote Plato

..or so I learned when I was an undergraduate philosophy major four decades ago! There is a passage in “Republic” where he gives his take on how logical this is.

"I told him (Montrae), don't worry, you'll pass out before you die" -- Rick Tuten

by littletinybroncos on Sep 22, 2008 3:07 PM MDT to parent up   0 recs

I love it!

"Let's get this thing fired up" - 'Deuce' Shanahan

by Colorado_Kitten on Sep 22, 2008 1:02 PM MDT to parent up   0 recs

thanks Kitten!

The best defense is a good offense!
I hope.

by Mike Clark on Sep 22, 2008 1:06 PM MDT to parent up   0 recs

I have to go with C+ overall

The reason? Because this team is capable of so much more. Dre Bly was right, the Saints should never even have been in this one. The offense was a little off yesterday and although the O Line kept Cutler largely upright they did get pushed around a bit. But, given how strong the offense has been so far this year plus how young they are, it is hard to fault them for having a bit of an off day. You can’t play at the level they did against the Bolts every week.

Obviously I am more concerned about the defense. The total inability to mount a pass rush will be this team’s undoing. We have a lot of solid individual players on defense but when you give a guy like Drew Brees that much time he’ll pick you part, no matter how many all pros you have back there. Brees was back there making phone calls waiting for guys to get open all day.

I imagine when Dumervil gets his hand back he’ll be able to take it up a notch but he can’t be our only legitimate pass rush threat. Hopefully the Broncos can make some moves in that area this week against a weaker team like KC, and see some results.

I hope the run blocking improves, since this was the lowest rushing output so far this year. We still won the game but as was mentioned above – you have to do the little things consistently to be a playoff level team.

That said, I generally like what I see so far, and let’s be honest – part of the fun has been watching this team develop and grow. Hard to say where this year will go but it looks like it won’t be a dull ride!

by TheMastermind on Sep 22, 2008 1:16 PM MDT   0 recs

Did anybody notice that huge chunk of skin taken out of B-Marsh's forearm?

I saw the play where a saint DB"s face mask just ripped out a huge piece of flesh and the cameras were fucused on B-Marsh just staring at this hole in his arm in the huddle.

Solid B- effort overall. The 21-3 point lead de ja vu makes me worry about complacency on the field.

Michael Fabiano really knows nothing about football outside of regression analysis and stat extrapolation. If it doesn’t have to do with fantasy football, his opinion is worthless.

by kwool79 on Sep 22, 2008 1:24 PM MDT   0 recs

I noticed that too...I thought it was his scar from the McDonald's bag incident....

Shanny just said in his live press conference that the Broncos are playing a more 3-4 Defense during the last game….

If God is not a Bronco fan, then WHY are sunsets Blue and Orange? - Jon Tollerud 5/22/08

by Zappa on Sep 22, 2008 1:34 PM MDT to parent up   0 recs

Thoughts

Good debate…here’s my 2 cents:

B overall (win counts, Defensive improvement seen, ST way better)

Offense: A: Even with J struggling they were potent to say the least.

Defense: C: They gave up a lot of yards, but if you look back they made a bunch more impact plays this game than against SD. goal line stand??? Are you kidding me?

I will say that the defensive play calling and DL need work for sure. We NEED pressure. I have great confidence in our DBs and LBs, but we need a rush. So either get some personnel to address this or start bringing in some more blitz packages…especially on 3rd and long!

To the Defense’s credit keep in mind SD and NO are superb offensive teams. I think our Defense can be really good, but we’ll know in the next 2 games. If KC throws on us like NO and SD, then we have some SERIOUS problems. :)

by sadaraine on Sep 22, 2008 1:48 PM MDT   0 recs

I give a C+

our defense looked bad but they did make plays when they had to like on the 4th down and the nate webster touchdown. But still, we NEED to get pressure on the QB!!! Jay and B-Marsh and the rest of the offense didnt have their best game either( how many points left behind did we have?!?), but i think every team in the NFL would love their offense’s to score 27 points on a bad day. i hope we can address these problems this week before we play the missouri indians.

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