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MHR Chalk Talk -- Week 4 - Denver Broncos at KC Chiefs (part two)

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Yesterday we took a look at both sides of the ball for both teams, and looked at some adjustment issues.  We also tried to come up with a game plan for KC.  Today, let's look at Denver's possibilites, as well as what we can do with system match-ups.

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Chalk_talk_medium Game planning is tricky to do when your weapons are down to a third string QB, and an injured MLB and CB.  On the other hand, Denver is healthy and has a lot of weapons.

Game Planning - Denver

Denver has three choices.  They can stick with the air show that is leading the League in points so far.  They can also run the ball (but why?).  They can also balance their attack.  I'm a big advocate of a balanced attack, but not for this game.  On paper, the mismatch between Denver and KC looks large enough that Denver should just throw the ball early and often.  Surtain might be out at CB, and Edwards is out at MLB.  If the secondaries of the Raiders, Chargers, and Saints can't sto the air war, how can KC?

If Denver gets the early lead, KC is forced to use a third string QB to throw the ball against an elite secondary.  Their only hope would be the terrible pass rush of Denver.

System Match Ups

Denver is transitioning away from a pure "West Coast" offense, and seems to be using more of a spread offense.  Denver also seems to have abandoned their run first philosophy (while keeping the zone block).  However, Denver still manages good yardage per carries.

KC uses a two gap approach at DT, anchored by draft star Dorsey.  This should make the zone block a little less efficient for Denver, but the loss of Edwards at MLB should more than make up for this.  Denver can run wide, and take advantage of KC's narrow formation, or try the gut and challenge the back-up at MLB.  But why bother?

KC is not the team they were in the secondary in seasons past.  Losses at SAF and CB in the offseason have led to a down turn in quality.  The biggest name now is Surtain, who is injured and questionable for this weekend.  Denver can (and should) give Jay the ball and tell him to let it fly.

As banged up as KC is, and with their talent, they may be tempted to zone a lot.  Underneath, Royal has proven he can curl and hook like few others.  Also underneath, Marshall has shown he can outmuscle most defenders, and get yards after the carry.

If the Chiefs go too tight, Royal is speed demon.  Stokley remains one of the best (if not the best) slot receivers in the NFL, and can keep the Chiefs from doubling up on either Marshall or Royal.  If KC tries to flood the field with DBs, any of three Denver TEs are mismatches for the KC OLBs or SAFs.

Below, members of the Secret Service, also known as the Denver Offensive Line.  They have kept King Cutler untouched in three games so far.

Secret Service - the early days by MattyNabib.

On defense, Denver is a work in progress.  While this isn't great news for Denver fans, it will cause confusion for KC.  Does Denver come out with a 3-4, as they did against the Saints?  Will Denver make some tweaks with personnel, allignments, or schemes to improve the pass rush, or just start blitzing?

Gonzales (TE) and Johnson (RB) are the heart of the KC offense right now.  I'm going out on a limb and predicting that Denver will use LOLB Boss Bailey to cover Gonzales, freeing up SS Manuel to either play run support or deep zone.  Shanahan was quoted saying he likes the speed that Boss brings to the table, and thinks he can hang with the TEs out there.  I'm not sure who wins such a match-up, but it frees up the rest of the defense if Boss can slow Gonzales.

Johnson is another story.  As poor as the KC OL has been for awhile, Johnson is a tough, physical running back.  If Denver's DL isn't firing on all cylinders, Johnson is the guy to take advantage.  Unfortunately for KC, if Denver is able to score early and often in the air, Johnson won't be allowed to be a factor.

Whereas other teams have shot it out with Denver and stayed toe to toe, it is probably asking too much of KC's Huard to do the same without turning the ball over.

Keys to the Game

Denver

  1. Get the early lead, and force KC to air the ball.
  2. Stop the run, force the pass.
  3. Don't allow the big plays that can allow KC a shot at the game.

KC

  1. Do whatever it takes to keep the game close.
  2. Find a way to get to Cutler.
  3. Pray.

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Denver is undefeated, KC is winless.  KCs big ace in the hole is that they always play us tough (though we swept them during the dark year of '07).  The game is in KC, always a tough venue for Denver.

Still, on paper it's hard to see how Denver loses this game.  Denver only needs to take the game seriously and play hard for four quarters to ensure a win, and a very possible blowout.

Poll
Denver...
Wins by 21 or more points
232 votes
Wins by 10 or more points.
189 votes
Wins by less than 10
22 votes
Loses in an upset
21 votes

464 votes | Poll has closed

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La La Land residents:

Vote 21 points or more.

Do your patriotic duty.

If God is not a Bronco fan, then WHY are sunsets Blue and Orange? - Jon Tollerud 5/22/08

by Zappa on Sep 25, 2008 3:12 PM MDT   0 recs

I have done my duty Zappa!

To have striven, to have made the effort, to have been true to certain ideals - this alone is worth the struggle. - William Penn

Tom Arnold, of Fox Sports Net's Best Damn Sports Show Period, said this about Warren Sapp: "Hey, Warren, the Raiders signed you to a seven-year deal. I guess Bill Callahan was right --- they are the dumbest team in America."

by Philistine21 on Sep 25, 2008 3:19 PM MDT to parent up   0 recs

Same Here!

"It's all over Fat Man" - Tom Jackson to John Madden 1977 AFC Championship Game

"I love your analysis of our team. Its kinda like watching a spider monkey trying to figure out a jar of peanuts.. you know whats going on.. you know whats in there, but to actually figure it out, is just a bit beyond your mental skills..."
- Bronco Dano

by DesertBroncoFan on Sep 25, 2008 3:25 PM MDT to parent up   0 recs

Hah, me too!

There is only One Moment—this moment—the Eternal Moment of Now

by sirsam on Sep 25, 2008 3:39 PM MDT to parent up   0 recs

O.K., even me.

Though I’m not yet ready to apply for a permanent visa to La La Land, lol. Get back to me in a few weeks.

If this be Hell, let us make the most of it!

by Trinidad Jack on Sep 25, 2008 6:06 PM MDT to parent up   0 recs

Heck Yeah!

We win, and we win BIG!

The only team that has looked worse than the chiefs is the rams, and not by much. We should take advantage of this and pad our offensive stats some more. Its the NFL, if they can’t stop you then thats just too bad.

by hai17 on Sep 25, 2008 9:37 PM MDT to parent up   0 recs

Where's my

31 points or more option? In la-la land, the Chiefs really are that terrible.

by jonahsilas on Sep 26, 2008 1:47 AM MDT to parent up   0 recs

Being a resident in chiefs country

I have seen every chiefs game this year (not that I have wanted to really) and I have to also vote we win by 21 or more :-)

by Stuman on Sep 26, 2008 10:45 AM MDT to parent up   0 recs

awesome avatar!

fader nation is a conquered nation

"Jerry Jones is Al Davis with a smile!"

The creator of the following names: conquered fader nation, Phyllis and his merry men

by mdierk on Sep 26, 2008 12:33 PM MDT to parent up   0 recs

I agree

If God is not a Bronco fan, then WHY are sunsets Blue and Orange? - Jon Tollerud 5/22/08

by Zappa on Sep 26, 2008 4:23 PM MDT to parent up   0 recs

i love the alternate logo

the “bucking bronco” i heard it called once, or whatever he’s doing. it should be on the helmet. i wish i could find more merchandise with it, it was around alot during the back-back celebratory seasons. bring it back!

hear me, perpetrators of bread crime, your punishment is at hand.
taste my blintzkrieg!

by davecheffy on Sep 26, 2008 11:27 PM MDT to parent up   0 recs

don't be overconfident folks......

if the team is not focused on winning, then a team like KC can sneak up on you.

fader nation is a conquered nation

"Jerry Jones is Al Davis with a smile!"

The creator of the following names: conquered fader nation, Phyllis and his merry men

by mdierk on Sep 25, 2008 3:18 PM MDT   0 recs

Shanahan will have them ready.

To have striven, to have made the effort, to have been true to certain ideals - this alone is worth the struggle. - William Penn

Tom Arnold, of Fox Sports Net's Best Damn Sports Show Period, said this about Warren Sapp: "Hey, Warren, the Raiders signed you to a seven-year deal. I guess Bill Callahan was right --- they are the dumbest team in America."

by Philistine21 on Sep 25, 2008 3:19 PM MDT to parent up   0 recs

mdierk, banishment!

Seriously though, all signs point to the fact that our team is very focused. All a player needs is to see our record at KC over the past 15 years. 3-10 anyone?

If God is not a Bronco fan, then WHY are sunsets Blue and Orange? - Jon Tollerud 5/22/08

by Zappa on Sep 25, 2008 3:26 PM MDT to parent up   0 recs

at least Cutler is 1-0 there....

I didn’t think I was even in La La Land anyway

fader nation is a conquered nation

"Jerry Jones is Al Davis with a smile!"

The creator of the following names: conquered fader nation, Phyllis and his merry men

by mdierk on Sep 25, 2008 3:57 PM MDT to parent up   0 recs

You will be in a couple of months...personally anyway :)

If God is not a Bronco fan, then WHY are sunsets Blue and Orange? - Jon Tollerud 5/22/08

by Zappa on Sep 25, 2008 4:01 PM MDT to parent up   0 recs

They'll be ready to play...trust me!

There is only One Moment—this moment—the Eternal Moment of Now

by sirsam on Sep 25, 2008 3:40 PM MDT to parent up   0 recs

Let's go get 'em

I am not going to take them lightly even as a fan, however I am confident because Jay allready knows what the place is like. Our offense shouldn’t miss a beat and I would like to see some sacks/pressure of some sort from the defense.

"It doesn't dissipate" ~ Mike Shanahan

Cutler's 4th qtr/OT game winning drives: 4

by weazel on Sep 25, 2008 3:53 PM MDT   0 recs

I believe U R probubly right

I think that it will B a break out game for the Denver D!

by metalman5050 on Sep 25, 2008 6:34 PM MDT to parent up   0 recs

we the bomb like tick, tick

Way To Go Rookie!

by AllinWithMyCards on Sep 25, 2008 4:33 PM MDT   0 recs

Tick, tick, tick

What do you want to bet that KC tries to cut the green wire?

Uh, uh. It is ALWAYS the orange wire!!!

Boom! in 3 days… :)

Mountains, forest, sea: these render man fierce, but yet do not destroy the man.

by styg50 on Sep 25, 2008 4:42 PM MDT to parent up   0 recs

Though I can't lay claim to it,

I’m glad we have a vote for “loses in an upset.” It’s good luck….like the errant stitch in an Amish quilt/Persian rug to demonstrate that none is perfect except God/Allah. Thanks to whoever is out there pricking our hubris.

Unless you’re just a Chiefs fan, in which case you’re just wrong….

by Broncs Cheer on Sep 25, 2008 4:47 PM MDT   0 recs

It had to be a Chiefs fan...unless the DP writers are voting too...

If God is not a Bronco fan, then WHY are sunsets Blue and Orange? - Jon Tollerud 5/22/08

by Zappa on Sep 25, 2008 4:51 PM MDT to parent up   0 recs

good question!

I don’t know.

"Greater is an army of sheep led by a lion, than an army of lions led by a sheep" Defoe

by hoosierteacher on Sep 25, 2008 5:31 PM MDT to parent up   0 recs

Check your email...there is a button you have to click before you submit your post. :)

I forgot to click it the other day also, but figured it out eventually. lol

If God is not a Bronco fan, then WHY are sunsets Blue and Orange? - Jon Tollerud 5/22/08

by Zappa on Sep 25, 2008 5:58 PM MDT to parent up   0 recs

I am not in LA LA LAND...

and I went by more than 21. Should it not be by more than 35 in LA LA Land????
I think our boys are ready….offense, special teams and defense and we will crush the Chiefs.

by boydy2669 on Sep 25, 2008 6:48 PM MDT   0 recs

21+

It just has to be “the biggest game, in terms of point spread, for the year.”

“The Teacher” laid it out and I’m buying it! I think that the Denver D will have a breakout game, and will score, not once, but twice! Jay will throw 5 TD’s and 0 INT’s. The Broncos will create a whopping 500 + yards, on offense, and the Denver D will hold KC under 200 yrds!

If that isn’t LA LA LAND, then it simply doesn’t exist.

by metalman5050 on Sep 25, 2008 6:48 PM MDT   0 recs

With my 5000th comment, I hereby proclaim that you

Metalman 5050 to be public relations director of La La Land. lol Just don’t treat us like the Raiders PR director. ;)

49-0…any rushing scores?

If God is not a Bronco fan, then WHY are sunsets Blue and Orange? - Jon Tollerud 5/22/08

by Zappa on Sep 25, 2008 7:17 PM MDT to parent up   0 recs

5000 comments! Really?

I mean I believe you and you know we all love you, but seriously my friend, there is more to life, lol.

If this be Hell, let us make the most of it!

by Trinidad Jack on Sep 26, 2008 11:49 AM MDT to parent up   0 recs

lol. I've lived in isolation my entire life as far as my fandom is concerned.

You fine people are the only Bronco fans I’ve ever known…perhaps I am just making up for all those years of not being able to share in my Broncomania.

If God is not a Bronco fan, then WHY are sunsets Blue and Orange? - Jon Tollerud 5/22/08

by Zappa on Sep 26, 2008 12:14 PM MDT to parent up   0 recs

its rough

being a Broncomaniac out here. But nothing was sweeter than winning the Denver’s forst Super Bowl here.

Love is a razor and I have walked the line on that silver blade

by broncfanstuckinsd on Sep 26, 2008 1:09 PM MDT to parent up   0 recs

That 1st win WAS so sweet!

Here’s to many more! I feel a dynasty is a real possibility.

If this be Hell, let us make the most of it!

by Trinidad Jack on Sep 26, 2008 2:50 PM MDT to parent up   0 recs

I had lots of friends that worked for Qualcomm at the time

and none of them could get me tickets!

What good are they?

"It's all over Fat Man" - Tom Jackson to John Madden 1977 AFC Championship Game

"I love your analysis of our team. Its kinda like watching a spider monkey trying to figure out a jar of peanuts.. you know whats going on.. you know whats in there, but to actually figure it out, is just a bit beyond your mental skills..."
- Bronco Dano

by DesertBroncoFan on Sep 26, 2008 3:00 PM MDT to parent up   0 recs

Dude, I lived on the other side of I-8 and somewhat to the East

But I could see Qualcomm from my balcony of the condo I was living in and that was a glorious day.

If God is not a Bronco fan, then WHY are sunsets Blue and Orange? - Jon Tollerud 5/22/08

by Zappa on Sep 26, 2008 4:25 PM MDT to parent up   0 recs

5000? Congratulations Zappa!

It seems like yesterday I sent congrats on 4,000!

That’s ok with me. We’re playing for wins, not media publicity....HT 9/11/08

by firstfan on Sep 26, 2008 6:58 PM MDT to parent up   0 recs

probably was. I enjoy milestones.

though i think it was 3000…i think i missed the 4000 milestone. they come and go so quickly. :D

If God is not a Bronco fan, then WHY are sunsets Blue and Orange? - Jon Tollerud 5/22/08

by Zappa on Sep 26, 2008 9:19 PM MDT to parent up   0 recs

LA LA LAND? No way! Just trying to give Ya'll the facts as I see it in Nastyville, Tn.

When you live in Denver, as I did, back when John was QB, (I wish I WAS THERE) YOU COULD NOT HELP but be a fan. Now we have JAY, need I say more? I watched him play for Vandy!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

by metalman5050 on Sep 25, 2008 7:46 PM MDT   0 recs

i'm gonna go with 41-24, broncos

only because of the change to huard, still somewhat shaky coverage units, and the possibility of letting bowe/gonzalez/rb’s run free on 3rd down. i expect to see more of a running attack, too, on both sides. a physical test for the run d, here, but we should be stacking the box on early downs, again. gonzalez should break sharpe’s record, but i think scheff, or stokely, will outdo him. i can’t help but wonder if we are going to try and round out our game(balance) and change it up on both sides of the ball in this one. this is my suicide pick this week, so they had better not give me a heart-attack like buffalo did last week!

hear me, perpetrators of bread crime, your punishment is at hand.
taste my blintzkrieg!

by davecheffy on Sep 26, 2008 11:55 PM MDT   0 recs

Agree

I feel you on the survivor pick last week. I had the Giants, and they gave me a heart attack against Cincy. I thought about going with Denver this week, but I didn’t want to jinx us. So I went with SD over Oak. That way I win no matter what happens.

All Ready
~D Will

by Best In The West on Sep 27, 2008 7:18 AM MDT to parent up   0 recs

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