Horse Tracks 9/30/08
Here's a Tuesday edition of Horse Tracks. Enjoy!
Clifford Russell is hoping to play soon. He should be thankful he is able to walk. See here
Looks like the critics are letting the Broncos have it this week. See here
Tony Gonzalez was upset that he couldn't get his precious yardage record this past Sunday. See here
Sam Adams wonders who will Denver stop this season. See here
Shanny told the media yesterday that the offense was the main culprit in the loss. See here and here
Maybe the defense will improve with age. See here
The Rocky Mountain News gave an overview of the first quarter of the season. See here
A writer gave a list of some books for us to read about our beloved Broncos. See here
Denver's rushing attack is ranked 14th. They haven't been that way since Wade Phillips was coaching there. See here
Mike Klis answered some angry letters. See here
The Bucs are winning despite the turnovers. See here
NFL News/Bottom of the Barrel
Looks like Ed Hochuli blew another call Sunday. See here
Here we go again folks! The conquered fader nation is firing Lane Kiffin (maybe?). Even Shanny didn't get treated like this! See here
At least the Rams did it quickly. See here
Some sad news. Jaguars lineman Richard Collier is paralyzed and lost a leg from a shooting earlier this month. See here
That's all I have. Enjoy your day!
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I can't stand Tony Gonzalez.
“Oh, I’m angry that I couldn’t get my precious yard total at home :`( Waaaaaaaaaahhh.”
I would have laughed my ass off if they would have thrown him his three yard pass on that last drive, and Champ would have picked it off and returned it for the game-tying touchdown. And on that touchdown when he got “hurt?” Yeah, he was faking. He should win an Emmy for that. Seriously, that got the crowd into the game more than anything that happened on the field. They were all standing and chanting “Ton-y! Ton-y!” while he sat there and smiled. It was disgusting.
3-0.
I don't really have any problem with him
however I am glad he didn’t get to break Shannon Sharpe’s record against us in KC. He’ll have the record, yet Shannon is the better TE, who has 3 SBs.
"It doesn't dissipate" ~ Mike Shanahan
Cutler's 4th qtr/OT game winning drives: 4
Clifford Russell is just trying to live his dream...
sometimes dreams are worth a risk as scary as losing your ability to walk. I know if I had a chance I would take that chance…
If God is not a Bronco fan, then WHY are sunsets Blue and Orange? - Jon Tollerud 5/22/08
Shanny made my point ...
In the Grades post I said the offense and STs were mostly to blame for the loss and my mind hasn’t changed. Four turnovers on the road doesn’t do your defense any favors. Neither does allowing 86 yards on two kick returns. The defense gave up a lot of points to San Diego & New Orleans, two high octane offenses, but made stops when they needed them. They did the same thing against KC except the offense kept putting them in terrible situations and eventually, you just don’t have the energy left to make a stop. Everybody needs to calm down about changing DCs and wait for the rest of the season to play. This is not a good defense but they are far from a terrible one.
Elway is in, Zimm is in but don't forget: Floyd Little, Randy Gradishar, Steve Atwater & Terrel Davis
by BlueNOrangeNIdaho on Sep 30, 2008 7:56 AM MDT reply actions
But 30+ points a game?
A lot of folks said “let’s see how bad the defense is when we play a poor offense like KC”. Well…
But I agree that changing out Slowik isn’t the answer yet.
"Greater is an army of sheep led by a lion, than an army of lions led by a sheep" Defoe
by Steve Nichols on Sep 30, 2008 8:09 AM MDT up reply actions
I see your point...
Since even the master-Raiders where able to hold the Chargers to under 30…I guess my point is as you say…leave Slowik alone until we find out if 30 PPG is a feature rather than a bug.
Elway is in, Zimm is in but don't forget: Floyd Little, Randy Gradishar, Steve Atwater & Terrel Davis
by BlueNOrangeNIdaho on Sep 30, 2008 8:24 AM MDT up reply actions
"This is not a good defense but they are far from a terrible one"?
Then how would you define a terrible defense?
GO BRONCOS!!!
by UnarmingMermaid on Sep 30, 2008 2:22 PM MDT up reply actions
My 2 1/2 cents.
Is Slowik the answer? Thats still up in the air. however changing defensive coordinators every year is whats REALLY hurt this team. They’ve never had the opportunity to have any consistency.
My personal opinion? I would of loved to have kept Larry Coyer. We had the best defense in the NFL for 1/2 the year, but due to our offense being on the field about 5 min a game, the defense wore DOWN by mid season.
So just imagine if we had that same defense now, with this offense. WOW… contenders. Of course we had pieces we’re missing now. ie Rough and Tough MLB Field General, and a Field Lieutenant S… and I suppose some better Grunts in the trench too.
by Chuck "DeadDrunk" Breedlove on Sep 30, 2008 10:12 AM MDT reply actions
whats up with less stories when we lose a game?
i know i havent posted since i signed up but i come here every single day and check this site every hour (i maybe sound like a denver bronco freak but i love my broncos) and usually have some new things posted up by mid day. but when we lose, there is nothing? whats up with that? i understand a lot of people must be hurting from last weeks game but cmon man we are 3-1!!! i know our defense is bad, maybe worse than last year, but i know for a fact that Ol’ Mike will have something for Tampa this week and i know the defense will be fired up!!!! and put something up about the Bucs; i stay in florida maybe about 45 min from tampa and all i hear about here is that the bucs are so physical they will stomp on the broncos…..AAARRARARAARARARHGGGGGGGGG !!!!!! But to end my statement here, the broncos will go 13-3 as i said when i signed up. they will lose to jacksonville and most likely the chargers game at the end of year ( i hope they dont and go 14-2) but i have faith!!!! thank you Hoosier teacher for sponging our brains with intelligent football analysis!!! and all of the mile high report community!! all of you guys make me proud to be a denver broncos fans, because we are a classy organization!!! GO BRONCOS 13-3
Kliis answers angry letters
It was interesting to see Kliis’ take on our priorities in the next draft:
If I had to handicap the Broncos’ 2009 draft, I’d say their top five priorities, in no particular order, would be defensive tackle, safety, middle linebacker, defensive end and cornerback. Then they can start looking at adding another receiver.
He — oddly — gives us his priorities and then qualifies his choice by saying “in no particular order,” but I have to believe his choices do reflect what he believes the ordering of Broncos’ priorities should be. The first three — DT, S & MLB — are what we’ve been saying, although sometimes in slightly different order.
I’ve been re-examining the Broncos’ needs once again (and some would say endlessly) and I think Kliis has hit the mark. And many of us, both here and in other fora, have been saying the same thing for some time. The question is merely which athletes will be available when the Broncos choose. We all recognize that Denver may be able to move if there is a player they covet, but I’ve been arguing lately that we should widen our focus rather than ‘lock in’ on particular athletes, often to the exclusion of other possibilities. I wasn’t unaware of this, but the presence of two possible impact MLBs made the prospect of drafting one of them an obvious way of solving some of our defensive problems.
My opinion has changed somewhat lately regarding the Broncos’ needs, I’m not as dead set on a MLB in the 1st round. Knowledgeable sources here at MHR have pointed out the that a MLB could have an immediate impact but recent defensive performances have highlighted our weaknesses on the DL. I still like the idea of a stellar MLB in the 1st round, such as Maualuga or Laurinaitis, but it’s too easy to over-estimate the importance of a stellar MLB and concommitantly underestimate the contribution of other positions.
I’m still a firm believer in the importance of being strong in the middle of the defense, but solving the problem of improving the Bronco defense requires an adaptable strategy; not a rigid one. It’s far too easy to imagine a great LB like Al Wilson coming in and fixing our problems but Al Wilsons are rare. Moreover, I don’t think a single LB could solve all our defensive problems. And our needs are many, which makes attacking the problem on multiple fronts a wise course of action. Another reason to employ this strategy is because drafts often don’t go off as planned. The best player available when the Broncos draft may be in a position other than our idealized solution to our weaknesses.
I’m not saying that we shouldn’t attempt to address our weaknesses if an attractive athlete in another area is available. I’m saying that a fluid strategy entails adapting to contingencies as they arise. We can still take the BPA, and in an area of need, but the sequence can change. I’d like to see them target the main areas of need — DT, S, MLB — but the order of addressing these areas can change as contingencies arise. I DO want them to see them address all of these areas (see Combination Drafting), and drafts almost always allow teams to do this. We will be able to address the target needs in the earlier rounds, there’s enough players available to allow this. Deviations from may come in in the areas such as DE, OLB and CB, along with some of the offensive positions. It’s likely that there will be OLs deemed draftworthy, even though it’s an area of strength. The strength of the draft at certain position makes it hard to pass on some players. The one thing I think the Broncos can’t deviate from is the recent emphasis on character. Also, their first consideration should be whether an athlete is a player. Physical metrics can be looked at once this is determined.
There is still work to be done on Denver’s defensive scheme — unfortunately. Some adjustments can be made but I don’t think the coaching staff has found the right answer yet. Some of the problems will diminish with the infusion of talent, but the scheme itself needs to be reevaluated. I’m really, really not a fan of frequent scheme changes because it robs the defense of desperately needed cohesion. However, there are advantages to schemes that allow the defense to throw the opponent’s offense off-stride. Fixing our personnel weaknesses is part of the solution but we still need to find the right scheme, and there’s no better time than when we rebuild the defense.
One added note — A recent comment by HT about big DEs paralleled my own thinking on the subject. There are a lot of DEs that look like Jarvis Moss in the upcoming draft. Although it’s a mistake to give up on a position because you’ve been burned (for instance, many Detroit fans didn’t like the idea of drafting Calvin Johnson because of past busts at WR), the real problem is that everyone has become a little too enamored with sacks. I’ve focused on some of the big DEs because we need a little more muscle up front. Sack specialist are fine but much of their success comes from pressure applied by their fellow DLs. It wouldn’t hurt to get a DE in the mold of Bruce Smith or Reggie White.
Here’s the top 100 NFL prospects.
I can’t speak to the accuracy of the report, but I heard on Fox Sports Radio that Davis is already refusing to pay his remaining contractual obligation to Kiffin?! The sad thing there is that by the time Kiffin is in position to exact his revenge Shannie-style, the Corpse will likely be dead.
I'm tired of hearing about money, money, money, money, money. I just want to play the game, drink Pepsi, wear Reebok.
Shaquille O'Neal
re: Kiffin and Al
Al owes Kiffin 3 million. You bet that’s going to end up in court.
If there's gonna be a collision, you better start it. Larry Csonka..
Oomph...
I WANT Kiffin on our staff. This is Shanahan, Part II, definately. Kiffin is going to come out of there with an inferno of hate for all things black and silver. It’s good to see another young knight on our side of the crusade.
3-0.
I just saw on the 4-letter network
that Kiffin is good friends with the Syracuse AD so that is a possibility for him (which releases Greg Robinson to come back – if Shanny will take him)!
"It's all over Fat Man" - Tom Jackson to John Madden 1977 AFC Championship Game
"I love your analysis of our team. Its kinda like watching a spider monkey trying to figure out a jar of peanuts.. you know whats going on.. you know whats in there, but to actually figure it out, is just a bit beyond your mental skills..."
- Bronco Dano
by DesertBroncoFan on Oct 1, 2008 8:25 AM MDT up reply actions
Al Davis said the won't honor Lane Kiffen's contract
because Al said he is being fired for cause. Here is a link with video clips
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3618813
Offensive line coach Tom Cable will be the interim coach as the Raiders search for their fifth coach in seven years. I hope Kiffen get every penny of the contract he signed. I think Kiffen is a smart young coach who will do well in his next opportunity.
I agree with papigrande below on the fact that this is Shanahan Part II: Bye Bye Kiffen.
"It doesn't dissipate" ~ Mike Shanahan
Cutler's 4th qtr/OT game winning drives: 4
Oh I can't wait for Guru's show Wednesday.
Boy is he going to go off on this one.
"It doesn't dissipate" ~ Mike Shanahan
Cutler's 4th qtr/OT game winning drives: 4

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