I Implore You: Do NOT look elsewhere (or anywhere) for analysis
Originally, I wanted to start a thread along the lines of Love Letter to MHR. But I'm in a crappy mood. Two reasons: 1) I have to wait 5 more nights until the Broncos and Raiders kick off on Monday night, and 2) I am literally at the point of nausea over coverage of the NFL by both the national and local media. Lately, it occurs to me (stole that from Jerry Garcia), that sportswriters and "analysts" are more terrified of being wrong than Donald Rumsfeld during the WMD fisaco.
Is it any surprise that sports personalities that are brash, brazen, and willing to really go out on a limb for what they believe are ushered into the national spotlight, SI's back page, or asked to host Jim Rome's radio show during one of Rome's 142 off-days a year? No. It's not. It's because everybody else is the same. Sure, maybe one guy is more analytical or funny than another guy, but when push comes to shove and these guys are asked to really talk about what they think in an upcoming game, they all crack and take the easy way out.
My axe to grind isn't so much with the guys like Bill Williamson or Peter King (who aren't without fault). They are "reporters". Yes, they weave their opinion into their articles at times, but their articles are there to tell you; sales guy in a cube on the internet, tax attorney reading the paper, or marketing production gal on her iphone, what is happening in the NFL, either with your team or the whole league. For the most part (discounting King's NYJ/NYG/NE slant), they do that, and they do it with a great deal of accuracy. Why, because they are reporting facts or insight. That's it. Feel free to read these "reporters'" articles with an open mind. Let these guys tell you what is happening, even if it's not terribly substantial (which it usually isn't to people like us, who read everything out there, and less than once a month are actually excited by something that we find in the middle of one sentence), because that's what they're there for: to keep you (for the most part) in the know. Until, that is, they are foced to offer you predictions of what they think is going to happen. This is when these "reporters" become "idiots".
Poor Peter King, he watches the Pats, Jets, and Giants, sometimes the Eagles, and because he works on the set of "NBC Football Night in WhatevertheHell that obnoxious Studio Show with Cool Graphics and Bob Costas for no good reason in America", he watches whatever that game is. Then, CNNSI.com asks him who's gonna win the Broncos v. Oakland game. He's guessing. He's guessing like me guessing a buddy's wife's weight while my buddy's right there waiting for me to make a mistake and piss everyone off. It's a lose-lose situation. The only thing he can do to mitigate his ignorance is to really try and accurately guess what the score and winners will be based solely upon the small handful of Raiders and/or Broncos games he's seen over the past 24 months, consider the roster moves he's even heard of, and consider what coach likes or doesn't based upon who he's interviewed in the past. His guess is boring, conservative, and typically, isn't too far off from the Vegas lines in the back of his Newark Star Ledger. The problem with this is that readers like you and I are clamoring for any and all information about our teams. Once we get the information we gorge ourselves on it and then complain about the stomach ache. Thing is, we know our stuff better than he does, and he knows it.
My axe to grind is with anyone considered an "analyst". This constitutes anyone working for Scouts Inc., anyone who does "power rankings", and anyone on any website or TV show who is the "guru" (TSG, this does NOT include you) or who attempts to analyze all 16 games every week from any position other than simple gameplanning analysis (Jaworski, who's EDGE NFL Matchup is grossly underrated). They do what Peter King does when they have to guess on games and outcomes, but the difference is that deducting who will win and predicting who will do what and when is actually their actual job. They are NOT "reporters". They are SUPPOSED to know that Denver has been using bunch sets and that Oakland can't pass the ball. They're supposed to know that Denver's been bottling up the run in preseason on defense and setting up the run with the pass. They're supposed to have better "analysis" than "The only known commodity is Cutler, but he will be without his best receiver". Come ON! Tell me that Cutler's gonna suck because Darrell Jackson's washed up or that Brandon Stokely is too fast for the Oakland safties. Tell me that Denver will need to put a nickelback on field just to watch McFadden on passing downs because Boss Bailey's still hurt. They're not supposed to say:
"This will be a physical game as each team tries to enforce its will early. However, there are a lot of questions entering this game. We really don't know the identity of either offense and we don't know how they will perform now that the games count. Both of these defenses were awful versus the run a year ago, which is a concern considering both offenses want to run first and pass second. The only known commodity is Cutler, but he will be without his best receiver. Oakland will play it close to the vest with its own talented young QB and in a close, low-scoring game, Russell will limit mistakes and let his backs to the heavy lifting as the Raiders upset the Broncos."
-Gary Horton (Scouts Inc. - presented by ESPN.com)
That has about as much substance as a politician being asked to talk about a bond issue that he or she doesn't know much about. Hell, at least Peter King says that Cutler's gonna throw 3 TD's, that's about all he says, but at least its better than this greyish-blue waffle that Gary Horton and Scoutsinc are passing off as analysis.
Re-read that quote. There's no analysis in there. This guy told me that:
1) The defenses were bad last year and because they were bad, it is a concern. It is a concern because both offenses are run first offenses. WHAT!!!!??? What the hell does that mean!?
2) Oakland's not gonna throw much. They like to run. Wow. Thanks. Why,why is thier passing game so bad?
3) Cutler is the only known (known by YOU, Gary? or known to other people in your office?) commodity on the field. Not any of the corners on either side? None of the Tight Ends? Hmm.
4) Cutler won't have his best receiver, and that's NOT great.
5) And finally,my favorite part: "We really don't know the identity of either offense and we don't know how they will perform". Isn't it your JOB to know????
I can't believe I pay for Insider.
I know I pick on this one article a lot, but its indicative of just about every "Analyst" article I've read this week. In the end, maybe I'm just venting, but if it wasn't for analysis here at MHR.com, I think I'd be on the ledge of my office building trying to jump off and land on Bernie Lincicome. Really, I just want someone who KNOWS WHAT THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT to get a job as an "analyst" and then I'll be happier paying for cable and internet and the newspaper and all of the fricking bland sports magazines that I subscribe to. Oh yeah, and don't tell me that these guys are writing to the "everyman" who doesn't know much about the game anyway, because the "everyman" isn't up at 12:47am on a Wednesday night reading ESPN Insider and Scout's Inc projections. Even the fantasy football projections are rediculous. Who believes this crap!
If you want to read projections of players or games, open up a blank MS Word document and write one down. Save it. Email it to yourself, and viola! you'll get to read something insightful right there in your inbox.
Good day and go Broncos.
This is a Fan-Created Comment on MileHighReport.com. The opinion here is not necessarily shared by the editorial staff of MHR
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Brilliant. This post is one of the best of the year. Almost in sync with you
and my angst with “the experts” I posted a bunch of links to various NFL Power Rankings…uhg, I came away feeling much the same way you do. The analysis by all of those guys are so far off the mark that it all came down to a single word: ABSURD! It fits the bill completely with these hacks. I am anxious to see these same Power Rankings on Tuesday…..asses, especially the moron who ranked the faders ahead of the Broncos. Puhlease!
If God is not a Bronco fan, then WHY are sunsets Blue and Orange? - Jon Tollerud 5/22/08
I got a high ankle sprain in college and it still hurts! ~ TSG 8/13/08
by Zappa on Sep 4, 2008 10:50 AM MDT 0 recs
You pay for insider???? I always wondered who was paying them.
Stop, just stop giving them money to do a worse job than MHR does.
"It's the first time that I've probably ever seen a 260 pound back run into a free safety and go flat on his back, I mean it was exciting." ~John Elway
by jibbons on Sep 4, 2008 10:52 AM MDT 0 recs
You're not kidding
I’ve been doing it for years. Truthfully, I used todo it for KC Joyner’s stuff and a bunch of Page 2 stuff used to require insider,but I’m going to cancel it.
And Zappa, I saw that post just after I posted, that’s so funny. I understand power rankings after 2/3 of the season, but ranking them now is rediculous. It’s like the college football polls telling me that Clemson was a top 10 team last week when they hadn’t played for 7 months.
The media sacrifices integrity for buzz. It make me sick, I understand it,but it sucks.
by super7 on
Sep 4, 2008 10:56 AM MDT
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I dont even bother anymore. lol
If God is not a Bronco fan, then WHY are sunsets Blue and Orange? - Jon Tollerud 5/22/08
I got a high ankle sprain in college and it still hurts! ~ TSG 8/13/08
by Zappa on
Sep 4, 2008 11:21 AM MDT
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i think its free now!
not that that’s any consolation, but…
by tunga77 on
Sep 5, 2008 1:13 PM MDT
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I dont even like comparing them to what we do at MHR.
If God is not a Bronco fan, then WHY are sunsets Blue and Orange? - Jon Tollerud 5/22/08
I got a high ankle sprain in college and it still hurts! ~ TSG 8/13/08
by Zappa on
Sep 4, 2008 11:21 AM MDT
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Great comments
I too feel your pain, although I haven’t paid for any analysis. My frustration is the same one that it seems unless a team is located in the NFC East, or has been in the Super Bowl within two years, there is little real coverage nationally for any other teams, Broncos included.
"How do the berries taste Ralph?" Bart Simpson
"They taste like burning." Ralph Wigam
Broncoman
by Broncoman on Sep 4, 2008 11:23 AM MDT 0 recs
I'm sure Seahawks fans or Saints fans...
felt the same way in 1998.
Just because your team is in the spotlight doesn’t make it right. Really, it calls for reporting regionally (like what ESPN has done w/ a reporter covering each of the conferences), but they are still missing the analysis.
In essence, you can get all of the same info Bill Williamson puts into his AFC West blog every day by going to denverpost.com, kansascitystar.com, signonsandiego.com, or hustler.com (the Raiders news source) and simply pulling the headline from the sports page, but it is admittedly nice to get a basic one-pager from old Bill Will.
BUT that still leaves the door open for regional analysis. They should hire 4 guys per conference to write about each team. Then, on Fridays, they pair up with whoever they’re playing and compare notes. I don’t need a prediction of a score or yardage totals, I just want to know how my squad stacks up versus another one.
by super7 on Sep 4, 2008 11:33 AM MDT 0 recs
That is a great post super7
After reading your post I totally understand where you are coming from. That qoute you put in the article is as vague a statement as you will see…….exactly like listening to a politician go on and on.
by weazel on Sep 4, 2008 11:51 AM MDT 0 recs
I hate to say this
But you get what you pay for, especially on ESPN. If I have to pay for analysis that I can read anywhere, well its not worth it. I am so fed up with MSM from sports to everything. They get their favorites and refuse to do RESEARCH on anything.
Great Post I agree with you 100%. King and Porkchop are still friggin tools. BTW isnt Rome on vacation again? =)
by broncfanstuckinsd on Sep 4, 2008 11:59 AM MDT 0 recs
I love when Rome is out
Jay Mohr and Jason Whitlock are phenomenal!
Mohr is HYSTERICAL, albeit a touch annoying. He did about 2 hours of the show a few weeks back in an awful Boston sprts-fan’s accent. What he lacks in sports acumen, hemakes up for with rediculous impressions.
Whitlock is contoversial, insightful, hard on race issues, and thinks Elway is the best PLAYER of all time. That’s good enough in my book. One of the Denver TV stations should hook up with a radio station here and call the Post and feature him in all 3. They guy’s one of the very best.
by super7 on
Sep 4, 2008 12:16 PM MDT
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I will listen
to the entire show when Whitlock is on. I like Mohr also. I use to like Feinstein until he starts spewing his political crap, then I go away. Feinstein does color for the USN football games and he sux, ruining the USN radio broadcasts. I thought Ray Ratto was pretty good. You who else I liked filling in for him was Roger Lodge.
by broncfanstuckinsd on
Sep 4, 2008 12:24 PM MDT
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Whitlock is great!
I really liked when his column was on Page 2, as it was easier to get to. I especially like that he is not afraid to speak his mind, something that ESPN wasn’t too fond of…
I definitely agree about the quality of typical sports coverage, it is atrocious. The only thing i rely on ESPN for is highlights on sportscenter and basic breaking news stories…
by hai17 on
Sep 4, 2008 2:48 PM MDT
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Awesome Post.
I ahve been blowing up the last few days. EVERY, count EVERY (apart from Jay Novachek on NBC Sports who must have watched the Broncos and says they can challenge the Bolts) has based their predictions on last year.
Thats like basing what the weathre is going ot be tomorrow based on what the weather was like on this day LAST year….ASININE.
At least pre-season is a better guage than last year.
These guys are ARSE CLOWNS and cant be taken seriously. Check out NBC Sports for Novachek’s picks. They are insightful and you can tell this guy actually know the gaem, has played the game and has watched the pre-season.
Werd!
by boydy2669 on Sep 4, 2008 2:14 PM MDT 0 recs
Who the hell is Tom Curran?
I was looking at NBCSports.com and happened across this prediction from Tom Curran (who?)
1. A very bleak offensive year awaits. They just haven’t done enough to improve offensively. Keary Colbert and Brandon Marshall at wideout. A rookie, Ryan Clady, at left tackle? The still-raw Selvin Young at running back. All those 1,000 yard rushers in the past came because of the downfield threats posed by guys like Rod Smith or Shannon Sharpe. Those days are gone.
Huh? Keary Colbert is far from a starting WR. Ryan Clady has looked outstanding, as has Ryan Harris. And Jay Cutler’s name isn’t even mentioned. They were This just enhances the point. Here’s a guy who hasn’t even watch the team, bloviating about it. Go MSM!
"I wouldn't ever set out to hurt anyone deliberately unless it was, you know, important --like a league game or something." DICK BUTKUS
by TedBartlett905 on Sep 4, 2008 3:55 PM MDT 0 recs
I was railing on about him yesterday...somewhere. I think in the MHR Radio chat room....
he is a complete AZZ!!!!!! He must be a fan of sandeegoo, faders, or chefs.
If God is not a Bronco fan, then WHY are sunsets Blue and Orange? - Jon Tollerud 5/22/08
I got a high ankle sprain in college and it still hurts! ~ TSG 8/13/08
by Zappa on
Sep 4, 2008 4:03 PM MDT
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Read that post TedBartlett905 put up
It says that Denver’s backs had all of those great seasons because of Shannon Sharpe’s and Rod Smith’s downfield blocking. No mention of the O-Line or a great talent on the team. Not to mention, Shannon Sharpe wasn’t known for his blocking.
This guy obviously hasn’t watched Denver play since 2006.
How is he getting paid? I mean, if he writes for free, then this article will do, but if he’s getting paid for this, then I need to get a job as a sports ‘analyst’.
by super7 on
Sep 5, 2008 9:06 AM MDT
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Acctually probably hasn't watched them play since 1998.
From his Sharpe reference. lol
To have striven, to have made the effort, to have been true to certain ideals - this alone is worth the struggle. - William Penn
Tom Arnold, of Fox Sports Net's Best Damn Sports Show Period, said this about Warren Sapp: "Hey, Warren, the Raiders signed you to a seven-year deal. I guess Bill Callahan was right --- they are the dumbest team in America."
by Philistine21 on
Sep 5, 2008 10:14 AM MDT
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Did he ever watch the Broncos
Since when was Sharpe EVER known for his blocking? Down field or on the line.
by broncfanstuckinsd on
Sep 5, 2008 11:33 AM MDT
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That, my friend, is the greatest rant I have ever seen.
Recommended and LMAO’d.
I could be wrong, but I believe a Raider is an old, old wooden ship that was used during the Civil War era.
by papigrande on Sep 4, 2008 4:17 PM MDT 0 recs
Places like Insider are needed
That way you will not take MHR for granted.
Victor Frankl:
What man actually needs is not a tensionless state but rather the striving and struggling for some goal worthy of him. What he needs is not the discharge of tension at any cost, but the call of a potential meaning waiting to be fulfilled by him.
Everything can be taken from a man but one thing: the last of the human freedoms – to choose one’s attitude in any given set of circumstances, to choose one’s own way.
by wyoeng on Sep 4, 2008 8:29 PM MDT 0 recs
QFT, but I don’t even need to pay for Insider to know where home is. Which leads to my only real grip: Where is the coverage of my other teams? Can I get an insightful look at where the New Mexico basketball program is headed, and what recruitment looks like? arrrgh, nm… not your job, I know = )
(Albuquerque is a mile high too, dammit!)
I'm tired of hearing about money, money, money, money, money. I just want to play the game, drink Pepsi, wear Reebok.
Shaquille O'Neal
by tannji on
Sep 6, 2008 7:11 PM MDT
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Hey Super7
If you do manage to land on Bernie, tell him I said hi.
"In the empty spaces - lacunae, vacuums, pauses, voids, black holes - new things begin. We are born anew from the unexplored space, the badlands, the outlaw territory." - Sam Keen
by spock on Sep 5, 2008 12:38 PM MDT 0 recs




















