Denver Broncos 41 - Oakland Raider 14 - Cutler Ascends, Royal Arrives
by John Bena on Sep 8, 2008 11:48 PM MDT
in 2008 Denver Broncos Post Game Notes
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| Category | Broncos | Raiders |
| Score | 41 | 14 |
| Rushing Yards |
142 | 150 |
| Passing Yards |
299 | 157 |
| Total Yards | 441 | 307 |
| Turnovers | 0 | 1 |
| Sacked | 0 | 2 |
| T.O.P | 29:50 | 30:10 |
It's only one game, against a team that we should beat, that we had to beat. There is a long way to go, and the Broncos still have a lot of questions. That's all well and good, and I'll think about it tomorrow, tonight I am going to take some time to enjoy the re-birth of the Denver Broncos offense.
Not the offense that Jake Plummer used to win a lot of regular season games from 2003-2006. No, the REAL Broncos offense. The one that is relentless. The one that keeps coming and keeps coming for 60 minutes. The offense that frustrates defenses into stupid penalties. That offense, behind Jay Cutler and a cast of young, talented linemen and skill position players, is back and with it the sky's the limit.
The Broncos started fast, taking the opening kickoff and going the distance, scoring a TD on a beautiful touchdown pass from Jay Cutler to Eddie Royal. Yes, Eddie Royal. Let's take a moment to talk about the Offensive Rookie of the Year. My concern the entire pre-season was where Jay Cutler was going to go with the football with Brandon Marshall out. The answer came early and went all night long - 9 Catches, 146 yards, TD - the best performance for a receiver this weekend.
On defense, the Broncos were alot more active, swarming the football and keeping the Raiders off the scoreboard fro 3 1/2 quarters. Playing defense with a big lead is hard to do, and to be sure the final game stats are going to be a bit skewed because of it. I'll get deeper into the defense tomorrow, but in short I like how the front four played, especially Elvis Dumervil, and I thought the linebackers, after some early over-aggressiveness, played very well. Jamie Winborn started and went the distance for Boss Bailey, and was flying around the football. Nate Webster was very solid, and remember I am a Niko guy, and the helmet count stands at one.
Not much more to say than what we witnessed tonight was a dominating performace by the Broncos, on both sides of the ball. The bigger game is coming up, but for a few minutes savor what we watched and enjoy what looks like will be an exciting 2008.
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Great Game!!!
Can’t wait for MHR Radio on Wednesday!
BTW, we all need to figure out a nickname for Eddie Royal….
MELO!!!
The raiders ran the ball early
when they came out with home field intensity, and they ran it late when the Broncos were playing with a big lead, but in the middle part of the game, when it counted, the Broncos handled their running game pretty well. The stats won’t show it, but our D kept their running game from dominating. And they couldn’t win without a dominating running game. I was hoping Royal would have a breakout game, but he did better than I dared hope. His route running is brilliant. Wow! Marshall, Royal, Stokley, Scheffler, and a great pass-blocking line. I almost feel sorry for the defenses that have to play us.
"In the empty spaces - lacunae, vacuums, pauses, voids, black holes - new things begin. We are born anew from the unexplored space, the badlands, the outlaw territory." - Sam Keen
Nickname: Baby Marshall (after all, Marshall has had to put up with the baby monkier his whole career)
This game was just a joy to watch. After all the months of waiting, getting to see the Broncos dominate, against the Faders, no less, was the biggest treat I’ve had in a long time.
Time to go home and take it to the Chargers!
I was so mad when
Webster’s Helmet came off, and at the end I was laughing about it! Sorry I missed the thread. I don’t anticipate many more of those!
" He goes against Champ everyday." -Jay Cutler
Davis to the Hall!
Eddie Royal is the perfect name
I just can’t wait for next week, Marshall, Royal, Stokely, with Cutler throwing, are you kidding me?
"It's the first time that I've probably ever seen a 260 pound back run into a free safety and go flat on his back, I mean it was exciting." ~John Elway
But really, what does this mean for Hall
Is he going to stink like this in the next game too?? No payoff on any of Al’s moves what-so-ever. I can’t think of a better opener.
"It's the first time that I've probably ever seen a 260 pound back run into a free safety and go flat on his back, I mean it was exciting." ~John Elway
Royal made Hall look rediculous.
I mean he ran circles around him and I bet Hall didn’t know which way was up. lol
Hah,
I should have listened to the play by play!
"It's the first time that I've probably ever seen a 260 pound back run into a free safety and go flat on his back, I mean it was exciting." ~John Elway
That was about the only compliment
out of Ditka’s mouth for the Broncos the entire game.
You didn’t miss much. It was like he was auditioning for Kiffin’s job!
"It's all over Fat Man" - Tom Jackson to John Madden 1977 AFC Championship Game
"I love your analysis of our team. Its kinda like watching a spider monkey trying to figure out a jar of peanuts.. you know whats going on.. you know whats in there, but to actually figure it out, is just a bit beyond your mental skills..."
- Bronco Dano
by DesertBroncoFan on Sep 9, 2008 9:43 AM MDT up reply actions
Yeah, the announcers were terrible.
I mean they should have just put on their Raider hats. Unless it is the teams announcers, they are usually supposed to be impartial and sound somewhat excited when something happens like a big play or a score…..not here. Still waiting for some good NFL announcers on ESPN, however that will never happen.
But if I had to pick a name it'd be
Royal with Cheese
"It's the first time that I've probably ever seen a 260 pound back run into a free safety and go flat on his back, I mean it was exciting." ~John Elway
Eddie " which way did he go " Royal
Hall is still probably looking for E.R. and his jockstrap lmao
by okiebroncosfan on Sep 9, 2008 5:21 AM MDT up reply actions
Eddie Love...but
What’s not to love about easy Eddie’s performance tonight? It’s been a long time since an offensive rookie has stepped up with that kind of energy, confidence, and chops. Little things, like the way he fielded punts with total fearlessness and an almost casual confidence that he’d catch the ball and make the first guy miss—even when that guy was breathing down his neck. And big things, like the way he had his way with a couple pretty good corners even when he was the only receiver on the field worth paying attention to. He, and the tight ends, and the pass protection, and of course Mr. Cutler, make this a scary good offense as we all hoped they might be.
I must say, though, I’m still worried about the D. It may seem sacrilegious to criticize a defense that was pitching a shutout into the fourth quarter, but I’m going to stick to my guns here. We’re still soft against the run, short on impact playmakers (please, may Boss Bailey shift the balance here…), and only average in coverage, I’m afraid. I know it’s hard to play shut down defense with a big lead, but the Raiders were a couple Ronald Curry fingertips away from making this a very different game, and I’m afraid that a good offense will expose us for what we are—a very average, or below average defense. I did think the pass rush showed signs of life, but does anyone really disagree that we need to raise the level of our play significantly to be AFC contenders?
Hard to evaluate
Both the defense and the special teams played better in the second and third quarters. I just don’t know if they were shaking off first game jitters or if it was the fact that they were playing the Raiders that caused the improvement.
Awesome
Dude, I was excited the whole game and I just can stop laughing and smiling from watching that game. I will have this smile on my face for the next few days.
Can’t wait for Wednesday’s show. That’s going to be a lot of fun, especially after a shalacking over the Raiders.
The offense today is exactly what I have been waiting for and now Marshall comes back for next week so it will be fun.
41 points out of a young offense that will only get better
Before tonight seven of the Broncos starters on offense had a total of 54 games of NFL experience, including 3 rookies and Ryan Harris (who played one snap last year). Assuming Royal starts opposite Marshall next week, here is a look at the starting lineup.
Cutler - 22 games
S Young - 16 games
Hillis - 1 game
Marshall - 31 games
Royal - 1 game
Graham - 79 games
Clady - 1 game
Hamilton - 81 games
Nalen - 195 games
Kuper - 18 games
R Harris – 2 games
As good as they were tonight (admittedly against the Raiders), just think how much better they will be as the season progresses.
I bet this is the youngest O-Line that has ever opened a season in the Shanahan era.
They get an A+ for protection and this was against some good D-linemen.
by Arctic Bronco on Sep 9, 2008 12:29 AM MDT up reply actions
Awesome
I love watching the Broncos win, and especially blow teams out
I also love watching the raiders lose, and especially get blown out.
I won on both accounts – this game was probably the most enjoyable football game I’ve watched in a while.
I can’t wait for next week!
Ps… I think Royal fits him just fine, he sure looked a notch above anyone out there on defense; it seemed like he was making them kneel before him on some of his catches – most of all DeAngelo Hall, whom he made look downright foolish all game long. I see nothing but upside with this team.
The Royal Treatment (easy ed belongs only to mccaffrey)
WR • Eddie Royal • DEN
DEN @ OAK • Final
Pass: 0/1/0/0 TD: 0
Rush: 2/9 TD: 0
Rec: 9/146 TD: 1 (26)
Kick Return: 1/11 TD: 0
Punt Return: 2/19 TD: 0
22.5 Fantasy Points
And I also started cutler for fantasy:
QB • Jay Cutler • DEN
DEN @ OAK • Final
Passer Rating: 109.5
Pass: 16/24/0/299 TD: 2 (48,26)
Rush: 5/9 TD: 0
26.9 Fantasy Points
i think we have the high this week for poinst scored too.
finally some broncos on the top 5 nfl players stat page
The Royal Crush lol!
by Bill_Intense on Sep 9, 2008 12:42 AM MDT up reply actions
Haha, me too
They had him at 300 yds during the game, but it was listed as 299 on espn.com. 1 yard away from that extra point.
I still won, but I would have been disappointed if i’d lost by a point.
next week will be the test
royal rocked! that was excellent! and i had royal for fantasy so i won this week!
hopefully after next week we will make you a 13-3 believer guru!
i paused the archive of last week to real aloud this post and loved it.
looking forward to downloading the episode 51 mp3.
Non-concurrence with Royal as Offensive Rookie of the Year
Eddie might end up sharing ROY with Clady. The big guy dominated NFL linemen in his first game, that is extremely unusual. Great drafting was done to complement Jay’s abilities.
Werd, Clady didn't slip
"It's the first time that I've probably ever seen a 260 pound back run into a free safety and go flat on his back, I mean it was exciting." ~John Elway
The offensive line pass blocked great the whole game
The running game was not great to start, but it was also not used that much as Denver had a couple big passes so there was no rhythm. They ran better as the game went on, especially the fourth quarter. But it is hard to get too, too excited about it since it was against a Raiders defense that was down to five linemen at the end of the game. As Bill said above, next week is the real test.
I agree in principle
but in fact, only RBs, WRs and QBs are eligible for offensive ROTY awards… meh.
Just like DEs and DTs and LBs are the only defensive eligible players… unless the lbs name is DJ….
Mountains, forest, sea: these render man fierce, but yet do not destroy the man.
by Jeremy Bolander on Sep 9, 2008 11:41 PM MDT up reply actions
Clady did look great
but that clicking sound you hear is late-night fantasy owners all over the country scrambling to pick up Eddie Royal…
Haha yeah
It looks like picking him up in the last round may pay off for me.
He will be a monster if he keeps it up, especially since he’s returning kicks.
hall returns?
My buddy Nyxll seems to think Royal may now be too valuable now to return kicks. it may be delegated to Hall. i guess we will see what happens next week.
That's what I want to have happen.
"Greater is an army of sheep led by a lion, than an army of lions led by a sheep" Defoe
by Steve Nichols on Sep 10, 2008 12:59 PM MDT up reply actions
Just ordered my Marshall jersey...
Can’t wait to find Royal for sale. Hall is a crybaby scumbag for the way he acted when Royal was working his @$$.
Baby Beast
What’s mind boggling about Royal’s performance is that he was going against a pretty good corner in Hall. Hall’s just about as good a 2nd corner as there is in the league, and it’s not like defenses are going to ignore Marshall to cover Royal. We were already saying in the preseason that no one in the league could cover Marshall one on one- well, I don’t think there’s a 2nd corner in the league that can cover Eddie Royal one on one, either.
With the pass protection the Bronco’s had last night, and Jay Cutler throwing the ball, it’s scary to think how good the Bronco’s passing offense could be.
You beat us....
you guys were the better team, nobody wacthing the game can doubt that…..
lane kiffin your coutdown till you get axed is on,
as a raider fan, i can only hope for Jamarcus Russell and the rest of the offense can one day decide to move the chains throught the air
anyway, chargers lost yesterday, go ahead and enjoy the victory, enjoy it till the raiders come to denver, you were the better team today……
63, rest in peace man
I'm sorry, but we weren't just better....we did to you what the Chargers did to us last year.
It wasn’t even competitive!
If God is not a Bronco fan, then WHY are sunsets Blue and Orange? - Jon Tollerud 5/22/08
I got a high ankle sprain in college and it still hurts! ~ TSG 8/13/08
ehh,
yep you beat us, decisevly at that, but its still just 1 game. i honestly think Russel has more potential than Cutler in the future, but we need him to figure out something and do it soon and apply it in a hurry….
grats on the victory, and i was among the quote unquote semi intelligent raider fan’s that thought we had a good chance to win, so enjoy your victory and dont get cocky for the next game, al davis wont let us be a laughing stock in the league
63, rest in peace man
Thanks for the props,
but Al is the reason your already a laughing stock in the league
"It's the first time that I've probably ever seen a 260 pound back run into a free safety and go flat on his back, I mean it was exciting." ~John Elway
Ill take my chances with Al
how quick people foget 3 superbowls and 6 afc championships….
he hasnt lost his football mind, its his arrogance that gets in the way, hopefully we make it work it work sooner than later, me and al davis cant handle another monday night beat down from you guys(but remeber JRussell is the real deal, and he will be better sooner than later)……
63, rest in peace man
I was born in 1978, not much to remember about 3 Super Bowls....
The jury is still out on JM as well…he will have a setback when Al Davis fires him Week 4
If God is not a Bronco fan, then WHY are sunsets Blue and Orange? - Jon Tollerud 5/22/08
I got a high ankle sprain in college and it still hurts! ~ TSG 8/13/08
al davis...
isnt he that retard that sighned javon walker for like 60 million dollars. YA take your chances with him
Classy Autumnwind....
There have been several Raiders fans over here in the 5 months leading to this game, yet you were the first one to congratulate the Broncos on the win. That is classy, and you ust forgive some of the others in here, they are taking out on you what other loudmouths deserve.
-TSG
www.milehighreport.com
Oh man....the faders were in complete disarray tonight.
They are worse than even we thought they were. I just got home and it’s late, but I know I will have much to say come morning time. The preseason was a good indicator of the regular season…13-3 is not LaLaLand with this offense. It was fun listening to all the fader fans bitching and moaning about how this “crappy Bronco” team could do so good. I heard calls for Kiffin’s head, Rex Ryan’s head, Al Davis’ wheel chair, ect ect….sad.
If God is not a Bronco fan, then WHY are sunsets Blue and Orange? - Jon Tollerud 5/22/08
I got a high ankle sprain in college and it still hurts! ~ TSG 8/13/08
Al Davis's wheel chair,
sounds like you were hanging with a classy crowd…..
lets not foget that Al gave your ………..coach………. his first head coaching job and that AL DAVIS is the only owner to lead his team to the super bowl as a COACH and win coach of the year honors, but i digress, this is your night, early mornin……..
63, rest in peace man
He also fired that coach...
…like he has so many others, and didn’t let him make many coaching decisions.
Anyone would have given Shanahan a chance. He was the offensive mastermind behind the 49ers during their reign. Giving a guy a chance, not giving him any control, then firing him (and not paying him what he was owed) brought Shanahan to the Broncos with an axe to grind. And Shanny’s been making Al pay ever since.
"Greater is an army of sheep led by a lion, than an army of lions led by a sheep" Defoe
by Steve Nichols on Sep 9, 2008 1:49 AM MDT up reply actions
sure,
al davis has an ego complex, most great men do
(actually Bill Walsh was the offensive mastermind behind the 49ers offense and I dare you to say otherwise)
its hard to talk shit to you guys, when you walk in to our house and stomp us so thoroughly, i was most dissapointed with our defense who i though would be top notch this year
i guess we will find out next week if you guys are really that good or we are that bad(im guessing you lose next week and we win)
anyway grats on the victory, but seiously Russell/McFadden will bring you chills in 2 years ……
63, rest in peace man
Being a former coach...
I attended a few pro run seminars. While Walsh was the architect, the system worked while Shanahan was present and drawing up and running the plays. After he left the 49ers, the success traveled to Denver.
I’m not slighting Walsh by any stretch. But to imply that only Al Davis would give a coordinator like Shanahan a “chance” is laughable, particularly given Shanahans steller record at the time, and Davis’ tendency to constrict his coaches and then blame them for failure.
"Greater is an army of sheep led by a lion, than an army of lions led by a sheep" Defoe
by Steve Nichols on Sep 9, 2008 2:03 AM MDT up reply actions
By the way...
…“Great men [usually have ego complexes]” is a statement made by people trying to defend someone with a big ego. There’s nothing great about a person with a big ego. There was a thread a long time ago on MHR where we discussed Al Davis’ “greatness”, including how he stole the team by stabbing one of the founders in the back.
I guess a guy who would sue the Bucs (after losing a SB) for copyright infringment (the “skull and bones”) is a small man indeed.
"Greater is an army of sheep led by a lion, than an army of lions led by a sheep" Defoe
by Steve Nichols on Sep 9, 2008 2:06 AM MDT up reply actions
Well,
Al Davis is also 75% in his court room cases, I dont have the exact stats or links and i apolgize for that.
I am defending Al Davis, and his large ego, because people dont relize what a great football mind he is and he was. Im sorry I missed that thread on MHR, it would of been intresting to see what you guys would have to say about Davis( the same way it would be to see what Raider fans would say about Lamar Hunt, a man I hated as a raider fan but admired as a humanitarin and football promoter) but facts are facts. To compare Al Davis to one of those owners who meddles is just ridiculuos. This guy knows football, and I’m dissapointed that he had to run Gruden and very soon Kiffin out of town, but everyone knows thier’s only one man who represents the Raiders. If your not a Davis fan, your not a Raider fan, thats what I belive. And that belief has worked, just take look at our all time record before the last five year slump….
63, rest in peace man
Not so fast.
It’s actually a mistake to believe tha Al has won more cases tn he’s lost.
Here’s an excerpt from a comment I made awhile back on Al’s biggest (so called) court victory:
With respect, it was the NFL that prevailed in the case, not the USFL. Here’s the full story.
The amount the USFL could sue for was $567 mil, and the amount could triple to $1.7 bil under antitrust law.
The USFL lost most of the decisions related to the case, which led to the demise of the USFL. In fact, the ruling (that most media "experts" called a victory) was appealed by the USFL, not the NFL.
The court did find the League guilty of being a monopoly (and a money award went to the USFL, and you’ll laugh when we get to it). But the jury (it was a jury case), also ruled that the USFL was acting in a predatory manner by trying to force the NFL into a merger with the case.
The court also found that the USFL was not being targeted by "behind the scenes" deals with the networks", and that the USFL had brought up this charge with malicious intent as well.
The jury awarded the USFL only one dollar. Under the rules of anti-trust, the amount now tripled to $3. The USFL only ended up with 3.76 (the extra amount from interest accrued during the appeals). The check remains in the hands of the lower court, having never been cashed.
The decision was so damaging to the USFL that they immediatly shut down operations, and players were released from their contracts.
The USFL tried to appeal to the 2nd circuit of the US Court of appeals, but lost there as well. However, since they prevailed on the prime motion and were the "injured" party (even though they only won $3), they were found to be entitled to attorney’s fees of $5.5 millions dollars. It went to the attorneys, the USFL got none of it. The USFL did get a token award – reimbursement for $62,000 in courts costs.
The USFL was in shatters, and out of operation. Now the NFL decided to rub salt in the wounds. They sued to prevent the USFL from collecting the tiny $62,000 amount. Both the appeals court and later the US Supreme Court (in 1990) found in favor of the USFL (just on if they could have the small court fee money back). The USFL won that decision, but had already ceased to exist.
In the end the USFL won one of the decisions in the suit, and lost several others. Their lawyers got paid, but the team ended up with nothing monetarily and the USFL was destroyed.
Bottom line – I still haven’t heard a reason why I would want Al Davis on my side, especially in a court room.
(Some trivia – Howard Cosell also testfied on behalf of the USFL. Also, Donald Trump was the witness that most damaged the case, when it was discovered that he was trying to bully the NFL into a merger with his USFL team, The Generals).
If you really want to, we can go into his other cases (most of which he was forced to withdraw from before being hammered).
"Greater is an army of sheep led by a lion, than an army of lions led by a sheep" Defoe
by Steve Nichols on Sep 9, 2008 8:04 AM MDT up reply actions
You know what,
Im biased, I freely admit that, as I’m sure you have your own biases( its human nature) were would shanny be without Terrelle Davis being an abosulte freak of nature for those 2 seasons, probably in the unemployment line or possibly Andy Reid’s off cordinator, alot is based on skill, but even more on luck.
Sure Shanahan would of got a head coaching job someday, only an idiot would doubt tht, but Al’ recognized his geniuos long before anybody else, and he has a long track record of doing that, what does it mean because all he does is piss off these coaches in the long run and let them get thier greatness elsewhere, im not sure…..
63, rest in peace man
Uh oh.
were would shanny be without Terrelle Davis being an abosulte freak of nature for those 2 seasons
I’ll tell you where. The same place he has been without Elway; Garnering one of the best winning records of any current coach in the League. You might want to check Shanahan’s record after Elway / Terrell. Excepting a couple of teams (oakland isn’t one of them), it’s a damn impressessive list of stats.
"Greater is an army of sheep led by a lion, than an army of lions led by a sheep" Defoe
by Steve Nichols on Sep 9, 2008 8:07 AM MDT up reply actions
Oakland MUST get some young WRs
that will grow with JaMarcus. His potential will only be reached by getting him complimenatary players, just as Scheff, Marshall and now Royal were all brought in to complement and develop along with Jay. Lelie & Walker are on the downside of their careers and Curry has never delivered. Lucky for JM that Miller is such a good TE, as TEs with good hands can be a young QBs best friend, at least until they learn to read the deeper routes.
by Arctic Bronco on Sep 9, 2008 2:04 AM MDT up reply actions
They've already spent too much money on the ones they have!
They’ve also forgotten to spend any money (or draft picks) for an offensive line. No, what they really need is an owner who will listen to his people (coaches, for a start). Al Davis will continue to drag this team down in his senility, but that bothers me not a bit.
"Greater is an army of sheep led by a lion, than an army of lions led by a sheep" Defoe
by Steve Nichols on Sep 9, 2008 2:08 AM MDT up reply actions
K,
Al Davis is the pumping hurt of the Raider Franchise, I trust him completely to get us out of this mess. A man doesnt go from football genoius to senile in a 5 year stretch, you guys are looking at a lot of mediocre years with Shanny in charge, thank god you guys got Cutler, who has shown he can be a decent qb in this league….
63, rest in peace man
Mediocre? Can't get senile in five years?
You have to go back to the early 70s to find a Denver team that has only won 4 or five games. You guys have been doing it on a regular basis. And yes, people get senile in the course of less than a year, let alone five.
oakland has spent money like mad, so it isn’t the lack of player talent. JM was a high pick, I’ll remind you. So no need for Denver to thank God any more than you. The problem is that Al Davis doesn’t need to hire a coach, because he won’t allow his coaches to run their own team. This puts him in the same class as guys like Snyder (WAS) and Jones (DAL), who have learned that all the money in the world can’t buy a team if the coach isn’t allowed to run it.
"Greater is an army of sheep led by a lion, than an army of lions led by a sheep" Defoe
by Steve Nichols on Sep 9, 2008 8:12 AM MDT up reply actions
I was at the Oakland Coloseum...so yea, class was everywhere! :P
Actually, I met some awesome people there and I hope to hook up with them against next year. I made the mistake of parking my car in the regular parking lot…what a messy disgusting place it becomes. I think from now on I will rent an RV and park in the RV lot where people kept the place clean and had a good time.. :)
If God is not a Bronco fan, then WHY are sunsets Blue and Orange? - Jon Tollerud 5/22/08
I got a high ankle sprain in college and it still hurts! ~ TSG 8/13/08
Glad you got to watch a total crushing of the Raiders.
The best camera shot I saw was when they did a split screen of Shanahan and Al Davis. I mean it looked like big Al was ready to hit something or start to cry. Shanny is now 21-6 against OAK…..gotta love it.
Nothing funnier...
…than watching “grown” men in their “scary” costumes looking like they’re about to cry. Glad you made it out alive.
"Greater is an army of sheep led by a lion, than an army of lions led by a sheep" Defoe
by Steve Nichols on Sep 9, 2008 1:47 AM MDT up reply actions
Where's Sneaky?
Or Oakfosho, or whatever his name is? I though he was going to come over here and talk some smack?
Thought so.
"Greater is an army of sheep led by a lion, than an army of lions led by a sheep" Defoe
Quick Question
I know that the Fumble that JaMarcus Russel had, was pretty much just him dropping the ball, but don;t they usually give the sack and forced fumble to the neartest defensive player? I mean Doom was right there, in fact if you look at the replay close enough he may have hit the ball just a bit. I think that DOOMs official line should have a sack and a forced fumble added to it. Also it just shows how useless tackle stats in the nfl are. DOOM was in on a ton of tackles and wreaked havoc in the backfield all night yet he has only one lousy assist to show for all of his efforts, rediculous!
Go M's
No can do.
Doom was still a few steps away, and nowhere near touching JM or the ball. JM had time to throw the ball, but it fell out of his hand as his hand moved forward. I think that Doom was a factor (JM knew a hit was coming), but you can’t credit doom with a stat if he was still a couple of yards away.
However, he does get credit for an unofficial stat (called a “hurry-up”). And in the mind of this defensive coordinator, hurry-ups are even better than sacks (because they lead to turnovers more often).
"Greater is an army of sheep led by a lion, than an army of lions led by a sheep" Defoe
by Steve Nichols on Sep 9, 2008 8:15 AM MDT up reply actions
So then, no one gets credit for a sack or forced fumble on the play?
Or does go down as a team sack / FF? Or is there no sack involved at all, and JM is justceredited with a fumble no force?
For instance, the college team I root for (the Oregon State Beavers), two weeks ago had a reciever reach out to try and extend the ball across the plane of the endzone, yet when he reached out he lost the ball, it rolled through the endzone for a touchback for the other team and pretty much ended the game. I same a million replays and no one touched his arm or the ball he lost it all on his own because he was stretching for the TD, yet the guy nearest him got credit for the forced fumble.
I guess I just want some padded stats for our DOOM! :)
Go M's
It's a fumble by JM.
It was unforced, so nobody really deserves the credit. However, I tend to think that Doom had JM scared! lol
"Greater is an army of sheep led by a lion, than an army of lions led by a sheep" Defoe
by Steve Nichols on Sep 9, 2008 10:40 AM MDT up reply actions
I reallt love how
other teams fans come here and tell us their quarterback is GOING to be better than our JC , when it is a little early for comparison yet , JC is just average—now I am laughing.
Until your quarterback learns ALOT more (dont throw him under the bus too soon) and he does have potential but he needs time to grow , before you can be ready to enshrine him in the Hall of Fame.
I understand your love for your team(everyone on this site is CRAZY about our Broncos) but I dont understand your loyalty to Al Davis when it is so obvious to everyone else how he affects your team in such a damaging way. Who do you hold responsible for the damages? How can you believe Al will straighten this shambles out when he causes most of it? Fire another coach ? Have another star athlete sit on the bench for no good reason? Overpay for medium rated talent?
Even the raiders fans at SaBP
are finaly starting to realize that Al Davis is the reason for the basement dwelling.
"Greater is an army of sheep led by a lion, than an army of lions led by a sheep" Defoe
by Steve Nichols on Sep 9, 2008 8:17 AM MDT up reply actions
Raiders only had 95 yards rushing
WOW….. our defense did a great job and after we had the big lead , we went into the bend-dont break defense and still did well Great game . Go Broncos!
My thoughts just went to all the Raiders fans and how they must feel right now.
And if I imagine the Broncos would have lost 14:41 – wow! I would be pissed the entire season! Damn would this be fucked up! Holy crap, I guess I would start wearing ugly monster costumes so that no one can see my tears dropping…
Oh… Now, finally, I know why Raiders fans do wear those costumes :D:D:D
I agree.
But let’s keep it family friendly. : )
"Greater is an army of sheep led by a lion, than an army of lions led by a sheep" Defoe
by Steve Nichols on Sep 9, 2008 8:18 AM MDT up reply actions
I believe Silverblood
suggested “Royal: The Duke of Juke” in the gamethread, and I second the motion. While longer than a standard nickname it still rolls off the tongue, is psychologically satisfying (Duke being a derivative of Royal) and pays homage to his elite routerunning skills, especially at this early stage of his career.
And if we don’t go with “Duke of Juke”, I vote we keep it simple and humble and just refer to him as “your Majesty”….
Mountains, forest, sea: these render man fierce, but yet do not destroy the man.
by Jeremy Bolander on Sep 9, 2008 11:49 PM MDT reply actions
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