Straight from the Horse's Mouth -- Leslie Frazier Scouting Report
Our closer look at each of the Broncos Head Coaching Candidates continues with a closer look at Leslie Frazier, current Defensive Coordinator with the Minnesota Vikings. Gonzo, our fine Vikings Blogger over at Daily Norseman was kind enough to share his thoughts on Frazier, and after the jump we get the thoughts of BigBlueShoe, owner of StampedeBlue since Frazier spent several years on the Colts staff under Tony Dungy --
Frazier is the latest in the Vikings' revolving door at defensive coordinator. However, the reason the door is revolving now is because the guys the Vikings are hiring are good enough to get promotions elsewhere, as opposed to the late 90s and early 2000s, where we fired guys on a regular basis because their defenses were terrible.
With a long history in the NFL as a player and a coach. . .he was the leader in interceptions for the 1985 Chicago Bears (the team that, for my money, was the greatest defense of all time). . .Frazier has developed a pretty good feel for the game. He started his coaching career at tiny Trinity International University in Deerfield, Illinois, and moved on to become defensive backs coach for the Illinois Fighting Illini. He's parlayed that into experiences with four different NFL teams. . .the Philadelphia Eagles (DB coach from 1999 - 2002), the Cincinnati Bengals (defensive coordinator 2003 - 2004), the Indianapolis Colts (DB coach 2005 - 2006), and the past two seasons as the Vikings' defensive coordinator.
His defense this season became the first team since the NFL/AFL merger to lead the league in rushing yards allowed for three consecutive seasons. The pass defense, after having ranked dead last in the league in 2006 (under Mike Tomlin) and 2007, moved up to 18th in 2008. While much of the credit is given to the Vikings' outstanding front four, the level of play in the Vikings' secondary has increased markedly over the past couple of seasons as well. His defenses are not without their faults, however. When his defenses blitz, the pressure comes almost exclusively from up the gut, and this tends to leave 7-10 routes open in the middle of the field for a good quarterback to pick apart. If you saw the Vikings' playoff game against the Eagles last Sunday, you saw a pretty good example of this. Overall, though, his defenses have performed well over the past two seasons.
Frazier, by all accounts, is a great motivator and rarely fails to have his team prepared for an opponent. As much as I would hate to see my team lose him, I think he's very deserving of a shot as a head coach in the NFL, and the Broncos would be a good place for him. The Denver offense is already well-established, so Frazier could concentrate on helping whoever he would hire as his defensive coordinator to build a playoff-caliber defense in the Mile High city.
Now a look at what Big Blue Shoe says about Frazier --
I actually had a discussion about Frazier with MasterRWayne last night pertaining to the Broncos. We both agree he will likely get the job, and may lure Raheem Morris to Denver as the DC. Frazier's temperament is ideal for Denver. Let's face it: The Broncos have a lot of cocky dudes on their team who love to talk even though they ain't never won nothing. Guys like Cutler and Marshall need someone even keeled to keep them in line. Frazier fits the bill there. He is very much from the Tony Dungy school of coaching. John Madden once said he was more a Buddy Ryan-style coach.
Madden is, of course, dead wrong.
Frazier takes after Dungy in temperment and philosophy. If he arrives in Denver, the defense will shift to a Tampa-2. He might blitz a bit more, especially if Denver gets some size at LBer. But, size in a Tampa-2 is not important. Denver needs a pass rush. Their offense is high powered and can score points quick. If their defense can pressure the passer, especially is Denver has the lead, the Broncos are in good shape. Frazier is a good coach if that is the direction the team wants to go in
Our thanks to both Gonzo and BigBlueShoe for giving us their thoughts on Leslie Frazier. Since it appears that Frazier and McDaniels are the two finalists, take a pick in the poll....
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You're a funny guy, BBS.
I would like to have someone settle Cutler down a little. And Marshall does need to keep his trap shut sometimes. I think Frazier would be a good guy for that, as I think he would still allow them a little freedom. I don’t see him being a Nazi like Colonel Tom Coughlin.
While I’m still on the Spagnuolo bandwagon, these guys are probably my two second choices. I like McDaniels’ history and the fact that he has a plan in place. I like Frazier better than Morris because he has more experience, but I think those two have similar upside.
I voted for Frazier because he’s a defensive guy, and our defense needs help. Also, he had a much more interesting name. McDaniels is a little too generic for my taste.
"WTF" By Zappa. 1/5/09
I can deal with bears....sharks on the other hand.......of course, I am not talking about if I were menstrual(I’m a guy so that isn’t it), but yeah. I can deal with bears if my arm or something was bleedin’, but sharks? I’ll pass on those. The worst feeling in the world is to be out in the surf and feel something very large brush up against your leg as you were alone waiting for your next wave. I don’t think I’ve gone out past waist deep in the ocean since. lol It was probably just a damn dolphin or something, but yeah. Screw sharks and the evolutionary train they rode in on!
by papigrande on Jan 10, 2009 11:06 AM MST reply actions 0 recs
New avatar.
I am now both Mexican and Japanese!! Guru, you seem to have the power to change names. Could you change mine to papi-san?
"WTF" By Zappa. 1/5/09
I can deal with bears....sharks on the other hand.......of course, I am not talking about if I were menstrual(I’m a guy so that isn’t it), but yeah. I can deal with bears if my arm or something was bleedin’, but sharks? I’ll pass on those. The worst feeling in the world is to be out in the surf and feel something very large brush up against your leg as you were alone waiting for your next wave. I don’t think I’ve gone out past waist deep in the ocean since. lol It was probably just a damn dolphin or something, but yeah. Screw sharks and the evolutionary train they rode in on!
by papigrande on Jan 10, 2009 11:52 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I just don't understand the McDaniels pick? Unless Pioli comes with him!!
I think all signs are pointing to him…the Mastermind used to own his mentor? How do you get rid a coach who was better than this coaches mentor? How does that make sense?
Was it hard? "It hurts. But tough times don’t last — tough people do. That’s life." - Mike Shanahan
by Steve O' on Jan 10, 2009 11:13 AM MST reply actions 0 recs
I think Pioli is overrated and our personnel staff is underrated.
I expect one of our three guys in house will be promoted after the HC is hired. ;-)
This is my GAP, there are many like it but this one is mine. Without my GAP I am useless, without me, they will run through my GAP. I will protect my GAP and have my brothers back on his. I will not be moved from my GAP, I am a crazed dog that patrols this area and will defeat all who entire it. I own this GAP, it is mine. I bought it with blood and sweat. I will not be pushed. I will not be moved. This Sunday I will make a stand and a statement.
by Tim Lynch on Jan 10, 2009 1:31 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I've heard
that McDaniels is planning on bringing Dom Capers in to be the DC.
That sounds pretty good to me.
"It's all over Fat Man" - Tom Jackson to John Madden 1977 AFC Championship Game
"tough times don't last, tough people do" - Mike "The Mastermind" Shanahan
by DesertBroncoFan on Jan 10, 2009 5:29 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Mort isn't exactly the herald of truth...
but at least he’s not Ed Werder so I guess we should give pause and consider the final two (although I’m still hoping Morris prevails). In other news, let’s pick on the Pats!
Also, explain to me again how we can Morris as DC with Fraiser as HC? I’d love that move, but would the NFL allow us to name Fraiser HC and Morris DC, Asst HC?
I wish Woody Paige was our coach!
by bcfunk on Jan 10, 2009 11:31 AM MST reply actions 0 recs
I don't like any of this, did Al Davis send in a minion to destroy us?
Was it hard? "It hurts. But tough times don’t last — tough people do. That’s life." - Mike Shanahan
by Steve O' on Jan 10, 2009 11:47 AM MST reply actions 0 recs
Its funny
BBS says Denver has a lot of cocky dudes? WTF is that all about. Last time I checked on of our “character guys” wasnt being investigated for a gun crime. Lucky for him there was insuffcuient evidence. First this guy continually bashes Shanny, now the team. Well the last time I checked our QB didnt throw his OL under the bus after a first round loss (boy isnt that a familiar tune Colt fan). Lets see Denver is up and coming, the Colts have had 6 straight 12 win seasons and exaclty 2 AFC title game and 1 super bowl.
I dont like either guy to tell ya the truth
somethings wrong, Trying to conquer these fears i thought were gone. And it's been so long, I'm dying to live in a world i don't belong
by broncfanstuckinsd on Jan 10, 2009 1:04 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
Gotta admit
This year I got sickof seeing Nate Webster running his mouth after holding a RB to a 15 yd gain. It’s not hard to see where BBS gets his impression from.
aka MN Bronco
by pubkeeper on Jan 10, 2009 1:57 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
well. . .
As many stops as the Bronco defense made, I kind of gave him a pass. I mean it was rare Webster actually made a play
somethings wrong, Trying to conquer these fears i thought were gone. And it's been so long, I'm dying to live in a world i don't belong
by broncfanstuckinsd on Jan 10, 2009 2:27 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Frazier
The more time passes, the more I like Frazier as the HC pick.
by Cletus on Jan 10, 2009 1:12 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
+1
This is my GAP, there are many like it but this one is mine. Without my GAP I am useless, without me, they will run through my GAP. I will protect my GAP and have my brothers back on his. I will not be moved from my GAP, I am a crazed dog that patrols this area and will defeat all who entire it. I own this GAP, it is mine. I bought it with blood and sweat. I will not be pushed. I will not be moved. This Sunday I will make a stand and a statement.
by Tim Lynch on Jan 10, 2009 1:32 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Frazier
If BBS is correct I would ride the Frazier/Morris train to a Championship!! The more I read about this guy the more I warm up to the idea…
by Orange_Crush on Jan 10, 2009 1:59 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
I would say there is a 2% chance that Morris leaves Tampa other than to be a HC
I just can’t see the Bucs allowing Morris to leave. Their defensive coaching staff has been obliterated this offseason and he is about all that is left. I am guessing the Bucs don’t want to have to rebuild the staff from scratch and are praying that Morris does not get offered a head coaching position
by MattR on Jan 10, 2009 3:50 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Can't even talk to Morris @ DC...
it’s called tampering. League rules permit team to talk to other teams’ coordinator about head coaching positions. But teams are barred from contacting other teams’ staff about lateral moves without that teams permission. I doubt seriously that Tampa would allow anyone to talk to Morris about anything less than a HC position.
by SlowWhiteGuy on Jan 11, 2009 11:16 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
True about the tampering
Denver gets around that since they interviewed him for the HC position. That it may also have been a defacto interview for the DC position is a bonus. I think Denver would be in the clear to ask TB for permission to hire Morris as a DC based on the HC interview. But there is no way Tampa would grant the permission.
by MattR on Jan 11, 2009 1:07 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Off-Topic.
My playoff picks today are the Ravens and Panthers. Let’s see if I can’t take my streak to 6/6. I wouldn’t mind Frazier because I want a defensive guy that would keep the offensive staff we already have.
by ejruiz on Jan 10, 2009 2:25 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
do you think the ravens game will be under 34?
somethings wrong, Trying to conquer these fears i thought were gone. And it's been so long, I'm dying to live in a world i don't belong
by broncfanstuckinsd on Jan 10, 2009 2:28 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
It could be under 14...
Those are two of the best scoring defenses in the nfl.
by SlowWhiteGuy on Jan 10, 2009 2:46 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
And after the game, a very good DC will become available for interviews
by MattR on Jan 10, 2009 3:53 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah why are we interviewing all the guys that aren't working instead of waiting for some of the guys who still are?
Was it hard? "It hurts. But tough times don’t last — tough people do. That’s life." - Mike Shanahan
by Steve O' on Jan 10, 2009 4:18 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Yea Schwartz is a very good DC...
or did you mean Ryan. With all their defensive talent my grandmother could coach the Ravens D. I want someone who can take a bunch of castoffs and still assemble a good D.
by SlowWhiteGuy on Jan 11, 2009 11:19 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Both really.
I must admit to being a bit surprised by the Broncos lack of interest in Schwartz (at least publicly) Might be related to the fact that Fisher and Shanahan were close.
by MattR on Jan 11, 2009 1:00 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I don't like Schwartz's defensive strategy.
He’s a good coordinator, but I don’t think we have the personnel to run his stuff. He hardly ever blitzes and plays a very conservative run contain. Similar to a certain Jim Bates…
"WTF" By Zappa. 1/5/09
I can deal with bears....sharks on the other hand.......of course, I am not talking about if I were menstrual(I’m a guy so that isn’t it), but yeah. I can deal with bears if my arm or something was bleedin’, but sharks? I’ll pass on those. The worst feeling in the world is to be out in the surf and feel something very large brush up against your leg as you were alone waiting for your next wave. I don’t think I’ve gone out past waist deep in the ocean since. lol It was probably just a damn dolphin or something, but yeah. Screw sharks and the evolutionary train they rode in on!
by papigrande on Jan 11, 2009 3:03 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Thanks Gonzo and BBS for your opinion on Frazier.
I would like him over McDaniels because we have had offensive minded Shanahan here for a while so I would like to go the other way this time. Our offense is fine, so now we need a defense Jay can trust from week to week.
I also agree with you on Cutler and Marshall because sometimes they need to keep things to themselves. Not every opinion needs to be said……..take the 5th sometimes.
"It doesn't dissipate" ~ Mike Shanahan
Cutler's 4th qtr/OT game winning drives: 9
by weazel on Jan 10, 2009 10:17 PM MST reply actions 0 recs

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