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What Exactly Is A Spread Offense?

Have you ever stopped to consider that question?  I've observed a lot of commentary about this "offense" here, on the rest of the blogosphere, on the DP-and-RMN-osphere, and from the idiot-on-tv-osphere.  This commentary takes different forms and attitudes.

A.  I don't like Jeremy Bates because he runs the spread offense.

B.  Josh McDaniels is a great choice for Head Coach because he runs the spread offense.

C.  A physical team always beats a spread offense.

D.  A spread offense can't run the ball effectively.

You get the idea.  It is my strong belief that there is no original form of offense called a spread offense.  I think that everybody will agree with me, once they read this post.  See you in continue-reading-ville....

Star-divide

We have to talk about offensive philosophy, in order to get to the question of what a spread offense is.  So, ponder if you will, what the objective for an offense is.  Obviously, an offense seeks to score points, right?  There are several ways to do this, but the best idea is to attack the weak spots of a defense, and even more than that, to make a defense adjust to what you're doing.  If you're adjusting to the defense, you're in trouble from the jump-off.

Since about 1960, there have been only 3 original NFL forms of offense launched.  The first was the Sid Gillman vertical passing game, which started out being called the West Coast offense, and later came to be called Air Coryell.  That featured deep drops by the QB, and downfield routes for the WRs.  Almost everybody eventually came to run some form of it in the 1970s.  It screamed for an antidote, and the 3-4 defense came into vogue to defend it.

The 3-4 hit its peak with Lawrence Taylor (the ONLY real LT) wreaking havoc, and Bill Walsh refined an offense which he started tinkering with in the 1970s in Cincinnati.  This would later become known as the West Coast offense also, and still is typically called that today.  The West Coast offense caused a mostly league-wide shift back to 40 fronts and faster LBs.

In the middle of all of this, during the late 1980s, an offense called the Run & Shoot emerged in the NFL.  It was the brainchild of a coach named Darrel "Mouse" Davis.  He first deployed it at the high school level, then at Portland State University, and then the CFL with the Toronto Argonauts, and Houston Gamblers and Denver Gold of the USFL, before he finally got hired as Offensive Coordinator under Wayne Fontes in Detroit.  His offense worked at every level, but came under much criticism in the NFL before it got a great chance to do well.  Jerry Glanville, Kevin Gilbride, and June Jones all ran it with success at the NFL level.  Glanville and Jones were run out of the league as crazies, and Gilbride pretty much had to stop running it to keep a job.  The fact is, though, it worked.

What makes the preceding troika all forms of offense is that there is an underlying philosophy behind them.  The Gillman/Coryell vertical scheme seeks to move defensive players back from the line of scrimmage, and to make their first step be backward, thus allowing a runner more room to run straight to an assigned hole.  The Walsh West Coast scheme seeks to make defenders move laterally, thus allowing vertical running lanes to open when the defender gets knocked down with the help of his own momentum.  The Run & Shoot used minimum protection, and sent receivers running both vertically and horizontally.  The innovative idea with it though, and what most people forget now, is that the scheme featured a QB rollout or half-roll on every passing play.  That rolling out allowed the QB more time to find all those receivers, despite the minimum number of blockers.  With all of that time, went the Mouse Davis philosophy, there's no way a defense has enough good CBs to contend with 4 good WRs.

Now, what is a spread offense?  Well, a lot of offensive schemes are called spread offenses, but there is wild variability between the characteristics of them.  Generally speaking, what is called a spread offense is really just a new take on the philosophies of the Walsh West Coast scheme or the Mouse Davis Run & Shoot.  The idea is still to make defenses cover the whole field, from sideline-to-sideline.  The term "spread" typically comes from a few common personnel groupings and formations.

If you watched the Florida Gators at all this year, you'd have an idea what I am talking about.  Their version of the "spread" is a combination of a zone-blocked West Coast passing and running scheme, with a triple option package as a bonus, and it's all run almost entirely out of the shotgun.  It looks new and fresh, but it's actually a combination of two time-tested and venerable schemes.  West Virginia's version is similar also, and even more run-heavy.  Both seek to run the ball creatively, more than anything.

If you look at Missouri's or Texas Tech's offense, they're more pass-happy.  They're not doing nearly as much option stuff, and they're really running a mix of West Coast and Run & Shoot concepts when you get down to it, with 3 and 4 WR personnel.

The New England Patriots have run a lot of shotgun/multi-WR stuff the past couple years, but it's still the same West Coast ideas that 2/3 of the NFL runs.  They just get their most threatening personnel on the field to accomplish it. 

With Jeremy Bates this year, it was the same story.  Toward the end of the season, with no healthy RBs, Marshall-Royal-Stokley-Scheffler-Graham was really just the 5 most threatening guys he had to work with.  That is not a spread offense.  There was no seismic shift in philosophy, just a decision made on personnel groupings and formations.  If Torain or Hillis were healthy, I'm certain that there would have been less of it, though particularly with Hillis, he looked his best when he was running out of spread-out formations.

A personnel grouping alone doesn't make something a form of offense.  That's the overarching point here, that the wheel doesn't get reinvented too frequently, it only seems that way if you listen to people  who don't really know what they're talking about.  If you ask any supposed innovator, like Mike Shanahan or Urban Meyer or Josh McDaniels, I'm sure they'd tell you that what they're doing isn't really anything new, just a subtle change and an attempt at improvement from things which have worked in the past.

I hope for coaches who will work to think of ways to best attack defenses, and threaten their weak spots.  I like what I have seen from Jeremy Bates in that respect, and Josh McDaniels certainly displays a good track record in that way also.  Let's not take good and creative coaching, though, and give it some name which means nothing in particular, but which has people's value judgments attached to it.  Let's be more intelligent than that, because there aren't enough TV jobs for all of us.

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Good post Ted!

I’ve always thought of the spread as any offense that tries to stretch the field horizontally at the los using 3+ WR sets, usually using an singleback or empty backfield. In fact, I would say the minimal use of an I-formation (no FB)is one prominent characteristic of a spread that differentiates it from previous offenses. The spread also tends to use more WR screens, or ‘bubble screens’.

I don’t think that the running game is hurt by a ‘spread’ formation as it forces defenders out of the ‘box’ and, thus, can make a singleback very successful running inside the tackles (i.e. Peyton Hillis). Ultimately I think your point is valid that the distinction between a spread and its predecesors is often vague at best.

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by PosterNutbag on Jan 10, 2009 6:09 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

The spread is a trend more than an offense

You do bring up the excellent point that the spread isn’t a specific offense, but rather an offensive philosophy. It does lend an interesting slant to any offense, basically creating space on the field for your athletes to work.

Still, although it isn’t so much a unique offense, it brings its own characteristics to any offense. Most spreads are run out of the shotgun and the sets are obviously more WR heavy, so an offense that uses a lot of spread style formations will generally be more pass happy than others.

I personally like spread style offenses, they force the defensive players to be much more accountable on themselves. It keeps a great defensive player from covering up a teammates poor play by forcing everyone to keep assignments.

by tricks318 on Jan 10, 2009 6:14 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

I beg to disagree...

while the run and shoot looks similar it is not the “spread offense” that is employed today. The spread was developed by LaVell Edwards while head coach at BYU. Edwards looked at the defenses in the 70’s, run oriented zones, and decided that they could be exploited by a different passing attack. Edwards routinely put 5 receivers into patterns. But what makes it a spread is not the multiple receiver package that we look at today. It’s the concept of the “zone-read” This required the receivers to spread out over the field, read the zone, and adjust their patterns to attack the seems. Edwards teams frequently ran once they had spread the opponents defense out.

Edwards coached Marc Wilson, Jim McMahon, Steve Young, and Ty Detmer. Possibly more important is the list of coaches he schooled. Mike Holmgren, Mike Leach (Tx Tech), Andy Reid, Norm Chow, Kyle Wittingham (Utah), Brian Billick…

And yes the Broncos did run a spread, and they ran it in games 1, 2, & 3, even when everyone was healthy. But you are correct, the Spread has nothing to do with pass-first v. run-first. There are pass-first spreads & run-first spreads. The key is the use of 4 to 5 receivers to stretch the field vertically AND horizontally followed by attacks to the seems. Since there are fewer blockers the spread often employs the shotgun, but that is not an essential ingredient.

by SlowWhiteGuy on Jan 10, 2009 7:01 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

I didn't think of LaVell Edwards...

But the concepts BYU employed are somewhat dissimilar to what gets called a “spread” today. The pass routes tended to be vertical, whereas most of what you see today is horizontal. By that, I mean the formation served to spread the field horizontally, but the routes were largely geared toward backing defenders up, a la the Sid Gillman philosophy.

Option-routes were a major staple of the Walsh West Coast scheme, also. They hit the NFL with the 49ers in the late 70s and early 80s. Not being as steeped in BYU history, I guess I see things a little differently, but I see nothing in what is called a “Spread” which is very original when you get down to it. Solid comment, though.

The Broncos this year did a lot of different stuff offensively, but it was all geared at attacking weaknesses. There was a tremendous amount of game-planning done, as usual for a Shanahan team.

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by Ted Bartlett on Jan 10, 2009 7:21 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Great post

I am not a Broncos fan at all and don’t care too much about them (this was my first time ever on MHP) but after reading this I am definitely going to come back here, especially if i can expect this kind of writing. Nothing to add just wanted to say I really enjoyed reading this, one of the best football pieces I’ve read on sbnation.

by Brendan Scolari on Jan 10, 2009 7:08 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

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by John Bena on Jan 10, 2009 7:15 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

I like HT's old MS Paint drawings from the early days...

This make any sense to anyone?

"WTF" By Zappa. 1/5/09

I can deal with bears....sharks on the other hand.......of course, I am not talking about if I were menstrual(I’m a guy so that isn’t it), but yeah. I can deal with bears if my arm or something was bleedin’, but sharks? I’ll pass on those. The worst feeling in the world is to be out in the surf and feel something very large brush up against your leg as you were alone waiting for your next wave. I don’t think I’ve gone out past waist deep in the ocean since. lol It was probably just a damn dolphin or something, but yeah. Screw sharks and the evolutionary train they rode in on!

by papigrande on Jan 10, 2009 7:57 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

And the poll questions:

Would Batman be a good fit at OLB?

HELL YES!!! And the Joker for head coach, just so long as he doesn’t kill everyone, like he does in the heist at the beginning of The Dark Knight.

"WTF" By Zappa. 1/5/09

I can deal with bears....sharks on the other hand.......of course, I am not talking about if I were menstrual(I’m a guy so that isn’t it), but yeah. I can deal with bears if my arm or something was bleedin’, but sharks? I’ll pass on those. The worst feeling in the world is to be out in the surf and feel something very large brush up against your leg as you were alone waiting for your next wave. I don’t think I’ve gone out past waist deep in the ocean since. lol It was probably just a damn dolphin or something, but yeah. Screw sharks and the evolutionary train they rode in on!

by papigrande on Jan 10, 2009 7:59 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Haha

Those are always hilarious and he sometimes says excuse the artwork, but the GREAT part about them is it makes you read the article. Then, suddenly, as if by magic…you become…ENLIGHTENED to the ways of the Teach. All hail MHR University. We need those Paint drawings back someday….maybe just once haha

by phantom818 on Jan 10, 2009 8:04 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

I love all the MHR University sessions.

and those pictures do actually help. Sometimes words don’t do enough justice.

"It doesn't dissipate" ~ Mike Shanahan

Cutler's 4th qtr/OT game winning drives: 9

by weazel on Jan 10, 2009 8:52 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

You'll enjoy all of the "general football" pieces on here.

BTW, How bout them Cardinals?! Where did this come from? Winning a road playoff game to get to the NFC Championship Game? If anyone would have told me that would happen at the beginning of the year, I would have laughed in their face. But in the end, I have to say I’m pulling for you guys. Go get ’em!!

"WTF" By Zappa. 1/5/09

I can deal with bears....sharks on the other hand.......of course, I am not talking about if I were menstrual(I’m a guy so that isn’t it), but yeah. I can deal with bears if my arm or something was bleedin’, but sharks? I’ll pass on those. The worst feeling in the world is to be out in the surf and feel something very large brush up against your leg as you were alone waiting for your next wave. I don’t think I’ve gone out past waist deep in the ocean since. lol It was probably just a damn dolphin or something, but yeah. Screw sharks and the evolutionary train they rode in on!

by papigrande on Jan 10, 2009 7:27 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

If anyone would have told me that would happen at the beginning of the year, I would have laughed in their face.

Which means….that they have now become THIS year’s “Giants.” Imagine that. This game has certainly been crazy to watch.

by phantom818 on Jan 10, 2009 7:44 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Denver Broncos... 2010's Cardinals???

"WTF" By Zappa. 1/5/09

I can deal with bears....sharks on the other hand.......of course, I am not talking about if I were menstrual(I’m a guy so that isn’t it), but yeah. I can deal with bears if my arm or something was bleedin’, but sharks? I’ll pass on those. The worst feeling in the world is to be out in the surf and feel something very large brush up against your leg as you were alone waiting for your next wave. I don’t think I’ve gone out past waist deep in the ocean since. lol It was probably just a damn dolphin or something, but yeah. Screw sharks and the evolutionary train they rode in on!

by papigrande on Jan 10, 2009 7:51 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Err... 2009's Cardinals???

Getting ahead of myself here. We could be the Cardinals of the 2010 playoffs.

"WTF" By Zappa. 1/5/09

I can deal with bears....sharks on the other hand.......of course, I am not talking about if I were menstrual(I’m a guy so that isn’t it), but yeah. I can deal with bears if my arm or something was bleedin’, but sharks? I’ll pass on those. The worst feeling in the world is to be out in the surf and feel something very large brush up against your leg as you were alone waiting for your next wave. I don’t think I’ve gone out past waist deep in the ocean since. lol It was probably just a damn dolphin or something, but yeah. Screw sharks and the evolutionary train they rode in on!

by papigrande on Jan 10, 2009 7:52 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

No, my friend...

the 2008 GIANTS…They won the Super Bowl :-D (BIG SLY SMILE)

by phantom818 on Jan 10, 2009 7:52 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

However,

I think a lot of this stems from confusion in identification. Plenty of teams do use the spread FORMATION, and Missouri in particular in recent years has been excellent in literally spreading the field near the goal line to make it much easier to open up the quick routes to wide receivers. That, in effect, is a SPREAD..am I not right? However, you raise a good point in the fact that it’s not necessarily a true offensive PHILOSOPHY like its forefathers. Therefore, it’s not necessarily a set in stone, “this is how to run a spread” offense.

I think a lot of this confusion comes from often intermixing the terms offense and formation. You can certainly run and pass out of the spread, and it certainly does have its advantages and specific purposes on the field…as a FORMATION. So no, while there may be no true “Spread Offense” like a “West Coast Offense,” there is certainly a spread formation…which is where we get the idea in the first place.

If you look at a team like Penn State, they had a philosophy they called “The Spread HD.” And yes, it was a philosophy, involving QB runs, WR plays, and often multiple receiver packages spreading out the defensive coverage. Yes, it’s hard to innovate these days, and even the “Wildcat” is a FORMATION rather than an offensive philosophy obviously.

by phantom818 on Jan 10, 2009 7:52 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

Good observation

there are “spread” formations and “spread” offenses. A spread formation does not necessarily mean they are running a spread offense nor does a spread offense require the team to line up in a spread formation (though that is often the case). The MSM doesn’t help this by indiscriminately intermixing the terms.

by SlowWhiteGuy on Jan 10, 2009 10:10 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

I don't know if its just FOX or

all MSM—- but the start of this game, they said to the cardinals ( as they said to the broncos before the jet game ) might as will not get off the plane fellers——and….

I see said the Blind man to the Deaf man who was near.
What is it you hear when I speak in your ear.

by UB3 on Jan 10, 2009 7:53 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

and now they are destroying the Panthers.

Jake has 4 INTs today and Smith caught his first pass near the end of the 3rd quarter.

"It doesn't dissipate" ~ Mike Shanahan

Cutler's 4th qtr/OT game winning drives: 9

by weazel on Jan 10, 2009 8:54 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

By the way great post ted

I see said the Blind man to the Deaf man who was near.
What is it you hear when I speak in your ear.

by UB3 on Jan 10, 2009 7:56 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

Damn...

My streak ends at five; damn you Jake Delhomme!

by ejruiz on Jan 10, 2009 11:46 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

Don't feel bad.

I’m 0 for 6. I’ve got the Steelers and Eagles tomorrow. Watch them both lose.

"WTF" By Zappa. 1/5/09

I can deal with bears....sharks on the other hand.......of course, I am not talking about if I were menstrual(I’m a guy so that isn’t it), but yeah. I can deal with bears if my arm or something was bleedin’, but sharks? I’ll pass on those. The worst feeling in the world is to be out in the surf and feel something very large brush up against your leg as you were alone waiting for your next wave. I don’t think I’ve gone out past waist deep in the ocean since. lol It was probably just a damn dolphin or something, but yeah. Screw sharks and the evolutionary train they rode in on!

by papigrande on Jan 10, 2009 11:48 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

You know...

Maybe it would be almost as impressive to go through the playoffs and get every single game wrong.

"WTF" By Zappa. 1/5/09

I can deal with bears....sharks on the other hand.......of course, I am not talking about if I were menstrual(I’m a guy so that isn’t it), but yeah. I can deal with bears if my arm or something was bleedin’, but sharks? I’ll pass on those. The worst feeling in the world is to be out in the surf and feel something very large brush up against your leg as you were alone waiting for your next wave. I don’t think I’ve gone out past waist deep in the ocean since. lol It was probably just a damn dolphin or something, but yeah. Screw sharks and the evolutionary train they rode in on!

by papigrande on Jan 10, 2009 11:50 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

You will be Detroit!

It all starts in the trenches HT 11/11/08

by firstfan on Jan 10, 2009 11:57 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

motor city papi

or Papi Rock City!

Concision in style, precision in thought, decision in life.

by Jeremy Bolander on Jan 11, 2009 2:46 AM MST up reply actions   0 recs

if you make it to 0-10

You have to tell everyone your Super Bowl pick so we can all bet the opposite (otherwise known as pulling a Costanza)

by MattR on Jan 11, 2009 1:10 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

DAMN!!

The Eagles won… And just after I changed my pick this morning. One for 7… Less impressive than 0/7. Oh well. I’ve got PITT in the late game. Don’t f*** this up Ben Roethlisberger.

"WTF" By Zappa. 1/5/09

I can deal with bears....sharks on the other hand.......of course, I am not talking about if I were menstrual(I’m a guy so that isn’t it), but yeah. I can deal with bears if my arm or something was bleedin’, but sharks? I’ll pass on those. The worst feeling in the world is to be out in the surf and feel something very large brush up against your leg as you were alone waiting for your next wave. I don’t think I’ve gone out past waist deep in the ocean since. lol It was probably just a damn dolphin or something, but yeah. Screw sharks and the evolutionary train they rode in on!

by papigrande on Jan 11, 2009 2:39 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Actually...

I’ve got both games tomorrow (today?) as toss-ups, so I’m taking the ‘dogs straight up for the money even though I’d probably take the Steelers and maybe the Giants in a pure pick’em. So, as awful as it is, I hope you get to 0-8 man! Besides, if I’m at 7-1 after the first two rounds of the playoffs, then I’d be in great hape overall even if I fall off a cliff from then on out. Also, as an anti-playoffs guy at the college level, I’d love for the lesser regular season teams to make it as far as possible.

by ejruiz on Jan 11, 2009 3:03 AM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Nice Post Ted!

I had never given the spread much thought but now seeing it on paper it makes it a lot more clear on the field how they are playing the offense.

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by GarretBarnes on Jan 11, 2009 11:19 AM MST reply actions   0 recs

Thanks

for the education. This stuff fascinates me. You are carrying one of the torches that makes MHR the best.

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by HarvJNep2n on Jan 11, 2009 4:11 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

Oh, and Recommended

-Harvey J. Neptune

"Practice doesn't make perfect. PERFECT practice makes perfect." - Vince Lombardi

by HarvJNep2n on Jan 11, 2009 4:16 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

Nice post

I would say the biggest thing about a spread is that the point is to isolate defenders and get guys matched up one on one. But definately worth the read.

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by Broncoman on Jan 11, 2009 4:38 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

Great Post

Makes a lot more sense now. It is nice to know that a stud tailback can run effectively out of this offense. I remember the Run ’n Shoot offense of the Houston Oilers. The offense took about 5 plays to go the length of the field – and a couple of minutes. Their defense had to be good because they were on the field a long time and frequently.

by Blackknigh on Jan 11, 2009 11:47 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

papigrande

You’re now 2-6. That’s a 33% improvement in 1day. Impressive!

by Blackknigh on Jan 12, 2009 12:01 AM MST reply actions   0 recs

Great stuff again, Ted

I’ve set up a folder for Football Systems and tucked this one in to it. Thanks for all your knowledge, each post.

In Goodman We Trust

by Emmett Smith on Jan 13, 2009 11:01 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

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