MHR Draft Order Resource

by Jeremy Bolander on Apr 4, 2009 12:25 PM MDT in 2009 NFL Draft Comment 39 comments

With the Jay Cutler trade, the draft order chart for every team gets an update. 10 picks, now lets "Bronco-up" and bring this draft home!!!

1st round, pick #12 overall
1st round, pick #18 overall
2nd round, pick #48 overall
3rd round, pick #79 overall
3rd round, pick #84 overall
4th round, pick #114 overall
5th round, pick #149 overall
6th round, pick #185 overall
7th round, pick #225 overall
7th round, pick #235 overall

Updated chart and description of all the trades after the jump...

#	1	2	3	4	5	6	7
1	DET¹	DET³³	DET⁶⁵	¹⁰DAL¹⁰¹	³⁵SEA¹³⁷	DET¹⁷⁴	³⁰DAL²¹⁰
2	STL²	³¹NE³⁴	STL⁶⁶	KC¹⁰²	STL¹³⁸	KC¹⁷⁵	STL²¹¹
3	KC³	STL³⁵	KC⁶⁷	STL¹⁰³	KC¹³⁹	STL¹⁷⁶	KC²¹²
4	SEA⁴	CLE³⁶	SEA⁶⁸	CLE¹⁰⁴	^37,16CHI¹⁴⁰	CLE¹⁷⁷	SEA²¹³
5	CLE⁵	SEA³⁷	⁸DAL⁶⁹	SEA¹⁰⁵	¹³PHI¹⁴¹	SEA¹⁷⁸	²⁴MIA²¹⁴
6	CIN⁶	CIN³⁸	CIN⁷⁰	CIN¹⁰⁶	CIN¹⁴²	CIN¹⁷⁹	CIN²¹⁵
7	OAK⁷	JAX³⁹	OAK⁷¹	JAX¹⁰⁷	¹²ATL¹⁴³	JAX¹⁸⁰	OAK²¹⁶
8	JAX⁸	OAK⁴⁰	JAX⁷²	OAK¹⁰⁸	JAX¹⁴⁴	OAK¹⁸¹	²²TB²¹⁷
9	GB⁹	GB⁴¹	GB⁷³	GB¹⁰⁹	GB¹⁴⁵	GB¹⁸²	GB²¹⁸
10	SF¹⁰	BUF⁴²	SF⁷⁴	BUF¹¹⁰	SF¹⁴⁶	BUF¹⁸³	SF²¹⁹
11	BUF¹¹	SF⁴³	BUF⁷⁵	SF¹¹¹	BUF¹⁴⁷	SF¹⁸⁴	BUF²²⁰
12	DEN¹²	⁴MIA⁴⁴	⁷NYJ⁷⁶	HOU¹¹²	SD¹⁴⁸	DEN¹⁸⁵	²³MIN²²¹
13	WAS¹³	⁵NYG⁴⁵	HOU⁷⁷	SD¹¹³	DEN¹⁴⁹	WAS¹⁸⁶	NO²²²
14	NO¹⁴	HOU⁴⁶	SD⁷⁸	DEN¹¹⁴	WAS¹⁵⁰	¹⁹GB¹⁸⁷	HOU²²³
15	HOU¹⁵	³NE⁴⁷	DEN⁷⁹	¹¹NYJ¹¹⁵	¹⁴NYG¹⁵¹	HOU¹⁸⁸	SD²²⁴
16	SD¹⁶	DEN⁴⁸	WAS⁸⁰	NO¹¹⁶	HOU¹⁵²	SD¹⁸⁹	DEN²²⁵
17	NYJ¹⁷	CHI⁴⁹	TB⁸¹	DAL¹¹⁷	³³PHI¹⁵³	NYJ¹⁹⁰	CHI²²⁶
18	³⁷DEN¹⁸	TB⁵⁰	⁹DET⁸²	NYJ¹¹⁸	CHI¹⁵⁴	²¹TB¹⁹¹	²⁶PIT²²⁷
19	TB¹⁹	DAL⁵¹	⁶GB⁸³	CHI¹¹⁹	TB¹⁵⁵	²⁰CHI¹⁹²	DAL²²⁸
20	²DET²⁰	NYJ⁵²	³⁷DEN⁸⁴	TB¹²⁰	DAL¹⁵⁶	²⁹DET¹⁹³	NYJ²²⁹
21	PHI²¹	PHI⁵³	PHI⁸⁵	³⁸BUF¹²¹	PHI¹⁵⁷	PHI¹⁹⁴	PHI²³⁰
22	MIN²²	MIN⁵⁴	MIN⁸⁶	³²HOU¹²²	MIN¹⁵⁸	¹⁸PHI¹⁹⁵	MIN²³¹
23	NE²³	ATL⁵⁵	MIA⁸⁷	BAL¹²³	³⁴PHI¹⁵⁹	ATL¹⁹⁶	³⁶JAX²³²
24	ATL²⁴	MIA⁵⁶	BAL⁸⁸	NE¹²⁴	ATL¹⁶⁰	¹⁷DAL¹⁹⁷	²⁸TB²³³
25	MIA²⁵	BAL⁵⁷	NE⁸⁹	ATL¹²⁵	MIA¹⁶¹	BAL¹⁹⁸	NE²³⁴
26	BAL²⁶	NE⁵⁸	ATL⁹⁰	MIA¹²⁶	BAL¹⁶²	NE¹⁹⁹	²⁷DEN²³⁵
27	IND²⁷	CAR⁵⁹	NYG⁹¹	IND¹²⁷	CAR¹⁶³	NYG²⁰⁰	IND²³⁶
28	^1,38BUF²⁸	NYG⁶⁰	IND⁹²	CAR¹²⁸	NYG¹⁶⁴	IND²⁰¹	²⁵MIA²³⁷
29	NYG²⁹	IND⁶¹	CAR⁹³	NYG¹²⁹	IND¹⁶⁵	CAR²⁰²	NYG²³⁸
30	TEN³⁰	TEN⁶²	TEN⁹⁴	TEN¹³⁰	¹⁵DAL¹⁶⁶	TEN²⁰³	TEN²³⁹
31	ARI³¹	ARI⁶³	ARI⁹⁵	ARI¹³¹	ARI¹⁶⁷	ARI²⁰⁴	ARI²⁴⁰
32	PIT³²	PIT⁶⁴	PIT⁹⁶	PIT¹³²	PIT¹⁶⁸	PIT²⁰⁵	PIT²⁴¹
			NE⁹⁷	SD¹³³	PIT¹⁶⁹	TEN²⁰⁶	TEN²⁴²
			CIN⁹⁸	SD¹³⁴	NE¹⁷⁰	NE²⁰⁷	WAS²⁴³
			CHI⁹⁹	TEN¹³⁵	SF¹⁷¹	DAL²⁰⁸	SF²⁴⁴
			NYG¹⁰⁰	IND¹³⁶	DAL¹⁷²	CIN²⁰⁹	SEA²⁴⁵
					TEN¹⁷³		CHI²⁴⁶
							SEA²⁴⁷
							SEA²⁴⁸
							CIN²⁴⁹
							JAX²⁵⁰
							CHI²⁵¹
							CIN²⁵²
							JAX²⁵³
							ARI²⁵⁴
							DET²⁵⁵
							KC²⁵⁶

UPDATE!: Curious about point value of the picks for trade purposes? You can find that information right here.

PREDRAFT TRADES

First round

Carolina to Philadelphia. Carolina traded its first-round selection in 2009, as well as its second-round (No. 43: traded to Minnesota and used to select safety Tyrell Johnson) and fourth-round (No. 109: used to select offensive guard Mike McGlynn) selections in 2008 to Philadelphia for the first-round selection of Philadelphia in 2008 (No. 19: used to select offensive tackle Jeff Otah).

Dallas to Detroit. Dallas traded its first-round, third-round, and sixth-round selections in 2009 to Detroit in exchange for wide receiver Roy Williams and a seventh-round selection in the 2010 draft.

37. Chicago to Denver. Chicago traded its first- and third-round selections (No. 18 and 84) in 2009, its first-round selection in 2010, and quarterback Kyle Orton to Denver for quarterback Jay Cutler and one of Denver's fifth-round selections in 2009 (No. 140).

38. Philadelphia to Buffalo. Philadelphia traded one of its first-round selections and its fourth-round selection in 2009, and a sixth-round selection in 2010, to Buffalo for offensive tackle Jason Peters.

Second round

San Diego to New England. San Diego traded their second-round selection in 2009 and fifth-round selection in 2008 (No. 160: traded to Tampa Bay and used to select quarterback Josh Johnson) to New England for the third-round selection of New England in 2008 (No. 69: used to select running back Jacob Hester).

Washington to Miami. Washington traded its second-round selection in 2009 and its sixth-round selection in 2010 to Miami for defensive end Jason Taylor.

New Orleans to New York Giants. New Orleans traded its second-round and fifth-round selections to the New York Giants for tight end Jeremy Shockey. If the Saints re-sign linebacker Jonathan Vilma before free agency begins on February 27, 2009, however, they would owe that second-round selection to the New York Jets, in which case the Giants instead would receive the Saints' first-round selection. See Jonathan Vilma trade below.

31. Kansas City to New England. Kansas City traded its second-round selection to New England for quarterback Matt Cassel and linebacker Mike Vrabel.

Third round

New York Jets to Green Bay. The New York Jets traded a conditional selection to Green Bay for quarterback Brett Favre. The selection became a third-round selection because Favre took the majority of the team's snaps at quarterback. This selection would have become a second- or first-round selection had Favre led the Jets to the playoffs.

New Orleans to New York Jets. New Orleans traded its third-round selection to the Jets for linebacker Jonathan Vilma. That selection rose from the fourth round because of Vilma's playing time in 2008. If the Saints re-sign Vilma before free agency begins on February 27, 2009, then the Saints would owe the Jets a second-round selection. The Saints have traded that second-round selection to the New York Giants as part of the Jeremy Shockey trade, however, so the Giants instead would get the Saints' first-round choice. Because of this, the Saints reportedly will wait until Vilma is a free agent to re-sign him.

Cleveland to Dallas. Cleveland traded its third-round selection in 2009 (No. 69) to Dallas for Dallas' fourth-round selection in 2008 (No, 111: used to select tight end Martin Rucker).

Dallas to Detroit. See above first-round trade for Roy Williams.

Fourth round

Detroit to Dallas. Detroit traded its fourth-round selection in 2009 and third-round selection in 2008 (No. 111: traded to Cleveland, see above trade for Martin Rucker) to Dallas for Dallas' 2008 third-round selection (No. 92: used to select defensive end Cliff Avril).

Washington to New York Jets. Washington traded its fourth-round selection in 2009 to the Jets for guard Pete Kendall prior to the 2007 season. The selection changed from a fifth-round selection in 2008 because Kendall played 80 percent of the snaps for the Jets in 2007.

32. Minnesota to Houston. Minnesota traded its fourth-round selection to Houston for quarterback Sage Rosenfels.

Fifth round

Oakland to Atlanta. Oakland traded its fifth-round selection in 2009 and a second-round selection in 2008 (No. 34: traded to Washington and used to select wide receiver Devin Thomas) to Atlanta for cornerback DeAngelo Hall.

Cleveland to Philadelphia. Cleveland traded its fifth-round selection in 2009 to Philadelphia for Philadelphia's sixth-round selection in 2009 (No. 191: used to select wide receiver Paul Hubbard).

New Orleans to New York Giants. See above second-round trade for Jeremy Shockey.

Tennessee to Dallas. The suspension of cornerback Pacman Jones on October 15, 2008 triggered a clause in his trade agreement that required Tennessee to give Dallas its fifth-round selection. Had Jones not been suspended, Dallas would have owed Tennessee a sixth-round selection.

Seattle to Denver Seattle traded its fifth-round selection to Denver in return for wide receiver Keary Colbert.

33. New York Jets to Philadelphia The New York Jets traded their fifth-round selection and a conditional selection in 2010 to Philadelphia in return for cornerback Lito Sheppard.

34. New England to Philadelphia. New England traded its fifth-round selection in 2009 to Philadelphia for wide receiver Greg Lewis and a seventh-round selection in 2010.

35. Detroit to Seattle. Detroit traded defensive tackle Cory Redding and its fifth-round selection to Seattle for linebacker Julian Peterson.

Sixth round

Miami to Dallas. Miami traded its sixth-round selection in 2009 and sixth-round selection in 2008 (No. 167: used to select linebacker Erik Walden) to Dallas for defensive tackle Jason Ferguson and Dallas' sixth-round selection (No. 195: used to select offensive guard Donald Thomas).
Minnesota to Philadelphia. Minnesota traded its sixth-round selection to Philadelphia for quarterback Kelly Holcomb.

New Orleans to Green Bay. New Orleans traded its sixth-round selection in 2009 to Green Bay for Green Bay's seventh-round selection in 2008 (No. 237: used to select wide receiver Adrian Arrington).

Tampa Bay to Chicago. Tampa Bay traded its sixth-round selection to Chicago for quarterback Brian Griese.

Chicago to Tampa Bay. Chicago traded its sixth-round selection to Tampa Bay for offensive guard Dan Buenning.

29. Dallas to Detroit. See trade #2 above.

Seventh round

Jacksonville to Tampa Bay. Jacksonville traded its seventh-round selection in 2009 and its second-round (No. 58: used to select wide receiver Dexter Jackson) and fifth-round (No. 158: traded to Chicago and used to select tight end Kellen Davis) selections in 2008 to Tampa Bay for Tampa Bay's second-round selection in 2008 (No. 52: used to select defensive end Quentin Groves).

Washington to Minnesota. Washington traded a seventh-round selection to Minnesota for defensive end Erasmus James.

Cleveland to Miami. Cleveland traded its seventh-round selection to Miami for cornerback Travis Daniels.

Carolina to Miami. Carolina traded its seventh-round selection to Miami for quarterback Josh McCown.

Tampa Bay to Pittsburgh. Tampa Bay traded its seventh-round selection to Pittsburgh for offensive lineman Sean Mahan.
Atlanta to Denver. Atlanta traded a seventh-round selection to Denver in return for cornerback Dominique Foxworth. The selection can rise based on playing time and whether Foxworth resigns with Atlanta.

30. Detroit to Dallas. See trade number 2 above.

36. Miami to Jacksonville. Miami traded its seventh-round selection to Jacksonville for defensive tackle Tony McDaniel.

Baltimore to Tampa Bay. Baltimore traded a seventh-round selection in 2009 as well as a conditional selection in 2010 to Tampa Bay for defensive end Marques Douglas.

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I thought the pick for Foxworth

Was based on whether Foxy resigned with the Falcons, not on playing time…

"It's all over Fat Man" - Tom Jackson to John Madden 1977 AFC Championship Game

"tough times don't last, tough people do" - Mike "The Mastermind" Shanahan

by DesertBroncoFan on Jan 11, 2009 1:07 PM MST reply actions 0 recs

and shouldn't playing time be determined by now?

Jason
The Hanging Curve

by poorboywilly on Jan 11, 2009 2:39 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs

It's based on whether or not he resigns with them, not playing time.

"WTF" By Zappa. 1/5/09

I can deal with bears....sharks on the other hand.......of course, I am not talking about if I were menstrual(I’m a guy so that isn’t it), but yeah. I can deal with bears if my arm or something was bleedin’, but sharks? I’ll pass on those. The worst feeling in the world is to be out in the surf and feel something very large brush up against your leg as you were alone waiting for your next wave. I don’t think I’ve gone out past waist deep in the ocean since. lol It was probably just a damn dolphin or something, but yeah. Screw sharks and the evolutionary train they rode in on!

by papigrande on Jan 11, 2009 2:46 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs

If you can find a link that is official Papi

I will quickly get this changed. All of the official reports from the NFL have the same wording, both in the Denver papers and the Atlanta papers: they say that it is a conditional seventh round pick contingent upon playing time.

The only place I have seen mention of the “resigned contingency” is among fans.

Link me up papisan and I will have it changed in two shakes of a kitsune’s tail…

Concision in style, precision in thought, decision in life.

by Jeremy Bolander on Jan 11, 2009 3:40 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs

Are you serious or are you just being kawaii?

Note to any reader, any use of the word kawaii in an English sentence to describe something such as a kitten, koala, duckling, etc., will result in me trying to climb through the Internets just so I can personally set you on fire. I HATE this word and all people who use it (everyone on Facebook at my school.)

Link.

Broncos will receive a seventh round draft pick for Foxworth, which can turn into a sixth-round pick if he signs a contract extension with the Falcons before the 2009 NFL draft.

"WTF" By Zappa. 1/5/09

by papigrande on Jan 11, 2009 3:47 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs

thanks papi

at first I almost threw the link away since it led me to a fanblog and then to PFT of all places, but drilling down got me to CBS4. Unfotunately CBS4 has been wrong before, but I also found a recent note by the Post backing this up, though no official links or references to team pressers or releases.

So I took the halfway road and added the resigning contingency until something more solid comes along. It is a wierd combination of reports: usually the early ones are wrong, but in this case an early one matches up with the most recent one, with the ones in between saying something different. One thing that bothers me about the CBS4 link is that they speculated that if he resigns we get an ADDITIONAL 6th rounder. That is in addition to the seventh, not just a sixth in lieu of a seventh if he resigns…. but then if it is based primarily n playing time, why don’t they know yet?? So rather than try to guess I have just included both conditions. It will sort itself out eventually.

Concision in style, precision in thought, decision in life.

by Jeremy Bolander on Jan 11, 2009 4:28 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs

Yes, that "additional" language threw me

It was reported by Guru as a conditional 7ht, possibly 6th here at MHR. But Williamson of ESPN had it as based on playing time.

I’ve never found anything more on this, and the sources out there are relying on us (yes, we’re actually the most cited source) and we got it from CBS. So it’s anyone’s guess, it just seems foolish to trade Foxy for so little. I’m hoping that there is a 6th rounder, too.

Pitt. just scored — bye, bye SD.

by Colinski on Jan 11, 2009 5:12 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs

My understanding...

The pick was a 7th that could go to a 6th based on playing time and Atlanta resigning him.

Those that cant coach, compete!
Failing to plan is planning to fail.

by boydy2669 on Mar 24, 2009 7:52 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

I am with Papi...7th if not resigned and could have been as a high as 5th if resigned BASED on playing time??? Does that sound right????

Those that cant coach, compete!
Failing to plan is planning to fail.

by boydy2669 on Apr 4, 2009 6:53 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

My apologies...did not realise this was an update of a post...too much news to catch up on. WOW!

Those that cant coach, compete!
Failing to plan is planning to fail.

by boydy2669 on Apr 4, 2009 6:55 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

This is a fantastic resource.

I am Jack's unbridled optimism.

by SlamDunkTheFunk on Jan 11, 2009 2:17 PM MST reply actions 0 recs

+1

This is getting printed out. Styg, are you planing on updating it as things change?

aka MN Bronco

by pubkeeper on Jan 11, 2009 2:24 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs

Absolutely

I have already temporarily updated it once, based on the giants game. Some things to consider: no matter what, TEN will pick #30, but for the sake of ease I have them at #31 right now, with PIT at #32. With so many wildcards moving on it makes the number of affected picks much greater, since if SD or PHI play in the Superbowl it could bump as many as 16 teams up the list.

If SD loses tonight it will cement about a third of those teams that are still up in the air…

Concision in style, precision in thought, decision in life.

by Jeremy Bolander on Jan 11, 2009 3:31 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs

Yes, Tenn. is the 30th now

by Colinski on Jan 11, 2009 3:49 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs

re: San Diego

I want them to lose the SB, it’s one way we will move up. Having them out of the tied group of Denver, Washington, New Orleans and Houston will move us up one placement in every round, because they won’t be a part of our “rotation” — I believe.

by Colinski on Jan 11, 2009 3:55 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs

absolutely right.

our pick will be the same in the 1st and sixth, but everywhere else we move up 1 pick.

Concision in style, precision in thought, decision in life.

by Jeremy Bolander on Jan 11, 2009 3:58 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs

Oooh...

That’s intriguing. Although I wouldn’t be able to stand looking at Phyllis Rivers’ face for two straight weeks.. Or the gloating Chargers fans.. Or LT’s pouty face… Yeah, I’m just going to root for them to lose.

"WTF" By Zappa. 1/5/09

by papigrande on Jan 11, 2009 4:06 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs

correct, I wasn't thinking of that

We can’t go any higher than 12th but our tied group contains one less team. It’s actually not that trivial.

We’d rotate as: 12th(1st), 15th(2nd-#47), 14th(3rd-#78), 13th(4th-?), 12th(5th-?), 4th(5th-?),15th(5th-?), 12th(6th-?), 15th(7th-?), *27th(7th-?) — and if Foxworth signs this pick should become the 24th pick in the 6th.

by Colinski on Jan 11, 2009 4:25 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs

Compensatory picks

I’ve done my share of damage on this issue recently, but there are a number of resources now with the ‘order’ of the 1st, 2nd and 3rd rounds as well as the ‘sequence’ for following rounds, with some additional picks to be determined. The Super Bowl results will determine the #32 & #31 picks in each round, and a draft order tiebreaker exists between playoff teams based on how far the teams advance in playoffs.

Additionally, there will be a number of compensatory picks, which will be determined at the NFL’s annual meeting, which occurs at the end of March.

Compensatory Picks

In addition to the 32 picks in each round, there are a total of 32 picks awarded at the ends of Rounds 3 through 7. These picks, known as “compensatory picks,” are awarded to teams that have lost more qualifying free agents than they gained the previous year in free agency. Teams that gain and lose the same number of players but lose higher-valued players than they gain also can be awarded a pick, but only in the seventh round, after the other compensatory picks. Compensatory picks cannot be traded, and the placement of the picks is determined by a proprietary formula based on the player’s salary, playing time, and postseason honors with his new team, with salary being the primary factor. So, for example, a team that lost a linebacker who signed for $2.5 million per year in free agency might get a sixth-round compensatory pick, while a team that lost a wide receiver who signed for $5 million per year might receive a fourth-round pick.

If fewer than 32 such picks are awarded, the remaining picks are awarded in the order in which teams would pick in a hypothetical eighth round of the draft (These are known as “supplemental compensatory selections”).

Compensatory picks are awarded each year at the NFL annual meeting which is held at the end of March; typically, about three or four weeks before the draft. — from Wikipedia

The actual placement of picks after the 32nd pick(#96) in the 3rd round will be affected by the compensatory picks. The order of non-compensatory picks will be set at the conclusion of the Super Bowl.

BTW — I don’t believe we’ll be getting any compensatory picks, since I don’t think lost any FAs lately. Does anyone have any information on this issue?

by Colinski on Jan 11, 2009 3:48 PM MST reply actions 0 recs

I will be posting in the near future on compensatory picks

mostly a “how to” guide on how they are determined, with the caveat that the NFL guards the recipe better than colonel Sanders guards his … One can analyze the past picks handed out and establish some rules of thumb, though, which make it possible to be very close….

Concision in style, precision in thought, decision in life.

by Jeremy Bolander on Jan 11, 2009 4:00 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs

Yes, their secret proprietary formula is based on $$$

As in how much the FA makes, they’ve probably got a dash of nutmeg thrown in, too.

by Colinski on Jan 11, 2009 4:32 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs

So

who places the value on FA loses? and if they are untradeable why does AJ Smith blow about that he traded some?

Sorry I am not being sarcastic I genuinely want to know!

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Davis and Sharpe to the Hall!

by Jon Tollerud on Mar 24, 2009 10:18 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

the losses are determined

by how much they are paid, palying time for their new team, and possibly some production. The big one is playing time though, and I believe it is measured in plays, which is one reason Elam probably wasn’t wotrh much in the process: he just doesn’t play that many snaps ina game, and we had too many offsetting free agents we signed.

Amnesty, the idea that you can forgive transgressions against you, gives as much to one side, as it does the other. It has the noble quality of bestowing mercy to both parties.

by Jeremy Bolander on Mar 24, 2009 11:02 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

Nice chart by the way.

It’s very pretty. I will most definitely be printing it out. If there is a final version with all the trades and compensatory picks included, I’ll have to print that one out too.. I can’t wait ‘til mock draft season. My record in the first round is 7, last year. Will we have some kind of MHR pool with mock drafts? (Answer, yes. I will be making it unless it’s something Guru usually does.)

"WTF" By Zappa. 1/5/09

by papigrande on Jan 11, 2009 3:52 PM MST reply actions 0 recs

there will be multiple versions

including the post superbowl version (all slots cemented), the post owner’s meeting version (compensatory picks added, picks renumbered), and of course the grand poobah predraft version (including speculation on draft day trades to watch for etc.)

And this is only the first resource coming to you guys. There is a holiday coming up that can only be celebrated on MHR. Be there or be square!

Concision in style, precision in thought, decision in life.

by Jeremy Bolander on Jan 11, 2009 4:02 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs

Just noticed something

Atlanta’s pick in the 6th is higher than in the 7th because of rotation. They’re at the top of their tied group (24th, 25th, 26th and 27th) in the 6th but at the bottom in the 7th.

by Colinski on Jan 11, 2009 4:02 PM MST reply actions 0 recs

nice little bonus!

pays to be lucky sometimes. SD and PHI in the superbowl will also bump the pick two spots. I have zero problem rooting for PHI, but SD is gonna be tough. I suppose I will just root for them to lose in the SB…

Concision in style, precision in thought, decision in life.

by Jeremy Bolander on Jan 11, 2009 4:31 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs

Neat, but it doesn't look like one of them is going

down 11 now, and Pit used half the 3rd in the process.

by Colinski on Jan 11, 2009 4:37 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs

Send in the Failboat!!

Why can’t you advance that fumble? Lame rule. Also, anyone see Philly’s face after he threw that tipped interception? Priceless.

"WTF" By Zappa. 1/5/09

by papigrande on Jan 11, 2009 4:54 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs

What in the world was I talking about?

lol

I seem to have lost my future self.

by papigrande on Apr 4, 2009 1:14 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

you should be used

to talking to the past you….

Amnesty, the idea that you can forgive transgressions against you, gives as much to one side, as it does the other. It has the noble quality of bestowing mercy to both parties.

There is no army so powerful as an idea whose time has come.

by Jeremy Bolander on Apr 4, 2009 1:35 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs