Tales: The Journey of Shonn Greene
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A lot of people in this world have no greater enemy than themselves. It could be said that we all do. Shonn Greene, the 5’11 235 lb. running back for the Iowa Hawkeyes knows that first hand. Before he could juke out of the reach of linebackers and opposing safeties, he had to get out of his own way. That job was, by far, the hardest.
In 2007, Greene, a running back from little known Sickerville New Jersey was a junior at Iowa University on a football scholarship. He hadn’t found his niche in the college experience, and that spring he lost his academic eligibility at Iowa. Listed on the depth chart as a 2nd stringer before leaving, without a degree and fumbling for a direction he took a job moving furniture in a store just down the road from Kinnick stadium, a place where he had spent to previous year striving to power his way through opposing lines and defenders. His running style had produced only 69 carries in his first two seasons: he had trouble putting in the hours that study and football together required and he wasn’t sure where he wanted his life to go.
His football career was so uncertain that he had been moved from running back to defensive back during 2006 bowl preparation. That was such a mediocre year for him that he produced only 32 carries for 205 yards and 1 TD, not much better than his 37 carries for 173 yards his freshman year. His per carry average was 6.4 yards as a sophomore though, so there was a faint spark burning there. Could that light a blaze? When he was listed as second team running back following spring practice and saw his grades sinking, he bowed before the pressure.
But in the harsh light of florescent bulbs and stacks of furniture, it wasn’t too long before he figured it out. He would much rather carry footballs than furniture. Returning in 2008 as a junior, it wasn’t long before opposing DCs would have preferred that he made a different decision.
"It wasn't a pleasant feeling. It motivated me," Greene said. "It was something I had to do to get back to school and get back to playing."
The year that Shonn spent at Kirkwood Community College (which doesn’t even have a football team), toiling in the furniture store while working on his academic eligibility lit a fire under the young man. At the same time, without a solid running game the Iowa Hawkeyes finished 92nd in the nation in rushing offense and 94 in passing offense in 2007.Their record fell to a meager 6-6. Still uncertain, Greene even missed spring 2008 practice. Suddenly, both sides needed each other. In the 2008 season they joined forces to make their opponents miserable.
It still wasn’t easy. Iowa opened its 2008 year with a 3-4 record. Iowa's coaches vacillated between quarterbacks Ricky Stanzi and Jake Christensen for 4 games. They eventually went with the spohomore, Stanzi, and decided to chance it with the young quarterback.
The sole bright spot at this point was that Greene had managed to rush for over 100 yards in each game, a feat the continued throughout his season. Iowa would stiffen to win 5 of their last 6 games.
Greene outgained Pittsburgh's LeSean McCoy in that game. He followed it by surpassing Michigan State's Javon Ringer, head-to-head. On Oct. 18, against Wisconsin and PJ Hill, he played a game that put him firmly on the Heisman radar. Greene’s final tally of 217 yards and 4 touchdowns resulted in a 38-16 win. Luke Meredith, an AP Sports writer, described it as,
"…a textbook example of Greene's power, speed and footwork. Green snuck through a pair of holes at the line, juked a defender out of his shoes in the open field, shook off another from behind like he wasn't even there, used a cutback to get past a third and sprinted past a fourth for the score."
Iowa would go on to rank second in the Big Ten with 30.9 points a game for the season. After the game, offensive coordinator Ken O’Keefe laughed,
"We told Shonn before he went out there, 'We're going to run this play, and you're probably going to have to make the last five guys miss.' He said he was fine with that. It was pretty special."
Greene finished his year with a monstrous performance in the Outback Bowl against South Carolina. Prior to the game, South Carolina coach Steve Spurrier said,
"He's gained a whole bunch of yards. We're going to have to get a whole bunch of guys in there to slow him down. If he's not the best running back we've faced, he's one of the best."
It was prophetic. Greene rushed for 121 yards and three touchdowns while helping his Hawkeyes provide South Carolina with a nice, old-fashioned beating of 31-10 in the Outback Bowl. Greene didn’t have that much to say afterwards. In fact, his experiences have left his apparently humbled and self-aware. He has a reputation for rarely saying much. His coaches are quick to take up the slack, though.
O’Keefe noted, "He's big, strong and powerful, and he's faster than you think."
Speaking about Greene’s noted reticence with a microphone, Iowa coach Kirk Ferentz added, "I don’t think that’s his goal...He’s just out there trying to be as good a football player as he can be and help our team, and his attitude has been outstanding. Anyone who has seen him play knows that the numbers speak for themselves."
Speaking of numbers, in 2008 Shonn Greene rushed for 1850 yards on 307 attempts with 20 TDs. That’s not bad for a fellow who only had 69 rushes for 378 yards when the season began. It was a single season record at Iowa and earned Greene the Doak Walker Award.
What are his chances in the draft? Currently, some are projecting him as a low first rounder. Without a masterful showing at the combine, that seems unlikely. Not a lot of teams are looking for their featured rusher this year and Greene has a few things that should make scouts leery. He rarely caught a pass (11 receptions) so his hands are still suspect. His speed isn’t blazing – he’s been timed between 4.48 and 4.67, for a 4.58 average.
On the good side – rarely do you see a rusher with his stats who has such low ‘mileage’. He doesn’t shy away from contact, and rarely goes down on the first hit. He can juke like a dervish or plow ahead like a minesweeper. Given his size and power, some have even suggested him as a FB/H-Back although an H-Back should have established good hands. One blogger noted,
"I also love the way he runs, he's always tough to bring down on the first hit. He's got the perfect body for a RB reminds me of Michael Turner with a little less speed."
Iowa’s scheme didn’t have him blocking much, so we don’t know that side of him as well as teams may prefer. He’ll need a good showing in the combine, but he clearly has the size, the desire and the power to do the job.
But Shonn Greene has one thing going for him that a lot of backs don’t. He’s seen the life away from the limelight, seen life beyond the game of football and it’s filled with boxes, tables and couches, with warehouse lighting and concrete floors. He’s motivated. He’s a powerful young man, more quick than fast, talented but generally quiet and unassuming. For a late 2nd or a third round draft choice, he might be just what someone is looking for.
Shonn Greene is currently listed as the #3 RB by nfldraftreport.com.
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Excellent post
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I don’t want breakaway speed. I want break-some-poor-fool-as-I-bowl-you-over power getting 6 yards off a play that should have been stopped for 2 at most.
by sadaraine on Jan 11, 2009 2:18 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
Nice work Doc!
I have been on the RB bandwagon for some time now. Thanks for shedding some light on a real good one!
Was it hard? "It hurts. But tough times don’t last — tough people do. That’s life." - Mike Shanahan
by Steve O' on Jan 11, 2009 2:42 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
RB? Really?
This is the second scouting report for a RB posted. I agree that the reports are thorough and excellent, but is RB really a top priority for this team? I’d put MLB, DT, DE and safety all ahead of RB, easily.
Assuming the offensive staff remains mostly intact, I would be disappointed if the Broncos spent a first day pick on RB. To me, Hillis, Torain and Alridge should be more than adequate at the TB spot (keeping Pope stashed on the practice squad), with Larsen and hopefully Pittman at FB.
aka MN Bronco
by pubkeeper on Jan 11, 2009 2:47 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
pk -
A disclaimer – As you noticed, I’m not doing these in any order of the Broncos needs. As I’ve mentioned once or twice, I like doing research on the game, specifically on the players. Sometimes the story is interesting – I thought that Greene’s was, so I wrote about it.
We have until later April before the draft and in that time I’ve no doubt that I’ll find players that the Broncos might be interested in, 1st or 2nd day. For that matter, for all I know his lack of known hands may let him drop to the 6th round and we might decide to get him as a FB…at any rate, it’s the story that interested me. JohnnyB and friends have been kind enough to let me find and write those stories. Thanks for your patience.
In Goodman We Trust
by Emmett Smith on Jan 11, 2009 4:22 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
By all means, keep it up!
I love your stories. I think your posts are as good and as informative as any on this site, which is really saying something.
I’ve been enamored with Greene for much of the season. I love his downhill, bruising running style and I think he could be a perfect replacement for Pittmann down the road. But there’s something in the way he runs that I love- it seems to me that on every run, he says, “You’re going to have to kill me if you want to get me down, MFer.” (Stolen from Ali starring Will Smith.) I think that comes from his determination and the fire he lit in himself when he first found himself out of football and directionless. I would be very pleased if we could pick him up in the third or fourth rounds.
"WTF" By Zappa. 1/5/09
I can deal with bears....sharks on the other hand.......of course, I am not talking about if I were menstrual(I’m a guy so that isn’t it), but yeah. I can deal with bears if my arm or something was bleedin’, but sharks? I’ll pass on those. The worst feeling in the world is to be out in the surf and feel something very large brush up against your leg as you were alone waiting for your next wave. I don’t think I’ve gone out past waist deep in the ocean since. lol It was probably just a damn dolphin or something, but yeah. Screw sharks and the evolutionary train they rode in on!
by papigrande on Jan 11, 2009 4:27 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Don't get me wrong...
I appreciate the work and depth of what you’re bringin. I just misunderstood the purpose of your stories. By all means, keep doin what you’re doing.
aka MN Bronco
by pubkeeper on Jan 11, 2009 4:48 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Thanks, and no worries
In Goodman We Trust
by Emmett Smith on Jan 11, 2009 10:06 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
There will definitley be time
to cover a lot more guys. We are heading into a long stretch here where there will be little news from the Broncos, so the front page will have more than enough room for all the prospects we could care to cover.
And we can also think of this as getting some of the less hotly debated prospects lined out early. When guys like Rey and Mays start getting profiled, that could dominate the discussion right up until the draft….
Concision in style, precision in thought, decision in life.
by Jeremy Bolander on Jan 11, 2009 6:20 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
reloading season again.
If this be Hell, let us make the most of it!
by Trinidad Jack on Jan 12, 2009 4:54 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
good for the guy
if nothing else at least we know he wont settle for mediocrity. Good luck to him wherever he ends up.
by uclabruin34 on Jan 11, 2009 6:51 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
Great job with this...
and the other stuff too. And it’s nice to see you FPing now.
"I am not one of those who think that coming in second or third is winning." -- Robert F. Kennedy
by Ted Bartlett on Jan 11, 2009 7:04 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
Another great poat bear, thanks.
I really enjoy the way you are able to paint a personal touch to the stories. Great job.
It all starts in the trenches HT 11/11/08
by firstfan on Jan 11, 2009 7:14 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
I'm an Iowa fan
and they’ve had some solid players go pro in areas of weakness for the Broncos. I wanted them to draft them and they didn’t. Recognize Dallas Clark, Bob Sanders, or Nate Kaeding? I’d be thrilled if we brought in Greene if it came as a mid round pick. We can’t spend ALL the draft picks on defense…
by Poseidon's Fist on Jan 11, 2009 8:18 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
That's true
We can’t spend ALL the draft picks on defense…
I think Colinski posted a link on strategies of drafting that was very helpful. You can get in serious trouble over time by seeing your strengths as fulfilled rather than also seeing the needs you will have in a few years. I’d like to consider another WR, a TE (sooner) some O line depth and a RB or two/three as options as well as the needs on D over the next two to three drafts.
In Goodman We Trust
by Emmett Smith on Jan 11, 2009 10:05 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
AGREED
There are some people here who are going to say ‘what the heck’ when we draft an OL early on (I’m guessing), but even that doesn’t qualify as an upgrade. Waiting till you’re too old at a position is too late. Our problem lately has been that we’re working on a triage basis. We stop the bleeding, and don’t have time for much else.
by Colinski on Jan 11, 2009 10:18 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
THE DRAFT: FOOTBALL 101
Here’s the article on the draft. I give the Packer Chatters credit for a very good article.
by Colinski on Jan 11, 2009 10:28 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Thanks, 'Ski
In Goodman We Trust
by Emmett Smith on Jan 11, 2009 11:21 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I like Greene, but he's gotten too popular
He was a largely unknown star outside the Big Ten when I started writing about him as good possible 4th round one-cut back for us. Now he’s become too rich for our diet (so to speak). I’m getting the impression that we need to find an actual FB if we want a cheap one-cut, and they’re certainly cheap.
by Colinski on Jan 11, 2009 10:23 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
As A Hawkeye
I’d love to have him!
He reminds me some of Mike Anderson, in terms of age, skillset, and running style.
by studbucket on Jan 12, 2009 5:27 AM MST reply actions 0 recs
Good thoughts
I’m getting the impression that we need to find an actual FB if we want a cheap one-cut, and they’re certainly cheap.
Is Pinnock not going to work out, in your view? In either case, competition is good. Who would you like us to look at for FB, any thoughts?
In Goodman We Trust
by Emmett Smith on Jan 12, 2009 10:30 AM MST reply actions 0 recs

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