A new hard hitting safety may have to wait a year.

by Broncoman on Jan 13, 2009 2:57 PM MST Comment 44 comments

ESPN is reporting that Tayloy Mayes (S from USC and fan favorite of the MHR) is returning to school for his senior year, in addition, Myron Rolle (S from FSU) has decided to accept a Rhodes Scholarship and attend Oxford this year and will not enter the draft. What does this mean for Denver, in all likelyhood we will not be drafting a safety with our first pick unless we trade down, and likely means that the 1st pick will be either a DT or my favorite Rey Maualuga MLB from USC as there are no other safeties that probably warrent a top fifteen pick. This may open the option of drafting a safety in the second round such as Patrick Chung out of Oregon or Nic Harris out of Oklahoma; however, I would expect that the defensive line will likely be addressed in the second round (assuming we land Maualuga) with someone like Sen'Derrick Marks out of Auburn or Evander Hood out of Missouri. Unfortunately the free agent safety market is somewhat slim with Dawan Landry probably the best free agent available. On the plus side, we may be able to land both Maualuga this year and Mayes next year, there would be some good building blocks.

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Interesting developments. Thanks for the post!

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by Tim Lynch on Jan 13, 2009 3:14 PM MST reply actions 0 recs

If I see Rolle

I’ll tell him to sign with the Broncos. FWIW.

Blast and botheration.

by Silverblood on Jan 13, 2009 3:15 PM MST reply actions 0 recs

lol Do that will ya?

by Tim Lynch on Jan 13, 2009 3:23 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs

Rolle

I’ll likely be playing on the same team as him next year (Oxford Cavaliers). He emailed Garrett Johnson (FSU Rhodes Scholar at my college) who then forwarded a message to us saying that Myron is interested in playing for us next season. Our defence – by BUAFL (British Universities American Football League) is pretty damn good, so having Myron there is going to be simply mind blowing.

But I can’t wait to meet him, he seems like a genuinely great guy. Also if he joins my college or a grad college I want to see if he wants to play rugby with us :D

by Muse_Cubed on Jan 13, 2009 4:33 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs

Sweet, what postion do you see him at as a rugger!

Wing-forward or a winger.

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by Broncoman on Jan 13, 2009 4:38 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs

Hey Muse

Do you have any of those games coming up? I could do with some football/meeting a fellow MHR’er. Or is the season over already?

Blast and botheration.

by Silverblood on Jan 13, 2009 4:43 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs

Wing Forward?

You mean flanker? I don’t know, a big part of being a flanker is being experienced, doing the dirty work and doing as much illegal stuff as you can without getting caught. I’d either put him at fullback, wing or outside centre. But we have an amazing fullback already (who’s 5’7, smokes on the field, can outrun almost anyone and never misses a 1-on-1 tackle). I think he’d be a handy outside centre – he’s got great size, speed and can tackle.

To Silverblood: I’m not sure when our next home game is. The other problem is that it’s on Harcourt Hill which is about 3 miles out of Oxford. But you can get a bus there…just make sure you wrap up warmly – it’s got its own microclimate so it’s always raining and very cold. I’m very happy to have invested in a handwarmer :D

by Muse_Cubed on Jan 13, 2009 4:56 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs

Okay

Do you happen to remember which bus goes to Harcourt? And let me know when you have one coming up, I’m definitely interested.

Blast and botheration.

by Silverblood on Jan 13, 2009 5:01 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs

U1

If you go past the Westgate centre, there are a bunch of bus stops (buses go away from the centre of town). You’ll be able to catch it there. But I’ll let you know when our next home game is.

by Muse_Cubed on Jan 13, 2009 5:05 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs

Great

Email’s in my profile.

Blast and botheration.

by Silverblood on Jan 13, 2009 5:07 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs

Yes flanker, we called it wing forward in college

Might be an amazing fullback or outside center, been many a year since I played though.

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by Broncoman on Jan 13, 2009 5:19 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs

Good...maybe we'll actually focus on D-line now.

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by PosterNutbag on Jan 13, 2009 3:25 PM MST reply actions 0 recs

4-3 or 3-4...

we need some serious D-line help.

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by PosterNutbag on Jan 13, 2009 3:25 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs

The more I think about...

the more I realize that our horrific D-line is the primary reason we sucked so badly last year. When Doom is your best player? That guy had a absolutely horrible season. Nothing is going to get better until our D-line gets better. No point on spending the big dollars at CB, S, LB if your D-line sucks.

We all knew that at the start of the season, but we got tired of talking about it so the discussion switched to LB and the DBs. It’s time for us to remember where we need the most help.

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by PosterNutbag on Jan 13, 2009 3:30 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs

I agree the D-line needs a lot of work

The problem with the draft is that D-linemen and WR seem to be the riskist picks in the 1st round with the highest percentage of flame outs, maybe we look to free agency to build the front 4 or 3 and the draft to the back 7 or 8

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by Broncoman on Jan 13, 2009 3:54 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs

I think you had the best idea above

when you suggested MLB first round and D-line 2nd round. Add in another D-lineman in the third or fourth, pick up Peppers, Suggs or Haynesworth in free agency. I vote Maualuga.

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by 53guys on Jan 13, 2009 4:18 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs

I know he's old, but...

I thought Brian Dawkins of Eagles fame was a FA this year, too. He could be a John Lynch type signing and a good mentor for Barrett.

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by pubkeeper on Jan 13, 2009 4:02 PM MST reply actions 0 recs

Dawkins is a great player, I don't see him leaving Philly though, he is too valuable to that Defense

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by Broncoman on Jan 13, 2009 4:30 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs

Theyll get him on a 3-5 dollar deal.

Yes, I'm a Diamondback and Suns fan. So you may be wondering, "Why does this fool like the Broncos so much?"

A: The Cardinals are too hard of a pill to swallow. Oh yeah and that Elway dude....

by Elway4Prez on Jan 13, 2009 5:11 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs

The third game into the season the fans TV and sports talk radio was giving him a hard time

they said that he had to go that he lost a step stuff like that . I guess he proved a lot of people wrong
But one thing is true he is at the end of his career and not worth shelling out a lot of $$$$$ for

by broncosfaninphilly on Jan 13, 2009 8:10 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs

If were switching to 3-4 I'd like a nose-tackle with our first. It's the first piece to the puzzle...

Then instead of getting Haynesworth we get Suggs. I could handle that :)

Yes, I'm a Diamondback and Suns fan. So you may be wondering, "Why does this fool like the Broncos so much?"

A: The Cardinals are too hard of a pill to swallow. Oh yeah and that Elway dude....

by Elway4Prez on Jan 13, 2009 5:12 PM MST reply actions 0 recs

Well then it's already down to three choices and you won't like one of them

1. Draft Mauluga
2. Draft Moreno or Wells
3. Trade down

Sorry but there isn’t a DT worth the 12th pick. Initially going in with Mauluga or Mays you couldn’t go wrong. Now if one is gone and the needs we have we should definetely definetely trade down.

We could get Cushing and BJ Raji and grab maybe an extra third or second. Last year Phili fleeced the Panthers for their first round pick. 3 for 1.

Philadelphia traded the 19th overall pick in the draft to the Carolina Panthers for the 12th pick in the second round (No. 43 overall), the 10th pick in the fourth round (No. 109 overall) and a first-round pick in 2009.

So at 12 we could realistically trade into the end of the first or beginning of the second round and nab multiple players who can help us.

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by Steve O' on Jan 13, 2009 5:59 PM MST reply actions 0 recs

Disagree

While you present an enticing option (10 picks, wow!), I hope the Broncos pick up Mauluga in the first. I don’t think we will be picking at 12 again anytime soon, at least I wouldn’t depend on it. We already have nine picks, so let’s use the highest pick we have to draft the best defensive player available.

by 53guys on Jan 13, 2009 7:21 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs

My point 53 is what if Mauluga is gone? Now that Mays isn't in the draft he is the only need worthy

That’s why I said initially going in I thought at 12 you go for Mays or Rey…but now if Rey is gone who do you take? The best DT isn’t worth it and the only safety maybe is William Moore…you could trade down and get Cushing and Raji…sounds better to me than taking a flier and reach on a prospect you are trying to make worth it.

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by Steve O' on Jan 13, 2009 8:53 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs

I agree 100%...

I felt pretty secure in getting either one with the #12, and figured that Mays had a better chance of being there than Rey. I know it’s all speculation at this point, but I just have a bad feeling that Rey will be gone by the time we are on the clock. As much as I like Rey, I think it would be a horrible idea to move up to get him and sacrifice more draft picks. So if there isn’t anyone else that warrants a #12, we have to consider moving down to pick the next position of need, and get a player that warrants the pick we are about to spend. Maybe move down 5 – 7 spots, pick up a 3rd round pick and hope for Raji, Moore, or Laurinitis? Out of the first round completely and pick up an extra 1st next year plus a 3rd or 4th this year? This sucks, I so wanted to have to decide between Mays or Maualuga in April.

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by donbok1 on Jan 13, 2009 9:35 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs

Rey is not good enough to chase after

very good, but if you can’t get him at #12, that is just how it is…

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by Jeremy Bolander on Jan 13, 2009 10:09 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs

Donbok,

you can trade down and with all those picks as soon as you know your guy is going, and you know because the pick is shopped, trade back up and nab him if it’s worth it…I could see a scenario where Denver moves into the second round and takes the same first round strategyy as before but for less money.

You take Chung – (cheap version of Mays, maybe just as good)
You get Cushing – (Maybe a better fit for the 3-4 than Rey anyway who looks like a pure MLB in a 4-3)
Then from there you have options.

by Steve O' on Jan 13, 2009 10:10 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs

I completely agree if Ray is gone

Otherwise, I think we would absolutely have to draft him if he is there.

by 53guys on Jan 14, 2009 8:20 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs

I agree, if Rey is gone then I would look to trade back a ways and get Raji

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by Broncoman on Jan 14, 2009 12:05 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs

I agree, No DT in the draft is worth the 12th overall pick

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by Broncoman on Jan 14, 2009 12:04 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs

What if Cody from Alabama

leaves school early?

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by DesertBroncoFan on Jan 15, 2009 10:15 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs

at this point

he would have to change his mind. He sounded pretty sure that he was staying…

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by Jeremy Bolander on Jan 15, 2009 12:45 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs

hadn't heard that

I guess we’ll find out at 5 Eastern?

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by DesertBroncoFan on Jan 15, 2009 1:50 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs

Gerald McCoy was probably on the ONLY DT worth a look @ #12. But....how could anyone not want to start w/Maualuga?

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by Hogblog on Jan 13, 2009 6:36 PM MST reply actions 0 recs

I hope he is there at 12

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by Steve O' on Jan 13, 2009 6:59 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs

Why not Sean Jones from the Browns?

by Wasatch on Jan 13, 2009 7:20 PM MST reply actions 0 recs

Another Brownco?

by 53guys on Jan 13, 2009 7:22 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs

What does MHR think about Brian Orakpo?

He looked good this year. Don’t know if his skills will translate to the next level though.

by 53guys on Jan 13, 2009 7:24 PM MST reply actions 0 recs

He's slotted to go very early.

But I ask the same questions: Is he a sure enough thing to be worth trading up for? He was pretty dominant in the games I watched him in, but I’m not an expert on D-linemen so I’m not sure about how he translates to the next level either.

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by papigrande on Jan 13, 2009 8:16 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs

Heart breaking...

Now what am I going to do with my custom made Mays jersey? Crap crap crap!!!

Well, the draft just got a whole lot more interesting… Mays had to have been targeted by many teams in the draft, some ahead of us (SF, Oakland, Cincy) and many behind us. Maualuga seems like he should fall to us at 12, but there’s no guarantee. If he’s there, we draft him (period). I love B.J. Raji, but not at 12 and would be happy with William Moore, but again, not at 12.

Who can we blame for this travesty? god i hate USC!

I wish Woody Paige was our coach!

by bcfunk on Jan 13, 2009 8:47 PM MST reply actions 0 recs

There's no DT worthy of #12 pick. 3rd round is probably a good place to pick a DT like Ron Brace.

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by Hogblog on Jan 13, 2009 8:53 PM MST reply actions 0 recs

agreed

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by Steve O' on Jan 13, 2009 8:54 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs

Safety

I was looking at the crop after the news on Mays and Rolle and it’s surprising how quickly the group went downhill. The juniors usually come in late and ‘make’ the crop but this year it’s the opposite effect.

It’s hardly bleak, but it doesn’t look as good for finding a Safety in the early going (other than William Moore, who’s dropped some and might be a slight stretch at #12).

There are some SSs — Patrick Chung, Sean Smith, Emanual Cook, Nic Harris, Michael Hamlin, Courtney Greene, Chip Vaughn, and Otis Wiley, etc., and a FS could be in the offing instead.

I’d be happy to see us pick up a FS such as Rashad Johnson, Louis Delmas, Derek Pegues, David Bruton, Sherrod Martin, Brandon Underwood, or some others. I’ll see who’s available after the deadline tomorrow (15th).

It’s not as if there aren’t any “hard-hitting” types in the Safeties I’ve mentioned. And there’s nothing wrong with going another route with our 1st, and there are good choices, too. I’ve become a little disenchanted with the idea of taking a Safety at #1 — actually. Mays or Moore still looked somewhat good (until Mays dropped out of the running), but the odds of our picking a Safety at #1 haven’t been that strong for a while.

The story is that we rose in the draft order at the end of the season. We’d be happy if Moore was available if we were still drafting in the upper teens to twenty range but that’s all changed now. Our choice probably now consists of any of the best defensive prospects except for Aaron Curry, the top DEs (Everette Brown or Brian Orakpo) and Malcolm Jenkins.

I’m still looking for a Safety pick around the 3-4. There are some who will go higher but I think one or two Safeties is still a strong possibility. We’ll find one, the question is whether two worthwhile picks will come our way.

We now have our choice of the top MLB. And we weren’t going to be able to address S, MLB & the DL early enough to find likely starters at all three (or four) areas anyways.

by Colinski on Jan 13, 2009 11:08 PM MST reply actions 0 recs

More Safeties

Unless someone changes their mind by tomorrow, this year is going to be a little disappointing. Next year is going to be very deep as a result of the amount of juniors opting to stay in school, and that’s without considering any players who aren’t currently on the horizon.

There are some names that names that I wanted to add to my post immediately above.

Curtis Taylor, FS, LSU

C.J. Spillman, FS, Marshall

Darcel McBath, FS, Texas Tech

There’s some others who hold promise but I will limit it to those 3 additions.

by Colinski on Jan 14, 2009 5:05 PM MST reply actions 0 recs