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The Broncos Coaching Search -- Day 1

In what is likely to become a daily feature hear at MileHighReport, here is the latest on the Broncos search for a new Head Coach, their first such search in a very, very long time(16 years by my count since Mike Shanahan was the #1 candidate all along when he was hired in 1995).

Today we'll look at who the Broncos have reached out to so far.  If you want a really in depth look at the candidates, check out Boydy2669's FanPost.

Giants DC Steve Spagnuolo -- Easily the hottest first time coaching prospect, Spags has interest from every team looking to fill a Head Coaching position, from Cleveland, to the Jets to the Lions.  With a Sunday deadline to get him interviewed I see it as a positive sign that both the Broncos and Spags have adjusted their schedules accordingly to get an interview done.

My Take:  Spags would be my #1 choice.  He is defensive minded, has a Super Bowl ring, and knows how to get pressure on the quarterback.  Not only was he effective in coaching big name talent like Micael Strahan, he also got the most out of relative unknowns like Justin Tuck.  Add to that his experience, both with the Giants and in Philadelphia under Jim Johnson and Spags has the experience to make the jump.  Oh, and I LOVE his pressure scheme.  All pressure, all the time.  He nearly became the HC in Wasshington last season but decided to return to the Giants, one reason being the inconsistentcy of the Redskins offense.  In Denver, the offense is in place. 

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Buccaneers DC Raheem Morris -- Morris was just promoted to the job of Defensive Coordinator in Tamps after taking over for the departed Monte Kiffin.  Morris seems to be an up and comer in coaching circles and couold possibly take the same route Mie Tomlin of the Steelers followed on his rapid ascention to a Head Coaching job.  Tomlin did have 1 year as a coordinator, however, something Morris has yet to have.  He is an intriguing candidate, however, becuase the word on the street is he is a strong personality in the locker room, someone players gravitate towards.  Couple that with the experience he gained under one of the best coordinators in the game and he seems to have the pedigree.

My Take:  Morris is going to get an interview, and I think the Broncos are serious in him as a candidate.  I think he needs one more year of seasoning, however, and the Broncos will eventually pass. 

Patriots OC Josh McDaniels -- The Broncos will interview McDaniels on the same trip out East thy use to talk to Spagnuolo.  McDaniels is the hot name when it comes to offensive minded coaches.  Many people think McDaniels will be some kind of package deal with Scott Pioli, but a job like Denver's doesn't come around very often, once every decade or so.  With Jay Cutler and a dominating offense in place, McDaniels would have to be tempted should the Broncos offer the job to him.

My Take:  While there is little doubting McDaniels abilities, the Broncos have a young, up-and-coming offensive mind of their own in Jeremy Bates.  Add that to the fact that the defense needs a complete overhaul, and it seems Denver just isn't a match for a first-time, offensively minded coordinator like McDaniels.  A much better fit in Cleveland or Kansas City where the offense is the bigger issue.

Oklahoma HC Bob Stoops -- Every year a couple of college coaches get mentioned in terms of pro job openings.  Stoops, along with Pete Carroll and Kirk Ferentz, get mentioned every year and this year is no exception.  Pat Bowlen is an Oklahoma guy, and Stoops and his staff frequently came down to Denver's training camp to take in the workouts.  If Stoops were ever going to take the jump now would be a good time, with Oklahoma playing for a National Championship and a job like Denver's available.

My Take:  No thanks.  Every year it looks to me like Stoops is more of a college lifer.  There is little doubting his ability, on teh college level.  Too many college coaches have failed for me to feel comfortable with Stoops or any other college coach. 

Those are the names that have officially been linked to the Broncos Wish-List.  Other names just to keep your eyes and ears on -- Jim Fassel, Vikings DC Leslie Frazier, Bill Cowher, Broncos QB Coach Jeremy Bates

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Thanks Guru!

I look forward to following the search on MHR. One question about Spags: does the fact that he’s the only leading candidate working for a team that’s still playing work against him in any way?

"You're slow. You're not a running back, and you're not a running back for a reason." ---a former mastermind head coach....

by Broncs Cheer on Jan 2, 2009 10:04 AM MST reply actions   0 recs

I don't like spags

I really wan’t a coach with a proven record, and not many of these fit that bill.

If it has to be a coordinator I want a guy who has succeeded in charge of a succesfull unit in A more than one place or B in a long time. Again not many has that attribute. Being an assistant under a HOF-coordinator doesn’t count.

I hate college coaches.. In my limited time as a football fan, i can’t remember many who’s succeeded in the NFL.

A defensive guy is number one, if he can keep his hands of a great unit, and let Bates run that show!

Cowher fits all criterias – he’s THE guy, and the obvious choice…

Random quotes about the raiders:
They really shouldn’t play — Chris Collinsworth (12/5/08)
This is an utter disaster — Chris Collinsworth (12/5/08)
/The great Dane - formerly known as Claaaaas!

by Claus Vestergaard on Jan 2, 2009 10:05 AM MST reply actions   0 recs

I AGREE

I gree with you on the time Spagnuolo has put in or the lack thereof, and I don’t like the idea of hireing a Collage Coach.
But I disaree with you on letting Bates run the show, he’s part of the reason the Broncos failed Shanahan. His spread O sucks.
I would prefer an established Coach.

Tactics without Strategy is the noise you hear before Defeat!

by monodono on Jan 2, 2009 10:23 AM MST up reply actions   0 recs

I was trying to remember the last college coach to be successful in the NFL

And I ended up with Jimmie Johnson. I have to be missing someone.

I don’t think Cowher is gonna coach this year. Which leaves two candidates that meet your criteria – Jim Johnson of the Eagles or Jim Schwartz of the Titans. There are other successful defensive coordinators out there (like Dick LeBeau or Gunther Cunningham), but they have shown that they are not head coach material.

For me, the most important thing is to find a coach that can recruit and teach young coaches under him. It is kinda paradoxal, but I want other teams to be trying to poach Denver’s coordinators and assistants. Off the top of my head I can think of only three coaches under Shanahan who went on to higher positions elsewhere – Kubiak, Heimerdinger and Karl Dorrell. (again, I am probably missing someone)

by MattR on Jan 2, 2009 10:31 AM MST up reply actions   0 recs

BILLICK

Where is Coach Billick on your list?

Tactics without Strategy is the noise you hear before Defeat!

by monodono on Jan 2, 2009 10:35 AM MST up reply actions   0 recs

AGREED

and I think He would bring in a good DC

Tactics without Strategy is the noise you hear before Defeat!

by monodono on Jan 2, 2009 10:48 AM MST up reply actions   0 recs

A good point

And probably a strike against Raheem Morris that he does not have the same network to utilize when forming a staff, especially since TB is not gonna let him take anyone with him if he does leave.

by MattR on Jan 2, 2009 10:58 AM MST up reply actions   0 recs

actually

Coyer and TB are “mutually” parting ways, and the LB coach and TE coach’s contracts are up, so it’s possible TB is clearing house a bit

by poorboywilly on Jan 2, 2009 11:46 AM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Billick was O-Coordinator of the Vikings

"I am not one of those who think that coming in second or third is winning." -- Robert F. Kennedy

by Ted Bartlett on Jan 2, 2009 11:30 AM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Billick? Are you kidding?

He never did produce an offense at Baltimore. He’s terrible.

Anyone looking for a sign will find one. JB Freeman

by bradley on Jan 2, 2009 12:30 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Gag, Billick?

That guy had some of the worst offenses in pro football when he was at Baltimore, I don’t want him anywhere near Denver for fear he turns Jay Cutler into Elvis Grback, shudder.

"Me fail english, that unpossible" - Ralph Wiggum
"Duffman is thrusting in the direction of the problem" - Duffman

by Broncoman on Jan 2, 2009 1:54 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Did a pretty good job...

with Randle Cunningham in Minnesota though. I think Billick is the dark horse here. Most of the good head coaches, certainly Bellincheck & Shanahan, had unsuccessful HC stints before the got it together.

by SlowWhiteGuy on Jan 2, 2009 3:38 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

That was like a thousand years ago

Randle Cunningham??

Anyone looking for a sign will find one. JB Freeman
All signs fail in time of drought. James M. Green

by bradley on Jan 2, 2009 5:21 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Tom Coughlin

With the caveat that he had extensive NFL experience as well.

by Snaggins on Jan 2, 2009 10:40 AM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Brian Billick

though he did pass through Minnesota. Also Denny Green & Barry Switzer; before that Chuck Fairbanks & Bum Philips come to mind.

by SlowWhiteGuy on Jan 2, 2009 3:35 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

I'd like to know more about Jim Schwartz.

I think he could be the guy, but I don’t really know that much about him, and Wikipedia isn’t that helpful. That said, out of the choices you present, I like Spagnuolo the best. He sounds like a mobster.

In Bowlen we trust. Find someone special.

by papigrande on Jan 2, 2009 10:17 AM MST reply actions   0 recs

Is Schwartz out?

I like Schwartz, but I wonder if the fact that no interview has been set up before Sunday implies that he may not be a candidate, since the Broncos couldn’t then interview him for a while. Guru, do you think he’s out? For more info on him, check out this NYT article – it describes his use of advanced football statistics. Legwold said that Schwartz and Bates have known each other for some time and have worked together in Tennessee.

by Snaggins on Jan 2, 2009 10:35 AM MST up reply actions   0 recs

"It was Schwartz, ....Shawartz was getting his, BB gun mania knows no loyality"- Ralphie a Christmas Story

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TNQFrxgRhtg

Clip contain vulgarities, so be warned.

"Me fail english, that unpossible" - Ralph Wiggum
"Duffman is thrusting in the direction of the problem" - Duffman

by Broncoman on Jan 2, 2009 2:01 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

If Fassel even gets an interview...

I will shoot myself.

No thanks. Not ever. Let him go coach the Raiders, apparently that his dream job. Plus he has so much respect for Alfred Davis.

by CalgaryFan on Jan 2, 2009 10:18 AM MST reply actions   0 recs

NO DOUBT!

Tactics without Strategy is the noise you hear before Defeat!

by monodono on Jan 2, 2009 10:24 AM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Jason Garrett

Denver Post is reporting that the Broncos have asked Dallas for permission to talk to OC Jason Garrett.

To bear up under loss, to fight the bitterness of defeat and the weakness of grief, to be victor over anger, to smile when tears are close, to resist evil men and base instincts, to hate evil and to love love, to go on when it would seem good to die, to seek after the glory and the dream, to look up with unquenchable faith in something evermore about to be, that is what any man can do, and so be great.

Zane Grey

by bradley on Jan 2, 2009 10:38 AM MST reply actions   0 recs

He's no good IMO

It was the offense that broke the Dallas’ back this year. He seems dependend on healthy, agreeing talent – and with what good is an OC?

McDaniels is very similar. He has a huge advatage of record, though. If you can put a HS QB in there and still have a top half offense, you must be doing something right… Moss or no Moss…

Random quotes about the raiders:
They really shouldn’t play — Chris Collinsworth (12/5/08)
This is an utter disaster — Chris Collinsworth (12/5/08)
/The great Dane - formerly known as Claaaaas!

by Claus Vestergaard on Jan 2, 2009 11:03 AM MST up reply actions   0 recs

I have been pushing for a defensive mind for HC

And that is still my preference, but I am not opposed to an offensive coach coming in as long as there is a good DC brought in too, maybe Romeo Crennel?

by MattR on Jan 2, 2009 11:13 AM MST up reply actions   0 recs

I'm wary of Crennel as DC

His defenses in Cleveland were nothing to write home about (he’d probably still be coach if they were). How many 10+ point 4th quarter collapses did they have this year? Yeah, he was a good DC for the Pats, but how much of that was due to Belichick?

Owning the Patriots since September 9, 1960

by Darin H on Jan 2, 2009 11:21 AM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Cover 2

Any thoughts on how our current defensive personnel would fit in Morris’ Cover 2 scheme? Seems like we wouldn’t want to waste Champ’s cover skills and we don’t have a Mike to send down the pipe.

by NTSBusMan on Jan 2, 2009 11:56 AM MST reply actions   0 recs

Actually Champ does best in zone...

and he prefers to play in zone coverage. It allows him to read the QB, like he likes to do. DJ Williams and Wesley Woodyard are good fits for a Tampa-2 scheme too, and Elvis Dumervil is a good pass rusher for it. What we currently lack are 4 up-the-middle pieces. You need a NT, a 3-technique DT, a very mobile MLB who can get to and cover a deep 3rd, and an effective box safety who is fast enough to get into the box when he reads run (think Bob Sanders.) John Lynch was Tampa’s box safety for years, but they released him when his speed declined.

Note that I mentioned a NT. The 2 scheme usually plays a 0- or 1-technique NT and a 3-technique DT, rather than most 4-3 schemes which use twin 2-techniques. Think about how Pat and Kevin Williams are used in Minnesota, and you’ll get the idea.

"I am not one of those who think that coming in second or third is winning." -- Robert F. Kennedy

by Ted Bartlett on Jan 2, 2009 12:27 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Nice points

So we’d need a undertackle like Warren Sapp and a big space eater at NT?

Maybe our current defensive personnel shouldn’t influence my wants at HC, but I’m much more excited about a blitzing 4-3 that I believe we are more compatible with than becoming another Cover 2 clone.

by NTSBusMan on Jan 2, 2009 1:17 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

The better personnel we currently have can go fine in either style

I favor Cover-2 because the player types are generally easier to find and cheaper. The Spagnuolo style can also work with our better guys too.

"I am not one of those who think that coming in second or third is winning." -- Robert F. Kennedy

by Ted Bartlett on Jan 2, 2009 5:40 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Who cares!

We don’t have enough talent in our current personnel to matter. If we scrapped everyone on defense in order to implement a new system we just wouldn’t be that much worse off. That’s not a knock on Champ, just the sorry state of the entire defense. It’s not like the offense where we have a system that works and players suited to that system. On defense we have no system and a motley collection of cast-offs and bad FA moves with a few gems hidden in the manure pile. So what if we scrapped the whole mess and started over from scratch.

by SlowWhiteGuy on Jan 2, 2009 3:56 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

I disagree with you, and I think you're not seeing the forest through the trees

Elvis Dumervil, Champ Bailey, Wesley Woodyard, DJ Williams, Marcus Thomas, and Josh Barrett are all guys who can definitely contribute to a good defense. Jarvis Moss and Tim Crowder may eventually be also, particularly in a different scheme.

The existing defense is awful, but there are players who can be strong parts of a good defense also.

"I am not one of those who think that coming in second or third is winning." -- Robert F. Kennedy

by Ted Bartlett on Jan 2, 2009 5:38 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Not Cover 2 - Tampa 2

Jim Goodman for Broncos GM!

by Emmett Smith on Jan 2, 2009 10:42 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Jim Schwartz

Spagnola and his wife are east coast people and most likely will want to stay there. Jeff Fisher says that Schwartz is ready to be a head coach. Fisher is a great coach and his recommendation should count for a lot. Morris will need two good coordinators to make the jump. Rod Marinelli would be a great DC choice. Bates would work at OC for Cutler and continuity.

Orangeman

by corangemanr on Jan 2, 2009 12:05 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

What about Rex Ryan???

Not much talk on him but that Baltimore D is nuts!!!!!

by FLCubsGirl on Jan 2, 2009 3:00 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

Jim Bates

One thing that we have all overlooked is promoting from within. The possibility of promoting Jim Bates is one option that no one has really addressed but is as likely, if not more likely, than any of the other big name moves.

There is no 'Ctrl' button on Chuck Norris's computer. Chuck Norris is always in control.
Chuck Norris destoryed the periodic table because he only recognizes the element of surprise.

by nickt84 on Jan 2, 2009 6:15 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

Promoting from within...

when I first read of this I thought the poster was nuts. Then I remembered an odd comment PB made in the presser, “Mike still wants to coach.”

What the hell could that have to do with the decision to let Shanny go, unless one of the options was to promote someone from inside the org to HC. But if that’s the case my money is on Rick Dennison. He doesn’t get much PR but he is probably the smartest guy in football, not just football smart, but smart, smart (he has a masters in engineering).

Dennison was a linebacker, excellent ST player and seems to have mastered the intricacies of zone-blocking. Pretty amazing when you realize he wasn’t an offensive player.

by SlowWhiteGuy on Jan 2, 2009 8:10 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

ALEX GIBBS

He was mentored by Alex Gibbs the inovator of the zone blocking scheme.

Tactics without Strategy is the noise you hear before Defeat!

by monodono on Jan 3, 2009 1:44 AM MST up reply actions   0 recs

The Great years

That was when The Broncos ran a controlled offensive scheme w/ TD up the middle, TD sweep left, pass to Rod for 15, then play action pass to Sharp TOUCHDOWN ! ! ! The Broncos fan’s go wild…… excuse me I lost myself there. Control the Ball, Control the clock, Control the game!

Tactics without Strategy is the noise you hear before Defeat!

by monodono on Jan 3, 2009 1:57 AM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Two from outside and two from inside

Spags as HC. He’ll bring in his DC. Dennison as OC and Jim Goodman as VP/GM. Bates will stay in Cutler’s earpiece. My two cents.

by BroncoConvert on Jan 2, 2009 9:46 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

BATES CAN STAY

I dont mind Bates in Jay’s ear piece just dont call the play’s leave that to Dennison.

Tactics without Strategy is the noise you hear before Defeat!

by monodono on Jan 3, 2009 1:47 AM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Thanks Guru.

As pissed as I am for having Shanahan fired, like you said on your show, I am a little excited to see what pans out for us in the coaching process. Seeing what the Giants have done since the beginning of last season, I am leaning toward Spagnuolo. Regardless of who we get I really want a HC with a defensive mind because that is our BIG weakness and has been over the past several years.

"It doesn't dissipate" ~ Mike Shanahan

Cutler's 4th qtr/OT game winning drives: 9

by weazel on Jan 3, 2009 12:12 AM MST reply actions   0 recs

yes, spags

he is the anti-slowick/bates that we need. defense, and power running is all we lack. bring him to me.

hear me, perpetrators of bread crime, your punishment is at hand.
taste my blintzkrieg!
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by davecheffy on Jan 3, 2009 9:24 AM MST reply actions   0 recs

Spag's DC??

Read somewhere one of the Eagles defensive coaches, Shaun ???, and Spags have history together and are close. If hired, he could bring him in as DC. Anyone know who that is and particulars.

by BroncoConvert on Jan 3, 2009 10:02 AM MST reply actions   0 recs

no

but i am more interested in the dc position than hc or gm right now. unless we get a hands-on hc that runs the d on gameday, hopefully spags. also, the offensive assistants have been told to leave the facility, and they would be considered by the new hc. likely? this is not good. a new offense in addition to a new hc, dc!, gm… would set us back another year or two. something noone wants.

hear me, perpetrators of bread crime, your punishment is at hand.
taste my blintzkrieg!
all i want for xmas is blitzen.

by davecheffy on Jan 3, 2009 10:31 AM MST reply actions   0 recs

I found it

Eagles Secondary coach- Sean McDermott
Now all I have to do is find the post about Spags’ and his relationship.

by BroncoConvert on Jan 4, 2009 12:15 AM MST reply actions   0 recs

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