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Louis Delmas

 

Western Michigan University Broncos 7, Temple University 3Delmas
Louis Delmas
5'11"  196 lbs.
Western Michigan  FS

While I consider myself to watch as much college football as most fans, I must admit I didn't catch any Western Michigan games this year.  Typically this fact wouldn't bother me much, but after learning about Louis Delmas, I wish I had paid more attention to the team.  He's been drawing a lot of attention to himself at the Senior Bowl practices, and most scouts are naming him and Chung the best safeties on the field.  SI had this so say about Delmas:


Louis Delmas/S/Western Michigan: Delmas has been the best safety on the field and the feisty defender consistently put himself in a position to make plays on the ball all day. He throws his body around the field in an effort to stop ball handlers and delivered a number of blows that made scouts take notice. Delmas was effective in run defense and against the pass.

 Although a little on the light side, Delmas is said to have the frame to add 20 - 30 pounds, without sacrificing much speed.  His forty time is said to be 4.5, and scouts say he plays even faster on the field.  New Era Scouting calls him an outspoken leader, with rock-solid character, never tires and is relentless on plays.  They go on to say that his coverage skills are that of a corner back, and call him a play maker in every sense of the word.  New Era's link to him is here.

CMU's Bryan Anderson brought down by WMU defense

Delmas has an incredible story, and the more I learn about him, the more I like him.  I think he would fit in great with the "high character" movement going on at Dove Valley.  Please read the story on him in this link, it is worth your time.  Here.  Any more information on Mr. Delmas would be appreciated, and as always, so is your opinion. 

 A hard loss

 

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How would you feel about the Broncos using a draft pick on Delmas?
He sounds like a great prospect, let's get him
68 votes
I'm not impressed by the small school player, draft someone else
4 votes
Not impressed by this year's safety class, get a free agent
3 votes

75 votes | Poll has closed

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Troy Polamalu?

His style of play sounds familiar.

From there, I'd like to say that the wheels came off, but that wouldn't feel like an accurate description. The wheels didn't just magically come off, the Raiders all got out of the car, shot the wheels off the own car, busted out the taillights, smashed the windshield and poured Splenda in the gas tank. Then they all piled back inside and started screaming, "CAR WON'T MOVE, ME SAD NOW!" - MJD Yahoo Sports

by donbok1 on Jan 23, 2009 1:18 AM MST reply actions  

Off topic...

Haven’t seen Mike Clark around here for a while. Anyone heard from him? I miss his optimism.

From there, I'd like to say that the wheels came off, but that wouldn't feel like an accurate description. The wheels didn't just magically come off, the Raiders all got out of the car, shot the wheels off the own car, busted out the taillights, smashed the windshield and poured Splenda in the gas tank. Then they all piled back inside and started screaming, "CAR WON'T MOVE, ME SAD NOW!" - MJD Yahoo Sports

by donbok1 on Jan 23, 2009 1:25 AM MST reply actions  

Mermaid is still here

Switched his name to PosterNutBag.

Zappa’s probably on vacation…he is usually only posting when he is working.

I don’t want breakaway speed. I want break-some-poor-fool-as-I-bowl-you-over power getting 6 yards off a play that should have been stopped for 2 at most.

by sadaraine on Jan 23, 2009 9:06 AM MST up reply actions  

Mike's been lurking.

He’s recommended some stuff, voted in a few polls… Mike, come back!! We need your optimism!

私の署名はちょうど任意風変わりな言葉および日本の特性である。
-My signature exactly is optional queer word and the Japanese quality.

by papigrande on Jan 23, 2009 6:53 PM MST up reply actions  

No I am not a stalker.

Just good at searching. :)

私の署名はちょうど任意風変わりな言葉および日本の特性である。
-My signature exactly is optional queer word and the Japanese quality.

by papigrande on Jan 23, 2009 6:54 PM MST up reply actions  

I see...

maybe he finally ran out of optimism when Shanny got fired, and broke his keyboard in a fit of rage, now he can only vote and recommend with his mouse.?

From there, I'd like to say that the wheels came off, but that wouldn't feel like an accurate description. The wheels didn't just magically come off, the Raiders all got out of the car, shot the wheels off the own car, busted out the taillights, smashed the windshield and poured Splenda in the gas tank. Then they all piled back inside and started screaming, "CAR WON'T MOVE, ME SAD NOW!" - MJD Yahoo Sports

by donbok1 on Jan 23, 2009 8:06 PM MST up reply actions  

lol

This is my GAP, there are many like it but this one is mine. Without my GAP I am useless, without me, they will run through my GAP. I will protect my GAP and have my brothers back on his. I will not be moved from my GAP, I am a crazed dog that patrols this area and will defeat all who entire it. I own this GAP, it is mine. I bought it with blood and sweat. I will not be pushed. I will not be moved. This Sunday I will make a stand and a statement.

by Tim Lynch on Jan 25, 2009 12:22 PM MST up reply actions  

Mermaid = PNB?

That makes alot of sense. You’re the man PNB.

From there, I'd like to say that the wheels came off, but that wouldn't feel like an accurate description. The wheels didn't just magically come off, the Raiders all got out of the car, shot the wheels off the own car, busted out the taillights, smashed the windshield and poured Splenda in the gas tank. Then they all piled back inside and started screaming, "CAR WON'T MOVE, ME SAD NOW!" - MJD Yahoo Sports

by donbok1 on Jan 23, 2009 8:08 PM MST up reply actions  

Zappa is in mourning again

First time was for missing playoffs, this time for Shanny being fired

Thanks to Mike Shanahan, a great coach who will be dearly missed. But...
Let's all get on the Mac Daddy Express!
Hillis for starter next year. He wears special thigh pads so his solid brass balls don't give him repeated thigh contusions.

by 53guys on Jan 24, 2009 7:06 AM MST up reply actions  

Hey, I'm still here!

I was on vacation though. lol I’m working on something right now to kick off my own reloading season posts…just a lot going on in RL. My wife had foot surgery and I have been having to do everything around the house and help her with anything and everything. I also found out my dad will need bypass heart surgery in two weeks….ect ect. Plus I went out of town for about two weeks after Christmas. ;-) I am here though….just not a lot of time to contribute. lol

Besides, us optimistic guys tend to take the end of the season pretty hard……

This is my GAP, there are many like it but this one is mine. Without my GAP I am useless, without me, they will run through my GAP. I will protect my GAP and have my brothers back on his. I will not be moved from my GAP, I am a crazed dog that patrols this area and will defeat all who entire it. I own this GAP, it is mine. I bought it with blood and sweat. I will not be pushed. I will not be moved. This Sunday I will make a stand and a statement.

by Tim Lynch on Jan 25, 2009 12:22 PM MST up reply actions  

Welcome back Zap...
us optimistic guys

lol, good one.

Hope everything is well with your family.

From there, I'd like to say that the wheels came off, but that wouldn't feel like an accurate description. The wheels didn't just magically come off, the Raiders all got out of the car, shot the wheels off the own car, busted out the taillights, smashed the windshield and poured Splenda in the gas tank. Then they all piled back inside and started screaming, "CAR WON'T MOVE, ME SAD NOW!" - MJD Yahoo Sports

by donbok1 on Jan 25, 2009 12:33 PM MST up reply actions  

Thanks!

to both you and Steve O’. I hope so as well…will find out in about 10 days. I wouldn’t be so worried if he wasn’t an alcoholic with type 2 diabetes. All I can do is pray for everything to go well.

As for the wife….she will be 100% fine in a couple more weeks. :)

This is my GAP, there are many like it but this one is mine. Without my GAP I am useless, without me, they will run through my GAP. I will protect my GAP and have my brothers back on his. I will not be moved from my GAP, I am a crazed dog that patrols this area and will defeat all who entire it. I own this GAP, it is mine. I bought it with blood and sweat. I will not be pushed. I will not be moved. This Sunday I will make a stand and a statement.

by Tim Lynch on Jan 26, 2009 4:06 PM MST up reply actions  

Good to you see back Zappa

Hope all is well with your father and wish him a healthy recovery!!

"I am not trying to start anything I am just saying that i think if you take Knowshon and draft D later you guys will be hella good next year" ...IamtheGreatest - The smartest Chiefs fan I ever had the priviledge of reading!

by Steve O' on Jan 25, 2009 12:40 PM MST up reply actions  

Awesome Story!

From what I read, it seems like he plays with a combination of wisdom and reckless abandon…Love it!!! I would not mind at all if the Broncos took this kid. Great character, dedicated and smart. Imagine if he did add on 20lbs and didn’t lose his speed…WOW!

"I can do all things through HIM who gives me strength"

by BroncoCountryHawaii on Jan 23, 2009 1:25 AM MST reply actions  

If he could add 20...

I think he’d be a special player. He has all the things you hope for in a player as far as leadership, competitiveness, heart, etc. I just wish he was a little bigger. Could be a great project safety for the Broncos.

From there, I'd like to say that the wheels came off, but that wouldn't feel like an accurate description. The wheels didn't just magically come off, the Raiders all got out of the car, shot the wheels off the own car, busted out the taillights, smashed the windshield and poured Splenda in the gas tank. Then they all piled back inside and started screaming, "CAR WON'T MOVE, ME SAD NOW!" - MJD Yahoo Sports

by donbok1 on Jan 23, 2009 1:34 AM MST up reply actions  

Thanks bear,

try as I may, my profiles are never as interesting as yours.

From there, I'd like to say that the wheels came off, but that wouldn't feel like an accurate description. The wheels didn't just magically come off, the Raiders all got out of the car, shot the wheels off the own car, busted out the taillights, smashed the windshield and poured Splenda in the gas tank. Then they all piled back inside and started screaming, "CAR WON'T MOVE, ME SAD NOW!" - MJD Yahoo Sports

by donbok1 on Jan 23, 2009 1:35 AM MST up reply actions  

Beg to disagree

Each person writes with a unique style. I like yours and enjoy the visuals you provide: I know that others do as well.That’s one of the things about this site.

In Goodman We Trust

by Doc Bear on Jan 23, 2009 3:13 AM MST reply actions  

If you want Nic Harris

You better not want him at safety, because he’s transitioning to LB. He’s a guy I have my eye on as his cover skills should play very well as a turn and run LB in the NFL.

I am Jack's unbridled optimism.

by SlamDunkTheFunk on Jan 23, 2009 8:19 AM MST up reply actions  

Turn and run

Sounds like our D scheme from last year….

In Goodman We Trust

by Doc Bear on Jan 23, 2009 11:17 AM MST up reply actions  

Turn and run

You should add that to the possible “Great Defenses” nicknames.

Victor Frankl:

What man actually needs is not a tensionless state but rather the striving and struggling for some goal worthy of him. What he needs is not the discharge of tension at any cost, but the call of a potential meaning waiting to be fulfilled by him.

Everything can be taken from a man but one thing: the last of the human freedoms – to choose one’s attitude in any given set of circumstances, to choose one’s own way.

by wyoeng on Jan 23, 2009 1:02 PM MST up reply actions  

I was going to call it the Orange Ole', as we looked like the matadour getting out of the way of the bull

"Me fail english, that unpossible" - Ralph Wiggum
"Duffman is thrusting in the direction of the problem" - Duffman

by Broncoman on Jan 23, 2009 1:25 PM MST up reply actions  

Nice

Although that sounds familiar

Victor Frankl:

What man actually needs is not a tensionless state but rather the striving and struggling for some goal worthy of him. What he needs is not the discharge of tension at any cost, but the call of a potential meaning waiting to be fulfilled by him.

Everything can be taken from a man but one thing: the last of the human freedoms – to choose one’s attitude in any given set of circumstances, to choose one’s own way.

by wyoeng on Jan 23, 2009 1:31 PM MST up reply actions  

That is hilarious

but I’m not going to tell it to my SD buddies.

by Leukadian on Jan 23, 2009 1:34 PM MST up reply actions  

I was thinking more along the lines of...

Not quite as good as the original…

"It's all over Fat Man" - Tom Jackson to John Madden 1977 AFC Championship Game

"tough times don't last, tough people do" - Mike "The Mastermind" Shanahan

by DesertBroncoFan on Jan 27, 2009 3:07 PM MST up reply actions  

Haha

Nice.

I am Jack's unbridled optimism.

by SlamDunkTheFunk on Jan 23, 2009 4:16 PM MST up reply actions  

classic

From there, I'd like to say that the wheels came off, but that wouldn't feel like an accurate description. The wheels didn't just magically come off, the Raiders all got out of the car, shot the wheels off the own car, busted out the taillights, smashed the windshield and poured Splenda in the gas tank. Then they all piled back inside and started screaming, "CAR WON'T MOVE, ME SAD NOW!" - MJD Yahoo Sports

by donbok1 on Jan 23, 2009 8:04 PM MST up reply actions  

I am wondering if Moore, mizzou

isn’t going to be asked to try some linebacker drills when teams start visiting with him…

Concision in style, precision in thought, decision in life.

by Jeremy Bolander on Jan 23, 2009 2:35 PM MST up reply actions  

Honestly

His junior year was great, but he looked extremely plain his senior season. His work in the Senior Bowl has been really underwhelming, and I think he should seriously consider a transition to LB.

I am Jack's unbridled optimism.

by SlamDunkTheFunk on Jan 23, 2009 4:15 PM MST up reply actions  

Was there a change in scheme...

in Mizzou’s D? Or maybe switched his duties? Hard to believe you can go (stat wise) from his junior season to his senior, without a change in his role in the D in some respect.?

From there, I'd like to say that the wheels came off, but that wouldn't feel like an accurate description. The wheels didn't just magically come off, the Raiders all got out of the car, shot the wheels off the own car, busted out the taillights, smashed the windshield and poured Splenda in the gas tank. Then they all piled back inside and started screaming, "CAR WON'T MOVE, ME SAD NOW!" - MJD Yahoo Sports

by donbok1 on Jan 23, 2009 7:35 PM MST up reply actions  

Not that I know of.

He just underachieved… all year. I can’t think of one game where he made a big-time game breaking play for us. He was Mizzou’s biggest disappointment all year. Now, Brock Christopher, however, is a totally different story. That guy is MEAN.

Also, in a couple of years, expect to hear the name Adam Burton from Mizzou. Mostly because he goes to my high school and is my friend, so I’m obligated to talk about him here, but he does power clean 350, squat 650, and runs a 4.6, which must count for something. So… in four years, it’s Burton, baby!! lol.

私の署名はちょうど任意風変わりな言葉および日本の特性である。
-My signature exactly is optional queer word and the Japanese quality.

by papigrande on Jan 23, 2009 8:42 PM MST up reply actions  

mizzou bloggers response:
A homer perspective:

You’ve touched on/linked to something we’ve batted around all year long at Rock M Nation – the disappearance of William Moore during his senior year.

Moore was horribly, horribly mismanaged by the coaching staff during his senior season, as the defensive staff elected to move him to a hybrid linebacker/slot corner position in Missouri’s nickel-heavy system. The positioning shift allowed him to utilize the physicality you mentioned and add a mobile yet punishing body against the run game, but it took away one of his best assets: his ability to play "centerfield" and ball hawk. Combine the mismanagement with his a constant fight with injuries, and his senior season was far from what Missouri fans expected when celebrating his return this time last year.

Now, I can’t claim to be an accomplished evaluator of pro talent and I won’t guarantee anything by any stretch of the imagination. But, for the last eight weeks or so of the 2007 season, there may not have been a better safety in America than William Moore. That talent didn’t go anywhere. He could very well be a clean bill of health and a good coaching staff away from regaining that form.

This is from rptgwb . he added some other points here.

Concision in style, precision in thought, decision in life.

by Jeremy Bolander on Jan 23, 2009 9:28 PM MST up reply actions  

thanks styg...

that makes a lot of sense, and also says a lot about Moore, willing to do that for the team his senior year.

From there, I'd like to say that the wheels came off, but that wouldn't feel like an accurate description. The wheels didn't just magically come off, the Raiders all got out of the car, shot the wheels off the own car, busted out the taillights, smashed the windshield and poured Splenda in the gas tank. Then they all piled back inside and started screaming, "CAR WON'T MOVE, ME SAD NOW!" - MJD Yahoo Sports

by donbok1 on Jan 24, 2009 6:27 AM MST up reply actions  

Just watched Harris interviewed on NFL network...

sounded like he’d be doing drills with both the LB’s and the DB’s at the combine. It will be interesting to see his 40 times. If he can run anything respectable like a 4.5 – 4.65, and at 6’3" and 230lbs. he becomes very interesting.

From there, I'd like to say that the wheels came off, but that wouldn't feel like an accurate description. The wheels didn't just magically come off, the Raiders all got out of the car, shot the wheels off the own car, busted out the taillights, smashed the windshield and poured Splenda in the gas tank. Then they all piled back inside and started screaming, "CAR WON'T MOVE, ME SAD NOW!" - MJD Yahoo Sports

by donbok1 on Jan 26, 2009 10:46 AM MST up reply actions  

Even if he's a touch slower

I think he’s a fascinating prospect. I hated him at OU, but now that he’s coming into the NFL and I don’t have to worry about his college affiliation, he’s one of the guys I’m watching very closely. He’s said that most teams are viewing him as a safety, but the coaches at the Senior Bowl wanted to see how he could do at LB, and I think he might end up like Thomas Davis did a few years ago where he’s drafted as a S but quickly transitions into a hybrid role before shifting to LB for the majority of his snaps. A guy with that kind of versatility is invaluable though, especially on a team as decimated by injuries as ours has been in recent seasons.

I am Jack's unbridled optimism.

by SlamDunkTheFunk on Jan 26, 2009 2:11 PM MST up reply actions  

Great story.

Sounds like a good player. As long as it is later in the draft, keep him in the picture.

by precisiontint on Jan 23, 2009 7:37 AM MST reply actions  

I love this kid

He’s a work in progress, but he has a lot of room for growth and projects as a solid player at the next level. Very intriguing prospect.

I am Jack's unbridled optimism.

by SlamDunkTheFunk on Jan 23, 2009 8:20 AM MST reply actions  

Good right up

Sounds maybe more like a Bob Sanders type guy, someone who can be a playmaker, but may be injury prone due to his size and style of play. Right now I will take anyone over who we got.

"Me fail english, that unpossible" - Ralph Wiggum
"Duffman is thrusting in the direction of the problem" - Duffman

by Broncoman on Jan 23, 2009 10:09 AM MST reply actions  

Sorry "write up", I suck.

"Me fail english, that unpossible" - Ralph Wiggum
"Duffman is thrusting in the direction of the problem" - Duffman

by Broncoman on Jan 23, 2009 10:12 AM MST up reply actions  

Thanks Broncoman...

I with you, I don’t really care if it’s Chung, Delmas, or anyone else. Just so they bring in some new talent at the position.

From there, I'd like to say that the wheels came off, but that wouldn't feel like an accurate description. The wheels didn't just magically come off, the Raiders all got out of the car, shot the wheels off the own car, busted out the taillights, smashed the windshield and poured Splenda in the gas tank. Then they all piled back inside and started screaming, "CAR WON'T MOVE, ME SAD NOW!" - MJD Yahoo Sports

by donbok1 on Jan 24, 2009 4:43 PM MST up reply actions  

Great Post

I love the “leadership” characteristics. This is your typical motor, heart, and past success versus “triangle” measurables (height/weight/speed) argument.

McDaniels comes from an organization that takes the guy they like best based on..get this..who they like best, regardless of how big or fast you are.

This guy will most definitely be on Denver’s radar.

Love the work donbok!

by super7 on Jan 23, 2009 10:10 AM MST reply actions  

Thanks super7...

is that the draft strategy of the Pat’s you’re talking about? Tell me more.

From there, I'd like to say that the wheels came off, but that wouldn't feel like an accurate description. The wheels didn't just magically come off, the Raiders all got out of the car, shot the wheels off the own car, busted out the taillights, smashed the windshield and poured Splenda in the gas tank. Then they all piled back inside and started screaming, "CAR WON'T MOVE, ME SAD NOW!" - MJD Yahoo Sports

by donbok1 on Jan 23, 2009 7:36 PM MST up reply actions  

We need to totally revamp our safeties - new FS and a new SS in our 3-4

At FS, I like Delmas or Chung or even Rashad Johnson in a later round. At SS, I like Kevin Ellison (USC) or Curtis Taylor (LSU) – both with good size / speed / run support and ball skills.

- Chung is bigger and is a weapon in the return game but might not be there for us at 48 (second round). If not, I think Delmas would be a great fit and think we should take him there or in the 3rd

by GJcontingent-rAd on Jan 23, 2009 10:21 AM MST reply actions  

Most scouts project Chung as a SS...

and Delmas at FS. Do you see something in Chung’s game that makes you think FS? I agree as far as Ellison goes. I think he’ll have great value at SS in rounds 3 and later.(If we wait that long for a safety pick)

From there, I'd like to say that the wheels came off, but that wouldn't feel like an accurate description. The wheels didn't just magically come off, the Raiders all got out of the car, shot the wheels off the own car, busted out the taillights, smashed the windshield and poured Splenda in the gas tank. Then they all piled back inside and started screaming, "CAR WON'T MOVE, ME SAD NOW!" - MJD Yahoo Sports

by donbok1 on Jan 23, 2009 7:40 PM MST up reply actions  

and the best part

you could get him easily in the second round. he is also more fit for our scheme than chung.

"Hey Raiders fans!!! If you leave now you can beat traffic!"
-Rod Smith

by GarretBarnes on Jan 23, 2009 10:26 AM MST reply actions  

Delmas, Chung, and Johnson.

All three of them will be gone in the 2nd round. I think it is important to grab one of these three, as our current situation is horrendous and the FA class is not very impressive.

"Some guys got drafted and they ain't played football in 15 years and I'm still waiting to get drafted. I'm still waiting to hear my name." -Rod Smith

by The Heat on Jan 23, 2009 10:53 AM MST reply actions  

Indeed

These three should be high priority targets in the second round. If I had my way, we would snag Johnson, but we’ll see if manages to slide to us. That being said, drafting for need can be a really poor draft strategy.

I am Jack's unbridled optimism.

by SlamDunkTheFunk on Jan 23, 2009 4:18 PM MST up reply actions  

Multiple DTs

It is hard to get good DTs. Perhaps we should pick 3 DTs using higher draft picks and hope we get 1 really good one.

Victor Frankl:

What man actually needs is not a tensionless state but rather the striving and struggling for some goal worthy of him. What he needs is not the discharge of tension at any cost, but the call of a potential meaning waiting to be fulfilled by him.

Everything can be taken from a man but one thing: the last of the human freedoms – to choose one’s attitude in any given set of circumstances, to choose one’s own way.

by wyoeng on Jan 23, 2009 1:03 PM MST reply actions  

I think we just need to get the best player available regardless of position on defense

If that is three DT, then so be it, or three CB, I just want a talent and attitude infusion on defense.

"Me fail english, that unpossible" - Ralph Wiggum
"Duffman is thrusting in the direction of the problem" - Duffman

by Broncoman on Jan 23, 2009 1:26 PM MST up reply actions  

Donbok...my man!!

I like it…looking for gems…nice!

"I am not trying to start anything I am just saying that i think if you take Knowshon and draft D later you guys will be hella good next year" ...IamtheGreatest - The smartest Chiefs fan I ever had the priviledge of reading!

by Steve O' on Jan 23, 2009 4:34 PM MST reply actions  

Thanks SteveO...

I really like this kid for us in the second round. I think the character reason alone validates him for consideration. Not much video on him out there, but most profiles on him reflect favorably.

From there, I'd like to say that the wheels came off, but that wouldn't feel like an accurate description. The wheels didn't just magically come off, the Raiders all got out of the car, shot the wheels off the own car, busted out the taillights, smashed the windshield and poured Splenda in the gas tank. Then they all piled back inside and started screaming, "CAR WON'T MOVE, ME SAD NOW!" - MJD Yahoo Sports

by donbok1 on Jan 23, 2009 7:45 PM MST up reply actions  

I just caught your new sig...

nice! Keep banging that drum bro! How much fun would it be to watch everyone freak out about picking RB in round 1, then come to find out Goodman & Sons pulls off another all world draft, and our second round safety, third round DT, fourth round LB, fifth round TE and DE all become starters along with a couple other contributors from the sixth and seventh rounds. Along with our offensive rookie of the year RB from some school in the SEC. They will rename Colfax Ave. Goodman Drive, and next year at this time people will be talking about how Goodmen are the best in the NFL!

From there, I'd like to say that the wheels came off, but that wouldn't feel like an accurate description. The wheels didn't just magically come off, the Raiders all got out of the car, shot the wheels off the own car, busted out the taillights, smashed the windshield and poured Splenda in the gas tank. Then they all piled back inside and started screaming, "CAR WON'T MOVE, ME SAD NOW!" - MJD Yahoo Sports

by donbok1 on Jan 23, 2009 7:58 PM MST up reply actions  

That's why your my man!!

"I am not trying to start anything I am just saying that i think if you take Knowshon and draft D later you guys will be hella good next year" ...IamtheGreatest - The smartest Chiefs fan I ever had the priviledge of reading!

by Steve O' on Jan 23, 2009 8:43 PM MST up reply actions  

I really think Delmas has the "it" factor...

and whoever drafts him, will be getting not only a great player, but adding a great human being to their staff, ala Eddie Royal.

From there, I'd like to say that the wheels came off, but that wouldn't feel like an accurate description. The wheels didn't just magically come off, the Raiders all got out of the car, shot the wheels off the own car, busted out the taillights, smashed the windshield and poured Splenda in the gas tank. Then they all piled back inside and started screaming, "CAR WON'T MOVE, ME SAD NOW!" - MJD Yahoo Sports

by donbok1 on Jan 23, 2009 8:09 PM MST reply actions  

Donbok!!!

Rec’d my man!
This guy sounds like a Bob Sanders type to me but with the upside of being able to be a little bigger.
I like the sound of this kid!
Great post!

Those that cant coach, compete!
Failing to plan is planning to fail.

by boydy2669 on Jan 23, 2009 8:31 PM MST reply actions  

thanks boydy...

I think he may have a little better coverage skill than Sanders, but it’s hard to gauge his run support. Every thing I read about him at the senior bowl has said he is equally good at run support, but some scouting reports say flat out, that he needs to improve in that area.

From there, I'd like to say that the wheels came off, but that wouldn't feel like an accurate description. The wheels didn't just magically come off, the Raiders all got out of the car, shot the wheels off the own car, busted out the taillights, smashed the windshield and poured Splenda in the gas tank. Then they all piled back inside and started screaming, "CAR WON'T MOVE, ME SAD NOW!" - MJD Yahoo Sports

by donbok1 on Jan 24, 2009 6:33 AM MST up reply actions  

Boy scouts

In paying more attention, some of the scouting seems to state what was true as if it is true. I don’t know if that’s the case, but it might be; if so, that would make Delmas an even more interesting option.

Since we’’ll have a D scheme next year, getting a good FS, in the draft or FA, is going to be essential. Barrett might get there, but one of his weaknesses right now is thinking too much and the demands of the position will require a different skillset

In Goodman We Trust

by Doc Bear on Jan 24, 2009 2:15 PM MST reply actions  

After reading more carefully...

I see what you are referring to. Thanks bear.

From there, I'd like to say that the wheels came off, but that wouldn't feel like an accurate description. The wheels didn't just magically come off, the Raiders all got out of the car, shot the wheels off the own car, busted out the taillights, smashed the windshield and poured Splenda in the gas tank. Then they all piled back inside and started screaming, "CAR WON'T MOVE, ME SAD NOW!" - MJD Yahoo Sports

by donbok1 on Jan 24, 2009 3:00 PM MST up reply actions  

Sorry to double post

From Scott Wright:

 Strengths:
Very tough and physical…Excellent instincts and awareness…Does an outstanding job against the run…Will deliver the big hit
They argue that he needs to get stronger and can overpursue. Sure – both issues can be addressed at the NFL level.

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by Doc Bear on Jan 24, 2009 2:18 PM MST reply actions  

Safeties

Delmas is one of the Safeties we’ll be looking at around the 2nd round, and there are no good prospects in the 1st although Moore still deserves some consideration but his stock has dropped somewhat and should go later in the round.

Two Safeties of similar size/speed who rate high on intangibles are Delmas and Rashad Johnson. A third Safety deserving consideration in that ~2nd round range is Sean Smith, who’s bigger (6’3, 214lbs) and could fit at CB or SS, too.

It might be best if we distinguish between FS types and SS types since Safeties are increasingly diverging in their characteristics. Delmas and R. Johnson are both hard hitting center fielder types and their primary value to a team should be their coverage abilities (combined with aggressive hits on receivers) and their potential weakness will be in run support.

The SS types, led by William Moore, are usually very good at run support but often show potential limitations in coverage.

There’s nothing profound about the FS/SS schema but it’s a helpful tool for analyzing Safety prospects. And the better prospects are ‘less weak’ in their weakness area while maintaining their strength in their strong areas. Comparing all Safeties without regard to type can result in misleading ‘apples and oranges’ comparisons that pit one’s strength against the other’s weakness while ignoring the flip side comparison.

I think we’d like to find two Safeties in this draft but it may be more realistic to expect one (good one), and he may be either a SS or FS type (a later, less highly touted, pick could be added, too). Like many areas in this now expanded project of rebuilding the defense, fixing the Safety position should require more than one draft. This isn’t quite the tragedy it may seem since next year’s Safety crop looks even better. Moreover, we can realistically only draft one Safety high, or at least not without shorting another position.

I’d like to see us draft a Safety in the first four rounds, and the best spot appears to be in the 2nd round.

A final thought — two areas; Safety and ILB, are continuing needs in this draft/ or free agency. Looking at things from a building the 3-4 perspective, we should also be looking to add important elements that will provide a nucleus of our 3-4. One of these is a continuing need — DT/NT — which will undoubtedly be shaped to fit our new defense. Some other important areas are OLB and DE34, and I’d like to see us add at both if possible. There will be some offensive players drafted by us in the draft but I think people should temper their demands.

by Colinski on Jan 24, 2009 3:56 PM MST reply actions  

Good info 'Ski

I thought Moore was more of a true FS. I know he played more of a SS this year in his Rover position, but thought that his talent was best displayed when he was playing the center field FS position earlier in his career. Styg’s profile on him has some good info in the comments section about this.

I don’t think the people pushing for an offensive pick are necessarily demanding their pick of choice, but hoping for their favorite player to be in orange and blue next year as this is an exciting time for all of us. I enjoy hearing their opinions on why we should go RB in round one. I also have a couple offensive players that I’d love to see the Broncos take home with them in April. One is Shawn Nelson, the TE from S. Miss. He’s gotten a lot of press in recent days, and our chances of getting him in the latter rounds may have been hurt because of it. He’s not flying under any one’s radar anymore. The other position I’d like to solidify is center and either Mack, or Unger would be great, but I’m afraid they will be gone long before we are willing to address the offense in this draft.

From there, I'd like to say that the wheels came off, but that wouldn't feel like an accurate description. The wheels didn't just magically come off, the Raiders all got out of the car, shot the wheels off the own car, busted out the taillights, smashed the windshield and poured Splenda in the gas tank. Then they all piled back inside and started screaming, "CAR WON'T MOVE, ME SAD NOW!" - MJD Yahoo Sports

by donbok1 on Jan 24, 2009 4:29 PM MST up reply actions  

Moore as a FS

That was part of his appeal but he hasn’t shown much lately that would back up his credentials as a FS. There’s several reasons for poor performances (relatively speaking) lately, and I’d dearly love to see how well he does at the combine. One-on-one drills at the Senior Bowl are important, as is the game itself, but the real test is the combine.

Moore’s going to have to get back into shape and rectify the damage done during his senior season. It’s easy to overstate this, however, and his senior statistics were hardly that bad, but they’re more in line with what a Safety in the box is required to do than a centerfielder FS type.

My personal preference is for someone without limitations in coverage, a FS type. I’d like an in-the-box type, a SS, but I’m not willing to sacrifice much in coverage. As I’ve said, we may get one good FS or SS this year, along with some not so good ones, but not both necessarily. Next year, as I’ve been promising every year, is going to be a wonderful year for Safeties.

by Colinski on Jan 26, 2009 5:10 PM MST up reply actions  

Oh my god

if all the eligible guys declare, next year’s crop of safeties might be the most loaded in the history of the draft. Typically, there are only a few pretty decent safeties available in any one draft, but next year is going to be a godsend for safety-needy teams.

I am Jack's unbridled optimism.

by SlamDunkTheFunk on Jan 26, 2009 6:30 PM MST up reply actions  

+1

From there, I'd like to say that the wheels came off, but that wouldn't feel like an accurate description. The wheels didn't just magically come off, the Raiders all got out of the car, shot the wheels off the own car, busted out the taillights, smashed the windshield and poured Splenda in the gas tank. Then they all piled back inside and started screaming, "CAR WON'T MOVE, ME SAD NOW!" - MJD Yahoo Sports

by donbok1 on Jan 26, 2009 11:55 PM MST up reply actions  

styg's profile page...

on Mr. Moore is here

From there, I'd like to say that the wheels came off, but that wouldn't feel like an accurate description. The wheels didn't just magically come off, the Raiders all got out of the car, shot the wheels off the own car, busted out the taillights, smashed the windshield and poured Splenda in the gas tank. Then they all piled back inside and started screaming, "CAR WON'T MOVE, ME SAD NOW!" - MJD Yahoo Sports

by donbok1 on Jan 24, 2009 5:17 PM MST up reply actions  

More on Louis...

Some post Senior Bowl comments about Delmas:

S Louis Delmas from Western Michigan was a big winner this week, showing versatility and leadership. Delmas is listed as a FS, but with his skills and a few extra lbs he could make the switch. In prognosticating a replacement for SS Roy Williams the Dallas Morning News said of Delmas, “Maybe too good for the Cowboys, since Delmas might have played his way into the top half of the second round. He might be the most complete safety in the draft.” Oregon’s Patrick Chung is another SS shooting up the draft board. He had a good week by several accounts.
9. Louis Delmas, S, Western Michigan – An aggressive safety that plays a lot bigger than what he really is. I think he’s emerged as the best safety in the draft. – Hortman, Football Jungle

From there, I'd like to say that the wheels came off, but that wouldn't feel like an accurate description. The wheels didn't just magically come off, the Raiders all got out of the car, shot the wheels off the own car, busted out the taillights, smashed the windshield and poured Splenda in the gas tank. Then they all piled back inside and started screaming, "CAR WON'T MOVE, ME SAD NOW!" - MJD Yahoo Sports

by donbok1 on Jan 26, 2009 10:55 AM MST reply actions  

a couple more from rotoworld and SI:
Louis Delmas of Western Michigan has reportedly been the most impressive safety at the Senior Bowl.
Delmas has allegedly outplayed Mizzou SS William Moore, who is considered a first-round prospect in some circles. Delmas is more of a center-field free safety type. He’s showed great closing speed and instincts in practice.
Source: National Football Post
Louis Delmas/S/Western Michigan: Delmas displayed an array of skills from day one. He was effective in pass coverage, very tough against the run and showed a lot of leadership in the secondary. He has positioned himself as one of the top three safeties in the draft. – SI

Starting to sound like Louis has drawn too much attention to himself to expect to get him any later than the second round.

From there, I'd like to say that the wheels came off, but that wouldn't feel like an accurate description. The wheels didn't just magically come off, the Raiders all got out of the car, shot the wheels off the own car, busted out the taillights, smashed the windshield and poured Splenda in the gas tank. Then they all piled back inside and started screaming, "CAR WON'T MOVE, ME SAD NOW!" - MJD Yahoo Sports

by donbok1 on Jan 26, 2009 11:07 AM MST up reply actions  

I would have no argument

if Denver picked him in the 2nd round.

I am Jack's unbridled optimism.

by SlamDunkTheFunk on Jan 26, 2009 2:11 PM MST up reply actions  

i was projecting S in 2nd

anyone so i dont care whaether its delmas or chung (did u see his stop at the goaline very nice)

by robbo650 on Jan 26, 2009 5:18 PM MST up reply actions  

Christmas comes in April...

for me if we go safety before round 3, and at this point I hope it’s either Delmas or Chung.

From there, I'd like to say that the wheels came off, but that wouldn't feel like an accurate description. The wheels didn't just magically come off, the Raiders all got out of the car, shot the wheels off the own car, busted out the taillights, smashed the windshield and poured Splenda in the gas tank. Then they all piled back inside and started screaming, "CAR WON'T MOVE, ME SAD NOW!" - MJD Yahoo Sports

by donbok1 on Jan 26, 2009 5:24 PM MST up reply actions  

take a look at Rashad Johnson and Sean Smtth, too

I see all 4 being in that range, but it’s a question of where in the 2nd, or early 3rd. I really do wish we would trade down in the 1st and pick up an extra 2nd and 3rd. There are SO many more needs we could effectively address if we had more picks in this range.

by Colinski on Jan 26, 2009 5:33 PM MST up reply actions  

I love Rashad Johnson

and I would him second out of the safeties listed. I would go Delmas, Johnson, Chung, Smith. A decent crop of guys, for sure, as more quality safeties seem to be coming out college in recent years. Bout time, too, because I love me some safeties.

I am Jack's unbridled optimism.

by SlamDunkTheFunk on Jan 26, 2009 6:27 PM MST up reply actions  

Depending on Landry and Dawkins resigning with their teams...

any idea who will be looking at safety early in the draft?

From there, I'd like to say that the wheels came off, but that wouldn't feel like an accurate description. The wheels didn't just magically come off, the Raiders all got out of the car, shot the wheels off the own car, busted out the taillights, smashed the windshield and poured Splenda in the gas tank. Then they all piled back inside and started screaming, "CAR WON'T MOVE, ME SAD NOW!" - MJD Yahoo Sports

by donbok1 on Jan 26, 2009 9:53 PM MST up reply actions  

This could be an interesting topic

Want to co-write a post in which we dissect various divisions and each team needs?

I am Jack's unbridled optimism.

by SlamDunkTheFunk on Jan 27, 2009 1:36 AM MST up reply actions  

That would be cool...

and maybe give us a little better idea what may be available through day 1.

From there, I'd like to say that the wheels came off, but that wouldn't feel like an accurate description. The wheels didn't just magically come off, the Raiders all got out of the car, shot the wheels off the own car, busted out the taillights, smashed the windshield and poured Splenda in the gas tank. Then they all piled back inside and started screaming, "CAR WON'T MOVE, ME SAD NOW!" - MJD Yahoo Sports

by donbok1 on Jan 27, 2009 7:53 PM MST up reply actions  

ESPN gets in on the Delmas praise and WMoore bashing...
4. Western Michigan S Louis Delmas
Delmas is another small-school prospect who showed he can compete with some of the nation’s elite this week. At 5-11 and 197 pounds, he lacks elite size, but he is a tough run-stopper who took excellent pursuit angles and did a nice job of breaking down into sound tackling positions. More importantly, he showed above-average instincts and range in coverage. Although he isn’t the biggest safety in the 2009 class and probably isn’t the fastest, either, he certainly is the most complete.
4. Missouri S William Moore
We have had concerns about Moore’s diagnostic skills and stiffness in his hips. Those concerns were confirmed when comparing him to other top safeties playing in the Senior Bowl, such as Delmas and Alabama’s Rashad Johnson. Moore still could be a top-40 selection because of his outstanding size-speed combination, but he won’t rank that high on our board.

What a difference a week makes. McShay says Delmas is now the most complete safety on the board, and kicks Moore out of his top 40. Hope Moore can put it together for the combine. He has to be second guessing his decision to stay last year.

Delmas has moved ahead of Chung on my own wish list. Every thing I read about this kid is positive, and his rock solid character and leadership abilities will keep him at the top of my safety list. Although I wouldn’t be upset to end up with Chung, Johnson, Harris, or even Vontae Davis and making him a safety, I will still be quietly pulling for Delmas from here to April. I’m officially on the bandwagon.

From there, I'd like to say that the wheels came off, but that wouldn't feel like an accurate description. The wheels didn't just magically come off, the Raiders all got out of the car, shot the wheels off the own car, busted out the taillights, smashed the windshield and poured Splenda in the gas tank. Then they all piled back inside and started screaming, "CAR WON'T MOVE, ME SAD NOW!" - MJD Yahoo Sports

by donbok1 on Jan 26, 2009 10:33 PM MST reply actions  

I tend to agree

This definately is not as strong a safety class as it could be, but I would probably put Delmas and Johnson ahead of Moore, I have heard the excuses for Moore, changing schemes, coaches didn’t use him “right”, but when you add up the game film from last year and the senior bowl, he may drop into 3rd round, I don’t know how much a strong showing at the combine will do, I think the Broncos and many other teams have gotten too worked up about combine numbers versus looking a tape, plenty of workout wonder guys have flamed out in the NFL.

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by Broncoman on Jan 27, 2009 12:13 AM MST up reply actions  

It's amusing

I don’t have Moore on my wishlist at all. If it’s the 4th round, and we’ve already filled some holes and he’s sitting there, then give him a call. But a Day One pick (I’ll never get used to Day One being just 2 rounds, sorry)? Not anymore. To be honest, I’m not as high on Chung as a lot others are, and you bring up an idea I personally love in Vontae Davis. That kid is a player, but his attitude tends to scare me off. That being said, were we to somehow find us picking in the 16-20 slot, I would be very, very tempted to pull the trigger on Vontae Davis. That being said, if our second pick rolls around and none of the safeties are gone, I’ll say pick Delmas, but overlooking the excellent competition that Johnson played so well against is very hard for me. He’s already accustomed to big-time football and the spotlight wont make his eyes get any bigger. In reality, it’s really a minor thing in my mind, but all things being equal, the guy with the experience might just get the call.

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by SlamDunkTheFunk on Jan 27, 2009 1:36 AM MST up reply actions  

You make a good argument for Johnson...

and I know a week of practice isn’t the same as playing four years in the SEC. But Delmas went up against the best seniors the NCAA had to offer, and did more than just impress a few scouts. It seems to be unanimous. I’ve read every report on him I can find, and I’m yet to find anything negative about him coming from Senior Bowl week. Add to that his character and leadership traits, I think he could really be a special player, and citizen for Denver.

We could do a lot worse than preform a safety experiment with Vontae. Worse case scenario, we should end up with a very talented, young CB. At that point, would it hurt to move Champ to safety, and tandem Bly with Vontae, if he proves to be the CB talent he’s being portrayed as? We all know Champ can cover, run support, tackle, and is smart enough to align the DB’s. Also buys us time to get into next year where Bly’s contract isn’t untouchable to move, and the safety class of the decade is due to hit the draft. I think it’s a very real possibility.

From there, I'd like to say that the wheels came off, but that wouldn't feel like an accurate description. The wheels didn't just magically come off, the Raiders all got out of the car, shot the wheels off the own car, busted out the taillights, smashed the windshield and poured Splenda in the gas tank. Then they all piled back inside and started screaming, "CAR WON'T MOVE, ME SAD NOW!" - MJD Yahoo Sports

by donbok1 on Jan 27, 2009 8:12 PM MST up reply actions  

I love both guys

to be honest. I was just saying that, if all things were equal (which they obviously aren’t), the guy with the career playing big-time football would probably be my preference (though I always have had an affinity for small school prospects). Also, I think it might be a tab unfair to place Delmas’s performance for one week at the Senior Bowl on the same level as a career in the SEC, especially with how abnormally strong the SEC has been in recent years.

All of this being said, I’d still take Delmas. Or Johnson. Maybe Delmas. But Johnson is good, too. Damnit.

I am Jack's unbridled optimism.

by SlamDunkTheFunk on Jan 27, 2009 8:23 PM MST up reply actions  

lol

From there, I'd like to say that the wheels came off, but that wouldn't feel like an accurate description. The wheels didn't just magically come off, the Raiders all got out of the car, shot the wheels off the own car, busted out the taillights, smashed the windshield and poured Splenda in the gas tank. Then they all piled back inside and started screaming, "CAR WON'T MOVE, ME SAD NOW!" - MJD Yahoo Sports

by donbok1 on Jan 27, 2009 8:52 PM MST up reply actions  

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