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Who would you choose?

I am totally fascinated with the draft and have been for years.  To me it's like Christmas in April.  So I have been checking out a lot of the mocks and most of them have us taking either Ray Maualuga or B.J. Raji with the 12th pick.  I really like both guys and a great argument could be made for either guy.  The quick point I have for each guy is this:  Ray Maualuga could be the LB we have been needing since Al Wilson went down.  B.J. Raji could be the NT we so desperately need for the 3-4 to be successful.  So let me hear it from you guys.  If you were picking for the Denver Broncos, you choose...

 

I have tried to do a poll but am not smart or patient enough.

btw. great sight for checking mocks www.hailredskins.com/MockDraft.htm

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I am in the Maualuga camp

But I am not against Raji and would be happy with either, but if I had to make the call I would take Maualuga and try to get a NT later or next year through the draft or free agancy (I think Vince Wolfork will be a FA next year) or look at a boy named Suh who plays in Nebraska next year.

The biggest reason I like Maualuga is that he brings a fire, intensity, leadership, and playmaking ability to the LB corps, but he also makes the other players around him better. He has I guess what I call an “it” factor, someone like Ray Lewis or Junior Seau, that just brings that ability to get the players around him to play better.

Raji obviously is a physcially gifted athlete and will likely be a force at the next level, but I think Maualuga is a special brand of player that does not come around that often and we won’t get another shot at a player like him in awhile.

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by Broncoman on Jan 23, 2009 1:23 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

I think I'm leaning that way myself

I’m thinking he may be too good to pass up on.

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by orangeblood on Jan 23, 2009 1:40 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

I agree totaly

But where would we put. I think dj and larsen are the ILB in the 3-4

by robbo650 on Jan 24, 2009 8:39 AM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Raji

The temptation of finding a DL anchor is too hard to pass up (ref. ’08 Clady). The LB situation is just not as dire as the DL.

by CoastalBronco on Jan 23, 2009 1:33 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

I would perfer Raji

It usually takes awhile for the defensive line to get up to speed. It would be better to start that process now.

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by wyoeng on Jan 23, 2009 1:33 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

Reserving Judgement...

I am leaning toward Maualuga, but that’s because a) I live in So. Cal and know of him and b) I’ve not heard of this Raji character. However, since we’ve yet to even be done with the post season, the Mocks will all change here following the Combine, most likely pushing Maualuga and Raji either up or out of the first round. Remember, the name Cutler was nowhere on anybody’s list at this time in 2006.

Now, what Orangeblood says is entirely true. If you’re hunting for Mock Drafts, this is (though a Redskins site) the first and last stop. They maintain a database of over 100 mock drafts and it’s updated every day. However, I do dig MHR’s running tally thing that was just put up for the Mocks linked to….

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by Jezru on Jan 23, 2009 2:05 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

Even though the Broncs will most likely pick up a serviceable NT

by trade or FA before the draft, my sense is that they will pick Raji because they want the upside talent that he has. If they don’t have a decent NT, the 3-4 defense will not run very well. I like Maualuga and agree that he is an outstanding talent, but what do we need most right now? If we get an excellent NT before the draft, then Raji may fall past us – if he is still on the board. Also safety needs to be addressed.

by Blackknigh on Jan 23, 2009 2:22 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

Knowshon Moreno.

Seriously though, I think Raji will be the pick if possible. I’m currently trying to wrap my brain around our needs (NT, DE, ILB/OLB, S, RB and IOL?) and the way we could address all that in the draft.

by ejruiz on Jan 23, 2009 2:31 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

you scared me for a second

I was waiting for someone to name a RB. I should have included somewhere in the post, WE DON’T NEED A RUNNING BACK IN THE 1ST ROUND!

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by orangeblood on Jan 23, 2009 2:34 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

Why?

We are only going to have 7 reporting to training camp.

J

by Jezru on Jan 23, 2009 2:44 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Well...

I think all of our current RB are deficient in durability and/or skill. Passing on a potentially elite back because you have a bunch of decent guys or potential locked up in fragile bodies is ridiculous, especially since no significant money is tied up at the position to begin with. If we were relatively secure in the fact that we could get a solid NT (Brace?) and S (Chung or Delmas?) in some combination in the 2nd and 3rd rounds, then I might be OK with Knowshon in the 1st. I need to go deeper and see what we’d have as options for DE, LB and IOL, but I understand should be available later in the draft thanks to the systems that we run. I haven’t made up my mind either way…

by ejruiz on Jan 23, 2009 3:45 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Knowshon is what Goodman is looking for though

From GJ Contingent’s post

As Jim Goodman has said, we’re looking for smart, tough, character-driven football players who compete every day in a certain way.

"I am not trying to start anything I am just saying that i think if you take Knowshon and draft D later you guys will be hella good next year" ...IamtheGreatest - The smartest Chiefs fan I ever had the priviledge of reading!

by Steve O' on Jan 23, 2009 3:49 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Here's an intersting idea, Jerremy Maclin - WR

Yes, not a need, but think of the WR group and ST that you would have with Marshall, Maclin, Royal, and Stokely, we would never need to run the ball again. LOL And since our defense will stink we can at least keep the games exciting with Maclin and Royal returning kicks, so bassically we would probably start on the 50 yd line three passes to the 5 yd line, Hillis plows in from there or pass to one of the TE.

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by Broncoman on Jan 23, 2009 2:46 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

My biggest issue with Maclin

and this is the first time I’ve really seen him mentioned here (I don’t want you to think I’m picking on you or anything lol) is that teams really seemed to figure him out the more he played. He’s a dynamic talent, no doubt, but with our current situation, if we’re going to take an offensive player in the first round, he HAS to bring more to the table than a slot receiver who can return kicks (both positions we’re already solid in, imo).

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by SlamDunkTheFunk on Jan 23, 2009 5:54 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

You know

That’s not a bad idea – perhaps not Maclin, but the fact that Stokley has had another concussion and we could lose him at anytime, so get another big, quality receiver to match with Marshall and move Royal to the slot when the time comes.

In Goodman We Trust

by Emmett Smith on Jan 23, 2009 2:56 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

Do not take take Maualuga!

Sorry…premature post. I live in Oregon and have watched countless Pac10 games over the last few years. Maualuga is a physical beast but not the greatest football player available. If you watch a lot of USC games you will see guys like Cushing or Mays in on every play or always near the ball. They are football players. Maualuga reminds me of a Vernon Gholsten type of player.

I want the Broncos to go after football players first and physical beasts second. Raji would be an excellent pick. If the draft were tomorrow Raji would not be available for us. Please don’t make the pick because you are assuming all Samoans are created equal! Junior Seau was a football player first. Look at the Patriots with the pick of Jerrod Mayo last year. Best defensive rookie but hardly on anybody’s radar leading up to the draft. He was a player first and a beast second. I also feel laurinitis is overrated, a beast first, a player second etc.

 If we were not able to get the defensive player we want with the 12th pick, we should trade down and end up with something like one late first round pick and two second round picks. That would be infinitely better for a team that is looking to rebuild one half of the team!

To recap, let’s go after football players first and scouting combine studs second.

by swg777 on Jan 23, 2009 3:44 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

I'm with you on reservations about Rey

which I’ll detail in a long-winded post coming soon, but just know that when you say “let’s go after football players first” I am totally with you.

I am Jack's unbridled optimism.

by SlamDunkTheFunk on Jan 23, 2009 5:56 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

While I appreciate your opinion...

I have a hard time buying into it. You don’t become a three time all Pac-10 first team-er, and Pac-10 defensive player of the year just because you are Samoan or a physical beast. I have to believe that you must be a football player, and odds are you’re probably a damn good one. But again, that’s just my opinion.

From there, I'd like to say that the wheels came off, but that wouldn't feel like an accurate description. The wheels didn't just magically come off, the Raiders all got out of the car, shot the wheels off the own car, busted out the taillights, smashed the windshield and poured Splenda in the gas tank. Then they all piled back inside and started screaming, "CAR WON'T MOVE, ME SAD NOW!" - MJD Yahoo Sports

by donbok1 on Jan 24, 2009 7:05 AM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Right...

and what was it again that made him overrated?

From there, I'd like to say that the wheels came off, but that wouldn't feel like an accurate description. The wheels didn't just magically come off, the Raiders all got out of the car, shot the wheels off the own car, busted out the taillights, smashed the windshield and poured Splenda in the gas tank. Then they all piled back inside and started screaming, "CAR WON'T MOVE, ME SAD NOW!" - MJD Yahoo Sports

by donbok1 on Jan 24, 2009 2:57 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

From Rotoworld's mock

6. Bengals – Boston College DT B.J. Raji

The Bengals coveted Sedrick Ellis last April and almost certainly would’ve drafted him ninth had New Orleans not traded up for Ellis at the No. 7 pick. Raji is an inch and 29 pounds bigger, and just as disruptive. Adding a widebody to pair with Domata Peko would clear lanes for LBs Keith Rivers and Dhani Jones to make plays, which is defensive coordinator Mike Zimmer’s ideal scenario.

12. Broncos – USC ILB Rey Maualuga

Denver needs a banger for the middle of its new 3-4. With DEs Elvis Dumervil and Jarvis Moss moving to outside linebacker, Maualuga (6’2/254) would set the tone up the gut while D.J. Williams makes plays sideline to sideline. Some early projections had Maualuga higher than this, but his stock took a slight hit after reporting to the Senior Bowl out of shape and failing to stand out in early practices.

Two things stick out…one BJ isn’t available at 12 and Erin Silva makes a strong argument why…two How does Rey show up to the Senior Bowl out of shape?? Isn’t this his chance to improve his stock?
 

"I am not trying to start anything I am just saying that i think if you take Knowshon and draft D later you guys will be hella good next year" ...IamtheGreatest - The smartest Chiefs fan I ever had the priviledge of reading!

by Steve O' on Jan 23, 2009 3:46 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

Scott Wright had some success with predictions last year

But this year he has the Bengals taking a LT, the Pack taking Orakpo, DE, and us taking Beanie – all with Raji, Rey and KM on the table. I think that’s stretching credibility, but what do I know?

In Goodman We Trust

by Emmett Smith on Jan 23, 2009 6:07 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

I read that one too...

and laughed.

From there, I'd like to say that the wheels came off, but that wouldn't feel like an accurate description. The wheels didn't just magically come off, the Raiders all got out of the car, shot the wheels off the own car, busted out the taillights, smashed the windshield and poured Splenda in the gas tank. Then they all piled back inside and started screaming, "CAR WON'T MOVE, ME SAD NOW!" - MJD Yahoo Sports

by donbok1 on Jan 24, 2009 6:54 AM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Maualuga by a MILE! How could you non-experts watching Rey possibly see what scouting, coaching experts dont?

BJ Raji is becoming Sr Bowl flavor of the month…last year is was Sedrick Ellis (USC). His miraculous rise from nowhere is being built on Sr Bowl hype stemming from scouts watching him operate in a vacuum. The BC game film on him would have never put him as a top 10 pick. Be careful what you wish for, with us moving to a 3-4, you might just get it?

Maualuga has been an incredible talent for over 2 years and could have gone pro last year and been just as hot a property as he is today. That proves his consistency and level of play, not to mention every offensive player on the field was scared to death of him. I’d rather get a serviceable NT via FA, and draft a player like Ron Brace in the 3rd. That’s the smart move.

I’d never pick a RB in the top 10, and I’d never wish for Jeremy Maclin at #12 either. He’s going to be a high priced return man. If you really want to wish for a playmaker, move up and grab Crabtree. Put him next to Marshall, and run Royal underneath like Wes Welker. Now you’ve got an offensive player who is truly worthy of a top 10 pick. Anything else MUST be defense.

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by Hogblog on Jan 23, 2009 6:56 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

Hogblog...what are your thoughts on what Erin Silva from Rotoworld said about Rey showing out of shape and failing to stand out?

"I am not trying to start anything I am just saying that i think if you take Knowshon and draft D later you guys will be hella good next year" ...IamtheGreatest - The smartest Chiefs fan I ever had the priviledge of reading!

by Steve O' on Jan 23, 2009 7:16 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Maualuga y Co.

This is from a few of the Senior Bowl blogs. I just did a cut and paste. In all, no one else mentioned him being out of shape, and I would have expected that to be news (if it was in a few that I missed, well and good). The knock against him is on-field discipline – a tendency to overpursue at times. He was one of the top 5 whose draft stock rose on Tuesday, so I’m not sure that being out of shape would create that. Cushing’s injury history is a black mark, but his work ths week has people speechless. Matthews is also going up fast. At any rate, here it is:

• Maualuga shows elite explosiveness||Maualuga showed good recognition, did not hesitate when reacting to the play and got downhill extremely quickly in USC’s win over Stanford. His explosiveness at the point of attack is elite. Maualuga is able to jolt blockers and run through ball carriers upon contact, and he is at his best when playing on the opponent’s side of the line of scrimmage. However, Maualuga showed vulnerability in the open field, sometimes leaving his feet in an effort to make a tackle and missing the ball carrier. His over-aggressiveness can get him into to trouble as he has a tendency to overrun plays and allow runners to cut back. A perfect example came on Stanford’s first possession of the game when Maualuga was unable to break down and contain Cardinal QB Tavita Pritchard, allowing Pritchard to cut back for a 40-yard gain and set up Stanford’s first touchdown of the game.

• MOBILE, Ala. — The temperature dipped nearly 20 degrees Tuesday, and swirling winds factored into both practices. It was the first of two days in which both teams will practice in full pads, and the intensity level was ratcheted up a few notches as a result.

• We have yet to reach the midway point of the 2009 Senior Bowl week, yet players are beginning to separate from the pack in positive and negative ways. Here’s a quick list of some of the early-week standouts from both rosters:

Biggest risers
1. Boston College DT B.J. Raji
2. Southern Miss TE Shawn Nelson
3. USC linebackers Rey Maualuga, Brian Cushing and Clay Matthews
4. Western Michigan S Louis Delmas
5. California C Alex Mack

• The South team’s second day of practice at the 2009 Under Armour Senior Bowl was notable for a few reasons, including USC linebackers running wild, a Clemson QB frustrating scouts and an LSU lineman’s surprising struggles.

• • USC’s Brian Cushing is the rare prospect who will fit in any defensive scheme in the NFL. He can play inside or outside in either a 3-4 or 4-3. Very few linebackers have that ability. Where he looked best, though, was over the tight end as a strongside linebacker in the 4-3. His body type, power and aggression lend well to doing battle with opposing tight ends. For a taller linebacker, he gets low and is not a leverage liability. He showed quick hips turning and running with the tight ends. The one area in which he didn’t look quite as comfortable was in his read-and-react skills while working in zone coverage. But overall, Cushing’s wide skill set drastically reduces his draft-bust factor. If anyone here is a great fit for New England, it’s Cushing.

• • Cushing’s teammate at USC, Clay Matthews, continues to be extremely impressive. He bends very well and always seems to be in proper football position. His change of direction is abrupt yet smooth. As an edge rusher, he did not lose speed bending the corner and got his shoulder low to the ground, making him very difficult to block. His pad level is consistently exceptional and he is an excellent hit-on-the-rise player who makes contact with the same leg and shoulder when taking on blocks. Matthews is very fundamentally sound but also very athletic. He would be an immediate demon on special teams while learning the linebacker position at the NFL level. At this point, it won’t surprise us if the USC trio of Cushing, Matthews and Rey Maualuga are all off the board in the first 40 picks.

In Goodman We Trust

by Emmett Smith on Jan 23, 2009 8:41 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

Good enough for me...

"I am not trying to start anything I am just saying that i think if you take Knowshon and draft D later you guys will be hella good next year" ...IamtheGreatest - The smartest Chiefs fan I ever had the priviledge of reading!

by Steve O' on Jan 23, 2009 8:52 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Wait...is it from a USC blog? It kinda seems a little Southern Cal heavy??

"I am not trying to start anything I am just saying that i think if you take Knowshon and draft D later you guys will be hella good next year" ...IamtheGreatest - The smartest Chiefs fan I ever had the priviledge of reading!

by Steve O' on Jan 23, 2009 8:54 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Steve

That’s because SoCal has three standout, 1st round LBs in the Senior Bowl. Several sources have been talking aout each of them all week long. Even those that were concerned about Rey’s conditioning ( he didn’t have an agent, didn’t see the Bowl as necessary to his draft stock is might have been right) agree that by the end of the week he was a terror. Better scouts look at the film of a players ‘body of work’ as it were – Maualuga’s is very good. Cushing was a monster this week and had a great season. Matthews has played DE (and OLB) with great power and effectiveness and continued that in the Bowl practices, so you’d kind of have to mention that. I’ve read quite a few Senior Bowl blogs. Nearly every one lauded all three USC players.

In Goodman We Trust

by Emmett Smith on Jan 24, 2009 12:56 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

I saw early in the week

on NFLN’s coverage that they had Rey playing OLB and blitzing from the outside (which apparently isn’t his strong suit).

That seems irresponsible for the senior bowl coaches to change the position of a player from where they normally play and do things that they aren’t used to doing.

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by DesertBroncoFan on Jan 27, 2009 3:45 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Cushing = Scary dude...

and while I’d love to be all over the Broncos taking him, his injury history makes me more than a little nervous.

From there, I'd like to say that the wheels came off, but that wouldn't feel like an accurate description. The wheels didn't just magically come off, the Raiders all got out of the car, shot the wheels off the own car, busted out the taillights, smashed the windshield and poured Splenda in the gas tank. Then they all piled back inside and started screaming, "CAR WON'T MOVE, ME SAD NOW!" - MJD Yahoo Sports

by donbok1 on Jan 24, 2009 7:07 AM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Thanks for the post Broncobear...Im not a USC bandwaggoner, in fact Im a huge SEC guy. I have watched Maualuga over the past years, and just think he's the best LB in the draft. He reminds me of Romanowski w/o the roids!!!!!

And…I do like Raji! I am a bit skeptical about his meteoric rise, unlike the USC linebackers who have been highly rated over the past 2 years. They’re very good and project well in the NFL. I really like Clay Matthews in a 3-4 coming off the edge. Kid’s got a big motor.

I like Laurinitis too! He’s seems like a pedestrian version of Maualuga. I think he’d better much better (DJ/Woodyard excluded) than what we have, but I really believe we can address Dline via FA and focus on LB,S,DB,DT,DE,RB,WR,C,OT in the draft.

Remember, Im not a USC/PAC 10 fan. Im a SEC-Razorback fanatic! So its not like Im biased for Rey Rey!

"Attitude reflects Leadership" Hogblog...aka KSM

by Hogblog on Jan 23, 2009 9:20 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

Raji..

If he’s available.

If not, Moreno.

by Hobnail_Boot on Jan 24, 2009 4:37 AM MST reply actions   0 recs

Thank you!!

"I am not trying to start anything I am just saying that i think if you take Knowshon and draft D later you guys will be hella good next year" ...IamtheGreatest - The smartest Chiefs fan I ever had the priviledge of reading!

by Steve O' on Jan 24, 2009 10:28 AM MST up reply actions   0 recs

trade down......

We need more than 1 player…….. DT,MLB,FS,SS, Sounds like Raji will be gone.

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by scottwchicago on Jan 24, 2009 9:41 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

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