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Tales: The Hunger of Sammie Lee Hill

"…pick of the draft, the 325 lb. DE from football powerhouse Stillman, Sammie Lee Hill!"

Say what?

You bet. In an innovation that worked beyond their hopes, Greg Thompson, head coach of the Stillman football program, spoke to Dennis Conner, his OC, and they decided to try something new on defense. Their answer was Sammie Lee Hill, a very big, very versatile player with a lot of skills.

'I think I announced it at the press conference,' Thompson said. 'I knew he was a defensive player.'

Why wouldn’t he be? Mostly, because he could have been the next Shaq O’Neal. He had serious skills as a basketball player. And for all his size, Sammie Lee can jump. He can also play linebacker and tight end. He even played kicker. Oh, yes, and a little DT. So, why the move to DE?

Star-divide

Defensive coordinator Dennis Conner first had the idea. When Thompson took over as HC, Conner spoke to him and they decided that placing Hill to the outside would let him avoid double-teams and take ½ the field away from the running game. With Hill’s speed, he would always make it over to seal the outside.

“He was also a heck of a basketball player,” Conner said. “He's got good feet and good agility for his size.”

But it was on an extra-point attempt that Hill made the vast extent of his skills plain.

'He was the up-back on the PAT team,' Thompson said. 'We muffed the ball, and the kicker just threw it up blindly. Sammie reached back with his left hand and snagged the ball. Then he ran over two defenders for a two-point conversion.'

When asked if the experiment as a 325 lb. DE is working, Hill replied, “Yes, sir, I do. There's a lot less running the ball my way. They do not run the ball my way, pretty much.” Hill holds Warren Sapp has the player he models his game after. It’s a good place to start.

You might have caught the ‘sir’ in Hill’s response. It’s a normal part of his speech. Sammie Lee Hill was taught manners early by his momma, Gloria Hill, while growing up in West Blocton, Alabama.

“She's a caterer and the best cook in the world,” Hill said. “There's no way I got to be 325 pounds by looking at somebody else cook. I learned to feed myself at an early age.” It’s not all he learned.

He learned from her that character counts. He believes that this will matter when draft scouts look at his film and look at his record of achievements. This was his response when asked if he approved of Roger Goodell’s approach to minimal tolerance:

“Yes, sir, because if you are presenting money, a lot of money, to these players, character does play a big role. I'm sure that he doesn't want to go out there and pay these players all that money just so they can mess it up. I think that he's been handling it really well.”

Hill doesn’t let his beliefs stay on as a lot of easy talk. He is willing to put his life on the line for them. In fact, he already has. Hill and two other Stillman players were heading back to campus when they saw flames and smoke coming from a house. A young woman was frantically trying to flag down help. When they backed up and stopped, Cassandra Webb told them that her father, Curtis Webb Sr., was inside. Hill tells it this way:

“Sure enough, there was a lady outside saying that her father needs help. All we could do was put our hands over our faces and hope that we didn't get hurt. We looked up, and, well, it was a blessing that we could grab him and protect ourselves so we all were safe. We all grabbed hold of him and carried him out of the house. It's not a situation I ever thought I would be in, but that's the way I was raised. I was happy I did it.”

Hill added, “There was a lot of media and press coming around after that happened. It was OK. I felt like I didn't need all that, because I would want somebody to do the same thing for my father or mother in the same situation. God blessed us in that situation. If it was me and my parents were in that situation, I would want somebody to help me.”

When asked where he learned those values, his answer was simple. His momma taught him the values he lives in his life. Whatever happens this spring, Hill will always be successful because he’s successful as a man.

Hill, majored in health and secondary education, plans to graduate in May. He knows NFL scouts are watching his progress.

“My approach to my senior year (was) that I want to put in a lot of hard work and effort into what I'm doing, playing football and being a student, too,' Hill said. 'Being here made me better and more mature. I grew up at lot at Stillman. It made me into the man I think I'm going to be in the next couple of years.”

Maybe it did. But his upbringing made him into the man he will always be. So, if a team decides that they want a huge, run-stuffing DE with basketball jumps, linebacker feet, TE hands, ST skills and a mean jump shot, they might want to see if Sammie Hill is still on the board. He knows that being from a small school will play against him. Why did he go there?

“I was overlooked by a whole lot of schools, so my Defensive Coordinator kept calling and calling and that was the last place…(it was) my last chance to get a full school scholarship and play football in college.”

Hill was about 270 coming out of high school and some didn’t expect him to keep right on growing. He seems to be a little bit of a late bloomer. And now?

“6'4, about 325, and around a 5.00 flat.” Glenn Dorsey had a 5.2 40.

Hill is comfortable with the thought of playing the 3-4 or the 4-3, and at DE, DT or NT. Or tight end, for that matter. And although he’s at peace with the factors that weigh against him; coming from a small school and with a short record at his unusual position, he expects to be successful at the next level. Why?

“For my size, I have tremendous athletic ability, I would say. I am hungry to play NFL Football.” That’s a powerful statement from a man who clearly knows a lot about hunger.

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"Be not like dumb-driven cattle...."

by jcps on Jan 27, 2009 11:20 AM MST reply actions  

Very interesting

does anybody know where this guy is projeced come april?

by BryGoodland on Jan 27, 2009 11:25 AM MST reply actions  

Mostly around the 3rd

As you know, mock drafts can be all over the board, as are ratings. I’ve seen him from the 2nd (one guy) to the 5th.

In Goodman We Trust

by Doc Bear on Jan 27, 2009 11:36 AM MST up reply actions  

Great post!

Beware the wrath of a patient adversary.

John C. Calhoun --

by bcfunk on Jan 27, 2009 11:32 AM MST reply actions  

Thanks Broncobear

I had looked up Hill and I thought he definately is an intriguing prospect, I think he will be available round 2 to 3 and he may end up being a better player than some more hearalded guys.

"Me fail english, that unpossible" - Ralph Wiggum
"Duffman is thrusting in the direction of the problem" - Duffman

by Broncoman on Jan 27, 2009 11:38 AM MST reply actions  

Great post.

Hope he goes to the combine.

by precisiontint on Jan 27, 2009 11:40 AM MST reply actions  

Doc, you are amazing!

You come up with great stories on great players. Thanks for all your work. The kid looks like a real keeper and he certainly fits the Goodman standard for character.

It all starts in the trenches HT 11/11/08

by firstfan on Jan 27, 2009 11:43 AM MST reply actions  

Thanks, firstfan

One thing I really enjoy about athletics is their ability to be a positive influence in young men’s lives. There are so many great stories that I’m glad to be able to pass them on.

In Goodman We Trust

by Doc Bear on Jan 27, 2009 12:09 PM MST reply actions  

Y'all do realize

that between now and the draft every player one of us does a write up on is going to sound like a keeper. Let’s hope at least one of them is just what we need at DE or, especially, NT, and that he’s on Denver’s radar. I can’t help wondering, given Hill’s size and agility, if he has the instincts to be a successful nose tackle. I realize his coach put him outside to avoid double teams, but for us it might be even more important if he’s available and willing to take them on. We might not know which of the guys who get written up here truly has the potential to lead us to the promised land, but it’s fun looking for diamonds in the rough. Keep those stories coming!

"In the empty spaces - lacunae, vacuums, pauses, voids, black holes - new things begin. We are born anew from the unexplored space, the badlands, the outlaw territory." - Sam Keen

by spock on Jan 27, 2009 12:10 PM MST reply actions  

Even if we just get one or two of these guys we're crazy about would be awesome!

And if he didn’t make it at NT, then simply move him outside, and best of all, it wouldn’t be our first round, #12 pick overall that didn’t pan out the way we had hoped.

From there, I'd like to say that the wheels came off, but that wouldn't feel like an accurate description. The wheels didn't just magically come off, the Raiders all got out of the car, shot the wheels off the own car, busted out the taillights, smashed the windshield and poured Splenda in the gas tank. Then they all piled back inside and started screaming, "CAR WON'T MOVE, ME SAD NOW!" - MJD Yahoo Sports

by donbok1 on Jan 27, 2009 8:21 PM MST up reply actions  

Great Post Bear

Lets keep finding these Diamonds, as spock says……..

I see said the Blind man to the Deaf man who was near.
What is it you hear when I speak in your ear.

by UB3 on Jan 27, 2009 12:52 PM MST reply actions  

Great Post

He sounds like a stand up kid with his head on his shoulders. If we switch to a 3-4 then we should really look at this kid in the 3rd or 4th round because we will need a NT.

by gnarlybroncodude on Jan 27, 2009 1:36 PM MST reply actions  

Hill sounds like a good NT.

But the thing is, I think that BJ Raji should be our NT. I know that the NT is a hard position to find and it needs a good back-up which is what I want Hill to be. If we could get BJ Raji in the first round then we should take Sammie Hill for our back-up. He might get tired of not playing so put him at the DE spot…it sounds like he is very agile and could be a DE/OLB hybrid sort of player. I’m getting excited about next year already!!! :)

by broncoholic on Jan 27, 2009 2:16 PM MST reply actions  

Good point, Broncoholic

It sounds like there could be a lot of interest in Raji and only 1 team wll get him. If it’s us, also getting a huge DE with light feet who could back up at NT isn’t the worst idea I’ve heard floated. Thanks!

In Goodman We Trust

by Doc Bear on Jan 27, 2009 5:08 PM MST up reply actions  

I watched Raji do zilch in the Senior Bowl

He would cost a #1 pick; I’d rather have this guy later. I pasted the following review of Raji’s performance in the Senior Bowl from FOXSports, and I agree with it.

B.J. Raji, DT, Boston College
The defensive standout for the North team at practice this week was Boston College DT B.J. Raji. The consistency he maintained this week was incredible, as he had his way with two of the top centers in the country: Oregon’s Max Unger and Cal’s Alex Mack. Raji’s quickness off the snap and ability to penetrate inside created problems during practice for the North’s offense.
But on Saturday night, when Raji faced the South’s offensive line, it was a different story. The South’s offensive line neutralized Raji and didn’t allow him to be much of a factor. Even though Raji didn’t have a breakthrough performance during the game, the dominance he displayed all week did wonders for his draft positioning, and he is now a lock to be a top-15 selection.

"Be not like dumb-driven cattle...."

by jcps on Jan 27, 2009 5:38 PM MST up reply actions  

Jack Del Rio

Jack did a hell of a job of game-planning to take out Raji. That doesn’t reflect badly on Raji as much as some are saying – it was a single game, he did his job and drew and held the double teams. If you game-plan better to free him up and get him one on one you might have a very different story.

That’s why it’s more important to watch a lot of film on a player – everyone has one bad performance, especially if the opposing coach wins his better with your DC. I understand why folks are disappointed, but that game should be kept in perspective.

In Goodman We Trust

by Doc Bear on Jan 27, 2009 6:44 PM MST up reply actions  

Good point...

the main job of the NT is to command and hold up against the double team. As long as he consistently draws the double team, and doesn’t allow big runs through his gaps, then he’s done his job. A good NT in the 3-4 isn’t going to be flashy or get a lot of attention if he does his job right. If he does end up with a 1-1 situation, avoiding the double team, then he needs to dominate, and this is what Raji showed during the practices.

He’s a solid prospect, and with the #12 pick.

Frack, frackin' fracker!

by BornOrange on Jan 27, 2009 11:56 PM MST up reply actions  

Get Raji one on one?

Your analysis, broncobear, puts a different spin on Raji’s performance. But why would we want “to free him up and get him one on one” if we draft him and install him at nose tackle? Isn’t the nose tackle supposed to tie up two players? Isn’t that the point? Your comment reminds us that nose tackles don’t ordinarily look good in conventional terms, and that we shouldn’t have expected Raji to look like a dominant one-gapper if he was playing two-gap. It reminds us of what constitutes effectiveness for a two-gapper. And it helps us be more knowledgeable in our evaluations of potential NT picks. It’s already caused me to question my initial assessment
of his performance in the Senior Bowl.

"In the empty spaces - lacunae, vacuums, pauses, voids, black holes - new things begin. We are born anew from the unexplored space, the badlands, the outlaw territory." - Sam Keen

by spock on Jan 28, 2009 12:50 AM MST up reply actions  

LB Blitz

It’s true – you need to look at whether he got a double team, whether he handled them by tying them up and whether he was supposed to be doubleteamed according to the plays theHC or DC drew up. And, even then, a NT will have certain plays where, by happenstance of design, such a a ILB blitz, he will get a 1 on 1, and in that context it’s nice to know that Raji dominated often against good players and has a better chance of getting a sack or a loss of yardage if they go to a RB.

In Goodman We Trust

by Doc Bear on Jan 28, 2009 1:07 AM MST up reply actions  

Tales: is by far one of my favorite segments

I love the insight! This isn’t a look a player, it’s a look into a person…Great Post Doc…and this isn’t just rec’d reading for Bronco fans, it’s rec’d reading for all sports fans!!

Thank you!

"I am not trying to start anything I am just saying that i think if you take Knowshon and draft D later you guys will be hella good next year" ...IamtheGreatest - The smartest Chiefs fan I ever had the priviledge of reading!

by Steve O' on Jan 27, 2009 3:56 PM MST reply actions  

Doc, this is way better

than anything the MSM comes up with. I get tired of reading the same recycled news about a handful of obvious draft picks. This is what makes the draft REALLY interesting.

by SlowWhiteGuy on Jan 27, 2009 3:59 PM MST reply actions  

Thanks, guys

I like all of the research, but finding these stories really is a blast. I’m glad you enjoy them too.

In Goodman We Trust

by Doc Bear on Jan 27, 2009 5:09 PM MST up reply actions  

Hmmm...

A 6-4 325 pound guy with 5.00 (or even 5.2) speed? Even as raw as he is, that’s a dude with serious upside. I would not hesitate to spend a 4th or 5th round pick on him (around where he’s expected to go).
I would not, however, draft him with the expectation that we could, or even necessarily should play him at NT.
I know that I definitely wouldn’t trust him to be our starting NT- or even the guy we hope pans out as our starting NT.

by jack_ on Jan 27, 2009 5:09 PM MST reply actions  

His short writeup on NFL draft scout

Draft Scout Snapshot: DS Rating on 8/24/08: #17 DT, #225/750 Overall, Projected Rnd: 6-7
2009 East-West Shrine All-Star Bowl invite…2007: 10 GP; 10 GS; 29 Sol-52 TT, 14 TFL, 4.5 SK, 1 INT, 3 PBU, 1 QBH, 1 FR, 4 FF; First team All-SIAC. Helped pull a man from a burning house in August 2007…2006: 10 GP; 10 GS; 15 Sol-41 TT, 9 TFL, 2 SK, 1 INT, 3 PBU, 3 QBH…2005: 9 GP; 9 GS; 13 Sol-39 TT, 6 TFL, 3.5 SK, 3 QBH…2004: Redshirted ’04.

The emphasis is mine, but the words aren’t. A 6th round pick on a huge guy who can move and pulled a man from a burning house!?! Yes please!

by jack_ on Jan 27, 2009 5:14 PM MST up reply actions  

Cooney's evaluation

Frank Cooney’s Draft Scout has his draft range as anywhere between: mid-3rd to late-6th, with the 6th being the suggested round, around pick #186.

He’s a project so we shouldn’t get too excited about those metrics, but if you’re willing to wait for him to develop then he has the dreaded ‘P’ word — P-O-T-E-N-T-I-A-L.

Some of the other quality draft sites have him around the same range; WalterFootball has him as round 4-5, and Scott Wright has him as the 23rd DT, which is probably around the 6th or 7th round — fairly late, although he’s ranking rather than projecting draft position.

I’ve been aware of Hill for a while and I’m intrigued, however, I’d be just as happy to see some other talented prospects with a few less pounds get some of the attention they deserve in the DLs discussion. I’d prefer building up a player with superior talent and the right frame for the NT position. Hill’s projected more as a DE rather than a true NT, so his value is a little less and there are many prospects that could play DE. It would be a different story if he were a a true NT.

PS — I’d like to see some leg strength. I think Terrance Taylor bombed in this senior year but I’m still very interested in him because of that leg strength.

by Colinski on Jan 28, 2009 9:20 PM MST up reply actions  

Or a 3rd or 4th.

Remember – this guy can move and he is a pretty interesting DE as well as a potential DT. If we just use him as a DE, that’s not a bad option. He’s small school and some will wonder about his ability to transfer that to the nfl, but Herr Goodman will be watching a ton of film. Might get interesting. I do prefer character – in the locker room and in tough games, it matters

In Goodman We Trust

by Doc Bear on Jan 27, 2009 6:47 PM MST reply actions  

Small School

Isn’t Kutztown considered a small school? I believe the last defensive player we got from there worked out pretty well for us…

"It's all over Fat Man" - Tom Jackson to John Madden 1977 AFC Championship Game

"tough times don't last, tough people do" - Mike "The Mastermind" Shanahan

by DesertBroncoFan on Jan 28, 2009 9:06 AM MST up reply actions  

He could be a good leader for this team...

I know that a lineman usually isn’t a leader of the team…but this guy seems like he would be a good leader. I hope we pick him up.

by broncoholic on Jan 27, 2009 6:48 PM MST reply actions  

Very Encouraging

A big ole Alabama boy with great character – he sounds like he could be a shrewed pick. Great post Bear!

by PigskinProphet on Jan 27, 2009 7:21 PM MST reply actions  

Great job, great kid...

really hope one of these good player/good citizen types is in orange and blue next year. Thanks bear for taking the time. Again, great job.

From there, I'd like to say that the wheels came off, but that wouldn't feel like an accurate description. The wheels didn't just magically come off, the Raiders all got out of the car, shot the wheels off the own car, busted out the taillights, smashed the windshield and poured Splenda in the gas tank. Then they all piled back inside and started screaming, "CAR WON'T MOVE, ME SAD NOW!" - MJD Yahoo Sports

by donbok1 on Jan 27, 2009 8:25 PM MST reply actions  

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