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HOF Voters' email addresses, in list form

Thanks again, Ted for the terrific post re:MSM and the travesty that is the Pro Football HOF Selection Process. I just thought I'd help everyone out by correcting a few e-mail addresses and putting them into a list form so that everyone can just copy the list, paste it into an e-mail, and send away!

A few suggestions for the crew...

  1. Please do not misspell Shannon Sharpe's name, ever. That alone would have to discredit whatever your message is, to some extent. These are writers we're contacting here.
  2. Likewise, be extra careful with your grammar and the rest of your spelling. If I were a professional writer, I would be a little quicker to dismiss a message from someone who can't spell or write properly.
  3. Here is a list of Broncos HOF snubs for you to copy and paste... Floyd Little, Karl Mecklenburg, Terrell Davis, Randy Gradishar, Louis Wright, Steve Atwater, Dennis Smith
  4. Try your best not to belittle the writers, question their football knowledge, or threaten them in any manner. You can question their knowledge of the Denver Broncos, but I doubt that questioning their football acumen will get us very far. As much as we disrespect this folks, we must be respectful to get our point across.
  5. Be sure to mention that John Clayton himself, said on the Mike & Mike in the Morning that some voters are considering Sharpe's candidacy with the idea that Sharpe was a WR, so that you don't get replies saying "What makes you think this is happening?"

Here are some facts to toss at the voters...

  1. The Broncos have Elway and Zimmerman in, and that’s it. Two Broncos, plus it should be noted that Zim was as much a Viking as a Bronco.
  2. The Broncos have appeared in 6 Super Bowls, exceeded only by Pittsburgh and Dallas. Yet, they have 2 HOFers while Dallas has 10 and Pittsburgh has 17.
  3. The Oilers/Titans and Chargers each have 7 despite one SB appearance each and no titles. Both franchises were formed in 1960, same as Denver, and both have 5 more HOFers than Denver despite significantly lower levels of NFL success.
  4. The only franchises with fewer than 4 Hall of Famers are Denver (2), New Orleans, Cincinnati and Seattle with 1, while Jacksonville, Baltimore, Houston, Carolina and Atlanta have none.
  5. The Patriots have 4 HOFers from their pre-2001 years. So where are the Broncos' pre-1997 HOFers?
  6. The Detroit Lions have 3 Super Bowl-Era HOFers despite ZERO conference championships.
  7. Shannon retired as the NFL's all-time leader as a tight end with 815 receptions, 10,060 yards and 62 touchdown catches
  8. Shannon was a part of 13 playoff wins and 3 Super Bowl Titles, including 11-straight playoff wins at one point. Correction - Sharpe was part of 12-straight playoff wins from 1998 to 2001.
  9. Explain that if Shannon was not a half-decent blocker, Mike Shanahan would not have let him get on the field as much as he did. Shanny said so himself.
  10. Shannon was an 8-time Pro Bowler & 4-time first-team All-Pro

Star-divide

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Peter King - http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2009/writers/peter_king/01/25/walkup/index.html
Alex Marvez - http://msn.foxsports.com/writer/Alex-Marvez-FOXSports.com-Senior-NFL-Writer?authorId=309
Detroit, Tom Kowalski, Booth Newspapers   http://www.mlive.com/lions/weblog/email_author.html
Nick Canepa, San Diego Union Tribune  http://www3.signonsandiego.com/staff/nick-canepa/contact/
David Elfin - http://www.washtimes.com/staff/david-elfin/contact/
John Czarnecki – http://msn.foxsports.com/writer/John-Czarnecki-FOXSports.com-Senior-NFL-Writer?authorId=211
Pasquarelli ??
Paul Zimmerman - FYI, he's had a few strokes recently and is busy rehabbing and recovering. Obviously, he will not be voting tomorrow.

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did I misspell Sharpe's name?

Oh shit! I did…..I was so angry I typed furiously and messed it up. lmao

This is my GAP, there are many like it but this one is mine. Without my GAP I am useless, without me, they will run through my GAP. I will protect my GAP and have my brothers back on his. I will not be moved from my GAP, I am a crazed dog that patrols this area and will defeat all who entire it. I own this GAP, it is mine. I bought it with blood and sweat. I will not be pushed. I will not be moved. This Sunday I will make a stand and a statement.

by Tim Lynch on Jan 30, 2009 9:08 AM MST reply actions  

I am a hothead...what can I say. Thanks for discrediting me. :)

This is my GAP, there are many like it but this one is mine. Without my GAP I am useless, without me, they will run through my GAP. I will protect my GAP and have my brothers back on his. I will not be moved from my GAP, I am a crazed dog that patrols this area and will defeat all who entire it. I own this GAP, it is mine. I bought it with blood and sweat. I will not be pushed. I will not be moved. This Sunday I will make a stand and a statement.

by Tim Lynch on Jan 30, 2009 9:08 AM MST up reply actions  

Hey, I did to to myself. lmao

This is my GAP, there are many like it but this one is mine. Without my GAP I am useless, without me, they will run through my GAP. I will protect my GAP and have my brothers back on his. I will not be moved from my GAP, I am a crazed dog that patrols this area and will defeat all who entire it. I own this GAP, it is mine. I bought it with blood and sweat. I will not be pushed. I will not be moved. This Sunday I will make a stand and a statement.

by Tim Lynch on Jan 30, 2009 10:08 AM MST up reply actions  

It's ok, Zappa

I for one cannot spell eitehr!

(or type for that matter)

by tunga77 on Jan 30, 2009 9:36 AM MST up reply actions  

JOHN CLAYTON DIDN'T SAY SHARPE IS A WR

He didn’t say he should be looked at as a Wide Receiver. He said, that because of the changes int he position, he would have to be looked at in the same light as other “pass catchers” because many of his Hall of Fame merits are based on those numbers. I think the main problem Clayton has, and it isn’t necessarily with Shannon Sharpe, is the fact Cris Carter, the NFL’s #2 All-Time WR didn’t get in last year.

As NYC stated above, Sharpe had to be able to block or he wouldn’t see the field, and the Broncos have more rushing yards than anyone since 1995.

The big point I have made when talking to these columnists is this. If they are thinking that Tony Gonzalez is a first-ballot HOF’er when he is done, then Sharpe HAS TO BE. PERIOD!

-TSG

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by John Bena on Jan 30, 2009 9:18 AM MST reply actions  

Understood Guru, but that’s not what I wrote.

by Douglas A. Lee on Jan 30, 2009 9:21 AM MST up reply actions  

Be sure to mention that John Clayton himself, said on the Mike & Mike in the Morning that some voters are considering Sharpe’s candidacy with the idea that Sharpe was a WR, so that you don’t get replies saying “What makes you think this is happening?”

That’s not what I heard him say….

He said, “I think he will fall short. Not in the long run, but the #2 WR didn’t get in the first year, the #2 TE, who was a pass catcher, now I think has to be matched up with the other pass catchers, Obviously, Cris Carter has more catches, Andre Reed has more catches than Sharpe. I think it will take a few years, not out of the question Sharpe gets in the first year, I still think it won’t be this year, though.”

He also talks about wanting Cortez Kennedy to get in(12 Pro Bowls, blah blah) as well as Randall McDaniel and John Randle.

Do I agree with him?? NOT AT ALL. He said NOTHING about what other writers were doing, horsetrading, etc. NOTHING. He was asked an opinion and gave it.

-TSG

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by John Bena on Jan 30, 2009 9:39 AM MST up reply actions  

There is also this fascination with...

how many players from a particular position get in during a given season. I remember last year that Adam Schefter and Rod Woodson were getting into a heated debate about Cris Carter being left out because there would be another WR going in. WHO CARES! Clayton obsessed about Carter and possibly Andre Reed getting in, so there is no way a pass-catching TE could get in too.

It is these types of obsessions that sports writers have that bother me to no end.

-TSG

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by John Bena on Jan 30, 2009 9:21 AM MST up reply actions  

That is the point I was trying to make to these guys...

Vito told me that Sharpe rarely blocked so one could make the argument that he was more of a WR than a TE. Where is this myth that Sharpe rarely blocked coming from?!?!?!?!?

This is my GAP, there are many like it but this one is mine. Without my GAP I am useless, without me, they will run through my GAP. I will protect my GAP and have my brothers back on his. I will not be moved from my GAP, I am a crazed dog that patrols this area and will defeat all who entire it. I own this GAP, it is mine. I bought it with blood and sweat. I will not be pushed. I will not be moved. This Sunday I will make a stand and a statement.

by Tim Lynch on Jan 30, 2009 10:09 AM MST up reply actions  

Now That...

Is complete BS….Sharpe wasn’t a good blocker when he came to the Broncos, but was told very quickly that he would have to become one if he wanted to play…..

-TSG

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by John Bena on Jan 30, 2009 10:11 AM MST up reply actions  

It's that misconception.

“Oh, he catches a lot of passes, so he must not be good at blocking. What, he isn’t? Well, that can’t possibly be true, look at all those passes he caught. What? Look at some game film on it? But… but that would require work. No, I’ll just run with it and say he was a bad blocker.”

If Shannon doesn’t get in, I raise Hell. Period.

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by papigrande on Jan 30, 2009 2:44 PM MST up reply actions  

I am raising hell now...if he doesn't get in they will reap the whirlwind.

This is my GAP, there are many like it but this one is mine. Without my GAP I am useless, without me, they will run through my GAP. I will protect my GAP and have my brothers back on his. I will not be moved from my GAP, I am a crazed dog that patrols this area and will defeat all who entire it. I own this GAP, it is mine. I bought it with blood and sweat. I will not be pushed. I will not be moved. This Sunday I will make a stand and a statement.

by Tim Lynch on Jan 30, 2009 3:08 PM MST up reply actions  

In my opinion

Shannon was an average to slightly above average blocker at the line of scrimmage. He was an outstanding downfield blocker. Many a long run by a Bronco running back was due to his excellent blocks down field.

It all starts in the trenches HT 11/11/08

by firstfan on Jan 31, 2009 12:00 AM MST up reply actions  

Your last statement sums it all up Guru.

The big point I have made when talking to these columnists is this. If they are thinking that Tony Gonzalez is a first-ballot HOF’er when he is done, then Sharpe HAS TO BE. PERIOD!

I mean it was Sharpe’s records that Tony Gonzalez has been breaking lately. Not only did Sharpe help the Broncos to win two Super Bowls, he did the same for the Ravens.

"It doesn't dissipate" ~ Mike Shanahan

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by weazel on Jan 30, 2009 7:20 PM MST up reply actions  

Here is my e-mail to the HOF Voters...

Unfortunately, Cliff Christl is apparently no longer writing at the Journal-Sentinel, so his e-mail was not delivered. I’ll remove him from the above list. Anyway, here goes…

Dear Pro Football Hall of Fame Voter,

I am writing to you with the utmost respect for your craft and the work that you do. You are obviously a Hall Voter for some very good reasons, and I am not about to question them or doubt your competency as a football writer. However, I am going to question your knowledge in regards to the Denver Broncos and I hope to point out a few facts that you may or may not know about their history.

First of all, the Denver Broncos have existed as a professional football franchise since 1960, and have appeared in six Super Bowls. Only the Dallas Cowboys and Pittsburgh Steelers have been to more Super Bowls than the Broncos, the Cowboys eight and the Steelers will play in their seventh this Sunday. However, Denver has only 2 Hall of Famers, while the Cowboys have 10 and the Steelers have 17. Something here does not add up. Yes, the Cowboys and Steelers have been more dynastic than the Broncos, but the relative number of Hall of Famers for these franchises would suggest that Denver is hardly a decent franchise.

When compared to their AFL peers, things are even stranger. The Houston Oilers/Tennessee Titans and San Diego Chargers each have 7 Hall of Famers despite one SB appearance each and zero titles. Both franchises were formed in 1960, same as Denver, and both have 5 more HOFers than Denver despite significantly lower levels of NFL success. How, would you suppose, does this make any sense, whatsoever?

Excepting franchises formed in the last two decades (Houston, Carolina, Jacksonville, Baltimore), only New Orleans, Seattle, Cincinatti and Atlanta have fewer Hall of Famers than Denver. Every other franchise has at least 4 Hall of Famers, which happens to be double the amount Denver has. Again, I’d like to know how the Broncos have been lumped in with the Saints, Seahawks, Bengals and Falcons, which happen to be historically the worst franchises in the NFL. The Detroit Lions have never won a Conference Championship, and therefore have zero Super Bowl appearances. Yet, they somehow have 3 Super Bowl-Era Hall of Famers. Can you explain this to me?

I believe there are quite a few Broncos who belong in the HOF who are not already – Floyd Little, Karl Mecklenburg, Terrell Davis, Randy Gradishar, Louis Wright, Steve Atwater, Dennis Smith. Obviously, I am a Denver Broncos fan. But this e-mail is about one candidacy specifically – that of Shannon Sharpe, TE. Your esteemed peer John Clayton was on Mike & Mike in the Morning earlier this week, and he said that some voters are considering Sharpe as a pass-catcher and therefore putting him in line behind the likes of Cris Carter and Andre Reed, two wide receivers who own zero Super Bowl Rings between them. Here’s the problem – Shannon Sharpe was a tight end, and an exceptional one at that. He retired as the finest receiving tight end in the history of the National Football League, with 815 receptions, 10,060 yards and 62 touchdown catches. No, he was not a wide receiver – he was a tight end. The Denver Broncos had Anthony Miller, Rod Smith and Ed McCaffrey to play wide receiver. Shannon lined up at the end of the offensive line for the most part, just like every other tight end in NFL history. He was not the greatest blocker in the NFL, not by a long stretch. But before you start to discount his career because he wasn’t a great blocker, consider these two things – first of all, Mike Shanahan would never have allowed Sharpe to play as much as he did were he not a willing and able blocker. Secondly, you must consider that the Broncos during Shannon’s career were one of the, if not the preeminent rushing team(s) in the NFL. This would never have been accomplished with a tight end who was either unwilling or unable to block. So please, don’t let that all-catch and no-block myth attached to Shannon’s name sway you.

Shannon Sharpe was the premier tight end in the NFL throughout his career. Not only that, but Shannon was a leader and a winner. Shannon was a significant part of teams that won 13 playoff games, including a stretch of 11-straight between 1998 and 2001. Shannon also won 3 Super Bowl Rings. Shannon was an 8-time Pro Bowler & 4-time first-team All-Pro. Yes, you and your peers voted Shannon to the First All-Pro Team 4 times, while you voted Cris Carter to that same honor just twice and Andre Reed never. So, you and your peers already have shown more appreciation for Shannon’s accomplishments than you have for either Carter or Reed. Do not stop now, and please show some consistency.

I can honestly say that Denver Broncos fans everywhere consider the Pro Football Hall of Fame and its Selection Process to be quite flawed. In fact, many of us believe that the Broncos’ relative lack of inclusion when compared with other franchises (many of them lesser) in some way illegitimizes the HOF. When you take the above facts into consideration, I think it’s quite easy to see why we feel that way. I hope you will take my words and thoughts into that meeting room with you tomorrow – selecting Shannon Sharpe to the Hall of Fame would be a big step towards righting some past wrongs, while giving the Denver Broncos players, their storied franchise and devoted fans the recognition they so rightly deserve.

Sincerely,
Douglas Lee

by Douglas A. Lee on Jan 30, 2009 9:58 AM MST reply actions   2 recs

Also, Len Shapiro has changed his e-mail address to badgerlen@aol.com
I will make the change above.

by Douglas A. Lee on Jan 30, 2009 10:03 AM MST up reply actions  

This should be the template!

If letters are sent with anger, or disdain, they get filed right where most of us would file them. If they are written with intelligence and respect, they will at least get attention.

Bravo, Doug!

-TSG

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by John Bena on Jan 30, 2009 10:03 AM MST up reply actions  

Thanks, Guru. Obviously, your props mean an awful lot to me. Thanks for MHR, it’s become my favorite website by a landslide!

by Douglas A. Lee on Jan 30, 2009 10:08 AM MST up reply actions  

What are you trying to say Johnny?

;-)

This is my GAP, there are many like it but this one is mine. Without my GAP I am useless, without me, they will run through my GAP. I will protect my GAP and have my brothers back on his. I will not be moved from my GAP, I am a crazed dog that patrols this area and will defeat all who entire it. I own this GAP, it is mine. I bought it with blood and sweat. I will not be pushed. I will not be moved. This Sunday I will make a stand and a statement.

by Tim Lynch on Jan 30, 2009 10:10 AM MST up reply actions  

I blame TedBartlett....

he got my all wiled up and irrational. It’s how I roll. :)

This is my GAP, there are many like it but this one is mine. Without my GAP I am useless, without me, they will run through my GAP. I will protect my GAP and have my brothers back on his. I will not be moved from my GAP, I am a crazed dog that patrols this area and will defeat all who entire it. I own this GAP, it is mine. I bought it with blood and sweat. I will not be pushed. I will not be moved. This Sunday I will make a stand and a statement.

by Tim Lynch on Jan 30, 2009 10:11 AM MST up reply actions  

Nothing about you...

And Ted’s past was right. This particular incident has no bearing on the complete bias and hypocrisy the MSM has shown towards the Broncos and the HOF.

-TSG

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by John Bena on Jan 30, 2009 10:13 AM MST up reply actions  

This is all kinds of win.

Very recommended. I’ll be sending something like this to these writers later today. I can only hope they’ll make the right decision.

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by papigrande on Jan 30, 2009 2:50 PM MST up reply actions  

Thanks, Papi! Good luck with your e-mailing.

by Douglas A. Lee on Jan 30, 2009 3:23 PM MST up reply actions  

excellent reply

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by broncfanstuckinsd on Jan 30, 2009 4:57 PM MST up reply actions  

copied and sent

great work nyc, and welcome aboard!

Concision in style, precision in thought, decision in life.

by Jeremy Bolander on Jan 30, 2009 6:33 PM MST up reply actions  

Wow, that is really well written.

This one deserves to be rec’d.

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by weazel on Jan 30, 2009 7:03 PM MST up reply actions  

Great letter nycbroncosfan

Thanks.

It all starts in the trenches HT 11/11/08

by firstfan on Jan 31, 2009 12:04 AM MST up reply actions  

That's a very well-reasoned and presented argument

which appears to have been influenced by some of the more careful comments here in its composition. It’s an excellent example of how to take advantage of an ongoing debate/discussion in forging your viewpoint, and how to present your argument so as to persuade rather than antagonize. Nice.

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by spock on Jan 31, 2009 12:32 AM MST up reply actions  

Thanks, Spock. I have gotten some good feedback from the voters, although not as many as I’d hoped. Again, let’s cross our fingers for Big Play Shay!

by Douglas A. Lee on Jan 31, 2009 7:05 AM MST up reply actions  

this letter rocks!

"Don't be an ass!" --Bill King

by batgirl on Jan 31, 2009 1:52 PM MST up reply actions  

now I am getting reemed. Here is another response I got:

_______________________________________
From: HBalzer@aol.com [mailto:HBalzer@aol.com]
Sent: Friday, January 30, 2009 9:39 AM
To: dhaus5650@yahoo.com; gburgess80125@yahoo.com; e19royal@gmail.com
Subject: Shannon Sharpe

I certainly appreciate the passion of Broncos fans. I do believe, however, there has been a massive over-reaction to what John Clayton said on ESPN Radio.
 
Shannon Sharpe is being considered as a tight end, not a wide receiver. What I am told John said, in his opinion, is that he views him more as a receiver. Sharpe was a receiving tight end. That’s obvious. That’s not saying he didn’t block, but it was pass-catching what he did best.
 
Some of you used the term revolutionized the position, redefined it, etc. Actually, it was Kellen Winslow that revolutionized the position in terms of receiving, and he was elected to the Hall of Fame.
 
I will add that it doesn’t do any of your arguments any good to question the football intelligence of the committee and assert that we have no knowledge of the game. You do not help Sharpe’s case by saying those things.
 
Furthermore, making an analogy to Steve Young as a running back or Deion Sanders as a wide receiver, as one of you did, is misguided at best.
 
There are many players not in the Hall that have a good case for being there, and perhaps surprisingly to many of you, they are not all Broncos.
 
As I often say to those that mention players that should be in, tell me who shouldn’t be. We all take our task very seriously, while understanding the difficult choices we have to make.

~~~~~~~~~~
And my response to this response:

Thank you for the response and thank you for reminding me who said it! I must disagree on several points. Kellen Winslow did revolutionize the position as a pass catching tight end. What I meant by that was that Sharpe was an outstanding blocking tight end and a pass catching tight end. Look at tape or ask those to played against Sharpe if he was an outstanding blocker. In fact, all you have to do is watch the Chiefs-Bronco game in 1998 when Derrick Thomas had 3 personal fouls in a row on Sharpe. It wasn’t just Sharpe’s mouth that caused that, it was Thomas’ inability to get past Sharpe and Sharpe’s mouth that caused it.

I concede that I reacted rather badly, but I am a fan and not a professional like you. Though me being a fan doesn’t mean I don’t know my team better than most sports writers outside of Denver. I’ve watched every Bronco game since the 80’s and Sharpe was dominate as a pass catching TE and a blocking TE. The Denver Broncos have the most rushing yards in the league since 1995 and Sharpe never left the field. He was not a situational player and the teams he played on were rush first teams, so it was his completeness as both a blocking tight end and a pass catching tight end that made him the greatest tight end in history. The only player I think comes close or surpasses him is Tony G, but I question Tony G’s blocking ability far more than Shannon Sharpe’s. If anything, Tony G is more like Kellen Winslow.

I don’t really understand why the John Clayton’s of the world could be so wrong in their analysis of Shannon Sharpe’s career. I’ve had another voting member tell me that Sharpe rarely blocked and was mostly a pass catching tight end. How does a players career get so distorted so quickly? So in a way, my generalization of the media’s lack of knowledge was incorrect but in some cases it has become apparent to me that some of the voters just don’t take their responsibilities as serious as they should.

Thanks again for your intelligent and candid response.

TL

This is my GAP, there are many like it but this one is mine. Without my GAP I am useless, without me, they will run through my GAP. I will protect my GAP and have my brothers back on his. I will not be moved from my GAP, I am a crazed dog that patrols this area and will defeat all who entire it. I own this GAP, it is mine. I bought it with blood and sweat. I will not be pushed. I will not be moved. This Sunday I will make a stand and a statement.

by Tim Lynch on Jan 30, 2009 10:51 AM MST reply actions  

Zappa, who shouldn't be in

Lets look at the list

Lynn Swann, did he make some nice catches, yes, did he matter that much to the Steelers offense or was he a top player throughout the year, no, in because of media bias and the SB, put him on say the chiefs and he would of never gotten a sniff.

JOE DELAMIELLEURE, played guard for the bills, his claim to fame, being a fat ass who didn’t get hurt too often, was on O-line for OJ simpson

BILLY SHAW (see above comment) minus OJ Simpson, played a whopping 8 years

CHARLIE SANDERS Detroit Lion TE, Caught a whopping 30 balls once, never on a winning team, a good player on piss poor teams

JAN STENERUD, a freaking kicker who’s records are dust

JIM LANGER

ANDRE TIPPETT

The list could go on, I will reply to that one this afternoon, they don’t take their job seriously else John Clayton wouldn’t be making an excuse that Sharpe shouldn’t get in because he was a pass catcher, I have yet to see them enshrine a TE who was considered a blocking TE, if that was the case then Dwane Carswell should be in.

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by Broncoman on Jan 30, 2009 12:34 PM MST up reply actions  

I didn't want to get into the "Who shouldn't be in debate"....I wanted to keep the focus on the fact that

Shannon Sharpe is in the Top 2 of all-time greats at the TE position. There is no way he isn’t a first ballot HOFer.

This is my GAP, there are many like it but this one is mine. Without my GAP I am useless, without me, they will run through my GAP. I will protect my GAP and have my brothers back on his. I will not be moved from my GAP, I am a crazed dog that patrols this area and will defeat all who entire it. I own this GAP, it is mine. I bought it with blood and sweat. I will not be pushed. I will not be moved. This Sunday I will make a stand and a statement.

by Tim Lynch on Jan 30, 2009 1:18 PM MST up reply actions  

I would also add

Namath and Bradshaw. Both are completely overrated. Especially when Namath is the only QB in the hall with more picks than Tds and Bradshaw is 212/210. I friggin hate the hall

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by broncfanstuckinsd on Jan 30, 2009 4:59 PM MST up reply actions  

I agree with both of those as extremely over-rated

"Me fail english, that unpossible" - Ralph Wiggum
"Duffman is thrusting in the direction of the problem" - Duffman

by Broncoman on Jan 30, 2009 8:01 PM MST up reply actions  

I will agree with HBalzer though on one thing...

There are plenty of deserving players who are still waiting to get in (like Monk last year). Again, I can swallow the pill that Shannon didn’t get in this year because they want to get in some deserving players who have been waiting for awhile… I just don’t understand comparing him to WR’s, as a reason to not vote him in.

by tunga77 on Jan 30, 2009 1:25 PM MST up reply actions  

I think this is John Clayton's email

johnclayton@clearchannel.com

Found it on a fan site, amazing he would have fans.

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by Broncoman on Jan 30, 2009 12:36 PM MST reply actions  

The responses I got

I heard back from a few different writers, and exchanged messages with one. He doesn’t know whether Sharpe will make it tomorrow, but that he definitely will at some point. He also admitted that he doesn’t quite understand how some players get in and some don’t. So, apparently the voters think the Broncos have had a bunch of “very good” players, but no “great” players before Elway. I’ve gotten a similar response from Dr. Z in the past. I think it’s an easy answer, one that makes no sense to me. So, the Broncos have been around for 49 years, been to 6 Super Bowls and won 2, yet only Elway so far has qualified as a “great” player.

I think we’ll just have to cross our fingers for tomorrow, and then take the issue up again as we get towards next year’s selection process. Let’s go Big Play Shay!!!!!

by Douglas A. Lee on Jan 30, 2009 8:57 PM MST reply actions  

The suggestions in your fanpost are well-conceived

in showing us how to have a positive effect and not irritate the voters. Of particular relevance to me
is number two. When the audience is professional writers an ungrammatical argument isn’t helpful. One
pet peeve of mine, which I’ve seen many times in threads and in at least one letter sent to committee members, is dominate, as in “He was a dominate tight end”. No, he was’t. He was a dominant tight end. Dominate is a verb, which tells us what somebody does. Dominant is an adjective, which tells us what a player is if he dominates regularly. Doesn’t matter if we’re just talking to each other, but if we’re trying to persuade writers being literate helps!

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by spock on Jan 31, 2009 12:59 AM MST up reply actions  

You could use, "He was a dominating tight end".

This is my GAP, there are many like it but this one is mine. Without my GAP I am useless, without me, they will run through my GAP. I will protect my GAP and have my brothers back on his. I will not be moved from my GAP, I am a crazed dog that patrols this area and will defeat all who entire it. I own this GAP, it is mine. I bought it with blood and sweat. I will not be pushed. I will not be moved. This Sunday I will make a stand and a statement.

by Tim Lynch on Jan 31, 2009 1:28 AM MST up reply actions  

Or am I about two years short of college education? :)

This is my GAP, there are many like it but this one is mine. Without my GAP I am useless, without me, they will run through my GAP. I will protect my GAP and have my brothers back on his. I will not be moved from my GAP, I am a crazed dog that patrols this area and will defeat all who entire it. I own this GAP, it is mine. I bought it with blood and sweat. I will not be pushed. I will not be moved. This Sunday I will make a stand and a statement.

by Tim Lynch on Jan 31, 2009 1:28 AM MST up reply actions  

No, you can say that

and he was, of course. Hopefully, all of this is moot and he gets in on the first try, because he’s hoping his grandmother, who raised him, will still be around to see it.

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by spock on Jan 31, 2009 1:46 AM MST up reply actions  

He was dominating a tight end?

What games did you watch, Zappa?

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by papigrande on Jan 31, 2009 11:24 AM MST up reply actions  

Spreading the Word

I am doing my best to spread the word, because this is a travesty of travesties.

Go Broncos!

by dbroncos78087 on Feb 3, 2009 3:27 PM MST reply actions  

Emails Sent

"If you don't know where your going you might find yourself somplace else."

by BroncoJoe87 on Feb 3, 2009 7:26 PM MST reply actions  

Unfortunately, Peter King has done it again...

Here’s what he wrote in yesterday’s Mailbag…
I DON’T THINK THERE WAS OPPOSITION, JUST A LONG LINE. From B. Bruno of Metuchen, N.J.: "What was the opposition to Shannon Sharpe for the Hall of Fame? I can’t argue with the six guys who got in, but Sharpe should have been a first ballot lock. You can’t tell me that there isn’t a bias against the Broncos. There are only two Broncos in the Hall and there are nine Chiefs. You tell me which franchise has the better history of the two and why the one with the lesser history has far more players in the Hall. I am convinced, for example, that Randy Gradishar would have been in had he worn the uniform of an East Coast team.’’

Don’t look for biases where there are none. This class wasn’t a New York-L.A.-Chicago class. It has men from Buffalo (two), Minnesota, Kansas City, Pittsburgh/Oakland/Baltimore (Rod Woodson) and Dallas picked. There is no Denver bias from a soul in that room, at least from anything I’ve ever heard on or off the record.
And here is the e-mail I’ve submitted…
Peter,
Once again, the evidence you use to say there is no bias against Denver Broncos and the HOF Selection Process is completely ridiculous. You cite the selections of players/owner from Buffalo (8), Minnesota (9), KC (9), Pittsburgh (18), Oakland (13), Baltimore (a franchise that has existed for 13 years) and Dallas (11). The numbers in parentheses are the number of Hall of Famers who were primarily members of those franchises. Each franchise has at least 8 enshrinees, while the Broncos still have 2 (one of whom played much of his career in Minnesota). So again, if there is no anti-Denver bias, you need to come up with some better proof. I am extremely disappointed that this is the second consecutive week that I need to call you out on this exact same thing.

by Douglas A. Lee on Feb 4, 2009 10:36 AM MST reply actions  

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