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Rushing to win

For some time now I have been harping on the notion that in order to quickly improve the team the Broncos need to focus on the run game.

First let's look at some basic statistics paired with team records to show that nothing improves a team like running the football.                                                     


The Denver Broncos rushing totals during the Mike Shanahan era. 

Year - Total Td's - Team high                                                                                          

2008 - 15 Hillis 5  

2007 - 10  Henry 4
2006 - 12  Mike Bell 8
2005 - 25  M. Anderson 12
2004 - 13  Droughns 6 
2003 - 20  Portis 14
2002 - 21  Portis 15
2001 - 7   Anderson 4
2000 - 21  Anderson 15
1999 - 13  Gary 7
1998 - 26  Davis 21
1997 - 18  Davis 15
1996 - 20  Davis 13
1995 - 14  Davis 7


Year Record Playoff result
2008 8-8        None
2007 7-9        None
2006 9-7        None
2005 13-3       L, AFC Championship
2004 10-6       L, First round
2003 10-6       L, First round
2002 9-7        None
2001 8-8        None
2000 11-5       L, First round
1999 6-10       None
1998 14-2       W, Super Bowl
1997 12-4       W, Super Bowl
1996 13-3       L, Divisional
1995 8-8        None

 

Shanahans top 5 seasons in Denver (Record - Year - Rushing TD's)
14-2    1998 - 26 td's
13-3   96',05' - 20,25
12-4    1997 - 18
11-5    2000 - 21

The worst 5

6-10    1999 - 13 td's
7-9     2007 - 10
8-8     95',01',08' - 14,7,15


Team improvement - The Carolina Panthers were 7-9 in 2007 and had only 7 rushing touchdowns. In 2008 they went 13-3 and had a whopping 30 rushing td's.


Team decline - The 2006,14 -2 San Diego Chargers rushed for 32 touchdowns during LT's record setting year. In 07' they went 11-5 and finished with 19 rushing td's.  This years 8-8 version had only 13 total rushing td's. They are currently deemed as one of the hottest teams in the NFL over the last couple weeks. Well, against the Broncos in Week 17 they had 5 rushing touchdowns. Then against the Colts, they had 3 with the game winner coming in overtime. That is 8 rushing touchdowns in 2 games, while they had only 8 through 15 games.  Running the ball is sacrosanct in the NFL.

The outlook is that Peyton Hillis will be a major part of the offense in 2009, no doubt. His greatest value will be near the goal line and in short yardage while lining up at H back in passing downs to utilize his great hands out of the backfield. I think there is a need to add a young running back who adds a game changing dimension to the offense and can be depended on to carry the load. A prime 1A back.

What we have currently on our roster aside from Hillis can not be depended on as they have not proved they can be  a. consistant b. productive.

Stats Overview Rushing Receiving Fumbles
YEAR ATT YDS AVG LNG TD REC YDS AVG LNG TD FUM LST
2007 248 1336 5.4 80 14 20 253 12.7 35 0 0 0
2008 250 1400 5.6 68 16 33 392 11.9 37 2 0 0

This running back has carried it consistantly for 2 years, long enough to prove talent but short enough to avoid injury. What's more, he has never fumbled once. He averages 5.5 yards per for his college career and has exceptional hands out of the backfield.

He will require a first round pick but Knowshon Moreno could be the future of the Broncos running game and paired with Hillis would form one dynamic tandem of pass catchers and ball carriers.

Knowshon Moreno

The recent poll I did shows that only 6 votes out 110 want to pick offense if given only one choice. The reason I only asked to choose one is I really wanted to see what you valued most, above all else. It was defense loud and clear.

So if you are absolutely sold that the Broncos defense is disgustingly soft, which is a very valid argument, and  you certainly don't want to "waste" a pick on any offensive player, just don't forget. I mean perhaps you miss Wilson and want Maulauga to take his place, or perhaps you miss Atwater and want Mays to take his place. But who is going to take TD's place?  It's understandable to want a defense, I just really hope that Pat Bowlen and the new staff in Denver remember what aspect of football filled up his trophy case.

From the franchise saving Floyd Little to Terrell Davis' abilities that started the Broncos fantastic Championship run, the Broncos have always been a rushing team and I hope we don't forget that.

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TD was irreplaceable, I'll give you that.

But the bottom line is that serviceable RBs in the NFL are a dime a dozen. Barring the crazy injuries, I think our running game would have been fine this year, and we didn’t have any superstar players. With our solid line in place, I don’t see ANY reason to use a 1st round pick on a RB when the defense needs so much attention.

I’m so used to discussing baseball when it comes to statistics and player evaluation, I wish we had the concept of replacement level and average in the NFL. Replacement level being the guy you can pick off the metaphorical street who will cost you league minimum, and average being the average across the league (slightly above replacement level, but not superstar). I don’t think we need a superstar RB, average will do fine. And in the NFL my gut tells me the gap between replacement level and average at RB is far smaller than other positions, like QB or WR, or even OL.

by appleshampoo on Jan 7, 2009 7:53 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

This is like last year...

When people like myself wanted to take a go at Mendenhall or Chris Johnson…or even Tashard Choice in the third to later rounds. The Broncos have done well in the past with average, serviceable RBs (and it would also help for the backs not to fall like a bunch of bowling pins). I don’t know if it’s that realistic at this point. Trust me, running the ball is certainly important, but defense is going to probably come first in Colorado this off-season. I wanted that flashy, intriguing top running back last year too, but sometimes a team goes for needs more often than ‘best available.’ That’s the age-old argument.

Instead of trading down and taking one of those big running backs, the Broncos made the smart pick and took Ryan Clady out of Boise State based on need…and that certainly panned out quite nicely this season. Trust me, I’m with you on the need for a big time RB (CLINTON! haha…Plus, I LOVED TD), however I don’t know if that’s the most realistic option this off-season. Denver can still do well with the ‘average’ as appleshampoo said in the comment above, and has proven so in the past. Getting a guy like Knowshon may be as wishful thinking as hoping Cowher would come coach in Denver. Heck, because I like the guy I’m hoping C.J. Spiller out of Clemson gets a look. However, I’m willing to throw it to the guys who know what they’re doing and I have some confidence that a healthy one-two punch can be found in the Denver running game (in addition to Hillis that is). Hopefully. I was all for Clady last season and I’m all for the smart pick this year…whatever that turns out to be.

by phantom818 on Jan 7, 2009 8:24 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

Don't forget that TD was a 6th round pick

and he worked out pretty well for us. 1st round RBs that year (#1 Ki-Jana Carter, #17 Tyrone Wheatley, #18 Napolean Kaufman, #19 James Stewart and #21 Rashaan Salaam). I’m not convinced that I would have wanted any of those first rounders instead of TD (except at the time I wanted Rashaan Salaam because I’m a CU fan, but in hindsight, that wouldn’t have been a good pick).

In fact I think the only RB selected before TD that did anything in the league is Curtis Martin (3rd Round, #74)

"It's all over Fat Man" - Tom Jackson to John Madden 1977 AFC Championship Game

"tough times don't last, tough people do" - Mike "The Mastermind" Shanahan

by DesertBroncoFan on Jan 8, 2009 10:32 AM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Exactly.

So while a lot of us would like to have that big time guy, there are the “little guys” or “diamonds in the rough” (cliche cough cough) who can make it in the league as well. That’s why I was looking at a guy like Choice last year. I’m content with getting the needs filled out in say rounds one or two and then if need be, a good running back can come later. Those guys are certainly out there. Hillis is looking pretty good himself right now too and he certainly wasn’t a first or second round “big timer” (and I still like how of the three Hogs backfield members, he came in the least known and outplayed the other two this past season – even though Felix did fall victim to the injury early).

by phantom818 on Jan 8, 2009 5:55 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Goes to the whole red zone effeciency

When you can score rushing TD’s your effeciency goes up and the percentage of ill advised passes into triple coverage goes down.

I like Moreno, but I still think you can get a good back in the latter rounds and paying a RB 1st round money for someone that may or may not last 4 years is a waste. Look at Matt Forte (late round pick), Willie Parker (late round pick) Bradon Jacobs and Derrick Ward (late round picks) and our own successes in that area. So I am not opposed to getting a RB in the draft, just not with the 1st three picks, there will be good guys that slip, look for guys like Jerimih Johnson out of Oregon to slip (Had a great year last year, good year this year but was banged up some, he will get overlooked).

"Me fail english, that unpossible" - Ralph Wiggum
"Duffman is thrusting in the direction of the problem" - Duffman

by Broncoman on Jan 8, 2009 1:39 AM MST reply actions   0 recs

This is where I like

Gartrell Johnson from CSU. He certainly showed some speed and power in the New Mexico Bowl and I’m pretty sure he’ll be around in the later rounds (projected by NFL Draft Scout as a 7th rounder).

"It's all over Fat Man" - Tom Jackson to John Madden 1977 AFC Championship Game

"tough times don't last, tough people do" - Mike "The Mastermind" Shanahan

by DesertBroncoFan on Jan 8, 2009 10:40 AM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, he looked awesome against Fresno, but then again, that was Fresno

"Me fail english, that unpossible" - Ralph Wiggum
"Duffman is thrusting in the direction of the problem" - Duffman

by Broncoman on Jan 8, 2009 3:16 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Just looked...

Didn’t realize that Fresno St. was 108th out of 119 in Division I against the rush.

I still liked his speed and burst through the hole.

"It's all over Fat Man" - Tom Jackson to John Madden 1977 AFC Championship Game

"tough times don't last, tough people do" - Mike "The Mastermind" Shanahan

by DesertBroncoFan on Jan 8, 2009 3:30 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

I'm not familiar with Moreno...

tell me: how many sacks does he have?
how many interceptions/pass defenses?
how many solo tackles?

While I believe in pounding the ball as much as anyone, our needs on defense are far too great to spend high draft picks on offense, to use up any more cap space on offense, or to send the wrong signals to the defense.

Our needs next year are defense, defense, defense and maybe some more defense.

by SlowWhiteGuy on Jan 8, 2009 10:11 AM MST reply actions   0 recs

Knowshon Moreno

The RB from UGA

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by broncfanstuckinsd on Jan 8, 2009 10:27 AM MST up reply actions   0 recs

That's my point!

If he doesn’t make sacks, get picks, or make tackles, he doesn’t fill our most pressing needs, regardless of how good a RB he might be.

BTW: the NFL is littered with “can’t miss” RBs who turned out to be draft busts: Cedric Benson anyone? How about KiJana Carter?

by SlowWhiteGuy on Jan 8, 2009 11:24 AM MST reply actions   0 recs

ohh i get it

I am a little slow on the intake, I do agree with defense, defense, and more defense. Plus I think the Broncos have a stable of good backs, Hillis, Torain, Alridge and then keep PIttman

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by broncfanstuckinsd on Jan 8, 2009 11:47 AM MST up reply actions   0 recs

SlowWhiteGuy

You have a point that RB is definetly not our most pressing need. My point is that if you improve greatly in that area you drastically improve your chances to win regardless of the defense.

The argument of bringing up a couple of busts at RB is not that strong. I could name a boat load of DT’s and DE’s that are busts, and that is just with the Broncos.

The Broncos have had top 5 defenses and they didn’t win Championships, we only won a ring running the ball. Period. To build the kind of defense that everyone is clamoring for is going to take about 3-5 years, maybe 2-4. Well sorry but this Bronco fan is tired of being 8-8 or 7-9 or 9-7.

Everyone sees the Giants beat the undefeated Patriots with defense. I see the Patriots unable to the run the ball and therefore beat themselves. There are numerous times in Bronco history when we faced the best run defense in the league in a big game and the offense won that battle every time. 1997 against the Steelers in the playoffs, 1997 against a Chiefs team in Arrowhead, 1997 Superbowl 32, we couldn’t be stopped by those great defenses.

So if we build a great defense will a great offense come along a beat us? I know we have Cutler but he hasn’t done what Brady did with Moss in 07, but without a running game the defense just thinks one thing, rush the passer.

You only get so much money to play with and you are only going to get lucky on mid round picks so often so you have to decide what beats what.

In baseball good pitching beats good hitting, in football great running attack beats anything! But if we shouldn’t draft a first rounder because they could get hurt or be bust than lets just trade all our picks.

The Colts had Manning, Harrison and Wayne, a great offense but their D’ stunk. So they went out and drafted Joseph Addai in the first round and won a Super Bowl! Worked for them.

Was it hard? "It hurts. But tough times don’t last — tough people do. That’s life." - Mike Shanahan

by Steve O' on Jan 8, 2009 4:48 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

We both agree...

That running the ball, especially the ability to pick up short yardage, is critical to winning. But I contend that history is against your argument. Yes many Super Bowl victors have had great running backs: Denver with TD, Dalas w/ Smith, etc. But, who was Pittsburg’s “franchise runner” in 2005? Who was NE’s in 2001, Tampa’s in 2002, SF’s in 1995? Many teams have also won WITHOUT franchise backs.

Now, how many teams have ever won the Super Bowl with a solid defense, not necessarily a great, but a solid defense (actually I can’t think of a single team that has won without a good defense)?

You mention the Broncos, but the 1997 Broncos defense held KC to 10 points. Without a stiff defense even TD couldn’t have won that game. I could argue that it was two defensive take-aways that won the championship against Pittsburg (most Steelers fans consider them two give-aways). Even in the SB, while TD was pivotal, it was a fumble caused by a blitzing Atwater that put the Broncos in front.

You mention Indy. In fact Indie had a great RB, James, before they got Addai. And it was Rhodes, not Addai who did most of the damage in the SB. But what put Indie over the top was the improvement of their defense when Sanders returned from injury.

Yes, the saying in baseball is, “pitching beats hitting.” There’s also a saying in football, “Offense wins games but defense wins championships!”

by SlowWhiteGuy on Jan 8, 2009 5:33 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

You make very good points SWG,

I guess with Tom Nalen retiring, Mike Shanahan getting canned and the running game getting to be a more mixed bag every year, I am concerned that our team is changing direction from what made us great in the first place, our consistancy. I remember being laughed at unmercifully in Elways first 3 Super Bowls, I remember watching the meltdown in 96 against Jax and I remember what made us turn the corner and turn usinto winners. I understand all things must change, it’s obvious that Shanahan created an O-line with staple tackles to help build a pocket and the plan was always to throw more than run.

I just don’t want to lose the “run the football mentality” I want it to be a focus. I myself am torn. I have said before that if I was GM I would draft Maulauga and I stand by that. I would target CJ Spiller later, or someone like him. I wish to root for a gamebreaker though, that is how I remember Bronco success.

Thanks for input SWG!

Was it hard? "It hurts. But tough times don’t last — tough people do. That’s life." - Mike Shanahan

by Steve O' on Jan 8, 2009 6:26 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

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