Denver Broncos Thoughts and Musings - Cowboys Week
Welcome to 3-0, Denver! The team that destroyed the raiders on the road will still not get as much respect until they beat a few of the teams in the upcoming stretch. I'm not worried about that happening. We have had a series of things in our favor over the other squads that we've taken been able to use. Those advantages have involved personnel matchups, coaching matchups, scheme, attitude and execution. In today's effort, I'm going to start with the biggest among them.
Carving Them Up
The Broncos had a 12th man on the field all game against the raiders, and it was perfectly legal. It was Josh McDaniels. Last year, he laid 49 points on the raiders when he was with New England. This year, he destroyed both their offense and defense. Credit Mike Nolan on defense, but the offensive side was all Josh McDaniels.
One of the tricks was simple - the raiders don't make accommodations, and in today's NFL, that's not going to get you very far. They play the defense that they always play, essentially with 4 rushers, man-to-man coverage on the receivers and 5 players in support of whatever they see, pass or rush. They are, in this respect, the antithesis of the Amoeba-based Broncos. The Broncos made adjustments and conquered. If this was a contest between the old and the new, it was the horse and buggy against the modern hybrid. Their horse didn't make it out of the stable. The Broncos, however, did.
One of the simple techniques was to run underneath and to use crossing routes to defeat the coverage. Time after time, Denver's receivers came open. Brandon Marshall consistently got a matchup underneath Kirk Morrison, which is going to go in Denver's favor 9 of 10 times. Ryan Clady and Company frustrated the defensive line of the raiders, not giving up a sack and opening huge lanes for the running game. Rumors that Kyle Orton was back there with time to make espresso are in error - it was actually cappuccino, and he shared it with the receiving corps. As I'll discuss later, the O-line was nearly faultless.
This is a simple example of a more far-reaching principle. The Broncos are headed by one of the finest minds in offensive strategy - again. This time, it's the modern offensive strategy. Even Mike Shanahan has commented on all the great things that he finally has time to study now that he's 'retired'. The game is constantly changing. Coach McDaniels is at the tip of the spear, so to speak - an innovator as well as a student of the history of the game. This is the man who was the coordinator and called the plays for the most prolific offense in NFL history. That's not a small thing.
But this is also a man who got his start in the NFL on the defensive side. He was successful on offense in great part because he understood defenses and designed strategies to defeat them. He now has Mike Nolan, designing and carrying out the best defense he can and Brian Xanders, constantly looking for players to make the team stronger and managing the contractual side. Xanders is an often-missed piece of this puzzle. Those members who are currently concerned with how the team will pay for its players in a possibly uncapped year aren't aware of how Xanders is already constantly working on the puzzle. I'm looking forward to watching his efforts play out.
I'll talk more about this later, but those who question if our offense is up to the Cowboys aren't really thinking of how much Josh McDaniels is aware of the team's strengths and weaknesses. At 6:00 of the third quarter Monday night, the Cowboys had scored exactly 3 points against a Carolina team that in no way reflects the performances of last season. Dallas got their final touchdown on a pick-6 INT, or they would have been vulnerable to losing over a single score - while at home and playing against a team that is now 0-3 and seems to be self-destructing. This isn't a juggernaut bearing down on Denver. McDaniels was watching the game and he was seeing the coaches' film the next day. I'm not concerned.
When I was watching the preseason, I listened to a lot of folks who were deeply concerned when we didn't click immediately on offense. After a single half of the first game, there was a resurgence of the 'Fire Orton' contingent. McDaniels wasn't as smart as he thought he was, right? Was he? But after three games in which we've scored 62 points and given up 16, fans should know that this is a team that, for a change, you can trust. The pieces are there, the coaching is there, and the level of play is something that is currently new to this fair city. It's been a long time. Perhaps that's why it's hard to see at times. We still see through the eyes of the last few years.
Cincinnati is better by far than folks thought. We held them scoreless for how long, and in their home stadium? Our offense hadn't started to click; but since then, each week we get better with 27 and 23 points in the past two games, respectively. In fairness to this team, I think that you have to look at both where the defense is and where the offense is going. That's normal, with a new scheme and many new players. We do better each week. Last week, our rushing attack fully came of age. The week before, we gained a total of 449 yards and took apart a team that wasn't close to as good as us. This week we embarrassed a division rival who had defeated Kansas City in KC. I'm starting to look at each new game like it's Christmas, wondering what will be our present this week. I look forward to seeing what we'll open up on the Cowboys.
Hanging Them Out to Dry
During Week 1 of this season, Kyle Orton had a couple of passes that the fans wanted him to take back. Coming across the middle against Cincinnati, two pass plays resulted in receivers - first Eddie Royal and then Brandon Marshall - getting clocked by Rey Maualuga. There were groans and cries that he stank, that he would get our receivers killed. Was that the case, or was Orton doing his job and the receivers living with theirs? There isn't a clear answer, but here are some perspectives that may help you understand what happened.
After that game, I went to Professor Hoosierteacher to ask him about the issue. Was Orton misguided in throwing those passes? Did he really hang those players out to dry? Here is the response he was kind enough to tender:
"You raise a good point about the QB making the call on a completed pass versus laying out the receiver. Here's my view...
The QB's only job is to get the ball downfield. Sure, if he can protect his receivers, that's a bonus. But I think that a QB has enough to deal with, and probably can't see everything.
In the case of floating a lob pass (when a bullet might have been better), it is probably fair to blame the QB. But in the case where a LB is charging the WR from the side, it is just too hard to second guess the QB. Orton may have led a receiver or two into a LB, but like I write in an earlier e-mail, no QB will do that on purpose, so it is fair to assume he didn't see the threat. And even if he did, he's paid to move the ball down the field, and the receiver is being paid to sacrifice his body to an extent.
I may be biased as a coach (I was never a receiver or a QB), and may be ignorant since I never coached an offense or an entire team. But that's how I imagine the thinking goes."
That put things is a slightly different light for me. If you watch both plays that most folks objected to, in each Maualuga is on the weakside, screened from Orton's view by the scrum at the O-line. Rey moves perfectly and hits like a grizzly, but that's the nature of the beast, so to speak. Going over the middle in the short zone takes a certain mentality. You've potentially got safeties, LBs and corners available to hit you, and frequently, it's a group-slam situation. Some players never master what it takes. Others take a certain fierce joy in it, reveling in the competition and anxious to prove that they can take the hits and bounce up.
In both of these cases, the pass was just high enough to get over the LOS, fast, fairly well thrown. Rey seems to have an innate sense of timing about this play and a lot of receivers will rue that fact, but it isn't necessarily Orton's fault. He has a half second, no more, to see the receiver, chose his read and get the ball moving. Football is, by its nature, a very tough sport and this is a great example of that fact.
Could Orton do better? Sure, and from the past two games, he already does. I wouldn't suggest that he did the right thing. I'm suggesting only that he is paid to complete passes and that's what he did. They weren't lobs. It wasn't a high pass that exposed the receivers' kidneys to the pile-driver of the safety. It was two passes, thrown fairly well, that resulted in a couple of massive hits by a player who may well be exceeding most folks' expectations at his position.
I always liked Rey and I thought that he'd do well in the NFL. I didn't think that the Broncos would like him only because of his style of play. He can be undisciplined at times and it was and is my impression that Josh McDaniels would not be interested in him for that reason. That's been true, and Andra Davis and Mario Haggan have let me be happy about it. Davis and Haggan are big guys who can hit very hard, but they both are playing tight, disciplined football. That's one of the hallmarks of our defense - everyone does his job and everyone trusts the guys next to him to do theirs. In a different system, a player might have more opportunities to freelance, to make decisions that might not fit the Broncos but might work well for another team. That's among the reasons that I didn't see Rey in predominantly orange, but as a Bengal, he's doing a very good job. Sometimes, that means he's able to make other players pay for doing theirs. More power to him.
By the way, I'd be remiss in talking about Orton today without giving a few more points on his work. Orton is averaging 7.5 yards per pass play and has a very respectable 91.2 QB rating with a 55.7% completion percentage. That probably won't get much higher, overall - Orton is a smart player who takes care of the ball. He'll throw it away to save the play and avoid the sacks and he knows that stats don't win ballgames. The Marshall TD in the first quarter was the 110th consecutive pass for Orton w/o an INT. By the end of the game, it was 128 passes for Kyle since throwing an INT (he threw two last December versus Green Bay). He also hasn't had a repeat of those throws that Rey defended so well. Whatever the wrinkle was, it's ironed out now.
I also enjoyed Josh McDaniels taking head-on this business of Orton as a 'game-manager' when talking to the press. That's a criticism that usually comes from those who don't know quite as much about football as they think they do - they talk about stats and completions as if those are the keys to a QB, and that's just not true. What else is there? Listen to McD, who gave some examples of the 'more' that a QB must have:
"We don't ever talk abut our quarterbacks as game managers, but you want a quarterback to be efficient, you want them to run the line of scrimmage and the huddle. He got us out of a bunch of plays (by calling audibles) yesterday at the line of scrimmage and in the running game which - you know, nobody ever talks about the quarterback when you run for 215 yards, but when he gets you out of a play that's going to go nowhere and you gain, you know, 26 on the play, he plays a part in good running, you know? So, not turning the ball over, you know, finding the open man when players are open and just being effective. Kyle certain could have done better yesterday but played well. And we're going to work to fix the things that he didn't do well. Once the game declares itself and you have a 17 point lead in the third quarter, you're not going to do things that could put the game in jeopardy.
"The quarterback has 12-15 things he has to go once the play is called (emphasis is mine). There's a lot of responsibility on his plate from the time he claps his hands to break the huddle to the moment that the ball is snapped. He has to call the cadence, to the identification of protection to 'Which running play should we go to', to reading the blitz, to figuring out if he has to get rid of it, to reading the overage to determine where he's going to throw it to reading our receivers to determining who's open. There's a lot of things that he has to do and Kyle does a lot of them well."
Coach McDaniels never claims that the team couldn't have done better and he probably never will. But the intelligence of Orton, his knowledge of the game and his abilities in the huddle and at the line have been underestimated since he came out of college, as have his arm strength and accuracy. Hopefully, that will diminish over time as people see more of him and learn more about the game from the head coach.
Fitting into the System
It's a principle that has been exposed this season - sometimes, it's more a matter of the fit between the player and the coach/system than it is a matter of how 'good' the player is. Almost all of the NFL's players are fairly 'good.' The big question tends to be - how well do you use the players that you have?
That fact is a major reason why most folks missed the boat on the Broncos' revival. It doesn't fit well into the quick, short, rote preconceptions that tend to pass for analysis and commentary, but it's an essential part of putting a competitive team on the field. In the first year of Josh McDaniels' head coaching career, McD has identified his needs and scouted his players to a 'T'. If you carefully ascertain the qualities that you need in a player and analyze the skill set of the player in a thorough and rational way, you can get a good fit and a good team relatively quickly.
There are limits, of course. Ray Lewis might be good in any system, but even then, a lot of folks questioned his desire to move to a 3-4. Would he fit? There are, as we can see, a lot of different 3-4 systems. Coverage LBs or not? Zone blitz? Bigger players, Bullough-type scheme? 5-2? Hybrid? As always, I recommend reading HT's classic, the Modern 3-4 Defenses. It never gets old. HT talked about what qualities (even though it's a fairly general article) are needed in players from different types of 3-4 schemes. He also talked to me more than once in emails about the smaller, lighter 'coverage' linebackers and how they might be used, even though that's not the approach that our team has taken. McDaniels and Nolan decided to go in a very specific direction. They found and molded a series of linebackers who have shown themselves to be excellent as individuals and adroit and effectual as players within the system. Intelligent, tough and physical was the yardstick. It's working.
The linebackers are very much of a type. Each of them is big and most are bigger than average, with the exceptions of D.J. Williams and Wes Woodyard. Darrell Reid's precise weight is a mystery, but it's above 260, probably about 270. Robert Ayers clocks in at 274. Doom is only 248 and you can see why he's beginning to flourish as his skill set and his position converge; he doesn't have the size to fight the tackles at the line and stop a ball carrier, but his leverage is unusually effective. With his 'running start', that's changing. Jarvis Moss is up to 257 and needs every pound; Andra Davis is comparatively light at 251. We only have one LB under 242, and Wesley Woodyard (who is ostensibly 222) hits like he's 265. Even so - he's a nickel LB and perfect for the position he plays. He is showing skills in coverage, a nose for the ball, and his special teams work is admirable. By the way, did you notice that Andra Davis and Mario Haggan asked to stay on special teams? Another consistency is that our players don't want to get off the field. They are versatile, able to handle multiple responsibilities, are generally more intelligent than average (and have a high Information Processing Speed, or IPS) as well as leadership qualities that stand out.
One of the things that has created such a remarkable performance on the Broncos' side of the ball has been the fact that McDaniels understands exactly what he wants from each player on the field. That sounds awfully rudimentary, doesn't it? Every head coach should know that about every player. The fact is (from all the reading I've done), that it's not as common as you would think. I tend to use Mario Haggan as a defensive example, so if you've read this before from me, I apologize.
Mario Haggan was a classic 'tweener'. Back when he was drafted, relatively few teams were using the 3-4, but he fit the bill as a 3-4 strongside LB perfectly. The only thing is, he was drafted as a middle linebacker in a 3-4 system, and was then asked mostly to play Sam. Not a problem, really - when he was on the field, his production was good. His special teams work was excellent, too. But in the Broncos' 'Oklahoma' variation 5-2/3-4 defense, he's become a mainstay on the field and his leadership has brought him a Captaincy and the admiration and respect of the entire team. What's the difference? Scheme, and taking advantage of the skills of the player..
At Mississippi State, Haggan showed that he's all about the team. Talking about the 1999 season, he once said in an interview, "That year was special because we played together as a team." Even then, Mario understood what it really takes to win. This is perhaps the first year he's had a chance to put all of his skills into effect on the field. He doesn't always get credit for what he accomplishes - he's already got a sack, of course, but when scoring they only give tackles and assists to so many players. When I'm watching film, I'm finding a swarm of Broncos piling into and onto the ball carrier. Haggan is usually one of them - along with Brian Dawkins, Andra Davis and several other Broncos. Give the right man the right role, make him believe that he's a part of something greater than himself and stay back. If you get too close, you'll end up in the scrum. Haggan did a great job in ripping the ball out when the raiders threatened at 7:38 in the second quarter, getting a fumble from Darren McFadden. Ryan McBean was holding McFadden's legs and Haggan just grabbed the ball and tore it away. Heads-up play, and typical of him this year. It took them from an advantageous position to 3rd and 16, holding them to their only field goal.
They also did what coaches everywhere tell their defensive players - there are three points of contact: the hands, elbow and ribcage. If you attack those, you can create fumbles. the Broncos are doing it, they study and practice the basics, and it matters.
By the way, Andra Davis is another great example. He was used in a 3-4 in Cleveland, but without the kind of scheming that Nolan uses in our '5-2' variation. Davis' weaknesses were more exposed in that scheme. He wasn't the right player for that system, but he's apparently nearly perfect for ours. A year ago, I mentioned that I hoped that Bob Slowik would develop a different approach to the defense, using the personnel to maximum benefit. It didn't happen then, but it has now. It's easy the see the difference. Davis is all over the film, play after play. D.J. Williams and he are a fierce pair at ILB.
You can also look at the transitions made by Elvis Dumervil and Darrell Reid. Both have adapted quickly to becoming productive in their new positions. You can see that as a merging of player effort, coaching expertise and the vision of the coaches to see where they could become more effective. Of Dumervil, Champ Bailey said,
"I think he's made the best transition from one position to completely another position that I've ever seen. He's showing his versatility. The guy wants to win and he does everything that we ask him to do."
It's one thing that has turned the Broncos' program around so quickly. The level of organization that Josh McDaniels learned - first from his father, next from his own training in mathematics and then from Bill Belichick, as well as his intellect and innate sense of logic and order - has permitted him to make far fewer mistakes than most first-time head coaches. The functions of the organization have been carefully planned and painstakingly executed. Given the offseason distractions, I won't say that McD 'makes it look easy'. I will say this - he's doing exactly what this organization needed.
For what it's worth, those who claimed that McDaniels would fail because other Belichick disciples have have committed a common logical fallacy. Every situation is unique. Many things have never happened - until they do. You have to judge on an individual basis.
Coaching Corner
McDaniels blew everyone away this week in his post-game remarks. His comments on coaching, teaching, tackling and communicating were a thing of sheer beauty. They also got me thinking. McDaniels, unlike many coaches, isn't intimidated by having the best around him. In fact, from Day 1, that's what he's worked to bring into the organization. I decided to look over the areas that our new coaches are responsible for, the teams that some of our coaches came from and how those teams are doing in the area that our new coaches left vacant. The results were impressive.
These are just a few of the results, but to me they are representative of the pattern. Josh McDaniels himself left the New England offensive coordinator's job. The Pats are struggling on offense. Part of this is natural - Tom Brady had a tough surgery last year and the adhesions still haven't broken down. They also are dealing with turnover on a large scale. Brady's not stepping into his throws the same way, a common post-surgical issue. Would Josh's coaching help? Perhaps. Is the Pats offense struggling a little more? Yes. No conclusion, here - just a fact.
Mike McCoy came to us from Carolina. I don't know what's gone on in Carolina, but this isn't the same team that played so well last season. Their offense is terrible. Could McCoy have been a factor in their success? Quite possibly. Has the offense diminished? Yes.
Mike Nolan came to us after being fired from a head coaching job in San Francisco. Mike Singletary is doing a heck of a job with them and starting to see results. I love Singletary and have since his playing days in Chicago as 'Samurai'. Nolan has changed the Broncos' ideas about defense and if there was a 'Coordinator of the Year' award, he should have gotten it already. No conclusion here, either, but Nolan deserves a lot of admiration right about now.
Wayne Nunnely vacated the defensive line coaching job in San Diego. He says that he wanted something new and we were lucky enough to get him. At the beginning of training camp, he was interviewed and in his terse, simple style he pointed out that it wasn't his job to pick the players - it was his job to tech them the techniques that would make them successful. He has. Our D-line is shocking people. I'm not at all surprised. I picked up a copy of Nunnely's teaching video on stunts and was instantly entranced. That man can teach. SD has suffered some injuries, but their D-line hasn't looked good, even before losing Jamal Williams.
Scott Priefer comes to us from Kansas City. They are struggling on special teams, but they are struggling everywhere. Still - he's been a godsend for the Broncos, who needed special teams help like a dying man in the desert needs water. Welcome, coach. Has the change, from where we were to where we are, been anything but a tribute to this man?
Don Martindale came to us from the depths of Oakland and is our linebackers coach. Hey, how are our linebackers doing this year? Anyone changed positions and found success? On the other side, how did the Oakland linebackers play on Sunday? Not so well...
Okay, their whole team melted down, but the point is still relevant. There is a pattern here - we are finding great success and the teams that lost out on our coaches are consistently not doing well in the areas that they vacated. Is it due to the coaches? I can't swear to it, but there is one heck of a coincidence going on if that's not the case.
Congratulations to Josh McDaniels for putting this team together, driving the changes to the Broncos and teaching them how to be winners. My hat is off to the man. He's only 33? Amazing....
I'll Trade You
Congratulations also to Renaldo Hill on his INT against OAK. It couldn't happen to a more deserving player.
Okay, what do you think? That the Miami Dolphins are happy that they refused to pay up some guaranteed money on Renaldo Hill to keep him around? Or do you think that they regret giving the cash to Gibril Wilson? Renaldo Hill has been part of one of the best secondaries in the NFL, with cornerbacks Champ Bailey, Andre' Goodman and Alphonso Smith and Hill joining the still-young Brian Dawkins at safety in front of newcomers Darcel McBath and David Bruton, while Wilson has become a target for opposing quarterbacks. Wilson's weaknesses were displayed for the nation on the Week 2 Monday Night Football contest between MIA and IND.
A simple, clear stat, courtesy of the Denver Post:
The Dolphins were 11-5 with Hill last year; 0-3 without him this year. The Broncos were 8-8 without Hill last year; 3-0 with him this year. It's simplistic, sure, but there's a kernel of truth. You could also look at the fact that the Broncos now have 8 defensive turnovers in 3 games. At this rate, they'll have exceeded last year's total before the bye. Again, is it Hill? No, not entirely. Has he been a force on the field? You bet. Watching film, Hill is consistently around the ball.
This one looks to me like a 'cut-off-your-nose-to-spite-your face' kind of situation in Miami. Do you think that the Fins would be willing to trade back right about now? Wilson was terrible in the loss to Indianapolis and didn't play well against San Diego, either. While Peyton Manning has made a lot of good players look bad over his career, that game was more than an off day for Wilson and he didn't bounce back this week against Philip Rivers, who is no slouch either. I don't think that it's unfair to note that with Wilson, when Al Davis isn't willing to throw money at a player, they usually often aren't much good to anyone else, either. Another free agency coup for the Broncos.
There has been some conversation in the media recently about a fact that has appeared in multiple sources including the BT&M from last week: Many teams in the NFL are now going to roughly the kind of offense that the Broncos are using, with an emphasis on the short passing game. It is based in an important change in the league - more and more safeties have sub-4.40 speed. With the swiftness and coverage skills that many of them have, you can't go deep as easily as in years past. That has two ramifications for Denver: First, it means a lot of playing time for 2nd-round draft pick Alphonso Smith at nickelback (hurry back, Alphonso).
Second, it explains something about Renaldo Hill of which many Broncos fans seem unaware. Renaldo was drafted in the 7th round (#202 overall) of the 2001 Draft by the Arizona Cardinals as a cornerback. He played left cornerback for them for 4 years and then spent a season in OAK at the same position on a one-year contract. After that, he took a three-year deal with MIA where he was moved to free safety to take advantage of his speed, size and cover skills. He has made improvement at that position each year, and has really just begun to play at what may be his best level. The Broncos are using his intelligence and skill set to best advantage, too - depending on the down, either he or Brian Dawkins may be playing a 'centerfield' role. Usually they divide the field and each is responsible for quarterbacking their side of the defense. The two veterans have no problem in communicating with each other, either, and this is a big reason that the secondary is playing so well.
Gibril Wilson didn't come to OAK until 2008. He'd been a strong safety and (in 2007) a free safety for the Giants since 2004. Still, it's odd how things work out, isn't it? The raiders missed out on Hill's best use and let him go; the Dolphins found it but they, too, let him go and the Broncos smiled broadly and said, "Thank you very much!", giving him a 4-year, $10 million contract to be paired with Brian Dawkins in a great tandem. Knowing exactly what you are looking for - in this case, a safety with speed and cornerback skills, seeing clearly why you want X players and giving them the best position to be successful are all keys to creating a team that wins consistently.
Despite our best wishes as fans, you can't force interceptions. You can only put yourself in the best position to snag them when the opportunity arises. The Broncos went up another plus-two in turnovers this week by doing just that. Congratulations to Andre' Goodman as well on his own INT, a man who is also missed by MIA - he's also playing at a very high level. Goodman is about $5 million per year that is very well spent.
Block and Tackle
I just re-watched the tape of Correll Buckhalter from Week 2, running for daylight to the tune of 45 yards and a TD, and compared that to some of the similar runs he made against Oakland. You know what really stood out? Beyond his skill and his ability to cut back at angles that confused and defeated defender after defender, that play (and several others) started with a hole formed by zone-blocking from Chris Kuper and Ryan Harris that you could have sailed the Queen Mary through, with room to spare. On the same drive at the 6-minute mark, Tony Scheffler took the Will LB out of the play with a great stand-up block. It's happening all over the field. This week, both Russ Hochstein and Tyler Polumbus also blocked well when they came in. At the opening drive of the second half (I couldn't see the number), the RB did a textbook job of picking up the blitz and taking his man out of the play. Daniel Graham had time to go underneath, over the middle and picked up yet another first down because of that block (with a nice throw by Kyle Orton).
As I looked through the tape of the games so far, one of the things that stood out was the improvement in fundamentals and physicality on both sides of the ball: blocking by the offense and tackling by the defense. Our blocking was usually good in 2008 but even with some of the goal-line breakdowns, it's been more physical than last year. It's true that the Broncos O-line was fairly brilliant in pass-blocking last season and by the latter part of the season, they were run-blocking almost equally well. But non-line individuals - and Tony Scheffler is a standout among them - have continued to improve. Brandon Marshall, of course is another fine example of a non-line player making the blocks for us, and he did it last season, too. The blocking has opened the road for Buckhalter, who is currently third in the league at 7.2 yards per gain. Buck also picked up the blitz at 4 minutes to go in the 3rd quarter - no one was open, but there was no sack, either. Solid, solid play.
After the game, Josh McDaniels commented, "I think a part of good tackling is angles. We do a lot of angle tackling drills in practice; most of the time we don't go all the way to the ground, now. We did in training camp. But when you're taking the proper angle, that's kind of half the battle to me...I think our guys understand leverage and angles..." Apparently so. "Draft picks? We always want to make sure that we're getting real good tacklers." Alphonso Smith was singled out - and for good reason. Tackling is being taught properly. There is a constant emphasis on fundamentals that seems 'new'. I loved learning Josh's thoughts on the technique of tackling and apparently, from the articles, a lot of us did. He's a heck of a communicator.
By the way, another draft pick, Darcel McBath has a team-high six special-teams tackles through three games. Another draft choice, another excellent tackler. He's going to fit right in. We're also co-leading the league, tied for first, with 10 sacks.
Tackling and blocking have a lot in common - physicality, a basis in attitude and the importance of technique being among those similarities. The improvement in defensive personnel certainly stands out, but the level of tackling by our team has shot up by tenfold this season. Whether it's Nolan, McDaniels, personnel, attitude, all of the above or something else, Denver is looking like a different team, and playing like one as well. What a great season!
SquashMaster Award
I've decided to give a little extra love each week to the player(s) who lead the team in tackles by establishing the weekly SquashMaster Award. This week, D.J. Williams took top honors with 7 tackles and a forced fumble that was recovered by Brian Dawkins. Congratulations, D.J.! In second place was Elvis 'Doom' Dumervil, who raised his season sack total to 6 and added 5 solo tackles for the team. Can Elvis extend his streak of sacks against the Dallas front five? Don't bet against him. By the way, Doom did just what was predicted in attacking the strong side and right tackle Cornell Green. He also moved around on both sides.
Many fans wondered at the beginning of the season how D.J. would react to moving into yet another position and whether he could bounce back after the less-than-stellar performance of 2008. Not to worry - D.J. is tearing up the league right now. It's also gratifying to see that a different player leads the team in tackles each week so far and all three have been among our veterans and leaders. Veteran leadership - what a concept!
Some may have missed a small thing that made a big difference - when Doom went after the fumble in the 2nd quarter, he couldn't pick the ball up but he did manage to tip it backwards. OAK recovered, but they were farther back and had lost more ground due to Elvis' heads-up play. Another play that reflects the principle of tipping the ball to control the game - we've had at least one each week.
Sack Stats
After 3 games, the theoretically immobile Kyle Orton has taken 3 sacks. Another perfectly good snarky theory bites the dust...Considering that both Cincinnati and Oakland's defensive fronts have been good at getting after the QB in their other games, that says a lot about our line. This isn't hot news, but it's nice to see, especially with the number of plays that our starters have sat out with one injury and another. Congrats, by the way, to Tyler Polumbus who played well in reserve, spelling Ryan Harris and to Russ Hochstein who spelled Ben Hamilton. The solid play of the line is an old Broncos tradition, by the way. Look at the stats since 2003:
Fewest sacks allowed in the NFL since 2003:
Team ... Sacks ... Yards
- Indianapolis ... 107 ... 643
- Denver ... 141 ... 854
- Green Bay ... 147 ... 1,019
- San Diego ... 163 ... 1,095
- New Orleans ... 172 ... 1,034
Iron Clady Redux
For perspective on Ryan Clady's streak at left tackle, there were 1,036 sacks in the NFL last year, or about 6.5 for every starting offensive lineman in the league. An average NFL offensive lineman gives up one sack about every 10 quarters. Clady has played every snap this season and last for the Broncos, who have passed 708 times over the past 80 quarters. He has given up only a half-sack, to then-Patriots end Richard Seymour whom he blanked in this week's contest, frustrating him in a way that lead to the 1st ever NFL Hair-Pulling Award. Stay classy, Richard. Asked about his actions, Seymour replied: "It was not a mistake, brother. Next question." Funny - I'm pretty sure that on the Broncos, costing the team 15 yards is considered a heck of a mistake. But that's the difference in the two teams.
Far more importantly, though, it's been 80 quarters since Clady's first regular season start and Ryan has given up 1/2 a sack? That's quite a stat. He has also tied the record for games without a full sack at 19. What a player he is!
It goes beyond his quick feet, size and long arms - Clady is both a brilliant technician and a brilliant tactician. Head Coach Josh McDaniels offered some unique insight on his intelligence. He said what impressed him about Clady was how he changes his approach from play-to-play; attacking the end on one play, then sits back and rides him away from the quarterback on the next.
"He's a smart player," McDaniels said. "He understands what the guy has seen from him already and what he hasn't and he mixes it up pretty well. A lot of people might ask, how much can a left tackle mix up his protection? You can and it's effective."
Clady commented (see below) that he didn't think that he played that well against Oakland. I don't even know what to say to that. The offensive line didn't give up a sack, didn't commit a penalty and blew open huge holes in the line for the running backs while giving Kyle Orton lots of time to throw. I guess that other than that, they probably didn't do that much. They didn't invent a perpetual motion machine on the sidelines during the game, or anything. Come to think of it, they didn't need to - the Broncos already have Dawkins.
By the way, on Buckhalter's huge run of 34 yards at 6:13 in the 2nd quarter, Hamilton and Clady sealed off their men perfectly, but the run was freed up with Harris, pulling all the way over to take out the weakside linebacker that freed Buckhalter on the play. Our run blocking is becoming a thing of great beauty. If you can, go back and watch the play. Wow.
Humility and Honor
There is a pattern to these Broncos that stands out when you look for it: Every player on the team gives the credit for their performances to others. Last week it was Dumervil and Andra Davis, each of whom was asked about their own performance and each of whom wanted to talk about the accomplishments of the other. When you talk to Alphonso Smith, he tells you about Champ Bailey and Brian Dawkins. Whether it's Kyle Orton giving credit for the offense to his line, backs and receivers, or Eddie Royal deflecting questions about his production by pointing to the plays it's opening up for the other receivers, this team seems to be the anti-ego. It's the antithesis of the me-driven locker room, the group that looks to their own stats before they look at their team's wins. It's a big reason that they have three wins to count. After the game, Darrell Reid was talking about the things that the defense didn't do well and how they need to improve. This is after holding Oakland to 3 points and 137 total yards. Perfection may not be attainable, but these men are going to try.
This week it was Dumervil again, this time giving credit to Ryan Clady for his own performance and sack totals. This is what he said:
"You know one of the reasons I get sacks on Sundays is (Ryan Clady). Going against him every day is hell," Dumervil said. "There's no other way to say it. He's athletic, long arms - pretty much the toughest tackle I've ever gone against. He's just special. He's going to be on that side for 20 years. He's athletic, he's smart, he has poise - he doesn't get rattled. There's not much you can beat him with."
Ryan's replay? "The way we practice, that's what I do (in games)." He then said, "I don't think I played that well." Well, only good enough to have another zero-sack day and to open huge holes for the running game. But, Dumervil got the last word:
"Both those guys - Harris and Clady - are tough, tough guys, but Clady is the guy I see every day, and if you break even sometimes, you think you won," said Doom. "I come into game days thinking the guy I'm playing isn't going to surprise me with something I haven't seen before because I was banging against Ryan Clady all week. We always go against each other; he doesn't go against anyone else and I don't go against anyone else. He gets me better, and I hope I get him better."
This is the kind of thing that defines a successful team. We know from various sources - mostly players, speaking later on condition of anonymity - that the locker room the past few years had been cursed with a kind of me-first attitude, with players showing a preference for their own individual stats over the outcome of the games. That has gone away. What you see now is a tendency to recognize the benefits of the team over the individual accords. Ironically, it leads to more and more individual as well as team accords. The way this team was designed and built constantly amazes me. It's also interesting to note that one of the best qualities of Kyle Orton - that he stays calm and doesn't rattle - is equally reflected in his left tackle. Those two aren't alone in that, which speaks very well for the team's ultimate potential.
Following the game, Josh McDaniels was asked how the Broncos could improve. On how to motivate his players this week, he said, "Just show them the film. We've got a 50 play cut-up that we'll watch during the squad meeting." He then gave a wry smile. "It's not all ribbons and bows...They saw it every week we played so far. 'Boy, if we'd only done these five or six things better, it could have been an even a better performance.' You don't have to convince them that they need to improve. They know they need to get better." That's the kind of thing that keeps a team grounded in reality, striving to get even better and ready for any opponent.
Ayers and Perception
Robert Ayers hasn't burned up the field in this, his rookie season. Coming late into training camp, as so many 1st-round rookies do, he quickly found himself behind the curve. He didn't play all that well at first and looked tentative. Following up on a comment to the effect that he 'hasn't shown up', I spent some time watching film from last Sunday. I had started to notice Ayers during the Week 2 game against Cleveland - he helped collapse the pocket, was in on some tackles, and seemed to be starting to find the ball. It's true that he only has one tackle, but there's more to playing than stats. Sunday, my initial impression had been that his play was even better. I went back to find a few examples. It didn't take long...
On the third play from scrimmage, 3rd and 13, it was Ayers who collapsed the pocket, hurrying Russell who completed the throw to his outlet for 8 yards when he needed 13. Nice play. Ayers had been contained by Cornell Green on the play before, but not this time. Interestingly, on this occasion he was lined up as a defensive tackle in a 4-3 set, going up against the double team of the center and Cooper Carlisle. He defeated it to pressure Russell, which is asking a lot of a 274-lb. rookie. By the way, I love the way we're using the 4-3 in long-yardage situations.
He came back in the second quarter, running across the field in a heads-up play to help tackle Zach Miller for a 12-yard gain on 3rd and 16. Without Ayers it could have been a first down. Ayers did have help on the tackle and wasn't credited it, but he hit Miller high while someone else (bad camera angle) held his legs.
But that was it for Ayers in the first quarter. Is that a problem? Not at all. Davis, Haggan, D.J., Reid and Doom are playing like champs. Ayers will only get time in rotation - we're playing so well that if he gets in, great. If not, great. I don't think that it's a knock on Ayers. He's behind a lot of guys in the depth chart who are just playing at a very high level. That's not a bad thing. It means that we're deep and strong.
He also came in for the last series in the half when we were in the nickel - both Ayers and Wesley Woodyard were in. Woodyard stuffed Michael Bush for a loss on the final play of the half - Ayers stayed at home, held his gap and did what he was supposed to. The play just didn't go at him. He also made a nice stop (see picture above) on Bush. Give the man a little time.
Final Notes
Orton, McDaniels and the Goal Line Stand. While I was watching the replays of the game on NFL Rewind, I noted something: Orton is becoming deadly over the middle. It brought up an interesting point that sent me back to the film and statistics from last season: Chicago didn't believe that and wouldn't call much in the way of passes over the middle when Orton was there. Out of 455 passes he threw last season, only 54 were thrown over the middle, which might have, in part, been a personnel issue. I've mentioned before that Orton at times throws a flat pass, but look at these numbers. Go figure. In one way, you can understand why they thought that - Orton was only at a 53.7% completion rate over the middle and had a 5.56 INT rate there - but there must have been a scheme and/or personnel issue that influenced this. Orton has been excellent over the middle all season, and seems to be getting even better each game. His passing has always been strongest to the left side/weak side, by the way. It will be interesting to watch his distribution as the season progresses.
Some folks have questioned Josh McDaniels' call for four rushing plays down on the goal line on the first drive and I wanted to touch on that quickly. I liked his response and wanted to include it here:
"We were all disappointed," McDaniels said about the series. "When you're down there that tight, you want to give your football team an opportunity to get it in. And if we have that same opportunity come up next week, we'd do it again, and we'll get it in. We'll work hard to fix the things we didn't get right there and push that thing in."
That covers it. Hochstein, by the way, was the lead blocker and never got to the goal line, so the RB could not, either. We'll need to fix that. Statistically, by the way, you score on such a series about 50% of the time, although you strive for more, and therefore you can get 7-14 points instead of the 6 if you kick both field gals. There's another reason, though, that you go for it - this team doesn't believe that anyone can stop it twice. They were right and got the next one with a passing route underneath by Marshall in that same mismatch with Morrison. I like that attitude.
Home against Dallas - In the upcoming contest, Dallas will be a good test for the Broncos, but I'm taking the home team. Dallas isn't strong enough on both sides of the ball to convince me otherwise and it's my impression that we match up well with them. Consider this:
While they have a good offense, they can get rattled. Tony Romo still needs to prove that he has the calm that Kyle Orton is known for. While I have a lot of respect for the Dallas offensive front line, I have just as much or more for Doom and the Devastators. Felix Jones is a great running back but apparently won't play, We've played the run quite well overall so far. I'm not as impressed with their pass blocking. Our secondary is playing well, despite the fact that other teams are constantly throwing the ball and playing catch-up; they're tackling well, covering well and starting to see the inevitable INTs. The Dallas secondary has weaknesses that can be exploited. Our offense is doing well in the passing and rushing attacks, and special teams have been very special. We could get more long run-backs if we don't seal the edges, but other than that, I've got very few criticisms.
They have a good D-line that isn't producing - we have Mt. Clady and Friends. DeMarcus Ware has continued to disappear, even against Carolina. The 'Boys finally got a few sacks against a woeful O-line of the Panthers but they haven't shown me that they can dominate even a weaker team. Rookie linebacker Victor Butler broke out with 2 sacks and a forced fumble and the Broncos will need to account for him but he was only on the field for 5 plays. I'm comfortable with this Rick Dennison-coached group. They are on the road and Orton is what - 16-2 at home? This is a new Broncos squad that can take on the best and at least be competitive.
Romo can be deadly in a single game. Against Carolina, he was efficient but not showy and he didn't get a single TD throw. The Cowboys only put up 13 points on offense. Ronald Fields has been clogging the middle effectively against the run. Marcus Thomas has been a more than serviceable second-string NT - he has been in for rushing as well as passing downs now. They will be game-planning for Doom, but seriously - that gets you Davis, Dawkins, Reid, D.J. and Haggan with less obstacles.
On the other side - the holes that Kuper and Harris are opening have been enormous and Russ Hochstein and Tyler Polumbus played just fine in relief. Right now, we expect Harris to play. If Harris is not in, they will game-plan to put pressure on Polumbus/Hochstein and to be honest - I'm looking forward to see how they handle it. Polumbus in particular has looked great in the small amounts I've seen him. I've love to see him in a test game. The Dallas D-line and front seven are noticeably smaller than our squad. Dallas committed 9 penalties against Carolina and gave up 3 TDs to Tampa Bay. These numbers don't scare me.
I see it as a potentially tough game, but very winnable. McD is famous for making great adjustments during gametime, and that's a big advantage. I don't think that Wade Phillips is in Josh's ballpark as a head coach. We now have an advantage in McD and Nolan that just doesn't quit.
Prediction: I'm calling for a win, but it could still be a close game, perhaps about 27-20. IIf they put their team together on the road they can give us a run for the money, but I expect them to fall short. If our defense plays as well as it can, we'll win going away.
Go Denver!
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WOW!
I’ll have to safe this and read this post this weekend when I have time. What an effort! Thanks for making MHR such a great place…
Bleeding Orange & Blue in The Netherlands
by BroncosNL on Oct 1, 2009 5:57 AM MDT reply actions 0 recs
Great piece
Doom and the Devastators. Sounds like an Iron Maiden cover band. I love it.
by Coverboy on Oct 1, 2009 6:06 AM MDT reply actions 0 recs
Well, if you can't be punk rock
I guess metal will have to do. Better names for football, anyway.
It is an excellent stage name, but inside the building, I don’t think it gets better than Nolan’s “a Wall” which Holliday let us in on in the DB article:
http://www.denverbroncos.com/page.php?id=334&storyID=9416
"Life is a daring adventure or nothing" - Helen Keller
"He will always be a slave who does not know how to live upon a little" Horace
by PositivIntegral on Oct 1, 2009 6:43 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Great job Bear and rec'd!
You make a great observation about Orton and his throws over the middle. At Purdue, that was definitely one of his strengths in the Tiller offense.
by rocko1 on Oct 1, 2009 6:09 AM MDT reply actions 0 recs
Unbelievable Doc....your best ever!
Those that cant coach, compete!
Failing to plan is planning to fail.
All I want is 53 Rod Smiths. Is that asking too much????
"Peyton Hillis didn’t rip the sleeves off his jersey, they flew off out of fear."
Calijoefornia.
by boydy2669 on Oct 1, 2009 6:09 AM MDT reply actions 0 recs
I second that.... simply amazing.
I should have been doing some serious work… but I just couldn’t stop reading.
Good thing I’m the boss.
"So tell me what happened."
"Well, the last thing I remember is seeing this flash of Blue and Orange and the #22... then everything just went black..."
by HillisRanUover on Oct 1, 2009 9:47 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Makes me think of the digital short
Like a Boss. SNL crew
by _Atwater27 on Oct 1, 2009 1:48 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
I wanted to comment on something...
You wrote, "They also got me thinking. McDaniels, unlike many coaches, isn’t intimidated by having the best around him. In fact, from Day 1, that’s what he’s worked to bring into the organization. "
I have a bit of a saying for this:
First rate managers hire first rate people; second rate managers hire third rate people.
(By the term “rate” I merely refer to the capacity, leadership and overall skill-set of the person, though it definitely includes the person’s internal makeup, because there absolutely is a difference)
I have been observing this phenomenon in human relationships for quite some time. I am certain it ties into what reflection of him or herself each individual wants to show those around him. Some want to be seen as competent, great, or even “the best.”
However, If you want to see yourself as the best, to the exclusion of others, then you are going to hire those you ffel are inferior to yourself, as to open the potential of being second-best.
Then there are those that want to be their own best. They rarely, if ever, use other people as a barometer for their own success. They set, adjust and strive to reach their own goals, and are quite capable of giving him or herself a fair judgement, and adjusting accordingly.
I would be willing to bet that McD is one of these, and he is quite willing to let others have the spotlight because his own reward is within himself. He does not need it to come from an external source (media, money, fame etc). Accordingly, he will hire others that are the same (first rate people). And each man, also, possesses his own system of reward, or origination of motivation.
by Mhantra on Oct 1, 2009 7:38 AM MDT reply actions 3 recs
Great points Mhantra...
I have a saying like that too…
“Mediocrity hires mediocrity.”
It comes down to average people not hring or surrounding themselves with better people for fear of making themselves look stupid, usurping their own authority or fear someone they hire will tae their job.
Does this ring a bell Mike SHanahan? SHanny never hired good staff for fear of undermining his own power….McDaniels is the complete opposite.
A person will surround themselves with good, smart poeple when they have confidence that they are one of the good, smart people….go figure!
Those that cant coach, compete!
Failing to plan is planning to fail.
All I want is 53 Rod Smiths. Is that asking too much????
"Peyton Hillis didn’t rip the sleeves off his jersey, they flew off out of fear."
Calijoefornia.
by boydy2669 on Oct 1, 2009 7:52 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Shanny never hired good staff?
So you don’t think Alex Gibbs or Gary Kubiak were any good? Ray Rhodes? Jim Bates? There are certainly things to criticize Shanny for, but “never hired good staff” isn’t one of them – “fire good staff to take the fall for poor performance” might be a better description.
by Gorbal on Oct 1, 2009 8:49 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Really Gorbal???
Brings Bates in, sets him up for success and fires him.
Alex Gibbs: the reason that Gibbs left and does not have a relationship with Shanahan is that Shanny micro managed him.
Kubiak,,,fair.
Rhodes….left with a falling out again.
Dennison and Turner lasted, thankfully for us…but you are speaking a handful of coaches out of over a 100 hrings that Shanahan has done.
Wnating to hold on to Slowik? Priceless!!!
It does not matter, it is done….but Shanahan could have SAVED his job if he went got Nolan straight away last year…but he did not.
Just my point of view!
Thanks Gorbal.
Those that cant coach, compete!
Failing to plan is planning to fail.
All I want is 53 Rod Smiths. Is that asking too much????
"Peyton Hillis didn’t rip the sleeves off his jersey, they flew off out of fear."
Calijoefornia.
by boydy2669 on Oct 1, 2009 9:01 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sets hi up for NO success.....left out the no...sorry about that!
Those that cant coach, compete!
Failing to plan is planning to fail.
All I want is 53 Rod Smiths. Is that asking too much????
"Peyton Hillis didn’t rip the sleeves off his jersey, they flew off out of fear."
Calijoefornia.
by boydy2669 on Oct 1, 2009 9:02 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
It is difficult to really know...
When you are looking at a person’s intermal makeup within a large group, these types of things can be covered up, particularly if they are part of a successful situation.
For example, in the company I work for, there are now about 200 employees (off-lease computer refurb/sales). The company has been around for 25 years, and is the epitome of a single man creating a successful company out of ashes and doom (quite a story, and a tribute to him).
However, as the recession his, and things were stressed, some enormous deficiencies have surfaced and become very apparent. The company is not doing anywhere near as well, and it is because the buffer that was always there (strong market for the product, good economy) has dwindled.
How people react to this will show their true makeup, and from my perspective, there ar some horrible mistakes being made. Ideas from the people who work the front lines, so to say, and being publicly criticized. People aren’t being used to their potential, and those who have been around for a while, as much of a liability as they are, are given more power and heavier weight given to their ideas, even though they are absolutely terrible and ill-though out.
I don’t pretend to know if Shanny is one type or another. What I am pointing out, though, is that the quality guys he did have may have actually had their potential squelched, and they were successful despite him, rather than because of him. Again, I don’t know, but those things do happen.
by Mhantra on Oct 1, 2009 9:01 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hi boydy, Mhantra, no disrespect to coach Shanahan,
he’s a great coach, but in his later years ( pulling from memory )
Didn’T he put in a master camera setup, where he could watch
all the meetings from his office?
In his later years, with his plate overflowing with responsibility,
I believe he tried to coach thru intimidation and good guy reward
system, and quite frankly became overwhelmed.
Real Power, comes with the realization that One cannot change the Moment;
only ones perception of it: Atitude! JQM
by UB3 on Oct 1, 2009 9:28 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
It did seem to come to that
I think he may learn from the firing, though. I am hoping he can be paired up with a compatible GM and make another go at coaching, I always liked him. I hadn’t heard about the camera, but if he has a bunch of players reacting to a chaotic environment, he may have felt it neccesary to exercise more overt control. Heck, in some circumstances, this is the right move. However, it will never be the move that will result in optimum results.
I guess I always felt like more chaos was introducted to the team each year, and maybe, like you say, with more responsibility and overflowing platedness, he got desperate.
I imagine if he had hired the right people, and encouraged them to do their jobs without overt and micromanagerial control, he may not have become so overwhelmed.
by Mhantra on Oct 1, 2009 9:37 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Enjoyed the discussion Mhanta, Gorbal, boydy, and UB3
This is a part of the re-creation of our team that I think is almost completely missed by fans (and MSM) not accessing MHR. I LOOOOOOVE this site!
by idahobronc on Oct 1, 2009 4:05 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thanks for chiming in
If you watch a lot of MSM, I notice that it is very rare for them to ever break down teams based on anything but skill-set and tangible football behavior.
Honestly, this can also be good stuff, but it really isn’t the most meaningful part of football, as far as results go. And yes, I agree Idahobronc, it is almost completely missed, which explains why it is catching people off guard. My sister (wink), who I watch the game with sometimes, had only seen one football game, the first one, and she started mentioning that they seem different somehow. She noticed a sense of self-discipline.
And she doesn’t even follow the Broncos via Internet, TV or otherwise, only watches the games (she has NFL Sunday Ticket…how better to bring sister and brother together!).
by Mhantra on Oct 1, 2009 9:22 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
That is fantastic.
A far more succinct wording of the concepts that we both seem to notice. Thanks for that.
by Mhantra on Oct 1, 2009 9:23 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm still reading, but we scored 27 and 23 respectively, not 17 and 23. heh
back to the reading baby!!
Verbose in style, dispersion of thought, procrastination in life.
by Tim Lynch on Oct 1, 2009 7:42 AM MDT reply actions 0 recs
I'm much smarter this morning...
The steam is coming off of my head!
This weekend is Bike to the Bay for MS and I am going to ride extra fast to get home early and put this Broncos inspired to use. Thank you!
All Ready!
by precisiontint on Oct 1, 2009 7:44 AM MDT reply actions 0 recs
Great post Bear!
I predict 30-7 (Broncos with 30 of course).
by NDbronco on Oct 1, 2009 7:54 AM MDT reply actions 0 recs
I admire your optimism
but that final would stun me. I’ll be stoked with a 3 to 7 point win. This should be a close game. I have total faith in the Broncos and think they’ll just be getting better but Dallas is a very solid team. I would be surprised if this isn’t a close game either way. Don’t know why the point spread isn’t pick ‘em (Dallas is favored by a few). But I’d be stoked if you were right!
The commenter formerly known as "Dashiell".
by underdog on Oct 1, 2009 10:23 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Epic read man!
Wish I could say more, but I really need to get to work now!! heheh
Verbose in style, dispersion of thought, procrastination in life.
by Tim Lynch on Oct 1, 2009 8:02 AM MDT reply actions 0 recs
Quick thought on this year's defense vs. last years.
That’s one of the hallmarks of our defense – everyone does his job and everyone trusts the guys next to him to do theirs.
The issue of trust really got me thinking about last year…
If those players DIDN’T trust each other to take care of their assignments and gap responsibilities, then I think THAT was the biggest determinant of last years utter defensive failure. When the talent level is low, the trust level is low, and players start to think rather than react, communication and cohesion start to fall apart very quickly.
What an stark contrast with this years defense!
DP Message Board Refugee & Drinker of Kool-Aid
I don’t like quarterbacks. - DOOM
by jubei on Oct 1, 2009 8:04 AM MDT reply actions 0 recs
Oh, and fantastic post, too!
I’m going to have to break it up into smaller chunks to avoid getting busted at work!
Rec’d fo’ sho!
DP Message Board Refugee & Drinker of Kool-Aid
I don’t like quarterbacks. - DOOM
by jubei on Oct 1, 2009 8:05 AM MDT reply actions 0 recs
Awesome.
Read and enjoyed every word. Thanks for the cogent analysis Bear.
I enjoyed all of it, like I said, but if I had to name my favorite bit it might be the end. I’ll take McD and Nolan against Philips and the Jones’s any day!
by NedBronco on Oct 1, 2009 8:19 AM MDT reply actions 0 recs
As is is said to the D-line ...
Great stuff! Thanks for all the information. There’s a lot to process in what you’ve put down here, but the 3 points I picked out were: Teams that play on reputation are not as good as teams that play on talent and planning; a team of very talented individuals is not as good as a team of good team-mates; and humility might just be the magic ingredient in the Broncos’ formula this year. Thanks for another great read!
by 42n81 on Oct 1, 2009 8:22 AM MDT reply actions 0 recs
Bear
Still reading, but man, nice one!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I hope you’ve finally emerged from underneath the NFL Rewind tape!
Again, excellent as usual.
Smokey, my friend, you are entering a world of pain.
by TJ Johnson on Oct 1, 2009 8:52 AM MDT reply actions 0 recs
You know Doc, its always a pleasure to read your work, I always walk away
with an ah – ha feeling that lasts throughout the week.
I have a question/comment.
If the highest respect you can give a player is, to call
him a FootBall Player…
Then by the same standards, would’nt respect for the
coach/s be a complete FootBall Coach?
By the way, I heard expresso is the drink of choice this
week in the backfield.
Also I haven’t read the comments yet, but did’nt Mario
Haggens get drafted as a Sam in a 4/3?
Very Rec’d
Real Power, comes with the realization that One cannot change the Moment;
only ones perception of it: Atitude! JQM
by UB3 on Oct 1, 2009 9:05 AM MDT reply actions 0 recs
Yes, he did
By Buffalo, pick 228, 2003 draft. Interesting, isn’t it? Every year, folks will decide what players are and aren’t good by their draft position. Every year, some of the 7th round players will anchor good teams and some 1st round players will drift off into nothingness. One criticism that I heard when we picked him up was, “He was only a 7th rounder”. He sure was – heck of a player, too.
Hillis/Moreno in '09
by Emmett Smith on Oct 1, 2009 9:59 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
that statement reminds me of a few other late rounders....
12th round 1983 (310th overall) Karl Mecklenburg…..6th round (196th overall) 1995 Terrell Davis…..10th round (263rd overall) 1989 Mark Schlereth….just to name a few…..nothing good comes from the later rounds….. hmmmmmmmmmm……well I guess it seemed like a logical argument for some folks anyway…..
"The question that sometimes drives me hazy, Am I or the others crazy?" -Albert Einstein
by Disturbed70 on Oct 1, 2009 5:04 PM MDT up reply actions 1 recs
In reards to the coaching staff
Didn’t we get Clancy Barone (Tight Ends) from SD?
It definitely looks like we raided the staffs of our division rivals (coincidence?).
I like the fact that it is both addition, and addition-by-subtraction!
DP Message Board Refugee & Drinker of Kool-Aid
I don’t like quarterbacks. - DOOM
by jubei on Oct 1, 2009 9:18 AM MDT reply actions 0 recs
Yes
He coached Antonio Gates and developed a very good, three-deep group that is one of the SD strengths
Hillis/Moreno in '09
by Emmett Smith on Oct 1, 2009 10:04 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
It does look like we pillaged our rivals staffs
Exactly! Addition for us with a bonus of subtraction for them!
YAAAR! Pillaging be the Capt. McDaniels way!
"Take what you can. Give nothing back!"
by Colorado_Kitten on Oct 1, 2009 12:06 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
YAAAR!
Pillage by invitation to cross over!
“ARGH! WOULD YOU LIKE TO JOIN ME TEAM, AND EARN YESELF MORE RESPECT AND SUCCESS?!!
by Mhantra on Oct 1, 2009 9:27 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nothing more piratical than a good mutiny
And we get to see it played out next week when the young swashbuckler takes on the tired but grizzled old salt.
This Cap’n McD thing has legs.
Props for some very well argued situational psychology above, by the way.
"Life is a daring adventure or nothing" - Helen Keller
"He will always be a slave who does not know how to live upon a little" Horace
by PositivIntegral on Oct 1, 2009 9:49 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
Longest. Article. Ever.
And I loved every word of it! Fantastic article, rec’d’ded, great work, thank you and keep it up!
by aLuffabo on Oct 1, 2009 9:55 AM MDT reply actions 0 recs
It seems like I read an article in MHR...
…every week that is so great that it becomes one of the best articles I can recall. Once again BroncoBear has raised the bar, once again he’s proven that those who love the game write better than those who are paid, and once again I’ve been humbled by the all-star cast that has come on board MHR over the last couple of years.
There aren’t enough salmon in the world for this worthy bear.
"Greater is an army of sheep led by a lion, than an army of lions led by a sheep" Defoe
by Steve Nichols on Oct 1, 2009 10:00 AM MDT reply actions 4 recs
I'll eat all that I can get.....
Thanks, HT!
Hillis/Moreno in '09
by Emmett Smith on Oct 1, 2009 10:02 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Dammit Doc
I’ll kill a couple for you next year and send them down air fresh.
It all starts in the trenches - HT 11/11/08
Leave the hateful vitriol to the uninformed - HT 3/16/09
by firstfan on Oct 1, 2009 7:26 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Grin! If you're looking for me to object
It’ll be a long wait, first fan. How have you been keeping yourself?
Hillis/Moreno in '09
by Emmett Smith on Oct 1, 2009 8:13 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree with HT.
Now it’s his turn with Chalk Talk.
If this be Hell, let us make the most of it!
by Trinidad Jack on Oct 1, 2009 2:13 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree TJ, but I believe HT will hit one out of the park,
Chalk Talk is a a staple here at MHR.
We have so many great writers here it just gives
me little bronco bumps…lol
Real Power, comes with the realization that One cannot change the Moment;
only ones perception of it: Atitude! JQM
by UB3 on Oct 1, 2009 2:30 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Holy Toledo.
That really was epic broncobear. Thanks for the read!
There is only One Moment—this moment—the Eternal Moment of Now
by sirsam on Oct 1, 2009 10:12 AM MDT reply actions 0 recs
Enjoyed 2 cups of coffee
and hated to stop reading to get up for the second.I really enjoyed this and will read it again before MHR radio tonight,it was that good.How do you rec articles here anyway?
Just say Rec or is there somewhere you click?I’ve wanted to Rec before but don’t see where.
I love coming here for articles.The papers just don’t have the full 1 or 2 page stories like they did before internet where you’d anticipate every tidbit and read slowly enjoying a coffee or 2.You just don’t get this stuff and quality anywhere else.
Thanks so much for this Bear and all the rest of you great writers for this sport section that doesn’t kill trees.
by Broncolorado on Oct 1, 2009 10:13 AM MDT reply actions 2 recs
The rec is below the article
Below the Mile High Report icon (the line below it is various links and how many comments, and below that is the next line, which has the rec…mine says unrec right now…heh)
by Mhantra on Oct 1, 2009 10:31 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
and you can rec a comment
by hitting the “actions” button and then the rec.
by idahobronc on Oct 1, 2009 4:58 PM MDT up reply actions 1 recs
I'll rec that...lol
Hillis/Moreno in '09
by Emmett Smith on Oct 1, 2009 4:59 PM MDT up reply actions 1 recs
Unbelievable
This is the best article on the Broncos I have read all season. What a treat doc!
I can’t even discuss the content, I’m too overflowing with joy about the pleasure it was to read this.
by studbucket on Oct 1, 2009 10:17 AM MDT reply actions 0 recs
I will say one thing about the offensive line, they are better with Kuper than with Hochstein. Hochstein looks good in spot duty but I wouldn’t like to have him play full games, Kuper is just flat out better, he is quicker, stronger and on pass plays especially Kuper never seems to move backwards, if he has to move because he is being pressed he tends to slide sideways so the pocket remains intact.
by gyldenlove on Oct 1, 2009 10:55 AM MDT reply actions 0 recs
I agree
I thought that the way Hochstein played in relief of Hamilton was telling – he’s a good guard. But Kuper is far better than he often gets credit for and Hochstein isn’t on his level. Perhaps next year Seth Olsen will be ready to step up, but right now, we’re going to have to hope that Kuper stays healthy.
Hillis/Moreno in '09
by Emmett Smith on Oct 1, 2009 11:25 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Great breakdown, Bear
You just keep outdoing yourself.. just like the Broncos! Your take on our O line is excellent.
Thanks, Bear.. UPS will be delivering a salmon, 2nd day air! Rec’d.+
" Life is what happens while you're making other plans "
by hairybear on Oct 1, 2009 11:00 AM MDT reply actions 0 recs
Holy crap that was an excellent write up. Rec'd for sure!
So much great information and thoughts in that post. A few thoughts of my own:
- Picking up two secondary players from the same team can be a risk, but in our case their familiarity with each other and work ethic has really provided something special. Great balance to Dawk and Champ on the other side. I couldn’t be more thrilled with the secondary play.
- That run you describe, Buckhalter’s huge run of 34 yards at 6:13 in the 2nd quarter, brought a tear to my eye. Perfectly executed trap play on the LB with nothing but grass to the end-zone. We were very close to scoring there. Hope to see much more of that to come.
It feels so good to have a fundamentally solid football team, win or lose. I forgot what that was like the past few years. Cowboys will be a test, but with Josh and the dedication of our players, I know we will be prepared to play.
by DBronx777 on Oct 1, 2009 11:08 AM MDT reply actions 0 recs
Wow
Excellent writeup bear. I was just going to go back and watch the Broncs-Faders game but the file got corrupted somehow. Thanks for all the detail.
Richard Seymour is a girl.
by pubkeeper on Oct 1, 2009 11:30 AM MDT reply actions 0 recs
What else can I say but WOW
That is one great post and I haven’t gotten all the way through yet. Good stuff.
2009 NBA Champions L.A Lakers
2009 NBA Finals MVP Kobe Bryant
by weazel on Oct 1, 2009 11:34 AM MDT reply actions 0 recs
Speechless
no words, bear. no words.
Rec’s of course. Sending you some salmon with cheese.
Go Broncos!
by Royal With Cheese on Oct 1, 2009 11:51 AM MDT reply actions 0 recs
Ummm....cheese.....lol
Hillis/Moreno in '09
by Emmett Smith on Oct 1, 2009 12:39 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Awsome
Thanks, Great read… Can we get one of these Daily? but like longer, so I don’t have to waste time with other articles at all.
by GreasyQtip on Oct 1, 2009 12:01 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
wow
Epic. Rec’d. Thanks Bear! There is too much in this to really even pick something to comment on! What constitution!
"Take what you can. Give nothing back!"
by Colorado_Kitten on Oct 1, 2009 12:11 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
My day has been fulfilled!
../and its only morning here in Hawaii! Definitely Rec’d
"I can do all things through HIM who gives me strength"
"And you KNOW(shon) this...man!!!"
by BroncoCountryHawaii on Oct 1, 2009 12:25 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
If you're worried about Ayers, don't be.
Says LB coach Don Martindale. He’s coming along just fine, “he’s right on schedule.” (Just posted on the CS Gazette.)
Martindale offered an example: Against the Browns, Ayers’ responsibility on certain plays was to "set the edge," or keep the quarterback contained in the pocket. Ayers held his ground against Cleveland Pro Bowl left tackle Joe Thomas. Dumervil benefited with a four-sack day.
"That was able to free up Elvis Dumervil, along with everybody else," Martindale said. "If he doesn’t play his role in that pass rush, in that situation, Brady Quinn is able to get out of the pocket. There’s things like that, times that we ask him to do a lot of different things other than just rush the passer or setting the edge of the defense. I’m really excited about him."
The Broncos admit Ayers isn’t a finished product. He’s still learning the nuances of the defense and of playing outside linebacker after being primarily a defensive end in college. Martindale said Ayers is working in a positive direction toward becoming a full-time starter, but all of Denver’s starting linebackers ahead of him are playing well.
The commenter formerly known as "Dashiell".
by underdog on Oct 1, 2009 12:40 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
Nice find, ud
Yes, he’s going to be a very good player. He’s also learning three positions, at least part time: He’s usually an OLB, but has lined up at De and DT on other occasions. That, too, is going to take some time.
Hillis/Moreno in '09
by Emmett Smith on Oct 1, 2009 1:06 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ayers' value
Much of the value at certain positions won’t translate into statistics, and there aren’t many statistics on the defensive side anyways.
Team success comes from somewhere, but the individual performances that lead to that team success are largely unmeasured, although we can infer them from team success.
Jon Bena offered some prescient comments before the Cleveland game regarding how we could (did) use Dumervil. He sacked the QB, in the situations that I noticed, from the strong side. Presumably, Ayers played at the weakside OLB on some of those plays, although I didn’t notice so I’d like to hear from others on this.
Our depth situation at OLB allows us to implement the available talent in a number of ways, so we’ll have to settle for team success (I assume you’ve all seen these metrics) along with some stellar individual statistics for other players, which are produced through the help of teammates.
"spontaneous method of irrational knowledge based on the critical and systematic objectivity of the associations and interpretations of delirious phenomena." - Dalí
by Colinski on Oct 1, 2009 4:48 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
On Ayers - You're right
Her did collapse the weak side, repeatedly, when he was in. That’s what they asked him to do and without it doom might not have gotten his sacks. Martindale is very happy with him and that should tell folks a lot.
Hillis/Moreno in '09
by Emmett Smith on Oct 1, 2009 4:56 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
you're a champ Bear
rec’d
you already know.
by justwhytee on Oct 1, 2009 12:43 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
Wow
What an extremely thorough, well researched article. I am forwarding this to some of the H8ters I know. This speaks to the issues far better than I ever could. Great job.
by TheMastermind on Oct 1, 2009 1:10 PM MDT via mobile reply actions 0 recs
Passes over the middle
I don’t blame Orton on those passes.Sometimes its just the way it is over the middle. How many times did Elway lead Eddie Mac into a defender? Does people have a problem with the way Elway passed the ball? Then whats the deal with Orton?
"Sanity is the realization that everyone is insane to some degree." Me
by 3nS on Oct 1, 2009 1:17 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
If the Duke did not lead him
Eddie Mac would find a safety’s shoulder to hit with his ribcage anyway. I think it stands out with Orton because almost everything else is near-clinical incl. the throwaways.
Kyle has come a long way from the naysayers early opinions to be called out for something every QB in the league is guilty of.
"Life is a daring adventure or nothing" - Helen Keller
"He will always be a slave who does not know how to live upon a little" Horace
by PositivIntegral on Oct 1, 2009 9:59 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
Yes, I agree
Have you noticed the lack of fans of a certain other team coming over to tell us that Orton can’t throw, can’t run and can’t play the game? Hmmm…perhaps, uncomfortable as it is, Orton just wasn’t used very well by his former employer. He sure is doing a good job so far.
Hillis/Moreno in '09
by Emmett Smith on Oct 1, 2009 10:26 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Great writing, again. Deep.
I come away inspired and enlightened. I feel somewhat guilty about taking all this for free. That was over 9000 words! There’s HOURS AND HOURS of work in that. The value is huge. The esteem and adulation you get from us is some compensation, and it’s obviously a labour of love, but somehow sending you virtual salmon doesn’t seem like enough.
I know this sounds kind of mercenary, but I’d be willing to contribute financially if that helped maintain your enthusiasm for producing this type of art. Really, it’s unique in the world, and I value it. Thank you, honoured friend.
"Remember, it's only a game."
by robswenson on Oct 1, 2009 1:19 PM MDT reply actions 1 recs
Thank you, rob
And the rest of you. I’m sure John will take note (grin), but personally, I don’t need a dime to do what I like to do. I like to break down film, I like to do research and I like to write. Thanks to my situation there, I get to do all of them. You folks catch me when I miss something and bring in new perspectives when I find a resonance. For those of you who have kindly asked, I am starting to get paid from time to time, and that’s nice, but it won’t interfere with MHR any time soon. My enthusiasm level isn’t a concern, I assure you.
This is a rare experience in many ways. I’ve run clinics, schools and a few companies but here I get to constantly learn more from the folks we have on the site. The members article mean a lot to me, as does their feedback. Thanks – but without the membership, this wouldn’t matter that much and I would enjoy it far less.
Hillis/Moreno in '09
by Emmett Smith on Oct 1, 2009 1:49 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Can't pay for quality like this.
Reminds me of a story. A great martial arts instructor was teaching students for free. His students greatly respected and loved him and kept trying to give him money. He explained to them if he started doing it for money there was no way they could afford him.
by Dwhite on Oct 1, 2009 9:25 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Gotta go to bed and there's too much substance to digest in a few minutes
so will rec this and finish reading later. Fantastic piece. Your articles just get better and better.
"Surprised to see you, Captain, though pleased." — from Star Trek episode Space Seed.
by spock on Oct 1, 2009 1:32 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
Well Doc, you've simply done such a thorough job
That there isn’t anything left to say. Holy moly my friend, this is an amazing essay with so much depth and clarity. I’m putting you up for the Pulitzer!
Imagination is more important than knowledge. A. Einstein
by Ponderosa on Oct 1, 2009 2:24 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
WOW Bear...Un-Freakin-Believeable
Had to read it in 4 parts because I’m at work, but that is just a FANtastic piece…You have truly out done yourself…
Thanks
by BroncoSense72 on Oct 1, 2009 2:30 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
Aces, Mr. Bear!
Even my know it all brother was impressed with your in depth article. Haha! Love ya. Cheryl
by St. James Bronc on Oct 1, 2009 3:22 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
Hi, Cheryl!
Nice to have you stop by, always!
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by Emmett Smith on Oct 1, 2009 4:28 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
re: demand at ILB
I always liked Rey and I thought that he’d do well in the NFL. I didn’t think that the Broncos would like him only because of his style of play. He can be undisciplined at times
Let me reiterate a point — the ILB position has had very few players chosen in the early (i.e., 1st round, etc.) portion of the draft in recent years. I posted a link to an article on this subject, and the gist of that article was that NFL teams simply don’t find enough value at that position, and the author showed the draft position of MLB/ILB picks in the last five years to prove his point.
Maualuga was worth a reasonably high pick but not as high as most believed. His ‘fit’ into our system was a problem, but it’s not the only reason we — and other teams — passed him over. Mike Mayock’s question: “Is he a 3-down player?” — addresses part of the problem. Pass defense doesn’t make highlight clips but it’s an important skill when considering justifying a high pick.
One of the best ways of illustrating how MLB/ILBs have dropped in value is to compare the ‘inside’ backers to ‘outside’ backers. OLBs are much more in demand than ILBs, and pass rushing ability is a big part of why, besides pass coverage abilities which allow 3-down utilization.
NFL football has changed dramatically from the days when teams ran-first and made no secret about the fact. The MLBs of yore — Butkus, Nitschke, etc. — played important roles in a time when the game was played differently, but it’s not played that way anymore. Teams still run the ball — quite certainly — but LBs need to do far more in order to justify their place on the field, as well as in the draft. Even a player as great as Randy Gradishar was removed on obvious passing downs late in his career, although his run-stopping ability was unequaled.
An aside — we were a little too self-congratulatory in our appraisals of our 2008 draft. Part of the story behind the availability of Hillis and Larsen is that they played at positions of low demand. Hillis probably drifted down 2 rounds, since his skill set allows him to be utilized in a number of ways, but his continuing availability late in the draft was no big surprise. The demand at FB is even lower than MLB/ILB. Larsen went right around where he should have. Again, to understand the demand characteristic (i.e., supply&demand) at this position, it’s good to look at where other, comparable talents are drafted. Consider the fact that Beckwith and Ellerbe went undrafted despite being projected as high as early picks by amateur draftniks. We’ve come to put a little too much faith in the draft pontifications of amateurs regarding draft position.
"spontaneous method of irrational knowledge based on the critical and systematic objectivity of the associations and interpretations of delirious phenomena." - Dalí
by Colinski on Oct 1, 2009 4:00 PM MDT reply actions 1 recs
Good points, Colinski, as always
The draft is interesting. Each year, you read about how this player or that player will be top 10, top 20. Each year, preference tends to be given to a few QBs, a lot of LOTs (some of whom will be moved to RT), a bunch of D linemen and a few ‘skill players’, RB and WR. LBs aren’t as big a draw. Would I turn down Brandon Spikes this coming year? No – I like having skilled players for depth. Davis and Haggan won’t last forever.
However – it’s interesting to note that we are surprisingly set at most of these positions. I don’t see any sign that Orton is looked on as a ‘transition’ guy – I think that he plays the way Josh likes the position played and could be very good for years. I like our D line – you can always get better, but these guys are not slouches. I’d look for another big receiver, in the second round, perhaps. It’s early, and anything still goes. I have to say, after this year, I tend to be very comfortable looking at how Xanders/McDaniels will run the draft. They’ve earned that trust. It is again, like Xmas. You may get a lot of presents that you weren’t expecting, but some will become your favorites.
Hillis/Moreno in '09
by Emmett Smith on Oct 1, 2009 4:43 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
attitudes -- again
Opinions about MLB were formed before we switched to the 3-4, and many of us were still not sure how complete the scheme change would be until well into the preseason, so some confusion was understandable.
People resist changing their minds on issues in general, and, in this case, there was justification since we weren’t sure what our defense would look like. I’m not trying to posture here, since I, too, drafted Maualuga in one of my mocks, but I do subscribe to a “reevaluate, reevaluate, reevaluate” motto. I took some time for me to change my mind, along with considerable re-thinking, but my emphasis changed as the draft neared.
OLB is very different situation than ILB, and I knew this. OLB is a high impact position since it’s the rush position in the 3-4, so the Ayers’ pick made much greater sense than a Maualuga pick. And this is in no way a knock on Rey, he’s just wasn’t playing a position of need.
A little too much of our thinking was a reflection of the past, rather than looking to our future, which is what the coaching staff did, because they had a much better understanding of what we’d need. There was also too little updating of our needs to reflect FA acquisitions. For instance, we needed Safeties (and got them) but few draft picks could be expected to play major roles immediately. I make this point repeatedly but it’s obvious that most people are projecting picks as immediate help, and this is not how you prepare a pick to assume a starting role. Many people still don’t ‘get’ multi-year planning.
Our draft board is wide open for next year. We can operate on a BPA philosophy with very little concern for so-called ‘needs.’ It’s strange to be saying that, but every area that was previously considered a need — say DL — has been addressed so there isn’t a single area that needs particular attention.
Positions such as WR and DL are well-stocked in 2010, so there’s no need to single out a position. We can sit back and let the draft come to us. It’s a strange turnabout from our emphasis in last year’s draft, where we looked desperate for help. Who thought we’d be talking about the #1 defense at this point?
"spontaneous method of irrational knowledge based on the critical and systematic objectivity of the associations and interpretations of delirious phenomena." - Dalí
by Colinski on Oct 1, 2009 5:51 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes, good points again
It’s strange to be saying that, but every area that was previously considered a need — say DL — has been addressed so there isn’t a single area that needs particular attention.
Isn’t that grand? Seriously – who would have imagined, in February, being able to say this today. I’m absolutely in awe of this – what an incredible performance. Granted, I’ve been a supporter of his decisions since the beginning, but it wasn’t blind loyalty. I’ve watche what he’s doing from a business perspective, from his design of the coaching staff (Which I loved), to his FAs and his draft strategy. During training camp, I thought that we’d be this good, but that it would take longer. It’s been a remarkable example of how to do the job.
What is equally interesting is to look at the job done by Eric Mangini. This isn’t to single him out, so much as I can’t help but notice that his defense is similar, his offense has certain similarities, but his team building was completely different and the outcome a diametric opposite. You have to be able to look at WHY McD was able to do this, It’s a fascinating story.
Hillis/Moreno in '09
by Emmett Smith on Oct 1, 2009 6:33 PM MDT up reply actions 1 recs
Why he was able to do it
is the big question alright. What is surprising is that he fixed all the obvious deficits before the draft. We thought it would take longer because even with good coaches there’s some guesswork. We expect the superiority of the process to assert itself over time, so that when the good and bad luck evens out what’s left is a preponderance of sound moves resulting, in only a few years, in an elite franchise. But a few months?! That whirlwind of activity was the mark of a man who knew exactly what he was doing. He knew who he wanted and why he wanted them and got them. The stunning rapidity with which he created the kind of team he envisioned and the pinpoint accuracy of his moves makes it obvious Bowlen hit one out of the park when he hired McDaniels. His decisiveness in dismissing Shanahan, in contrast to more needy teams whose owners weren’t so quick off the mark, meant he had first choice of the available talent, and he made the most of it. The dizzying rate of change in the months that followed left many Bronco fans disoriented, scared, and even disillusioned, but look where we are now.
"Surprised to see you, Captain, though pleased." — from Star Trek episode Space Seed.
by spock on Oct 2, 2009 7:53 AM MDT up reply actions 1 recs
Spock good comment
I will be one to admit when I was wrong. I thought Spagnuolo (sp) would have been a better choice but I know see that we got the cream of the crop.
Love it when I’m wrong (sometimes)
by papasteven on Oct 2, 2009 8:30 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Spags was my first choice, too
but I was convinced early on that Bowlen had made the right choice, even in the face of the Cutler madness. The pattern of dismissals and free agent acquisitions really blew me away.
"Surprised to see you, Captain, though pleased." — from Star Trek episode Space Seed.
by spock on Oct 2, 2009 9:45 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
I believe this is why Bowlen hired him
That whirlwind of activity was the mark of a man who knew exactly what he was doing. He knew who he wanted and why he wanted them and got them.
I imagine the interview with Bowlen very much involved McD detailing out his very thorough vision of the team that could be, a much more concise and focused vision than perhaps the other candidates could offer. And thus Bowlen had found his new coach. Perhaps Bowlen, McDaniels, the other coaches McDaniels brought in, and the players are the only ones who aren’t surprised by the swift evolution of the team. But they are perhaps the only ones. I have been optimistic from the start, but am still mystified of the change that has happened in only a few months!
We truly have a gem in McDaniels, and I’m anxious every week to see the progression!
"Take what you can. Give nothing back!"
by Colorado_Kitten on Oct 2, 2009 9:16 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Very true
Bowlen was clearly blown away. McDaniels must have presented him with an exceptionally clear and detailed (and plausible!) action plan to have had the impact he clearly had. McDaniels has been learning how to be a head football coach for most of his life. He knew what he would do if given the opportunity. We’re damned lucky to have him. I can’t help wondering if Bowlen acted so suddenly and decisively in jettisoning Shanahan because he had an gut feeling that NOW was the best time to make a change.
"Surprised to see you, Captain, though pleased." — from Star Trek episode Space Seed.
by spock on Oct 2, 2009 9:52 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Joe Ellis interview
Ellis says just that.
http://www.fm1043thefan.com/channels/audioOnDemand/Story.aspx?ID=1122225
McDaniels talked for approximately an hour about the defense, initially, and then moved to the kicking game (as I recall). He only moved to the offense once he had spoken at length about the other aspects of the team — surprisingly. His comments were highly specific and absent of platitudes. His specificity and obvious forethought were extremely impressive.
His discussion of coaches was also impressive, partly because his suggestions for staff were based on his observations of their work — not because they were friends.
Obviously, McDaniels has been preparing the head coaching position and had been keeping files on all the areas that he would need to make decisions on once he assumed the position. I recall that he received two offers to interview for the HC position in 2008 but declined because he wanted to wait for the right situation. According to what I’ve heard, his highly detailed answers in the interviews for the Broncos HC position are the result of having considered all these areas in advance, as part of his planning for the time when he interviewed (as he knew he would).
As you say, spock, and quite correctly, McDaniels knew he would become a head coach, and he has been preparing for that eventuality. And it was more than just a belief, since the overtures that New England was receiving about him in 2008 made his rise to the HC position merely a question of when. Much like Kubiak, who received offers for years before accepting, McDaniels knew the time had come but wanted a little more time to prepare himself, in addition to waiting for the right offer.
"spontaneous method of irrational knowledge based on the critical and systematic objectivity of the associations and interpretations of delirious phenomena." - Dalí
by Colinski on Oct 2, 2009 10:30 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm glad he felt the Broncos were the right situation
and thanks for the link. That was a very informative interview. What sticks in my mind is Ellis insisting that, despite all the hours he talked, and all the questions he asked (in the follow-up interview, apparently), McDaniels was very concise and didn’t talk just to be talking. Guess he just had a lot to say. (The Broncos players have since discovered how detail-oriented he is.)
"Surprised to see you, Captain, though pleased." — from Star Trek episode Space Seed.
by spock on Oct 2, 2009 8:16 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Next years draft
There are several players whos contracts come up this year. If it ends up being an uncapped year Denver could sign them all but I think this would be unwise because it could cause future problems when the league is capped again. So I see next years draft as replacing 1, or 2 of those and then the later rounds will be to train future players. By the way I like how McD got Lekevin Smith and Hochstein for a 5th. Brilliant!
"Sanity is the realization that everyone is insane to some degree." Me
by 3nS on Oct 2, 2009 9:40 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wonderful again, Broncobear
As impossible as it seems, your depth of research is actually over-matched by your insight, clarity, and organization of the presentation. If a posting can be judged by a combination of the information it presents (primary), and the information and insights that it stimulates in the comments (secondary), then this one is (again) top shelf…. and rec’d.
Thanks BB, and thanks Guru and Gang for MHR.
by idahobronc on Oct 1, 2009 4:22 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
Finally finished
Wasn’t able to read it in one sitting because fo errands, so I have to say Broncobear that that was some piece of writing. Since I live in SD I don’t get articles in the paper about the Broncos unless they are playing the Chargers.
Other that McDaniels, Nolan, and Nunnely, I never really knew what teams our coaches came from until your post and a reference John made on his show. Very intersting to see what has happened to the teams they came from. It is only three games in, however it is very interesting though. They have done very well in helping our players play in the right spots and it shows A LOT about McDaniels since he is the one who brought them in.
2009 NBA Champions L.A Lakers
2009 NBA Finals MVP Kobe Bryant
by weazel on Oct 1, 2009 4:44 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
One more thing
Forgot to add at the end of the first paragraph that it felt like I was reading something from a newspaper. It was very well written and it is good to read your posts. Thanks.
2009 NBA Champions L.A Lakers
2009 NBA Finals MVP Kobe Bryant
by weazel on Oct 1, 2009 4:47 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thanks, weazel
it felt like I was reading something from a newspaper.
Yeah, go ahead, curse me…lol. Thanks for the compliment, my friend. I hope that I was a little more in-depth than your usual NP article, though. I know – this week was sort of Encyclopedia Beartanica. A lot came up = I just make notes and keep records. When a few things converge, I tend to set them out. It’s been one of the most interesting seasons that I’ve ever been around, I have to say.
Hillis/Moreno in '09
by Emmett Smith on Oct 1, 2009 4:59 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Better than the newspaper....you know that.
It just felt like it because it just flowed so well. Can’t wait to read the next one.
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by weazel on Oct 1, 2009 5:05 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Outstanding bear! Highly rec'd.
The only issue I could possibly disagree with is the thought that our running game has come of age. It improves each week but I think there is at least one more layer to go. I have seen parts of our former One Cut Zone Block scheme but not all. In training camp we watched the “dancing bears” wall off a lane which Hillis cut behind that was a thing of beauty. Thank you for the informative and entertaining post.
It all starts in the trenches - HT 11/11/08
Leave the hateful vitriol to the uninformed - HT 3/16/09
by firstfan on Oct 1, 2009 7:36 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
Okay sit back
and breath. That was a longwinded article. You must be out of breath. I was out of breath just reading it. Saying “wow” just doesn’t quite cut it. It was too good for “wow”. It was totaly awesome and once again prove why I come to MHR for my Broncos fix. I’m not much of a fisherman so I can’t send you any salmon but might try to get you some trout.
I am extremely grateful for you taking the time to put this together. It was fantastic reading and like most here will have to come back to reread it so I can digest it better.
Highly rec’d of course Mister Bear. again thank you.
by papasteven on Oct 1, 2009 9:16 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
Thanks, papa
Much appreciated – I’m glad that folks liked it. Nice to hear.
Hillis/Moreno in '09
by Emmett Smith on Oct 1, 2009 9:18 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
Whew!
I had to digest this in two sittings. My little dog had to be walked. What happened to “say what you have to say and quit?” Lol. There were some very nice things conveyed. Thanks.
"You give 100 percent in the first half of the game, and if that isn't enough, in the second half you give what's left." – Yogi Berra
"We don't stop playing because we grow old; We grow old because we stop playing." -- George Bernard Shaw
Breaking jaws or the NFL in Oakland who cares? Fall on your pirate’s sword - Ponderosa
by KaptainKirk on Oct 1, 2009 10:37 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
great article
i have never posted to a blog ever before but mhr is something i couldnt leave a lone now I’m a bronco fan living in kansas city and I’’m loving every minute of it you should see even kc fans are afraid to talk bad about the broncos its ridiculous, the only rant i have is that lest we forget broncos left 3 points on the field in the bengals game and if the would have kept playing aggressive d as opposed to going to the prevent on the bengals final drive the score would have been 9 to 0 broncos didnt win the game on a fluke they dominated the entire game defensively and orton and company were just getting thier feet wet. With Dallas coming off a short week with a few key injuries and playing in Denver, I really think that the NFL world is going to be in complete shock with the out come of this game, go D
by broncostilldeath on Oct 2, 2009 12:35 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs

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