Be Wary of the "Let Down" Bronco Fans
Beware Denver Broncos fans. Beware.
Beware the dreaded "let down" game. I have been watching football games for a really long time, indeed most of us have, and our next game has all of the markings of a "let down" for the Denver Broncos.
Believe me when I say that the San Diego Chargers are not the better football team, but it is hard for any team to come off of such an emotional high and focus enough to be prepared the following week, especially against a division opponent in their own backyard. Next week, we will find out the true skill of Josh McDaniels and Mike Nolan. We will find out if they are truly human or if they continue to be inhuman in their perfection.
Our saving grace is that we will face a Charger team that is easily rattled. The crux is, the team has faced harsh words from their GM that could either rally or destroy this team. Unfortunately, they have had two full weeks to prepare and to stew. Which only adds to my belief that this game could very well be a "letdown" game.
The homer in me believes McDaniels is impervious to the "letdown" and the Broncos will assert to the League that they own the AFC West and are a force that will be reckoned with in January. If I am wrong, then McDaniels is human and the Broncos are still a force to be reckoned with - with some doubt whether or not that will be the case in January.
The remind everyone how big this next game is, if the Broncos win they will go into their Bye week 6-0, leaving the Chargers 2-3 and plenty of questions. A loss however, would put the Chargers within striking distance at 3-2 and if they win while we are on our Bye they will end up one game back and in contention. Now is the time to bury the Chargers, or the Broncos will regret it.
This is not your 2008 Broncos and its time for the players to erase all doubt. Make this "letdown" game into a "statement" game.
Am I wary of next weeks game? Yes. Do I think we will lose? Absolutely not.
Broncos 23, Chargers 20.
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A team has leaders like Brian Dawkins and Champ bailey, you’re pretty much guaranteed not to have a let down. Dawkins will have them fired up for this game, and McD will have them prepared.
"Pleased? We are excited about the proposition of going forward from where we are right now. Pleased? I don't know if you want to say pleased. You may want to hang your hat on pleased. I don't want to hang my hat on nothing right now."
-Brian Dawkins, on the play of the defense
Once he gets his hands on you, there's not much you're going to do. Then you can't outrun him, you can't run around him, you can't really run him over -- so you've just got to deal with it."
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by milehighnation on Oct 12, 2009 4:03 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
Exactly,
let down implies a lack of preparation or a failure on multiple levels. I don’t see that happening with this team. They may lose, but it will at the very least be close.
That rug really tied the room together...
by Streams Of Whiskey on Oct 12, 2009 10:03 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
not this year
mcdaniels will keep em in line :)
by march20 on Oct 12, 2009 4:03 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
I don't see that happening to us
We will beat the Chargers, with their weak D, bad Rushing game and horrible coaching. Those are all strengths for us. They can’t beat us with just their passing game.
"Really, I'm a high-motor guy. Tough, hard-nosed, a hard runner, can make you miss at times. And just competitive. I love to play the game and I bring that energy to my team. So, we'll see how that goes." - Knowshon Moreno
Knowshon Moreno=ROY
by stedtfeld on Oct 12, 2009 4:11 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
I say no
Let’s have our “let down” games happen against a team that out-coaches us, not against a team that is inferior in virtually every category.
John Clayton is the head Dean at Fail University (known as F.U. in short)
by Joe Medina on Oct 12, 2009 4:12 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
Josh McDaniels...
Only has to remind them of what happened last year in San Diego. That should get their attention and get them to focus. This team truly seems to take things one step at a time and not get too far ahead of itself. I’m sure 52-21 has their attention.
San Diego does scare me because they have a potent passing attack. As much as I hate saying this. Phillip Rivers has become a top 5 quarterback.
But certainly their defense is ripe for the taking. This year they haven’t been able to pressure anyone and their corners has been exposed. Against Pittsburgh without J. Williams their run defense was bad too. Interesting how everyone thought they had elite corners with Cromartie and Jammer, but the truth is those corners benefited from an awesome pass rush that is no longer there.
by RockyMountainThunder on Oct 12, 2009 4:12 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
Also they might still
have a letdown game and still win due to superior talent and coaching.
by RockyMountainThunder on Oct 12, 2009 4:14 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
The last 08 Game film
should be seen a dozen times by all the new Broncos. Then post all the predictions of an SD superbowl run. This is a PRIDE thing – no let down!
by Flunkie on Oct 12, 2009 5:44 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'll agree with you on Phyllis,
but I would say the same and more for Tom Brady.
I voted for a letdown, just because the Chargers have always scared me. Division game, against a team coming off a bye, without Buckhalter, in the Q… Seriously, I’m worried.
And I both am and have been the biggest orange/blue guy you’ll see. I’m just queasy.
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by Sharpe as a Tack on Oct 12, 2009 8:49 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's
The last few years talking.
by BroncoFanInLakewood on Oct 12, 2009 11:53 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
A little statistical info on teams coming off the bye...
Pat Kirwan was saying on SIrius that more teams have LOST coming off the bye than have won in the last few seasons. The PERCEIVED value of being fresh is a little bit of a misnomer.
A team coming off the bye is the basis for nothing really.
Those that cant coach, compete!
Failing to plan is planning to fail.
All I want is 53 Rod Smiths. Is that asking too much????
"Peyton Hillis didn’t rip the sleeves off his jersey, they flew off out of fear."
Calijoefornia.
by boydy2669 on Oct 13, 2009 5:21 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Like the Falcons and Cardinals? :)
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by Tim Lynch on Oct 13, 2009 7:22 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Zappa, does not mean they all lose...
But more lose than win. Even if it is 50/50, it still would not mean that you have an advantage over those with out the bye.
Those that cant coach, compete!
Failing to plan is planning to fail.
All I want is 53 Rod Smiths. Is that asking too much????
"Peyton Hillis didn’t rip the sleeves off his jersey, they flew off out of fear."
Calijoefornia.
by boydy2669 on Oct 13, 2009 8:05 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Teams off a bye...
….were 19-13 in 2008.
IT is, and it's impossible for IT not to be.
Parmenides (5th Century B. C. Greek)
by bradley on Oct 14, 2009 10:44 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
You stole my thunder Zappa
I was crafting a similar post, I too am wary of the let down game, I could see the Chargers building a quick lead and forcing Denver into a track meet, which I doubt we would be able to handle at this stage. It will be interesting to see how they handle the emotion of the past two weeks.
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by Broncoman on Oct 12, 2009 4:13 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
Great minds think alike. ;-)
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by Tim Lynch on Oct 12, 2009 4:14 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
can't run in a track meet?
Does 35-47 mean anything to you. Against the patriots no less. My friend your just beggining to see what this offense is capable of. Major weapons at ALL skill positions and the best offensive line in football. A lot of talk about our defense and rightfully so but your about to witness this offense take off.
by johnnyurrotten on Oct 13, 2009 1:49 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't see the Nolan-Dawkins-Bailey-Doom defense
letting this turn into a track meet.
From looking at SD games on NFL Rewind, I’m seeing a SD O-line that is having trouble with run blocking, which turns SD into a one-dimensional team. That would totally open up the pass rush for Doom & company.
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by BShrout on Oct 14, 2009 9:12 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
agree
SD is 32 in rushing offense. 2 in passing. 1 dimentional like you said. ain’t gonna work against Denver
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by 3nS on Oct 14, 2009 9:24 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think what a lot of fans are not seeing is that the Chargers are streaky. We see their suspect defense and inconsistent offense and automatically chalk it up for a Denver W. The reality is, this is going to be a tough divisional football game that could go either way and the Bronco players and coaches had better be ready for a hungry Charger team. That’s just how I see it.
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by Tim Lynch on Oct 12, 2009 4:21 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
its not going to be an easy game
and if we lose, i don’t think it’ll be a letdown game. neither does vegas, who have the chargers as 3.5 favorites.
by march20 on Oct 12, 2009 4:24 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
The Broncos aren't favored?
5-0 vs 2-2? I understand its a divisional away game but wow.
by Dwhite on Oct 13, 2009 5:49 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
We are the worst 5-0 team
haven’t you heard. 2-2, 3-2, 2-3, teams are beter than us because we haven’t played anybody. They still don’t respect us. We were supposed to be horrible and they still haven’t come to believe in us.
by papasteven on Oct 13, 2009 7:25 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Home Teams
Home teams always get a 3 point advantage to start with. Most of our games have been close scores. I am not surprised by the line.
by Endzone on Oct 13, 2009 11:16 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
No letdowns
If for nothing else, I don’t believe there will be a letdown because this is the only hurdle between us and a division crown at this point.
Brad James
by the Bradfather on Oct 12, 2009 4:22 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
Zap - I'm not so sure that we won't lose a few games...
But if and when we do, I do not believe it will be because of the dreaded “Let Down” that you speak of…Coach will have the guys prepared, and our Team leaders will keep all the heads straight…That said, sometimes the execution is a little off, or a bad call here or there, an untimely penalty against us instead of in our favor, you just never know how the ball is going to bounce…
But I totally believe that McD will have them ready to play, with all the needed information and tools to get the job done…And the Chargers will not be near as ready for us as we will be for them…Any let down will have to wait for at least another week…
by BroncoSense72 on Oct 12, 2009 4:27 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
The "let down" I am speaking of is a loss after a very intense, emotion, and long game the week before..
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by Tim Lynch on Oct 12, 2009 4:35 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
I understand what you mean though and I agree...
This next game is just one our past teams would have lost…I am just anxious to see how well McD prepares the team during what I see as a “letdown” week. I still have us winning. ;-)
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by Tim Lynch on Oct 12, 2009 4:46 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
We have not won decisively except in Oakland.
I am not repeating the MSM mantra that we are lucky; our team has stayed in the game and has given itself the opportunities to win, and it has taken advantage of those opportunities. However, If Stokes doesn’t come down with that miracle deflection, we are 0-1. If Romo looks to the OTHER side on one of 2 final plays, we are likely 2-2. We played Cleveland too close for comfort for the calibur team they are shaping up to be. We played hard againsts the Pats, but made mistakes that can be taken advantage of.
SD has a knack against the old Broncos of taking advantage of mistakes. They have more time, and McD seems to be getting comfortable with winning, what with the “Victory Monday” bonus for the players, and this talk about having an extra day to prep for SD. Coach, they have had an extra WEEK to prepare for us. And we are playing in Qualcom.
I’m cautiously optimistic, but nervous. Nevertheless, I voted NO. I have growing faith in the prep of McD and the leadership of KO and BDawk. I want Rivers to be INT’d and sacked so many times his head spins. I want to return the favor of the stomping we received last year. I loathe the chargers with a “disgust that amounts to absolute detestation.” Kill them, McD. Kill, embalm, bury, and burn them. And then forget about them…. until they come to Denver. I am not satisfied trading games with san diego. I want blood for both games. Unfortunately, so do they. And Denver is no longer under the radar. To anyone.
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by HarvJNep2n on Oct 12, 2009 9:43 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
No....
I can appreciate your point of view, because I too have watched the Broncos. And football….for years. But one look at this team…..and we see a group of guys who play complimentary football on and off the field.
And yes Complimentary football extends off the field. This team is only going to be beaten by a better team. I’m aware that there are those out there. But We will not beat ourselves while Josh McD is in charge. Not this year anyway. I don’t see this start as a continuing trend, but I think HCMcD has brought Winning back to the Denver Broncos for a long time.
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by DenBronx on Oct 12, 2009 4:45 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
NO way. Not in their house and for darn sure not in our house
I don’t see this team falling apart. I can see the buy-in on the faces of this team. We may lose vs San Diego, but it will be only if we are out-played by them. We aren’t going to shoot ourselves in the foot COUGH COUGH JAY CUTLER COUGH or fall apart COUGH COUGH LAST YEAR’S DEFENSE.
"Precipitation, which side are you on?
Are you on the rise? Are you falling down?
Let me know, Come on let's go, yeah
Got some if you need it!" -EV
by sadaraine on Oct 12, 2009 4:59 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
It's a Monday Night football game on national TV
I think that I’m pretty comfortable in saying that the won’t let down for this — McD will remind them of the last time the teams met in SD and they’ll be ravening.
Hillis/Moreno in '09
by Emmett Smith on Oct 12, 2009 5:00 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
No Let Down
Just put the tape on of last years melt down in SD. If that doesn’t fire you up then you might need CPR. They will be fine. Go Broncos!!!!
by NoCALbronco on Oct 12, 2009 5:00 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
When In The Course Of Human Events, It Becomes Necessary........
……That human sufferings are addressed and prepared for. That is the Credo of the Broncos this year. What I have long addressed as the primary problem for the Broncos is a loss of identity and that is no longer an issue thanks to McD and Nolen and the entire coaching staff. They refuse to let the players have a “let down”. Having a Monday game gives the players an extra day to get it right. Even though many of the players on the roster weren’t with the team last season for the “embarassment”. It will be in their minds and McD will not allow it to happen. What I would still like to see from the Broncos is the Killer Instinct. Beat a team really badly. Get them down and make it worse with every passing minute of a game. When that happens, the Broncos will have a truely great team.
by ArtfulDodger on Oct 12, 2009 5:05 PM MDT reply actions 2 recs
I've said it before...
1 Extra day for McDaniels is equal to one extra week for Norv Turner.
The Chargers are one Norv Turner away from a playoff appearance.
by BroncoFanInLakewood on Oct 12, 2009 11:56 PM MDT up reply actions 1 recs
I think no let down
The next week is a bye. I think the coaches will get them to focus one more week. Then they can have a let down on the Bye week.
... if you have a belief, you will tend to find things that support it. But if you have a prejudice, you’ll move heaven and earth to maintain it. BroncoBear
by 3nS on Oct 12, 2009 5:32 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
Nope. No let down...
I think you’re going to see something like the Dallas game, except we’ll score about 14-17 more points. My prediction: 10-27
by BFF46350 on Oct 12, 2009 5:33 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
agree
i see this as a very dallas like game, better team, better coached, but like dallas, sd has a few x-factors that could make the game close.
still waiting for the offense to start the game as well as they finish it. maybe this is the week?
i think denver wins 27-13.
"I just looked across the huddle to see the guys in the huddle with me: great offensive line, great talent at wide receiver, great tight ends, great running backs. If we execute and play the way that we should, it should be tough to stop us."
-K.O.
by denver_diaspora on Oct 14, 2009 9:44 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
yea im with bronco bear
on this big a stage no way. the chargers arent a cake walk either or a friendly foe… this is a hated divisional rival on monday night.
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by BDAWKisaBRONC on Oct 12, 2009 5:48 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
Zappa and Broncoman - totally wrong
Sorry guys but knowledgeable football people know that the ‘letdown’ or ‘trap’ game comes when a team is to play a lesser opponent, not the DIVISION RIVAL.
Coach McDaniels will have the players ready. This is one aspect of the game that he is excellent at. Another poster mentioned Dawkins and Davis as veteran leaders that will be focused. I must throw in Vonnie Holliday and Ron Fields also.
On a side note: How is Lamont Jordan still on the roster?
by DLMyers on Oct 12, 2009 5:50 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
we'll see...how close do you think it will be?
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by Tim Lynch on Oct 12, 2009 10:32 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
How many times are you guys going to ask about Lamont?
He is still on the team because he is a damn solid back-up running back veteran that doesn’t fumble, can catch out of the backfield, and can pass-block all day long.
Oh hold on….maybe you are one of those guys that would rather have Allen friggin Aldrige on the team. I get it now…. :|
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Are you on the rise? Are you falling down?
Let me know, Come on let's go, yeah
Got some if you need it!" -EV
by sadaraine on Oct 13, 2009 12:38 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
lamont is still on the roster
for the same reason orton is the qb, phonz was worth the draft position, and knowshon was our first pick.
they know what they are doing. 5-0?
"I just looked across the huddle to see the guys in the huddle with me: great offensive line, great talent at wide receiver, great tight ends, great running backs. If we execute and play the way that we should, it should be tough to stop us."
-K.O.
by denver_diaspora on Oct 14, 2009 9:47 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hey Zappa
I think it’s very smart to mention this as a potential “letdown” game. This happens a lot in sports, and specifically, to past Bronco teams. In fact, the very fact that I feel like we are going to pound the hell out of them makes me think in the back of my mind…if I feel this way…on no.
You are right in asserting that this will give us a good indication as to have different the 2009 Broncos are vs. previous teams. I think previous Bronco teams would get blown out in a game like this, but I simply can’t feel this way now with this defense.
Overall, nice post for keeping the Kool-Aid diluted just a tad, so I should at least rec you! And your right, the Chargers are super streaking. Who else plays both the Raiders and the Ravens so closely?
Smokey, my friend, you are entering a world of pain.
by TJ Johnson on Oct 12, 2009 5:54 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
Our D is great, but any D can be out schemed...Chargers have the talent to get lucky against us....
we;ll see. I expect it to be close.
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by Tim Lynch on Oct 12, 2009 10:34 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Chargers offense
is 32nd in rushing. It will be hard to outscheme this D if they can’t run.
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by 3nS on Oct 13, 2009 10:57 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
I am not a big believe in past outcomes being indicators of future outcomes. Especially on Monday Night Football....
I just refuse to look at stats and numbers…this game is going to be a battle from start to finish.
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by Tim Lynch on Oct 13, 2009 3:08 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
i agree-
it is easy to run down a list of stats and make one epic failure of a prediction of how well a team can play. only need to go as far as jamie dukes gutter mouth to see that.
i do think this is denver’s game to lose, but i get the wariness.
"I just looked across the huddle to see the guys in the huddle with me: great offensive line, great talent at wide receiver, great tight ends, great running backs. If we execute and play the way that we should, it should be tough to stop us."
-K.O.
by denver_diaspora on Oct 14, 2009 9:49 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
the chargers are pathetic
broncos 31
chargers 10
by lolcopter on Oct 12, 2009 6:34 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
You beat me to it Zappa...
I started a post saying about the same thing—I’m glad I didn’t get too far.
When I did the rather ridiculous, “La La Land’s Forecast for 2009,” I had San Diego as our first loss.. My description of the game went as follows:
Mon. Oct. 19 at San Diego……L….
phyllis crushes us. We are ashamed. The ghost-monkey that was on Shanny’s back is seen perched on Josh’s shoulder. Horvil Tiki is pissed, blames an albino crab, and writes a very funny article.
.
Back to being serious, however, I couldn’t agree more. The struggles San Diego’s had (as they continue to get ‘Norved’) make them look vulnerable. It would be easy to think that after New England, San Diego will be easier. It would be easy for players to go in a little lax.
I hope I’m wrong—taking out San Diego now is a very good idea. I now, after the last two games, think I am wrong. One of the attributes of the original ‘Orange Crush’ was the way they stepped up to whatever had to be done. Nolan’s brought a lot of Joe Collier to this defense—great ajustments for the second half, and a never say ’can’t’ attitude.
One problem I have is if we beat San Diego—I’ll have to figure out how we’ll lose three games this year.
I’ve grown fond of 13-3……..
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by Mike Clark on Oct 12, 2009 7:04 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
We'll lose to New England.
Oh, wait….. :::GIDDY::::
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by HarvJNep2n on Oct 12, 2009 9:45 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
13-3 in Broncos history = No Super Bowl appearance
I’d much rather go 14-2. :) Or even 12-4. ;)
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by Tim Lynch on Oct 12, 2009 10:36 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
But they didn't win thier first five games to get to 13-3.
Every time we’ve gone 5-0 to start a year we have appeared in the Super Bowl. I’m not sayin’, I’m just sayin’.
by BroncoFanInLakewood on Oct 13, 2009 12:00 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Actually....6-0 is the magic number....
Our Super Bowl teams didn’t go 5-1 to get to the Super Bowl…they went 6-0 first.
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by Tim Lynch on Oct 13, 2009 7:23 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
I wondered about this yesterday...
I posted a comment somewhere that this has all the makings of a classic letdown game. I still believe that. SD after a bye week, season on the line, being called out by their GM. And us coming off an emotional high, getting tons of press. It is worrying. Like you said we’ll see if McD and Nolan and Dawkins and Orton can motivate these guys to keep it up.
I’ll probably catch some flack for this next point but I just thought about it. I mean, if we are going to lose a game (and we will at some point) this game wouldn’t be the worst game to do so. I want us to win and I’ll be pissed if we lose but it wouldn’t be the worst thing if we lost this game as opposed to another. I say this because we have a bye week following the SD game and if your going to lose, why not make it right before you have 2 weeks to work on things. We lose this game and the media will forget about us by the time we play again and we can come out and continue this ride. So I’m hoping we win but let’s not go too crazy if we don’t (unless we get blown out)
by T.Dot_Bronco on Oct 12, 2009 7:15 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
I agree completely with your first paragraph, but
I couldn’t disagree with you more on your second point. Losing a divisional game to your only divisional rival that will challenge you for the division is about the worst possible game to lose during the regular season. I could see the reason behind that statement if we were up against the faders or chefs, but not the dolts!
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by Tim Lynch on Oct 12, 2009 10:38 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed as well
While being 5-1 isn’t so bad, that loss would be to San Diego. And I think that’s how you get this team really jacked up for the game: how often do you have a chance to effectively put a nail in the coffin of your only division rival in week six?
While it does smack of a let-down (I had the same concerns), this Denver team is different than those of the past few years. This team makes adjustments, doesn’t give up, and can go for the jugular when the opportunity is there.
And as for all the positive press: if this team wants to be at the top, they need to play when they’re not the underdog and disrespected. I think they’ll do just fine.
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by Disco_Stu on Oct 13, 2009 9:12 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
I cant see it happening...
McDaniels and the team know they can essentially put the division away with a win on Monday night. It would equate to a 4 game lead basically for us.
Our guys are not going to sleep on this one!
SD will be hungry though…but so will we. Just another statement game!
Those that cant coach, compete!
Failing to plan is planning to fail.
All I want is 53 Rod Smiths. Is that asking too much????
"Peyton Hillis didn’t rip the sleeves off his jersey, they flew off out of fear."
Calijoefornia.
by boydy2669 on Oct 12, 2009 7:53 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
gotta believe
Jedi is gonna find the weak spots
Jedi is gonna think up totally awesome stuff to do to them in the first half
Jedi is gonna go to Plan B in the second half
Dawkins is gonna be totally ready to impose His will on the chargers
Dawkins is gonna make sure the D is ready…and beat’em up if they dont take it serious in practice
Dawkins is gonna make the Chargers pay for last year…and he wasnt even there
Orton is gonna learn everything Jedi wants to do
Orton is gonna be totally calm and brave and stuff
Orton is gonna hop on the luck bus when it comes around
Some fans are gonna squirm and wiggle all week
Some fans are gonna be totally negative in the hard parts of the game
Some fans are still not gonna trust and believe when the guys cash in
MHR...and proud of it!
by MHRsGirl on Oct 12, 2009 9:21 PM MDT up reply actions 8 recs
poetic
in a 20th century kind of way.
-Harvey J. Neptune
"Practice doesn't make perfect. PERFECT practice makes perfect." - Vince Lombardi
by HarvJNep2n on Oct 12, 2009 9:49 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
omg...but my feet arent very long
MHR...and proud of it!
by MHRsGirl on Oct 13, 2009 7:50 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
noice!
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by broncosmontana on Oct 12, 2009 11:25 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thank you
bq.Dawkins is gonna make the Chargers pay for last year…and he wasnt even there
He does have that thing going, doesn’t he? That kind of “if it’s gonna be a fight, we want this guy on our side” thing.
Dawk has had his hands on a dozen balls this year: Monday he hauls one in. Monday he has every SD receiver scared to keep their eye on the ball by halftime.
Monday Orton convinces us once and for all that grooming a QB is not the only way to mold a champion. Sometimes he just has to take it for himself.
Take it. Give nothing back.
"Aggression, discipline, accountability, effort" Brian Dawkins 9/29/2009
"Life is a daring adventure or nothing." Helen Keller
"He will always be a slave who does not know how to live upon a little" Horace
by PositivIntegral on Oct 13, 2009 1:38 AM MDT up reply actions 1 recs
Nice Girl....
And another thing…McD HATES the Chargers as much as we do…lots of history with the Patriots. This game means a lot to him!
Those that cant coach, compete!
Failing to plan is planning to fail.
All I want is 53 Rod Smiths. Is that asking too much????
"Peyton Hillis didn’t rip the sleeves off his jersey, they flew off out of fear."
Calijoefornia.
by boydy2669 on Oct 13, 2009 5:26 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
I totally see what you are saying Zappa
however I don’t think McDaniels will let that happen. If the first 5 games aren’t evidence enough, it is that McDaniels, Nolan, and the rest of the coaches will always have this team ready to play. I know we are going to lose sometime during the season, just hope it isn’t Monday. While the win over NE Sunday was a huge win, this Charger game is the biggest hurdle of the season.
Charger defense isn’t that good, however their offense can put up the numbers. We have never been able to get some pressure on Rivers over the last 3 seasons, so that is what I want to change. Also, we need to watch Sproles like a hawk because he is a game changer for sure.
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by weazel on Oct 12, 2009 8:34 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
The one thing I like is that Vegas has the Chargers at 3.5 favored
The home team gets 3 pts, so they are still favored .5. A 2-2 team favored over a 5-0 team? Disrespect right there…!!!
Anyone else notice how much smaller that margin of Vegas disrespect gets each and every week? lol We win this week and the “disrespect” disappears for good.
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by Tim Lynch on Oct 12, 2009 10:40 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Vegas is just trying to recoup money they lost on the first 5 games...duh...lol
by bfree2bronc on Oct 13, 2009 1:39 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
The spread was 3 points for NE
Vegas made bank on both fans that week.
by RaRaDonk89 on Oct 14, 2009 10:38 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
I love it ....I've now personally taken the British Bookies (who get their lines from Vegas) to the cleaners for 4 weeks in a row.
So long may they keep underestimating the Broncos!
That spread is just silly.
by British Bronco on Oct 13, 2009 10:32 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
cha ching
Vegas basis their lines on what they think the public is gonna bet. As long as the public stays stupid were gonna continue to see these spreads and we’ll continue to make money British Bronco. Broncos +3 1/2 against the chargers, money in the bank.
by johnnyurrotten on Oct 13, 2009 8:51 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
No More Blowouts
With these coaches,with these players,I feel confident we will be in the game until the final whistle blows.I think they’ll give it everything they got just like we,the fans, do when we’re watching them and believing that we’ll pull it out until the clock stops.I think they should have had assistant coaches on the 50 year team also and Joe Collier should have been the Defensive Coordinater and Gary Kubiak the Offensive Coordinater and I’m not sure about special teams.Who do you think?
by Broncolorado on Oct 12, 2009 8:41 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
To the contrary
I believe this game will be the Broncos’ offensive breakout.
Broncos 31, Chargers 17
BILLY THOMPSON GOT SHAFTED!!
by AZDynamics on Oct 12, 2009 9:13 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
I like the way you think.
I’m drinking the KoolAid you are serving.
-Harvey J. Neptune
"Practice doesn't make perfect. PERFECT practice makes perfect." - Vince Lombardi
by HarvJNep2n on Oct 12, 2009 9:50 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
With the way Orton played now that the glove came off
and Marshall back in the offense week in and week out, it is only a matter of time. I will be nervous all week like normal. I REALLY hope you are spot on with that score.
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by weazel on Oct 12, 2009 11:07 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
TOTALLY WORONG SCORE...
No way do the Chargers score 17 on us! HAHAHA…
Those that cant coach, compete!
Failing to plan is planning to fail.
All I want is 53 Rod Smiths. Is that asking too much????
"Peyton Hillis didn’t rip the sleeves off his jersey, they flew off out of fear."
Calijoefornia.
by boydy2669 on Oct 13, 2009 5:28 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'll second that sentiment
In previous weeks, I would have said that was a stretch and been guarded about being overconfident. Now? In God and Josh McD I trust! : )
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by broncosmontana on Oct 12, 2009 11:28 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
I understand what your'e saying but...
this isn’t the Broncos of the last three years. They prepare better. They adjust better. If they were going to have a ‘let down’ game, why didn’t they have it against the Pats? The Cowboys game was an emotional win wasn’t it? McDaniels IMHO believes they can play better and will prepare them as well as they were(if not better) than when they played the Patriots. IMO I think some of us still think this team will act like the 2008 version, I know I’ve had doubts creep in. I just don’t think that shoe is going to drop, not yet.
Go Broncos!!
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by sbsbroncofan on Oct 12, 2009 9:18 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
The best proof against them having a letdown...
is found in the post-game interviews. Both McD and Orton, and a few other players I don’t remember, said repeatedly that this next game is the biggest yet. Partially because of the “the next game is always the most important” cliche, but also because they understand how important division games are, especially against the division rival. Its possible we may have a letdown, and its possible we may lose, but if I was a betting man, I would bet against it. This team is too focused right now to let that happen.
by ZTC_87 on Oct 12, 2009 10:51 PM MDT reply actions 1 recs
Remember...........Hello
Remember when the Pats beat the crap out of SD in the playoffs a few years ago….Who was apart of that….McD…….he knows how to beat these guys!!!!!
by m and m connection on Oct 12, 2009 11:19 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
I know P. Rivers can put a lot of points up, really fast.
The best way to remedy that? Take it nice and slow on offense. Run it to the first down, get down. Repeat.
Keep burning the clock. If you can limit their possessions to 4 or 5 in the whole game, while scoring on each of your 4 or 5 drives, then you just took the SD Dolts and made them look like fools in their own house. Besides, they don’t have an O line that’s worth a bag of firewood, so if you create a consistent 4 or 5 man pass rush on Rivers, he’s going to make mistakes. Rivers in the second half runs a pretty efficient hurry up offense. They can score quickly. However, I wouldn’t base that on the one game where they actually had to do it—against Pittsburgh. Pitt’s defense been falling asleep in the 4th quarter all year long.
Also, one word of notice, put someone on the LoS to block short screen passes. They will kill us with Darren Sproles on the receiving end. He’s a glass jaw, but it doesn’t matter when he can make you miss as much as he does.
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by Joe Medina on Oct 13, 2009 12:04 AM MDT reply actions 0 recs
Also, I know Jammer is considered one of the best corners in the game
but Marshall had something different to say about that last year. Does anyone else remember 18 catches? I sure do.
John Clayton is the head Dean at Fail University (known as F.U. in short)
by Joe Medina on Oct 13, 2009 12:05 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Marshall also made Cromartie look foolish with some penalties to boot.
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by weazel on Oct 13, 2009 12:25 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Food for thought.
You watched the game we did, right? Do you think it was coincidental that Tom Brady was off in the second half? No it wasn’t, he knew the pressure was coming and he knew his time would be shortened with the coverage the Broncos DB’s were putting on his receivers. He knew it was just a matter of time, since he lost his RT Wight (Sp?) and Dumervil was on his way. Things like that are not coincidental, it’s called a very fine defense that playplans each team to their weaknesses and adjusts when the time warrants it.
Kyle has shown improvement every week with his check downs if you notticed and his receivers are running better routes to get open and catch the ball. That’s what it is all about, not making mistakes and leaving points on the field. We out played NE in second half after shooting ourselves in the foot in the first. They didn’t get down, they stayed focused. Man I don’t know what this team will do if they jump out with a 17 point lead.
Oh, and btw, I have been watching football before you were even born. That doesn’t make me any more knowledgable than you, but I have seen things with this team that can’t be explained with the naked eye. There is something very special happening in Denver and it is for a very special reason. We may lose Monday to the dolts…OK as long as they play hard and never give up. You can see why Dre Bly was shipped out of Denver now? Huh? Because he isn’t smart, he’s a smart ass, that’s all. McDaniels will have players that are smart, tough and versitle.
by bfree2bronc on Oct 13, 2009 1:01 AM MDT reply actions 0 recs
A simple motivation
All McDaniels has to do is put up our divisional record: 1-0. That’s it. That’s how far this team is towards winning the division and going to the playoffs. That’s all that counts.
Show that to the team and I think you’ll have them focused for the week.
by Linmoo on Oct 13, 2009 1:20 AM MDT reply actions 0 recs
great insight on the situation
we are really vulnerable to a letdown. The opposite side is that SD is vulnerable to a choke….the pressure is high on them. Everyone, even players, are saying this is a MUST WIN. When its acknowledged like that and you have two weeks to prepare, it would seem the better off you will be; however, if the coaching can’t properly prepare and the chemistry on the team is bad, then the more time, the more the pressure grows. We’ll see how they come out early.
I expect SD to have a meltdown on their sideline as the poor coaching and preparation come out in emotional tirades….it may not come until after the loss though. With Rivers, anything is possible though……it will be great theater.
by BideshiBronco on Oct 13, 2009 2:31 AM MDT reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, it'll be a letdown.
But not for the Broncos.
I see McD preaching discipline this whole week. He understands that all of the players know the stakes, and the prior history between these teams. That will be motivation enough. What he will be beating into their heads is discipline. Play YOUR game, dictate and let them react, and DO YOUR JOB.
On a head-to-head position basis, the only real advantage that I see for the chargers is Rivers over Orton. But Rivers will be seeing an entirely different secondary than last year, and an entirely different pressure package. His favorite toy is Jackson, and I see Jackson getting the Randy Moss treatment. If Rivers has to play the short game, I see him getting impatient, and that means mistakes. The better part of River’s cred has been gained at the expense of the Broncos. I see that ended spectacularly in this game, and I see the decline continuing at the game in Denver.
I’ll go out on a limb here. If Denver TAKES this game from SD, I see the Broncos sweeping the division.
- Jason
Horton is WIN - HORVIL TIKI
by jubei on Oct 13, 2009 8:24 AM MDT reply actions 0 recs
Hey Jubs...check this article over at BFTB by their "Guru"....
Interesting article and take…..with Orton outperforming Rivers in MANY categories!
Here it is:
http://www.boltsfromtheblue.com/2009/10/13/1082877/kyle-orton-vs-philip-rivers
Those that cant coach, compete!
Failing to plan is planning to fail.
All I want is 53 Rod Smiths. Is that asking too much????
"Peyton Hillis didn’t rip the sleeves off his jersey, they flew off out of fear."
Calijoefornia.
by boydy2669 on Oct 13, 2009 8:50 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nice tip, boydy! Thanks!
Very interesting to see this coming from BFTB.
I guess my feeling is that Rivers is, in general, a better all-around QB right now (his deep ball is a thing of beauty, much as it pains me to say it). But Rivers is stuck on a team in decline, that is beat up and not remotely cohesive. And he’ll be seeing a Bronco defense that is the polar opposite of the defense he shredded in two games last year.
However, I should have qualified my original statement by saying that I see Orton continuing to improve along with the rest of the offense as the season goes on. Really, if McX, KO and the rest of the team keep progressing, I think KO will be the best QB in the division on the best team in the division very soon.
- Jason
Horton is WIN - HORVIL TIKI
by jubei on Oct 13, 2009 9:21 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's been debated more fully before, but a reminder...
Is the “best” quarterback the one with:
- the thickest leg muscles
- the longest in-air completion
- the fewest sacks
- the highest passer rating
etc etc etc
or is he the one that wins: full stop. KO is exactly what Denver needs. Phillis is a wing and a prayer, and looking lonelier all the time. This is the game he truly loses his head from frustration, calls out the head coach, pouts to the media, etc.
I guess what I mean is, Horton is WIN. He has nothing to apologize for.
"Aggression, discipline, accountability, effort" Brian Dawkins 9/29/2009
"Life is a daring adventure or nothing." Helen Keller
"He will always be a slave who does not know how to live upon a little" Horace
by PositivIntegral on Oct 13, 2009 9:52 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Great points, PI!
It’s hard to argue with the win-loss record, especially at home. Personally, I love that the team respects him. Winning obviously goes a long way toward that end, but he just seems like a guy that the troops would rally behind anyway. The best part is that he’s just getting started here. If we keep the key pieces in place, and McD and Xanders continue to get their guys, I think Kyle will be a top flight QB in the Brady mold very soon.
The man just keeps proving that he’s NOT just a stopgap.
- Jason
Horton is WIN - HORVIL TIKI
by jubei on Oct 13, 2009 10:55 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Question
When NE went 16-0 did they have a letdown game?
I ask that because I think it is more relevent than what previous Bronc teams have done.
... if you have a belief, you will tend to find things that support it. But if you have a prejudice, you’ll move heaven and earth to maintain it. BroncoBear
by 3nS on Oct 13, 2009 11:02 AM MDT reply actions 0 recs
Preparation
Although I agree that McD does an excellent job of scheming to the opposition, and I like the way he uses his weapons (except for the disappearance of Hillis), there has to be some explanation for the SLOW starts of this team. Before the NE game I was telling anybody who’d listen, “If we come out slow, like we’ve done this year, against the Pats they’ll put us in a position needing to come back from multiple TDs down. Our team isn’t built for that.” Although we DID get behind early and play another mediocre 1st quarter, we had heart and played gutsy enough to pull out the win – very proud of Orton.
Who do you blame for the slow starts?
by JohnElwayOverdrive on Oct 13, 2009 11:34 AM MDT reply actions 0 recs
New schemes
I think the players still don’t have the schemes down 100%. So it takes time to get comfortable with what they are doing in a particular game situations.
I also think they gameplan to wear the oposition down. So early going is as much about wearing down as it is scoring. That as well as adjustments leads to the advantages they have in the second half. IMO
... if you have a belief, you will tend to find things that support it. But if you have a prejudice, you’ll move heaven and earth to maintain it. BroncoBear
by 3nS on Oct 13, 2009 12:02 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
"Wary", to be cautious, prudent, careful.
I was wary, wary of the regime that seemed to lead us down that primrose lane only to be disappointed each and every time. Wary of the clowns who put us down and insulted us as being the lowiest team in the AFCW. Wary of the pundits slander and gile of beating their chest to the tune of disparaging words that they call professional journalism. Yes, I’ve wary. Now I’m weary, tired, exhausted and fed up with the lies that have been scribed upon this team, a team made up of washed up, step missing, mediocre players. A team who made no sense at all in getting rid of a “franchise” player because of their whims and not having to answer the experts (MSM) for it. Weary of people saying one thing and meaning another, just to be on someones bandwagon. I’m weary of folks who said this team will not win any more than 3 or 4 games and they have been made liars of themselves. Oh, they will say in one repect that this team is better off than they were, but let the Broncos lose 3 or 4 in a row and watch their lips more back to the direction they came from. Yes, I weary, wary and optimistic as well…13-3 Baby!!! Until we ain’t.
by bfree2bronc on Oct 13, 2009 12:19 PM MDT reply actions 2 recs
I think it's likely that we may see....
…a letdown in the 1st half, given that it’s the 1st Monday night game for this ‘new’ team, the Chargers will be fired up in the Q with what they see as the AFC West on the line, and given our pattern of slow starts this season. However, given the way this Broncos team has adjusted at the half and dominated teams in the 3rd & 4th Qtrs, I don’t see SD as having the kind of team character and certainly not the coaching ability (Norv is TERRIBLE) to out duel us in the end.
"A man can fail, but he is not a failure until he blames someone else." J. Paul Getty
by SteveAssassin on Oct 13, 2009 1:33 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
Anybody know if Ed Hochuli is running this game?
That’s the only way I see us not winning — Ed trying to make up for his blown call last year. LOL (just kidding Ed).
Seriously, like a lot of responses here:
I believe McD and his leaders (Nolan, McCoy, BDawk, Orton, Bailey) will all be stressing that the only important game is the next game.
I believe that McD will have this team prepared.
I believe that the players will be committed to doing their jobs.
I believe that the players will not overlook any opponent this year.
I believe that this team believes it will have to fight for every win.
I believe that this team believes that if they fight for the entire 60 minutes that they can win any game.
Put simply:
I believe in this team.
"The best defense is a good offense. Or is it the other way around." Wolverine
Pray for the best, prepare for the worst, and know you will come down somewhere between the two.
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by BShrout on Oct 14, 2009 9:19 AM MDT reply actions 0 recs
Nice sermon!
you gonna give that on Sunday?
... if you have a belief, you will tend to find things that support it. But if you have a prejudice, you’ll move heaven and earth to maintain it. BroncoBear
by 3nS on Oct 14, 2009 9:26 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
LOL
it’s tempting.
It’s also an inherent tendency (I’ve done church work before, and am a teacher now), it’s hard to not to go off like that on occasion. :D
"The best defense is a good offense. Or is it the other way around." Wolverine
Pray for the best, prepare for the worst, and know you will come down somewhere between the two.
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