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Sadaraine's Thoughts - Being in the Game

 

Here's just my running observations of the game.  If you have't noticed yet, I'll be doing this every week after our games to wrap up my thoughts on our team and give some insight to some of the things I catch when I watch the game.  I hope you cats enjoy this type of stuff, as I enjoy putting it down for us to discuss.

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What I like about this year's Broncos:

Here's what I LOVE about this team.  We are in the game.  I don't care what happens to us going forward even if we do play a rotten game and get blown out.  Every week, I KNOW that we CAN win.  Last year I never felt secure in what the team was doing because our defense looked so bad and when things got bad it ended up making our offense look bad too.  Last year you spot the Patriots 10 points in the first quarter and I already am ready to throw in the towel as I wait for Cutler to push too hard and throw a pick.

I still felt pressured yesterday because I KNEW we couldn't let NE get too far ahead of us.  But it seems like every game we come out sloppy and our team starts "seeing" the game better as the day goes on.  Then the defense starts taking things away from the opposing offense...then the offense starts finding yards here and there that work against the defenses being played against us.  It makes for a very fun game to watch.

By third quarter I knew we were competing for real with the Pats.  At that point on, I would have been okay with losing because I knew our team was leaving it all out on the field.  Even if NE goes on to score 3 TDs in the 4th, I would have been proud.  :)

 

Offense:

  • Let's start with a glaring weakness I'm seeing with this year's offense:  Short yardage.  I am VERY concerned about our lack of ability to pick up one yard here or there.  McDaniels needs to spend some time finding something that works (QB sneak anyone???  That is almost always good for a yard).  If this doesn't get fixed, we will lose a game because of it this year.
  • Brandon Marshall is just plain sick and wrong.  I can NEVER get enough of that guy making the CBs covering him look like 4-year-olds trying to get their candy back from a 16 year old bully.
  • Eddie Royal hasn't gone anywhere guys...I think he was just waiting for Orton to have more control over his passes to be able to get him involved more.
  • Eddie Royal is week in and week out getting taken to the cleaners by the refs.  I've seen at LEAST one pass interference / illegal contact on him each week so far and the refs are right there and not calling it.  It is getting old REALLY fast.
  • Opponents in the last half of our schedule had better start worrying about Moreno.  He's just getting better EVERY week.  This kid is going to break a long TD soon if we stay committed to the run.
  • I love me some Daniel Graham.  Clone this guy and give me two more for a 3 TE set and I will make a defense's head spin.  He blocks like a truck, has soft hands, runs good routes, and is too big for LBs / DBs to cover in the short game.  Love it.

Special Teams:

  • The Punt Return group needs to get their crap together.  They obviously FELL APART in the second half with the penalties for 1st downs and the defense BAILED them out twice against one of the best quarterbacks of this age.  This is unacceptable, dumb football.  You have to KNOW what the distance is and what a reasonable risk is.  Anyone else notice for the rest of the game they didn't really try to pressure the punter at all?  McDaniels is going to have plenty of rear-end to chew with this group and they deserve it.
  • Our kick-offs were pathetic yesterday.  NE's punter made us look like chumps...we have altitude, etc...those should be reaching the end-zone or out of the back EVERY time.  CMON Man!
  • Prater misses a 48 yard FG at home...I know it is a semi-tough kick, but it wasn't even close.  There was no gusting to excuse it this time...he just missed.
  • That being said, Mad props to Prater for kicking his first game-winning FG.  I told him (via my TV of course) that it was time to "DO YOUR JOB" right before he kicked.  Good start kid...keep it up.

Defense:

  • This is what I am talking about.  This defense is tough and smart.  They were superheroes in the second half shutting down the NE offense.  Great great asset to the team vs last year being a liability.
  • Pass rush, where art thou???  The thing that truly amazed me about our defense was the lack of pressure we were getting on Brady all day long.  He had time to bake a cake and put candles on it back there.  Good thing his arm was a little off today for at least a couple of those throws.
  • Other than two throws that we all saw would have been easy TDs, the D did a GREAT job forcing the NE passing game into short throws that were difficult to complete / make good yards on.
  • I was amazed that they didn't have Bailey shadow Moss.

After playing the Cowboys and the Patriots the last two weeks, I am PUMPED to see this team go play the Chargers in what is a "must-win" for THEM!  This season is far, far from over, but we are in a superb position to compete with the big dogs this year.

If learn to be on our "A" game off the bat in the 1st quarter instead of having to warm up every week teams are REALLY not going to want to be playing us because we absolutely will put people away with this type of ball-control offense / hard-hitting stingy defense.  (The flip side being that our slow starts are going to bite us in the rear if we can't figure out how to play better)

Let me close out my post with this VERY scary thought:

This team is nowhere near its potential

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You are correct.

This team is good. This team is great. But they are seemingly only using JUST ENOUGH to get by every week (no I don’t count cleveland or Jokeland). We are leaving points on the field, causing penalties at horrible times, and losing the ball to horrible fumbles. We are not connecting on the long ball like we COULD and SHOULD.

It is a humbling thought to think that a 6-0 team….is running at 50% capacity at best. MAYBE 60%. But we have a lot of growth, and if we fulfill that potential….no one can stop us.

"I have not failed. I've just found 10,000 ways that won't work."
- Thomas Alva Edison

"Success is not a place at which one arrives, but rather... the spirit with which one undertakes and continues the journey."
- Alex Noble

by DenBronx on Oct 12, 2009 4:51 PM MDT reply actions   1 recs

+1

It is starting to shape up, but those mistakes have to go

"Precipitation, which side are you on?
Are you on the rise? Are you falling down?
Let me know, Come on let's go, yeah
Got some if you need it!" -EV

by sadaraine on Oct 13, 2009 12:42 AM MDT up reply actions  

That is not a scary thought...that is a wonderful thought!

Scary for everyone else though. ;-) rec’d!

Verbose in style, dispersion of thought, procrastination in life.

by Tim Lynch on Oct 12, 2009 5:22 PM MDT reply actions  

Thanks brotha!

Heck yes…I bet San Diego were laughing on their bye week…until they watched the game. = )

"Precipitation, which side are you on?
Are you on the rise? Are you falling down?
Let me know, Come on let's go, yeah
Got some if you need it!" -EV

by sadaraine on Oct 13, 2009 12:43 AM MDT up reply actions  

Points

Before tonight’s game…

Denver’s defense is:

  • 6th in rushing yards/game
  • 5th in passing yards/game
  • 2nd in total yard/game
  • 1st in points/game

Denver’s offense is:

  • 5th in rushing yards/game
  • 15th in passing yards/game
  • 6th in total yards/game
  • 21st in points/game
    Echoing last year, yard production is outpacing point production. This may be a product of long fields (i.e. poor returns), but regardless, it will help considerably if we can improve our yards/point ratio.

by Leukadian on Oct 12, 2009 5:36 PM MDT reply actions  

Actually

I can’t remember what site its either cold hard football stats or football outsiders, but we are around 10 in the league in yards per point. How, I don’t even know.

"Pleased? We are excited about the proposition of going forward from where we are right now. Pleased? I don't know if you want to say pleased. You may want to hang your hat on pleased. I don't want to hang my hat on nothing right now."

-Brian Dawkins, on the play of the defense

Once he gets his hands on you, there's not much you're going to do. Then you can't outrun him, you can't run around him, you can't really run him over -- so you've just got to deal with it."

Elvis Dumerville, on Ryan Clady

by milehighnation on Oct 12, 2009 6:53 PM MDT up reply actions  

Yup

I think it is pretty interesting to have that trend after we were supposed to be focusing on it in the off-season, but I personally chalk it up to the team being totally new to the system. It really takes time for an offense to get in a rhythm together and truly get their timing down…look at how Marshall and Orton are starting to get on the same page for instance. The short yardage weakness has cost us some points for sure.

"Precipitation, which side are you on?
Are you on the rise? Are you falling down?
Let me know, Come on let's go, yeah
Got some if you need it!" -EV

by sadaraine on Oct 13, 2009 12:45 AM MDT up reply actions  

Thats good stuff !!

I was checking and we missed 3 fg’s and failed to convert in fg range 2 first downs .

Those 5 fg’s or 15 points would push us into the top 10 in scoring . Our time will come we are not that far off :) .

Whats even more amazing is that so far 4 teams are averaging 30 or more points per game . ……and we get to play two of them on the road.

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by Hoopforia on Oct 13, 2009 9:21 AM MDT up reply actions  

Short Yardage Game

In regards to our inability to pick up those short yardage first downs, we’re struggling with the interior of the O-Line. We’re getting no push forward and giving Moreno/Hillis/Jordan no chance to put their head down and lean forward. This is something we’ll need to address in the draft. Until then, QB Sneaks would work, but getting Hillis in there with some play action leak plays would be great.

by 8r0nc8 on Oct 12, 2009 5:49 PM MDT reply actions  

Great insight

I’m going to be watching that more closely next week. Would you say it is more our Guards or our Guards and Center?

There have been several times that a play-action pass would have had a good chance for success in my opinion…

"Precipitation, which side are you on?
Are you on the rise? Are you falling down?
Let me know, Come on let's go, yeah
Got some if you need it!" -EV

by sadaraine on Oct 13, 2009 12:47 AM MDT up reply actions  

Guards

I think mainly it’s been on Hamilton’s side. However he and Wiegmann are both lighter linemen compared to Clady, Harris, and Kuper. It could be a size issue or it could just be the play calling is not to the best of our interior lines abilities. Maybe even a hard count or two from Orton would work. At least that would keep the D-Line off balance and give the interior line a chance to get a push.

Great thoughts by the way Sadaraine. Thank you for your insight.

by 8r0nc8 on Oct 13, 2009 1:48 PM MDT up reply actions  

You got it man

It is always good to see you guys diggin the posts we take the time to write up. Go Broncos!

"Precipitation, which side are you on?
Are you on the rise? Are you falling down?
Let me know, Come on let's go, yeah
Got some if you need it!" -EV

by sadaraine on Oct 13, 2009 10:07 AM MDT up reply actions  

Good points

I would take just a little exception to one however. I too thought that Brady had way too much time in the first half – in fact, I remember commenting to the friend I was with at the game that I was surprised that we weren’t getting more pressure on him. But I think that whatever adjustments were made at halftime resulted in just enough more pressure to take Brady out of his game a bit, particularly on third down.

It's "just" football

by Donkhead on Oct 13, 2009 10:26 AM MDT reply actions  

Thanks man

I do agree that they did better in the 2nd half, but it really seemed to me like we were playing with fire. In the end we won, but still…pressure yes…a little. Hits on QB…few if any other than the forced fumble.

"Precipitation, which side are you on?
Are you on the rise? Are you falling down?
Let me know, Come on let's go, yeah
Got some if you need it!" -EV

by sadaraine on Oct 13, 2009 10:39 AM MDT up reply actions  

Nice post...one point of argument

My only argument was about the offense. I thought we did get it going early in this game. We drove fairly well down the field on the first possession and it would have looked more acceptable had we got the field goal. Next possession was an early fumble (I think a few good plays before that), but then the offensive possession were pretty good for most of the game. It didn’t seem that we tried hard enough to get in field goal range after the Brady fumble though.

by NDbronco on Oct 13, 2009 2:37 PM MDT reply actions  

Eeehh...sure

That is definitely a different way of looking at things. I guess it is an overview from the season so far on my part…we haven’t gotten out to fast starts and it has been because of mistakes (missed FG, fumble, etc).

"Precipitation, which side are you on?
Are you on the rise? Are you falling down?
Let me know, Come on let's go, yeah
Got some if you need it!" -EV

by sadaraine on Oct 13, 2009 2:58 PM MDT up reply actions  

+1

I agree that the offense had it going early in the game. I feel the struggles are mainly with play calling more so than play execution. As others have pointed out, I’ve seen a couple times where we drive the field with passes and stall when we decide to run the ball all three downs. I’m not sure if we’re tipping defense when we run the ball or what, but we haven’t really had that great mix to begin games. We mixed it up damn well on the final drive in OT.

by 8r0nc8 on Oct 13, 2009 6:43 PM MDT up reply actions  

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