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Horse Tracks 10/15/09 - Buckhalter back at practice

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Apologies for the late Tracks, but the site was down for maintenance this morning. Have a great day, friends!

DPP - Orton emerges as Broncos' environmentally friendly, effective quarterback - Mike Klis

DB - Week 6 - Wed: McDaniels - Broncos TV

NFLN - Mile High feelin' - Video
Mike Martz gets credit for jumping on the bandwagon before his NFLTA colleagues.

NFL - Drive of the week - Video
Bucky Brooks and Derrin Horton examine the Broncos' 12-play, game-tying drive vs. the Patriots.

NFLN - WK 5 Playbook: Broncos analysis - Video
The Playbook crew dissects the Broncos' 20-17 OT win over the Patriots.

CBS - Veteran Dawkins giving unbeaten Broncos defensive boost - Clark Judge
"I am who I am, whatever guys want to label it," he said. "If I feel like saying something, I say something. My work ethic is what it is. I try to go out and bust my hump every time I take the football field, and that hasn't changed. I do what I can for my football team, and I say what I need to say, whether it's defense, offense or special teams. I don't step on anybody's toes, but I'm always there if they need me."

DPP - Krieger: Orton's next deal dilemma

NFP - Broncos' Marshall earning his future money - Matt Bowen

Star-divide

DPP - Bye week good for Chargers - Lindsay Jones

DPP - Briefs: San Diego's run game low on fuel - Jeff Legwold

DPP - Q&A: Broncos returning still needs work - Jeff Legwold

DPP - Numbers: Broncos lead rushing's century club

DB - Entering a Hostile Environment - Gray Caldwell

DB - Showing His Smarts - Chris Gentilviso
"Much of the motivation to put in that work has stemmed from McDaniels’ unwavering support. Orton said he’s never had a coach demonstrate such trust in his skills."

DB - Week 6 - Wed: Dawkins - Broncos TV
I could listen to this guy speak all day long.

DB - Week 6 - Wed: Orton - Broncos TV

DB - Week 6 - Wed: Marshall - Broncos TV

CSG - Broncos want to forget last trip to San Diego - Frank Schwab

CSG - Broncos RB Buckhalter returns to practice - Frank Schwab

CSG - Broncos would gain 3 1/2-games lead with win over San Diego - Frank SchwabCSG - Broncos notes: Dawkins not limited by age - Frank Schwab

DPP - Woody's Mailbag: What is Peyton's place?

AP - Kyle Orton's Career Taking Off In Denver - Arnie Stapleton

KDVR - Broncos vs. Chargers Preview: AFC West rivalry renewed - Chris Tanaka

AFC West News

NFP - Diner morning news: Time to trade Merriman? - Mike Lombardi

SDUT - Chargers release strong safety Hart - Kevin Acee

SDUT - LT, Rivers assert team's 'quiet confidence' - Kevin Acee

KCS - Hali a player opponents notice - Kent Babb

KCS - Chiefs notebook: Albert’s playing status uncertain - Adam Teicher

SFC - Raiders are among all-time worst offenses - David White

SFG - Raiders Silver and Black Blog : What's the score? - David White

OT - School of hard knocks - Steve Corkran

NFL News

NFL - Controversial Limbaugh dropped from group bidding for Rams

NFL - No trade in sight: Demoted Browns QB Quinn acclimates to new role

NFL - Louisville sets sights on Gruden for possible opening

NFL - Steelers welcome back Polamalu, but injured Smith 'irreplaceable'

NFL - Titans' Kearse doesn't stay around after being deactivated vs. Colts

NFL - Vinatieri out 4 to 8 weeks after knee surgery; Colts sign K Stover

NFL - Pats' early struggles beg the question: What's wrong with Brady?

NFL Opinion

NYT - In N.F.L., Parity Is Taking a Turn for the Worse - Greg Bishop

SI - Jim Zorn, Dick Jauron's job status affect players in locker room - Ross Tucker

Y! - Hard to ignore history and fully trust Bengals - Charles Robinson
"One league executive with negotiating experience said that if Orton maintains his current pace, the framework for his contract will likely begin in the neighborhood of the six-year, $60 million deal signed by the Kansas City ChiefsMatt Cassel last offseason."

SN - Firing NFL coaches in midseason rarely works - Albert Breer

SI - Bill Parcells has influenced many coaches in NFL, college - Dave Hyde

SI - Brady Quinn for Vince Young? NFL trades that would make sense - John P. Lopez

FOX - Deadline trades remain a rarity in NFL - Alex Marvez

PFW - Ten most intriguing players of Week Six - Pat Fitzmaurice
5. Brandon Marshall

ESPN - Expect NFL trade deadline to pass quietly - John Clayton

NFP - Wednesday whys: Big trades coming at deadline? - Andrew Brandt

NFP - Tavern talk: Fixing Brady’s problems - Mike Lombardi

NFP - Objectivity and NFL Network - Robert Boland

ESPN - Mike Sando's MVP Watch
"Orton makes his MVP Watch debut -- at the expense of Tom Brady, no less -- because we're far enough into the season for results to matter more than reputations. "

PFW - Walker trade built foundation for Cowboys' success - Mike Wilkening

NYT - N.F.L. Win Probabilities for Week 6 - Brian Burke

SN - Week 6 picks: Eli will feel at home in New Orleans - Vinnie Iyer

FOX - Week 6 Cheat Sheet: NFL picks and predictions - Peter Schrager
"Is there any room left on this bandwagon? Oh, there isn't? Fair enough. Well, I'm taking them anyway."

SI - New Orleans Saints, New York Giants lead NFL Power Rankings - Don Banks

NFP - Senior position rankings - Wes Bunting

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Thanks NYC

great job as always

live and die blue and orange

by jerry251 on Oct 15, 2009 6:51 AM MDT reply actions   0 recs

Thanks Nyc

Character may be manifested in the great moments but it is made in the small ones -- Philip Brooks

by KaptainKirk on Oct 15, 2009 7:25 AM MDT reply actions   0 recs

Thanks NYC,

Quote of the day from Orton

“I love Colorado, I love the Broncos,” he said. “This organization has treated me extremely well ever since I’ve been here. I would certainly love to finish out my career here. It would be great.”

Denver rookie head coach Josh McDaniels doesn't have a grasp on how to build a team." - John Clayton, April 23rd, 2009

by diviesti on Oct 15, 2009 7:39 AM MDT reply actions   0 recs

If he continues to play this well

Yes, oh yes it would.

Don't argue with fools. It's how they reproduce.

by TheMastermind on Oct 15, 2009 8:05 AM MDT via mobile up reply actions   0 recs

Sounds like a home town discount. We’ll need that since I doubt Marshall or Elvis will be as generous.

by McGeorge on Oct 15, 2009 9:05 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

His quotes along these lines

reminds me of a foster child who is thankful to be hugged and tucked into bed at night because he never got that kind of affection at his first home. Kinda sad, but I’m glad he’s in a good, healthy environment now. Welcome home, Kyle.

"Take what you can. Give nothing back!"

by Colorado_Kitten on Oct 15, 2009 9:56 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Buckhalter

I guess we won’t know until later but if he is well ewnough to go Monday…give us back that one two punch against SD’s average D…

Yeah. Oh yeah.

Don't argue with fools. It's how they reproduce.

by TheMastermind on Oct 15, 2009 8:04 AM MDT via mobile reply actions   0 recs

If he is...

we will definitely be ramming it down their throats all game. :-)

"Take what you can. Give nothing back!"

by Colorado_Kitten on Oct 15, 2009 9:58 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Thanks NYC...awesome as always!

Those that cant coach, compete!
Failing to plan is planning to fail.
All I want is 53 Rod Smiths. Is that asking too much????
"Peyton Hillis didn’t rip the sleeves off his jersey, they flew off out of fear."
Calijoefornia.

by boydy2669 on Oct 15, 2009 8:16 AM MDT reply actions   0 recs

The reason we are winning

http://blog.denverbroncos.com/denverbroncos/showing-his-smarts/ pics at bottom of page shows Coach McDaniels going one on one against Eddie Royal – fantastic shot and goes a long way in explaining the completely new attitude in Denver

by Flunkie on Oct 15, 2009 9:13 AM MDT reply actions   0 recs

holy crap Woody

you find a new way to infuriate me each time I read you:

What’s going on with Alfonso Smith? I’ve watched every game and have noticed Jack Williams is playing as the nickel corner on most of the snaps. For a guy who we traded our 2010 first round pick for it seems he’d be on the field more.

— Steve, Atlanta, Ga.

Steve: Alfonso hasn’t been a factor so far. He has a handful of tackles; a couple of passes defended, and has been a complete bust as a punt return man (I think four returns for nine yards). I genuinely believe he and Robert Ayers, despite what some people shout, just haven’t advanced as quickly as the Broncos would like, and I’ve been told that by someone on the inside. It doesn’t mean either is a bust, but just that they probably won’t contribute that much until later this season, if at all. It’s too early to dismiss them, but not too early to say they won’t be on the all-rookie team.

Alfonso, not a factor? First of all, it’s Alphonso, so maybe you are right: this guy named Alfonso hasn’t done a lot for the team. Alphonso, however, had an excellent game against Cincinatti (4 tkl + 1 ast, 1 TFL, 1 PD). He didn’t play much against Cleveland because the absolute lack of passing game that Cleveland had kept us from using nickel much (Woodyard was the only nickel-sub with a defensive stat, 1 solo tackle), but Alphonso did assist a special teams tackle. Finally, in the Oakland game he sprained his ankle early in the game (I believe second play from scrimmage, but the video doesn’t show his injury) and couldn’t play. He was inactive due to the ankle against the Cowboys. Last week vs. the Patriots he was active, but I don’t think he was quite back to 100% yet…I think they wanted 4 CBs for depth vs. a very good receiving team, but didn’t want Smith playing all the nickel snaps. He was limited in practice all week and questionable on Friday. I guess we shall see this week whether he is fully healthy and whether he still is the nickelback. I believe he will be, Jack played well but I don’t think he wrenched the job from him.

It just infuriates me that Woody wouldn’t even mention that he was injured. Of course someone isn’t going to advance much through three injured games. And then the “inside source” to cite his opinion is classic.

by poorboywilly on Oct 15, 2009 11:02 AM MDT reply actions   0 recs

Ayers and Smith.

Smith was excellent in the Cincy game and was also strong in the Cleveland game. He missed the next two games with injuries and had a hard time last week with Welker (like most CBs). I think Smith is right where he needs to be as a high draft pick. He has impacted games with positive plays.

Ayers is another story. I’m not seeing as much from him. He has flashed a time or two, but when I focus on him, he has several plays were he is a nonfactor. I’m far from sold that OLB is where he is best suited to play in the NFL. He looks more like a classic 4-3 DE to me. He has not found his stride or niche with Denver.

by McGeorge on Oct 15, 2009 11:17 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

This is Encouraging

Now that Woody has declared that they won’t have an impact until late season, if at all, I fully expect both to have big games on Monday. Probably a pick 6 for Smith and a sack of Ayers.

When you can do the common things in life in a uncommon way, you will command the attention of the world.
- George Washington Carver

How do you keep the Broncos Humble?
"Just show them the film. Show them the film." - Josh McDaniels

by Kfustud on Oct 15, 2009 11:22 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

STATs

http://www.denverbroncos.com/resources/custom/PDF/Stats/2009/gamebygame_wk6.pdf

The Broncos’ site is the best place to find stats — it’s a PDF.

Some guidelines — make sure to account for how often a player is in action (Ayers sees much less action than Dumervil), as well as how they’re used. Also, take into account team success, since one player’s contribution may set up another player for success. Being the beneficiary of a bad defense (tackles correlate with bad defense) isn’t as impressive as setting up teammates in a good defense.

If you look at NFL.com’s defensive totals you’ll notice that good players on bad teams are overrepresented, so there’s mix of effects. Also, DLs don’t get many tackles so ‘apples and oranges’ comparisons with LBs aren’t meaningful. It’s best to get a baseline by comparing like-positioned players, which will give you an idea of what the elite players at that position can accomplish.

"spontaneous method of irrational knowledge based on the critical and systematic objectivity of the associations and interpretations of delirious phenomena." - Dalí

by Colinski on Oct 15, 2009 3:50 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Woody's clown show

Glad you posted this — because I was going to.

Every time I want to give Woody credit for dropping the clown shtick and demonstrating that there’s a real person underneath, he comes up with something like this.

I don’t know what to say.

Smith erased any doubts about himself early in the season, but he’s been injured and that makes it hard to demonstrate much of anything. He’s clearly not a bust (nor even a disappointment) on pass defense, besides being excellent at run support, and he’s shown ability in the return game, although he hasn’t had a lot of opportunities there. It’s hard not to dismiss Paige as completely and utterly clueless, but I can’t explain his cluelessness since he shows himself capable of much more.

Ayers has shown plenty lately, so Paige’s comments are almost as baffling here. He came in to the season with a disavantage because of his late signing but he’s been progressing nicely lately, and that progress has surpassed what is reasonable for this point — (and it’s also been noted by the coaches, as mentioned in a recent article).

I don’t usually ‘go negative,’ and I’ve outlined my reasons for that previously, but Paige is someone I can’t stand and never could. My Colorado roots go a long way back and I’ve watched him for decades, with various levels of revulsion. Yellow sports journalist such as Paige operate on an ethical principle of expedience, and the goal is to generate conflict whenever possible. Conflict sells.

Comments such as “I’ve been told that by someone on the inside” are devices used to establish credibility. The current coaching staff ISN’T offering up any tidbits to the media so it’s presumably a lie. If Paige wants to cite someone and the words to this effect then he can, but otherwise he’s using an ‘insider scam.’ Paige is capable of writing honest articles based on actual information (although that’s not as easy to come by with this coaching staff) but that requires work and having actual information in his possession. It’s far easier to allude to a problem he’s invented and milk the controversy that develops. And this is why I’ve always had a low, low opinion of him.

A final note — I’m not trying to indulge in hating Woody Paige here. My opinion has been developed over a long period of time and is carefully considered. Ignoring his behavior and rationalizing it as something else is no better than judging prematurely and harshly. Being fair in one’s opinions sometimes leads to a negative appraisal. Paige has had many, many opportunities to demonstrate his character and shown on a great many occasions what kind of person he is. The question is not whether I’m being judgmental but why he’s that way.

A final, final note — I was looking at the defensive tackle totals yesterday and I invite others to do so (on NFL.com). Do a comparison of how other rookies have done (in similar positions) and you’ll get a picture of Ayers and Smith are doing (also see pass breakups, etc.). There are two points; one, they’re doing well, and two, rookies don’t contribute much in their first season and shouldn’t be expected to. Paige is playing on our level of knowledge and beliefs concerning rookies (i.e., people tend to believe they do more). Also, look at how some of the other potential draft picks we debated taking are doing. It should go a long way towards alleviating any regrets people have that we didn’t draft some other prospects.

"spontaneous method of irrational knowledge based on the critical and systematic objectivity of the associations and interpretations of delirious phenomena." - Dalí

by Colinski on Oct 15, 2009 3:05 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

NYC – do you have the daily practice report link?

Much thanks

by McGeorge on Oct 15, 2009 11:18 AM MDT reply actions   0 recs

Which one do you mean? If it’s the one on DB.com, it’s the one titled “Showing His Smarts”

by Douglas A. Lee on Oct 15, 2009 11:37 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Sorry.

The injury reports – which guys practiced (limited, full, DNP).

by McGeorge on Oct 15, 2009 12:43 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Although that’s not my department, I believe there’s no report yet. Maybe for MNF games the first report doesn’t come until after Thursday’s practice? I don’t know how it works. Anyone?

http://www.nfl.com/injuries

by Douglas A. Lee on Oct 15, 2009 1:27 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

That link is money. thanks

by McGeorge on Oct 15, 2009 3:30 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

NP. Thanks for the reminder – I forgot to include that link since I was in such a rush after the late start…

by Douglas A. Lee on Oct 15, 2009 4:18 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

yeah

MNF games report on Thurs/Fri/Sat

by poorboywilly on Oct 15, 2009 4:29 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Mustard Uniforms

Not a big fan of them, but I must say that it is sure easy to pick out the Broncos players and watch the plays develop as I’m watching the replays this week – one redeeming quality at least.

by elimin8 on Oct 15, 2009 12:37 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

Thanks, NYC.

"I believed it, until it made sense. Then things changed."

by Tempestuous Binary on Oct 15, 2009 4:49 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

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