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Stretch of the Imagination

The "stretch."

When told that the Broncos still have something to prove, or that someone's opinion of them still hasn't come around, we are often pointed to the "stretch," a series of 7 out of 8 games on the Broncos' schedule that is treated as if it were some kind of absolute truth graven into stone.  7 out of 8 games against sturdy opponents, somehow each one stronger and more terrifying, more of a "real" test than the last.

And it isn't that Dallas, or Pittsburgh or Baltimore, San Diego, New England, and the Giants aren't going to be challenges, its that somehow, for every challenge that the Broncos rise to meet, the "real" test will still be a game away, a future point where dreams and facts will finally meet.

For the personalities that view the "stretch" this way, you will find that they spend most of their time ensorceled by their own imaginations, and in fact, it is important to understand that particular dynamic, because it contains the whole truth.  When a game is completed, it passes off the radar, as if it never happened, treated more like a figment of imagination, despite the fact that it happened, than prognostications of games still months away.  What "is" loses all significance for them once it passes from the realm of the as-yet-unknown, the nursery of their errors and last refuge of their whims, to the realm of existence, to facts and to the ultimate rebuttal of their unfounded desires.

And we find ourselves fascinated by the phenomenon, watching it unfold perennially, but dumbfounded anew each time it happens.  We struggle to understand, seeking cause and motive.  Is it the fault of fantasy football?  Do fans and analysts get so enmeshed in stats and individual accomplishments that they lose sight of what truly matters about football?  Have you ever hung a Christmas stocking on a chimney?  The bounty of the stocking does nothing to affect the the nature of the chimney, and at worst, the fire in the hearth is lowered or extinguished to accommodate it.  Both can and are enjoyed separately, for what they are, depending on the person.  Extinguishing the flame of knowledge and passion for the game in the name of Fantasy football is a symptom of the problem, not the cause.  Is it monetary gain?  Are the pundits and personalities moved so strongly by the desire to please an employer that they will say anything?  This is a common fallacy in every field, where money is blamed for declining standards.  But for every dollar that gets paid to a self-indulgent analyst, another dollar gets paid to an honest man for his hard work.  Money represents both because it is just a symbol, and can only be up to the standards of those who earn it.  Whatever a pundit chooses to say in the space allotted to him is on him, not on his employer, and not on the inanimate matter in his wallet.  That someone is paid for projecting their whims as being above the status of what is real speaks again to a symptom, not a cause.

Star-divide

Before getting too deeply into cause and motive, lets first look at the modern phenomenon of sports "coverage," a term used to lump both the journalists and analysts together.  If I had to point to one significant difference between the best sports journalism and the lowest forms of sports chatter, it would be in the ability of the writer or speaker to accurately describe something.  This includes describing the look, the feel, and perhaps most importantly the meaning of events.  Without exception these descriptions are at their best when they describe something that is or has already happened, not something that might be.  Unless the power of physical perception is leveled on reality, accuracy will be limited.

What we see nowadays, is that writers and analysts have turned their backs on understanding the game better, of growing in their ability to process what they are seeing or of developing relationships with players and coaches, or even of working on their craft to better be able to clarify what they are thinking, and instead have turned to judging people, events and actions "instinctively," i.e. not by what they are  but by how they make them feel.  Accurate descriptions of what happened are glossed over with emotional outbursts, and then buried beneath unending piles of prognostications and wild guesses about the future.  Sports networks consist of 6 hours of pregame coverage, talking about what hasn't happened, while postgame coverage is limited to an afterthought, barely an hour on most stations with the majority of that consisting of hoots and hollers dubbed over highlight packages.  It is an industry dominated by the whims of its personalities, where the pundits imagination is granted the status of fact, and where the whims are fulfilled by shifting focuses and cherry picked scenarios, stats and highlights that support pundits all knowing "visions."

And the rest of reality?

ESPN airs 24 hours a day in multiple languages and formats, across many geographical incarnations spanning several channels.  If you could spend all your time in this alternate universe they have created you will have found how consistently they can evade issues or concepts that don't feed into their conclusions.  Sometimes ideas will fall through the cracks, but in general they have taken the act of ignoring something and raised it to an artform.

Why would they do that?

The answer rests in the nature of our consciousness.

A human mind develops from a primarily perceptual method of functioning in our childhood to the conceptual method of functioning in adulthood.  This is aided by the hierarchical stacking of concepts in order to improve intellectual efficacy and by what could be called "cognitive experience" i.e. repeated handling of concepts and ideas that refines and clarifies their use.  But above all, the process is a volitional one.  It requires continuous effort and focus, personal responsibility for observing, judging and integrating the facts of reality.  To proceed from childhood cognitive functioning to adult functioning is not an automatic process.

For most of us, we work our way through this process with varying degrees of aptitude and success.  We are strongly influenced by those who mentor us through the process, and much of what we learn about it is at a subconscious or implicit level of understanding.  Some make the transition completely, some harbor some instances of perceptually bound thinking, and some fail to make the transition at all.  It is a cultural phenomenon too great to delve into here that has led to the modern (1950's to present) strangulation of this transition, that has stranded a great number of souls in a psycho-epistemologically arrested state, but suffice to say, the spectacle of a perceptually bound mentality, especially one that is inconsistently mixed with a more rational outlook, is not uncommon.

This type of mentality treats its emotions as irrefutable, irreducible and irresistible knowledge of facts, and they are almost completely at the mercy of them.  They are stuck in a universe where only the immediate feelings of the moment have meaning to them, and it is these feelings they project on the past and future, both of which function as little more than disposable canvases for the imaginative wanderings of a perceptually bound mentality.

And while the process of self-stultification is very interesting (and again, far too deep of a topic to expand upon here), it is sufficient to note that the process develops almost completely during the formative years of the mind, and results in a personality that prioritizes getting around reality, rather than dealing with it. Even in the simplest or insignificant endeavors (such as a sports analyst giving his reasons why a team will be a failure) this is a fatal mistake that pits the deceiver against reality. His imagination becomes his sole source of power in the fields of reality that he chooses to ignore, whether it is film analysis or player rankings, and his imagination is ruled by emotions he doesn't understand. The result is a deceptive, manipulative exertion in an attempt to gain control of something they have long since abandoned. Success in this endeavor consists of convincing others that his uncontrollable emotional appraisals are as real, and thus as valid, to them as they are to him. Success also brings terror, terror that the next person he meets will be someone who really knows. The terror comes from the fact that subconsciously the mind knows that it is still not equipped to deal with reality, and that no new knowledge has been discovered. Consciously this terror is tempered by the quest for superiority: Superiority in what? Anything. Nothing. They have no idea, but the personality that can't be wrong, the pundit who always has to have the last word, regardless of what that word is, this is the autopsy of their shattered consciousness. And the superiority is as much a mirage as the grand predictions and visions they rely on to gain it. It is a superiority that crumbles the first time it comes into contact with real knowledge, from someone who actually takes the effort to deal with reality.

What can be so startling about what these personalities posit, is how utterly unrelated to reality it can be. The statement "Did they even watch the game?" is as common as their vacuous statements. Their structures are like mists of vapor with the permanence of fog. If probed, their ideas yield with a breath. When reality is abandoned, their efforts to invalidate it for everyone else reduce them to preying on doubts and fears. The end result is a grand deception with a gambler's chance of getting pulled off, if somehow their imagination and reality coincide, even for a brief moment. And that it is these moments which somehow are real, while the moments of complete divergence from reality are ignored should come as no surprise. Self-esteem and self-confidence are critical to your survival, no matter what you intellectual capacity and development are. They are as likely to repaint the canvas of the past as they are to repaint the canvas of the future. Their entire outlook depends on it.

Throughout history, there have been archetypes of this outlook that have created immense tragedy. But the worlds of sports journalism, and of mass market sports coverage fall far short of that kind of historical significance. The incompetents that invade and populate these fields find a royal satisfaction in lording over the standard forum or message board, a reflection of their inner self, and a nest of safety where whim is treated like reality, which is all they ever desired. Success for them is a simple contentedness in the failure of others, and a eudomonic contemplation of the boards and forums they have spawned.

Their success will be their failure.

The influence they seek over others has driven away exactly what fuels their profession: the minds of their readers and viewers. And what they have gleefully spurned and dropped, MHR has rightfully picked up.

We have no fail-proof predictions that we must back up come hell or high water. But we do have an archive brimming with articles and data that will explain everything you need to know to understand and appreciate the pattern of success that the Broncos are enjoying right now. We haven't staked our self-esteem on some future "vision" of the team that proves our ability to do our jobs here. But we do have a large number of dedicated individuals who are willing to add their time to help everyone continue to grow and learn more about their experience as a fan of this game.

So while the imaginations of the pundits discussed here are stretched to their limits to contain the growing reality of the Broncos, as the superstructure of this team that we have all fallen head over heels for begins to poke holes in these personalities' insufficient and self-indulgent proclamations of the "truth" that they have attempted to drape over the Broncos to hide them from sight, the reality is, something mighty is coming together in the Rocky Mountains, something which blasts almost every "truth" of these wayward pundits to oblivion.

Let them worry about whether the Ravens are the real test, or how the Giants are a greater test, or whatever other security blanket they find necessary to make them feel better about what they have said and done. Our focus is on the test that really matters. The results that really say something about this team.

Our focus is on the eastern peaks, on a little blue star against a background of silver and white, a small, unwholesome looking stain developing on the horizon.

A storm approaches, and you can't go around it. You have to go through it. The schedule has made up its mind to do battle. So be it. The Broncos have erected a three game windbreak to take the edge off of the pressure, but it is nearly irrelevant, because this is a team that not only accepts this struggle, but wants it. They want to enter this abyss, to step into places that have all the hospitality of a gaping maw. They want the rewards that only a struggle with what is real can bring.

The human will is intoxicating.

Three tasks down, the Denver Broncos now face another, and as they move unhesitatingly from one to the next, resolute, they have taken up naturally the stride of a giant.

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Really well said

Styg, thank you.

What I’ve been concerned about is how the Broncos are in an unwinnable stretch, and I don’t mean literally unwinnable. But they are going to lose at least 2 games out of the next 5. I don’t want to see both fans and sports media pundits jump on them or think them failures if they do lose 2, or 3, or whatever. I’m pretty confident that they will meet my goal for them, which is STAY COMPETITIVE in every one of those “tough” games, with a chance to win. And hopefully literally win a few of them. I don’t want to see people say “See? I told you so” if they lose a few.

One game at a time.
One week at a time.
One quarter at a time.
Stay competitive.

This should be the mindset, and I’m pretty sure it is.

The commenter formerly known as "Dashiell".

by underdog on Oct 2, 2009 5:41 PM MDT reply actions  

Nobody is going to trust us even when we beat the Cowgirls 21-3

The media may start noticing how good we are when McD kicks Belichick’s ass.

"I always believe there's a reason why you go through everything." -John Elway

by LACK on Oct 2, 2009 5:51 PM MDT reply actions  

they notice it already...

nothing short of intellectual integrity will help them stop ignoring it, however.

The ones who have hope are already adjusting their outlooks and reassesing their assumptions. The hopeless ones are digging the trenches a little deeper this week…

Precision in thought, concision in style, decision in life.

by Jeremy Bolander on Oct 3, 2009 8:58 PM MDT up reply actions  

cool piece. very well written imo.

this is my favorite part:

The end result is a grand deception with a gambler’s chance of getting pulled off, if somehow their imagination and reality coincide, even for a brief moment. And that it is these moments which somehow are real, while the moments of complete divergence from reality are ignored should come as no surprise.

so true. if we don’t win this weekend it’s gonna be like a coming out party for all those talking heads. they’re gonna spew their crap along with their well thought out justifications that just make you want to reach through the tv and smack em.

by scotto291 on Oct 2, 2009 6:13 PM MDT reply actions  

Thanks scotto
….well thought out justifications…

yup. Justifications crafted from the clay of 20/20 hindsight.

Precision in thought, concision in style, decision in life.

by Jeremy Bolander on Oct 3, 2009 9:00 PM MDT up reply actions  

Thanks Styg.

I’ve spent time today puzzling over the disonance I feel between my reality and the reality of some others in the media. This helped.

I always enjoy your writing and would encourage you to continue to indulge your poet.

by NedBronco on Oct 2, 2009 6:26 PM MDT reply actions  

I'll indulge as long as people like you

are kind enough to stop by and join in the conversation. :)

Disonance could be the theme for this whole offseason. never have I needed to be so thorough in fact-cecking and research after reading teh articles ont eh Broncos out there… It truly feels like a parallel universe sometimes, and for the life of me, I can’t figure out where they stash all of it!! There sure isn’t enough room out on the field or int eh lockerroom for everything we’ve heard about!

Precision in thought, concision in style, decision in life.

by Jeremy Bolander on Oct 3, 2009 9:03 PM MDT up reply actions  

Absolute Power

Absolute Power (eg I am right even if I’m not) corrupts absolutely.

by Endzone on Oct 2, 2009 6:29 PM MDT reply actions   1 recs

Does that mean

I am corrupted because I say 13-3 Baby? :-)

"You give 100 percent in the first half of the game, and if that isn't enough, in the second half you give what's left." – Yogi Berra
"We don't stop playing because we grow old; We grow old because we stop playing." -- George Bernard Shaw
Breaking jaws or the NFL in Oakland who cares? Fall on your pirate’s sword - Ponderosa

by KaptainKirk on Oct 2, 2009 6:59 PM MDT up reply actions  

Wow...for a minute there I thought you were describing my own psychological problems....

Sure glad you weren’t! I, uh, would have been upset if you had made public my many…many mental instability issues. Thank you for not doing that by the way. ;-)

As always styg, you have left me wanting…(of more of your style of writing) lol

Verbose in style, dispersion of thought, procrastination in life.

by Tim Lynch on Oct 2, 2009 6:40 PM MDT reply actions  

We all struggle with some of these factors to some degree

the difference is that most people don’t like feeling bad about themselves, and aren’t willing to throw others under the bus to prop up their failing self-esteem. To the degree that we maintain that personal honesty and integrity, is the degree to which we put forth the effort to align ourselves with reality… and the longer someone indulges their personal evasions and deceptions, the farther from ever being ok they are going to get…

Precision in thought, concision in style, decision in life.

by Jeremy Bolander on Oct 3, 2009 9:07 PM MDT up reply actions  

WOW

Just Wow, styg.

"You give 100 percent in the first half of the game, and if that isn't enough, in the second half you give what's left." – Yogi Berra
"We don't stop playing because we grow old; We grow old because we stop playing." -- George Bernard Shaw
Breaking jaws or the NFL in Oakland who cares? Fall on your pirate’s sword - Ponderosa

by KaptainKirk on Oct 2, 2009 6:59 PM MDT reply actions  

thanks Kap'n!

Precision in thought, concision in style, decision in life.

by Jeremy Bolander on Oct 3, 2009 9:07 PM MDT up reply actions  

Tremendous stuff

I am sitting here, working on producing my little video package, and then I see this. Humbling indeed. :) Most emphatically rec’d

"I am not one of those who think that coming in second or third is winning." -- Robert F. Kennedy

by Ted Bartlett on Oct 2, 2009 7:20 PM MDT reply actions  

Keep on keeping on, Ted!

What you do is the real deal, and I have no higher compliment I can offer.

Precision in thought, concision in style, decision in life.

by Jeremy Bolander on Oct 3, 2009 9:08 PM MDT up reply actions  

Styg, thank you for studying philosophy. Your thought processes and writing style is appreciated. Rec'd

I agree, Larsen shouldn’t get any bigger. I am getting tired of his bone crushing hits knocking the pixels off my TV, once they fall to the floor they are very hard to find.

by Arctic Bronco on Oct 2, 2009 7:50 PM MDT reply actions  

Thank you Arctic

And believe me, it was my pleasure!

Precision in thought, concision in style, decision in life.

by Jeremy Bolander on Oct 3, 2009 9:08 PM MDT up reply actions  

Rec'd

if for no other reason than

ensorceled

by SlowWhiteGuy on Oct 2, 2009 8:04 PM MDT reply actions  

Seconded

I only had to look up four words from this article!

by unkown on Oct 2, 2009 10:22 PM MDT up reply actions  

two spellings

one with two ’L’s, one with just the one… I have zero clue which one is is used properly, but should note that all other tenses of the verb have two Ls….

Precision in thought, concision in style, decision in life.

by Jeremy Bolander on Oct 3, 2009 9:10 PM MDT up reply actions  

Alaskan Shakespeare.

I had to look up ensorceled. Excellent work my friend.

It all starts in the trenches - HT 11/11/08
Leave the hateful vitriol to the uninformed - HT 3/16/09

by firstfan on Oct 2, 2009 8:47 PM MDT reply actions  

Don't feel bad.

After some 19 years of schooling, and a major part of my life devoted to teaching others, I, uhm, well I had to look it up too.

: )

"Greater is an army of sheep led by a lion, than an army of lions led by a sheep" Defoe

by Steve Nichols on Oct 3, 2009 5:55 PM MDT up reply actions  

If Shakespeare were alaskan

I think he would have wrote something like the hockey intro for Juneau that Guru put up over at the new home of MHR Radio

Appreciate everything firstfan!

Precision in thought, concision in style, decision in life.

by Jeremy Bolander on Oct 3, 2009 9:13 PM MDT up reply actions  

wow, great stuff!

now I know why you said that you enjoy analyzing the emotional or mental part of the game the most……..thx!

The funny thing about “the stretch” is that if McD could have planned out this year’s schedule, I imagine he would have planned it exactly this way…..give three weeks for confidence building and jelling…..then, face some real opponents, come back from the bye and face some even tougher opponents.

Supporters of the team, while fearing the tough tests, should be excited about the effect playing tough teams will have on preparation for the playoffs. Mentally, it also helps McD keep his team focused on “proving” themselves. The MSM will continue to support his efforts to keep the Broncs humble……..it really could be a perfect storm for greatness…….except I am going to cringe at the start of every game and after every bad play…..it will be like watching my kids go out and interact with the world and other kids…..LOVE IT!

by BideshiBronco on Oct 2, 2009 9:41 PM MDT reply actions  

The funny thing about "the stretch" is that if McD could have planned out this year’s schedule, I imagine he would have planned it exactly this way

Exactly! And the point about the kids is noted. This team is special, and have earned everything we can give them as fans, so far.

Precision in thought, concision in style, decision in life.

by Jeremy Bolander on Oct 3, 2009 9:14 PM MDT up reply actions  

Their once was a man I'm told, that I have known for years,

I hear he is going away, for this I shed no
tears
for though I have known him well, he no longer resembles
me
I see him now, as he packs his bags of thoughts that use
to be
I bid farewell, my friend of self, the writer, in you and
me
I have begun a new found journey, Its real, atleast
to me
Imagination is the key, lets dream the dream weve
seen
13 – 3 baby, its a stretch, that has a Ring!

Great read Styg,
Go Broncos

Real Power, comes with the realization that One cannot change the Moment;
only ones perception of it: Atitude! JQM

by UB3 on Oct 2, 2009 10:49 PM MDT reply actions   3 recs

Waxing poetic

Nice UB!

"You give 100 percent in the first half of the game, and if that isn't enough, in the second half you give what's left." – Yogi Berra
"We don't stop playing because we grow old; We grow old because we stop playing." -- George Bernard Shaw
Breaking jaws or the NFL in Oakland who cares? Fall on your pirate’s sword - Ponderosa

by KaptainKirk on Oct 2, 2009 11:29 PM MDT up reply actions  

Thanx Kap

Real Power, comes with the realization that One cannot change the Moment;
only ones perception of it: Atitude! JQM

by UB3 on Oct 3, 2009 1:10 PM MDT up reply actions  

rec'd

nicely penned, UB3

"Take what you can. Give nothing back!"

by Colorado_Kitten on Oct 3, 2009 5:35 PM MDT up reply actions  

Very nice UB!

Precision in thought, concision in style, decision in life.

by Jeremy Bolander on Oct 3, 2009 9:15 PM MDT up reply actions  

Styg, some people say I'm a pretty good writer . . .

But here I would be at best just one of the guys, and your contributions comprise a case in point. It’s a shame all I can do is +1 you and rec you only once.

Keep the good stuff coming. :)

BILLY THOMPSON GOT SHAFTED!!

by AZDynamics on Oct 2, 2009 11:24 PM MDT reply actions  

One of the guys

Yes you are!

Cheers!

Precision in thought, concision in style, decision in life.

by Jeremy Bolander on Oct 3, 2009 9:15 PM MDT up reply actions  

Love It.

You, sir, have a way with words.

"A player who conjugates a verb in the first person singular cannot be part of the squad, he has to conjugate the verb in the first person plural. We. We want to conquer. We are going to conquer. Using the word 'I' when you're in a group makes things complicated." ~ Wanderley Luxemburgo, 1999

by ejruiz on Oct 3, 2009 12:37 AM MDT reply actions  

Thanks EJ!

Precision in thought, concision in style, decision in life.

by Jeremy Bolander on Oct 3, 2009 9:16 PM MDT up reply actions  

WOW!

I really can’t say anything more than “WOW!”… I don’t understand all of it, because there are way too many words that I’ve never heard before, but so it is not being a native speaker…

Thank you bro!

by DjBroncos on Oct 3, 2009 4:08 AM MDT reply actions  

I felt like I was walking a fine line regarding terminology as it is

Definitely not trying to discriminate, and I deeply appreciate the time you took to fight through it. Thank you very much DJ!

Precision in thought, concision in style, decision in life.

by Jeremy Bolander on Oct 3, 2009 9:18 PM MDT up reply actions  

Nice STyg!

Those that cant coach, compete!
Failing to plan is planning to fail.
All I want is 53 Rod Smiths. Is that asking too much????
"Peyton Hillis didn’t rip the sleeves off his jersey, they flew off out of fear."
Calijoefornia.

by boydy2669 on Oct 3, 2009 5:00 AM MDT reply actions  

Keep up the good work B

Precision in thought, concision in style, decision in life.

by Jeremy Bolander on Oct 3, 2009 9:18 PM MDT up reply actions  

a convergence of talent...theme...timing

i am so proud of you…MHR is a special place for special minds with special ideas

MHR...and proud of it!

by MHRsGirl on Oct 3, 2009 7:09 AM MDT reply actions  

...and special readers

looking for a special connection to a very special team in 09.

Precision in thought, concision in style, decision in life.

by Jeremy Bolander on Oct 3, 2009 9:19 PM MDT up reply actions  

Rec for sure

This is one fine example of why I love this site! I can come to understand , that even though every game is important, it is the prize at the end we are after. And as stated on this site many times, we are witnessing something special. It won’t be until years to come that we realize it. That is if we as fans don’t forget the games played! Thanks!

GO BRONCOS!

Tough times don't last.......Only tough people!

by moorebroncos on Oct 3, 2009 8:41 AM MDT reply actions  

It could be years...

one thing about watching this team is that I have been very content just to… watch. I don’t have a driving urge to explain what I am seeing or anything like I have the past few years, where I was writing articles before the game is even finished.

Its like watching an Elway come from behind victory. You get so wrapped up in watching and hoping that you kind of forget what you are doing and why. You are happy just to BE there…

Precision in thought, concision in style, decision in life.

by Jeremy Bolander on Oct 3, 2009 9:24 PM MDT up reply actions  

Couldn't have said it better
Three tasks down, the Denver Broncos now face another, and as they move unhesitatingly from one to the next, resolute, they have taken up naturally the stride of a giant.

As usual, your pen has proved ensorceling.

Rec’d. And thank you.

"Take what you can. Give nothing back!"

by Colorado_Kitten on Oct 3, 2009 5:45 PM MDT reply actions  

ensorceled by a pen you say?

I really, really believe that it takes two to tango, and so writing off any of Denver;s opponents because they are prone to certain types of mistakes is an error all its own.

I’d be laughed out of the majority of MSM thinktanks for uttering a line like that about the Broncos, but I just can’t think any differently about the topic. Every year teams lose to the likes of the raiders and browns. There is no free lunch in this league. You step on three teams the way that Denver has, and as far as I’m concerned, those are huge steps that shouldn’t be taken for granted.

Precision in thought, concision in style, decision in life.

by Jeremy Bolander on Oct 3, 2009 9:44 PM MDT up reply actions  

I think a lot of people...

…like MHR-U and Chalk Talk, but when I tell them that “I’m” not that great of a writer they seem to think I’m being modest. I’m not. There are a great many writers at MHR who have an artistic and masterful grasp of the English language. Guys like Styg and Bear can write circles around me, and work like this proves it.

It doesn’t take away from my posts. It just proves that we are blessed with technical writers, poetic writers, motivational writers, humorous writers, etc. Amazing that none of them (us) would be labled “professional” writers.

It may sound big headed of me, but when it comes to the members of MHR, I just love us!

Rec’d!

"Greater is an army of sheep led by a lion, than an army of lions led by a sheep" Defoe

by Steve Nichols on Oct 3, 2009 6:01 PM MDT reply actions  

Amazing that none of them (us) would be labled "professional" writers.

It just goes to show how much we all value communication around these parts. It takes a lot of ideas to make the world go around, and MHR seems very well represented!

Precision in thought, concision in style, decision in life.

by Jeremy Bolander on Oct 3, 2009 9:48 PM MDT up reply actions  

talking just to hear yourself doesn't make you a great speaker...

not to be rude but that was a long winded way of saying the same thing over and over…jmo…

I don't need a compass to know which way the wind shines....

by hashishkabob on Oct 3, 2009 6:24 PM MDT reply actions  

Absolutely delightful, styg

Great piece – and great comments, from all

Hillis/Moreno in '09

by Doc Bear on Oct 4, 2009 1:20 AM MDT reply actions  

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