Tale of Four Quarterbacks
Once there were four guys who wanted to be Quarterback. Of these four guys two played a conservative game and two played a devil may care game. Two were touted as amazing gifted and top notch, two were considered questionable. One of these quarterbacks has become a household name, the other three are on the cusp of finding their identity. Lets look at these four quarterbacks a little more.
When comparing players, quarterbacks especially it is difficult to judge sucess. Different styles of play, differnt offenses and different mind sets come into play and can affect statisics. For example, a quarterback may have a 50% completion record but 0 interceptions whe another may have a 60% completion record but 10 interceptions. To me, I would take the QB with 50% because he, in my mind takes care of the football. Some however may want the 60% and are willing to give up the interceptions. So using this logic that stats can be decieving I am going to use stats as best I can to show you these four quarterbacks. I will use their first season where they played a minimum of ten games.
QB1:
Comp. % 63.3 TD 18 INT 12 Ratio (TD:Int) 1.5:1
QB2:
Comp. % 63.6 TD 20 INT 14 Ratio (TD:Int) 1.4:1
QB3:
Comp. % 53.8 TD 13 INT 8 Ratio (TD:Int) 1.6:1
QB4:
Comp. % 51.6 TD 9 INT 13 Ratio (TD:Int) 0.7:1
Now thats their first year of 10+ games. Infact all of them played 15 that year. None of these QB's look impressive do they? Infact I am sure you guys have some players in mind when you see these.Maybe I should take their first 2 years total and see how it adds up
QB1:
Comp. % 63.7 TD 18 INT 12 Ratio (TD:Int) 1.5:1
QB2:
Comp. % 62.6 TD 29 INT 19 Ratio (TD:Int) 1.5:1
QB3:
Comp. % 53.9 TD 15 INT 12 Ratio (TD:Int) 1.3:1
QB4:
Comp. % 52.0 TD 12 INT 15 Ratio (TD:Int) 0.8:1
Still none of these quarterbacks are awe inspiring. Now some have had more time to develop than others in fact one of these Quarterbacks is only in his third year so, how do you find equal stats? same # of games? probably not. Career stats are hard when one has been around forever and one hasnt right? okay how about career Completion percentage and TD to Int ratio?
QB1:
Comp% 62.9 Ratio 2.3:1
QB2 :
Comp% 62.6 Ratio 1.4:1
QB3:
Comp% 52.1 Ratio1:1
QB4:
Comp% 55.3 Ratio 1.2:1
Interesting isnt it? Now one thing I have to say is that three of these quarterbacks have shared two offensive coordinators so now here is an interesting stat set
QB1 with OC1
68.8% 6.3:1 (TD:Int)
QB4 with OC1
55.7% 3:0 (TD:Int)
QB2 with OC2
64.4% 1.2:1 (TD:Int)
QB4 with OC2
55.3% 1.1:1 (TD:Int)
Interesting how OC1 made his QB's look stellar and OC2 leaves room to wonder. Now I had to go with college stats cause that might do it right? ok:
QB1:
Comp% 62.3 Ratio 1.8:1
QB2:
Comp% 59.7 Ratio 2.2:1
QB3:
Comp% 60.7 Ratio 6.2:1
QB4:
Comp% 61.9 Ratio 2.5:1
Now there are some more stats for you crazy how in the right system people can do well QB1 in the NFL in the sysytem he is in and QB4 in his college system. Now if he finds an NFL system for him he may turn out great! QB2 and QB3 look like they are who they were in college so no surprises there.
Interesting facts:
QB1 and QB4 were drafted in the 2-7th round and QB2 and QB3 were top 15 picks.
now when you look through these stats add to this...
QB1- Tom Brady
QB2- Jay Cutler
QB3- JaMarcus Russell
QB4- Kyle Orton
just some food for thought here. Brady is the Control here just for information.
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Thanks, Jon
Some very interesting numbers.. I know which two QBs I wouldn’t want!
Rec’d.
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by hairybear on Oct 2, 2009 6:44 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
thank you
I thought so too someone said Brees and Orton were similar in college so I had to check and they were right so its all about Orton finding HIS team the same way Brees found his IMO
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by Jon Tollerud on Oct 2, 2009 6:54 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
funny how nobody except 1 person so far
wants one miss cutler
by papasteven on Oct 2, 2009 7:09 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
Who cares about Jay Cutler? Seriously....Bueller......Bueller...he is a Bear...
I MAy care about him if we play him in regular season…..IT MATTERS NOT!
Those that cant coach, compete!
Failing to plan is planning to fail.
All I want is 53 Rod Smiths. Is that asking too much????
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by boydy2669 on Oct 2, 2009 8:50 PM MDT reply actions 1 recs
Completion percentage is a suspect stat
Until they start excluding passes that are intentionally thrown away. Some QBs, OCs, and systems do this more than others, and it skews the numbers.
by CoastalBronco on Oct 2, 2009 9:06 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
Don't waste your time responding to Geo
He a d-bag troll with a major superiority complex, as you can see. Do us all a favor and ignore him, please.
by BFF46350 on Oct 2, 2009 9:26 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Love the dedication Jon
hate the argument that’s starting to boil over in the comments though.
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by Joe Medina on Oct 2, 2009 9:38 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
Thanks Joe
the point of the post was to show that we didnt lose a whole lot in trading QB’s in fact with Orton’s ability to be coached we actually gained. I am one of those who will take 50% and 0 ints vs 65% and 10 ints
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"We should have kept Seattle and dumped San Diego from the Division"
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by Jon Tollerud on Oct 2, 2009 9:51 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Kyle Orton is taking baby steps.
Being a game manager when you want go out there and make something happen just isn’t right for some QB’s. Kyle is learning a new system and playbook and he may have the playbook down but it will take repertitions to get to the point where he is totally comfortable. We have watched him metamorphose right in front of our eyes in a little over a months time. Once he gets it we will witness something very special. Just wait a see.
by bfree2bronc on Oct 3, 2009 10:38 AM MDT reply actions 0 recs
I really appologize
I didn’t think that this thread would cause so much problem however, I am not deleting it because it is information based not really opinion based however i may state my opinion a few times.
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"We should have kept Seattle and dumped San Diego from the Division"
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by Jon Tollerud on Oct 3, 2009 2:51 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
It hasn't, Jon
It’s a good article and you’re welcome to state your opinion and its reasons. Don’t let the statements of a few dissuade you from writing!
Hillis/Moreno in '09
by Emmett Smith on Oct 3, 2009 2:57 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
JT...its a good post man...keep posting away...I love your stuff!
Those that cant coach, compete!
Failing to plan is planning to fail.
All I want is 53 Rod Smiths. Is that asking too much????
"Peyton Hillis didn’t rip the sleeves off his jersey, they flew off out of fear."
Calijoefornia.
by boydy2669 on Oct 3, 2009 5:06 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

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