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Tale of Four Quarterbacks

     Once there were four guys who wanted to be Quarterback. Of these four guys two played a conservative game and two played a devil may care game. Two were touted as amazing gifted and top notch, two were considered questionable. One of these quarterbacks has become a household name, the other three are on the cusp of finding their identity. Lets look at these four quarterbacks a little more.

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When comparing players, quarterbacks especially it is difficult to judge sucess. Different styles of play, differnt offenses and different mind sets come into play and can affect statisics. For example, a quarterback may have a 50% completion record but 0 interceptions whe another may have a 60% completion record but 10 interceptions. To me, I would take the QB with 50% because he, in my mind takes care of the football. Some however may want the 60% and are willing to give up the interceptions. So using this logic that stats can be decieving I am going to use stats as best I can to show you these four quarterbacks. I will use their first season where they played a minimum of ten games.

 

QB1:

Comp. % 63.3     TD 18     INT 12     Ratio (TD:Int) 1.5:1

QB2:

Comp. % 63.6     TD 20     INT 14     Ratio (TD:Int) 1.4:1

QB3:

Comp. % 53.8     TD 13     INT 8     Ratio (TD:Int) 1.6:1

QB4:

Comp. % 51.6     TD 9     INT 13     Ratio (TD:Int) 0.7:1

 

Now thats their first year of 10+ games. Infact all of them played 15 that year. None of these QB's look impressive do they? Infact I am sure you guys have some players in mind when you see these.Maybe I should take their first 2 years total and see how it adds up

QB1:

Comp. % 63.7     TD 18     INT 12     Ratio (TD:Int) 1.5:1

QB2:

Comp. % 62.6     TD 29     INT 19    Ratio (TD:Int) 1.5:1

QB3:

Comp. % 53.9     TD 15     INT 12     Ratio (TD:Int) 1.3:1

QB4:

Comp. % 52.0     TD 12     INT 15     Ratio (TD:Int) 0.8:1

 

Still none of these quarterbacks are awe inspiring. Now some have had more time to develop than others in fact one of these Quarterbacks is only in his third year so, how do you find equal stats? same # of games? probably not. Career stats are hard when one has been around forever and one hasnt right? okay how about career Completion percentage and TD to Int ratio?

QB1:

Comp% 62.9     Ratio 2.3:1

QB2 :

Comp% 62.6     Ratio 1.4:1

QB3:

Comp% 52.1     Ratio1:1

QB4:

Comp% 55.3     Ratio 1.2:1

 

Interesting isnt it? Now one thing I have to say is that three of these quarterbacks have shared two offensive coordinators so now here is an interesting stat set

QB1 with OC1

68.8%  6.3:1 (TD:Int)

QB4 with OC1

55.7% 3:0 (TD:Int)

QB2 with OC2

64.4% 1.2:1 (TD:Int)

QB4 with OC2

55.3% 1.1:1 (TD:Int)

Interesting how OC1 made his QB's look stellar and OC2 leaves room to wonder. Now I had to go with college stats cause that might do it right? ok:

QB1:

Comp% 62.3     Ratio 1.8:1

QB2:

Comp% 59.7     Ratio 2.2:1

QB3:

Comp% 60.7     Ratio 6.2:1

QB4:

Comp% 61.9    Ratio 2.5:1

Now there are some more stats for you crazy how in the right system people can do well QB1 in the NFL in the sysytem he is in and QB4 in his college system. Now if he finds an NFL system for him he may turn out great! QB2 and QB3 look like they are who they were in college so no surprises there.

Interesting facts:

QB1 and QB4 were drafted in the 2-7th round and QB2 and QB3 were top 15 picks.

now when you look through these stats add to this...

QB1- Tom Brady

QB2- Jay Cutler

QB3- JaMarcus Russell

QB4- Kyle Orton

just some food for thought here. Brady is the Control here just for information.

Poll
who would be your choice at QB
Orton
79 votes
Cutler
35 votes
Russell
2 votes

116 votes | Poll has closed

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Thanks, Jon

Some very interesting numbers.. I know which two QBs I wouldn’t want!

Rec’d.

" Life is what happens while you're making other plans "

by hairybear on Oct 2, 2009 6:44 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

thank you

I thought so too someone said Brees and Orton were similar in college so I had to check and they were right so its all about Orton finding HIS team the same way Brees found his IMO

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"We should have kept Seattle and dumped San Diego from the Division"

Davis and Sharpe to the Hall!

by Jon Tollerud on Oct 2, 2009 6:54 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Who cares about Jay Cutler? Seriously....Bueller......Bueller...he is a Bear...

I MAy care about him if we play him in regular season…..IT MATTERS NOT!

Those that cant coach, compete!
Failing to plan is planning to fail.
All I want is 53 Rod Smiths. Is that asking too much????
"Peyton Hillis didn’t rip the sleeves off his jersey, they flew off out of fear."
Calijoefornia.

by boydy2669 on Oct 2, 2009 8:50 PM MDT reply actions   1 recs

Completion percentage is a suspect stat

Until they start excluding passes that are intentionally thrown away. Some QBs, OCs, and systems do this more than others, and it skews the numbers.

by CoastalBronco on Oct 2, 2009 9:06 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

Don't waste your time responding to Geo

He a d-bag troll with a major superiority complex, as you can see. Do us all a favor and ignore him, please.

by BFF46350 on Oct 2, 2009 9:26 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Love the dedication Jon

hate the argument that’s starting to boil over in the comments though.

"FLAG! Fail on the field. Re-do." -Disco_Stu

by Joe Medina on Oct 2, 2009 9:38 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

Thanks Joe

the point of the post was to show that we didnt lose a whole lot in trading QB’s in fact with Orton’s ability to be coached we actually gained. I am one of those who will take 50% and 0 ints vs 65% and 10 ints

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"We should have kept Seattle and dumped San Diego from the Division"

Davis and Sharpe to the Hall!

by Jon Tollerud on Oct 2, 2009 9:51 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Kyle Orton is taking baby steps.

Being a game manager when you want go out there and make something happen just isn’t right for some QB’s. Kyle is learning a new system and playbook and he may have the playbook down but it will take repertitions to get to the point where he is totally comfortable. We have watched him metamorphose right in front of our eyes in a little over a months time. Once he gets it we will witness something very special. Just wait a see.

by bfree2bronc on Oct 3, 2009 10:38 AM MDT reply actions   0 recs

I really appologize

I didn’t think that this thread would cause so much problem however, I am not deleting it because it is information based not really opinion based however i may state my opinion a few times.

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"We should have kept Seattle and dumped San Diego from the Division"

Davis and Sharpe to the Hall!

by Jon Tollerud on Oct 3, 2009 2:51 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

It hasn't, Jon

It’s a good article and you’re welcome to state your opinion and its reasons. Don’t let the statements of a few dissuade you from writing!

Hillis/Moreno in '09

by Emmett Smith on Oct 3, 2009 2:57 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

JT...its a good post man...keep posting away...I love your stuff!

Those that cant coach, compete!
Failing to plan is planning to fail.
All I want is 53 Rod Smiths. Is that asking too much????
"Peyton Hillis didn’t rip the sleeves off his jersey, they flew off out of fear."
Calijoefornia.

by boydy2669 on Oct 3, 2009 5:06 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

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