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Horse Tracks 10/20/09 - Broncos head into bye at 6-0 after defeating San Diego; Time to start thinking big

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GOOD MORNING, MHR Friends! Well, that's it. No more sneaking up on people. Everyone knows about the Denver Broncos now. Next comes a week off for the nicked-up players to heal; BDawk, Haggan and Fields most notably. I'd been waiting 13 months to see a game like this from Eddie Royal. No, not the zero catch-effort some moronic writer asked McDaniels after the game, but of course the two TD returns. Best part? They didn't require anything miraculous from Eddie - just speed and making the proper read. In other words, those results are repeatable. But it wasn't just Eddie last night - think of all the guys who made huge plays: Scheffler, Orton, BMarsh, Doom, D.J., Stokes, clutch conversions by Moreno & Buck, saving tackles from Champ; not to mention the spectacular blocking on ST and the O-Line. That's what makes this team great (there, I said it). Everyone contributes, everyone makes big, important plays. The Broncos are 6-0 and they have still yet to play anything close to a perfect game (although I think Orton is getting close). Suddenly, there are no "automatic" losses on the calendar; remember how the schedule makers had given the Broncos no chance in '09? It's time to start thinking big, folks (it's okay, we're just fans); like first-round bye big and beyond...

NFL - Broncos 34, Chargers 23 - Video clips with radio calls

NFL - Royal is king - Video of Eddie's KR TD

NFL - A Royal return - Video of Eddie's PR TD

NFL - Denver Broncos 34 at San Diego Chargers 23 - Box Score

DB - Chargers Postgame: McDaniels - Broncos TV

DB - Chargers Postgame: Orton - Broncos TV

Star-divide

DB - Royal Strikes Twice - Gray Caldwell

DB - Broncos Shine Under the Lights - Zach Eisendrath

DPP - Broncos improve to 6-0 with win at San Diego - Mike Klis

DPP - Bowlen happy with his young new coach

DPP - Broncos take awhile to get to QB Rivers - Lindsay Jones

DPP - Broncos answered foe's "D" - Jeff Legwold

DPP - Pregame spat featured shouts, pushing, shoving - Mike Klis

DPP - Broncos 34, Chargers 23: Bests, worsts and breakdown - Lindsay Jones

DPP - Krieger: Defense adjusts to winning

DPP - Kiszla: Jay who? Orton has all-pro skill

CSG - Hats off to Broncos who improve to 6-0 - Frank Schwab

CSG - Broncos breakdown - Frank Schwab

CSG - Broncos notes: Dawkins injured, but still is valuable to team - Frank Schwab

CSG - There is no reason to doubt how far this team can go - David Ramsey

DPP - Sullivan: Broncos not house of cards

CBS4 - Elway: It's All About Chemistry So Far For Broncos - Jesse Sarles

AP - Eddie Royal Sparks Broncos Win - Bernie Wilson

NFP - Monday night rewind - Matt Bowen

SN - Dumervil Helps Broncos Shut Down Chargers Late - Albert Breer

SI - Broncos won't lose grip of big West lead this time around - Jim Trotter

CBS - McDaniels continues to make all the right moves - Tom Krasovic

FOX - Broncos, Chargers heading in different directions - Mark Kriegel

ESPN - Brash Broncos back it up with a perfect record - Bill Williamson

NFL - Chargers staff member injured in fall from Qualcomn press box
Our thoughts go out to the Chargers and Walt Daniels for a speedy recovery

NFLTA - Broncos vs. Chargers highlights - Video

San Diego News

SDUT - Broncos saddle Bolts with hard-to-swallow loss - Kevin Acee

SDUT - This team has fallen flat, fast - Nick Canepa

SDUT - Tables have turned for Chargers - Tim Sullivan

SDUT - LT doesn't get call to run the ball - Chris Jenkins & Kevin Gemmell

SDUT - It's what's up front that counts - Kevin Acee

SDUT - Return teams something special on this night - Tod Leonard

SDUT - Taking stock of socks 'n' sacks - Chris Jenkins

NCT - Bolts lose a must-win game, fall 3 1/2 games behind undefeated Broncos - Scott Bair

Ravens News

BS - Is Ravens defense beyond repair? - Jamison Hensley

BS - Forget a face-lift; Ravens only have time for cosmetics - Mike Preston

BS - Harbaugh 'not optimistic' on Rolle's return this season - Edward Lee

NYT - What’s Stopping the Ravens This Year Is Their Defense - Judy Battista

AFC West News

KCS - Chiefs get to see how they can handle victory - Adam Teicher

KCS - Chiefs send Tank Tyler to Panthers - Adam Teicher

SFC - Raiders know one (win) is the loneliest number - David White

SFC - Napa D.A. still reviewing case - David White

NFL News

SN - Sources: Shanahan Turned Down Redskins

NFL - Redskins' Zorn out of comfort zone, gives up play-calling to Lewis

NFL - League gives Panthers' Wesley one-game suspension for hit

NFL - Jets NT Jenkins out for season with torn ACL in left knee

NFL - Redskins will stick with Campbell as starter

NFL - Titans owner: Fisher safe for now; practices to be closed during bye

NFL - Lions QB Stafford will be evaluated by noted orthopedic surgeon

NFL - Seahawks LB Tatupu could miss just a few weeks with chest injury

SN - Sources: Shanahan Turned Down Redskins

NFL Opinion

NFP - The Monday Tavern - Mike Lombardi

Y! - Saints finally match Payton's vision - Mike Silver

Y! - Will Dorsey, Chambers get sent packing? - Jason Cole

SI - Drew Brees' New Orleans Saints are best team in NFL - Peter King

NFL - Six from Sunday: Prolific passing rules the day - Pat Kirwan

SI - Tom Brady, Randy Moss, Wes Welker return to form for Patriots - Jerome Bettis

NYT - Why the N.F.L. Trade Deadline Lacks Drama - Andrew Das

NFP - Bears trade frees up cash for Cutler - Andrew Brandt

FOX - The Day After: Bears have an identity crisis - John Czarnecki

NFL - Maybe better players would improve Zorn's play-calling - Mike Lombardi

SN - NFL power poll: Saints take over top spot - Clifton Brown

Poll
What are your expectations for the Broncos now?
9 wins or fewer
8 votes
10 or 11 wins
311 votes
12 or more wins
577 votes

896 votes | Poll has closed

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6-0!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I’m still really pumped!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

by Fan in Exile on Oct 20, 2009 6:29 AM MDT reply actions  

Thnx NYC!

Didn’t get to see the second half last night.. Looking forward to seeing us kick their butts all over the field!

Wasn’t expecting a win after the first half.. Was very pleasantly surprised this morning!

by HorseStance on Oct 20, 2009 6:47 AM MDT reply actions  

Thanks NYC and the 6-0 BRONCOS

we just need to remind BMAESH that he is not a kicker and KMOR to keep his helment on. LOL

live and die blue and orange

by jerry251 on Oct 20, 2009 6:52 AM MDT reply actions  

lol I saw that helmet and thought

wait…didn’t we get rid of Nate Webster?

"Take what you can. Give nothing back!"

by Colorado_Kitten on Oct 20, 2009 9:08 AM MDT up reply actions  

Per ChiBronx, Nate Webster is not to be discussed at MHR.

by McGeorge on Oct 20, 2009 9:11 AM MDT up reply actions   1 recs

His helmet was knocked off during the play...no penalty...

the penalty was for spiking the ball at the defender in the ground…..rookie mistake letting his emotions get the best of him….same with Marshall……thats one thing I was worried about all night, keeping a level head through all of the emotion….

"The question that sometimes drives me hazy, Am I or the others crazy?" -Albert Einstein

by Disturbed70 on Oct 20, 2009 12:12 PM MDT up reply actions  

errrr defender ON the ground ....

"The question that sometimes drives me hazy, Am I or the others crazy?" -Albert Einstein

by Disturbed70 on Oct 20, 2009 12:12 PM MDT up reply actions  

Well,

it was Merroidman, so he might as well have been IN the ground…

"It's all over Fat Man" - Tom Jackson to John Madden 1977 AFC Championship Game

by DesertBroncoFan on Oct 20, 2009 12:25 PM MDT up reply actions  

Good Mornin nyc, and Thanks... I heard from a friend from San Diego right after the game. She said after the Broncos shorted out the bolts, She heard the coach say,

“They are,Who we thought they were.”
Go Broncos

Real Power, comes with the realization that One cannot change the Moment;
only ones perception of it: Atitude! JQM

by UB3 on Oct 20, 2009 7:25 AM MDT reply actions  

"That was disrespectful," said San Diego linebacker Shawne Merriman

The idea of anyone on that team trying to lecture about being respectful damn near makes my blood boil

Lest anyone forget:

Nothing makes me happier than seeing the Chargers get their comeuppance

Oh and even the refs would like Merriman to shut up

by ch3cooh1 on Oct 20, 2009 7:26 AM MDT reply actions  

One thing in fairness to Merriman...

…when the confrontation started before the game, it was Merriman who jumped in and pulled his guys away. He was trying to break the thing up, and I give hime respect for that.

"Greater is an army of sheep led by a lion, than an army of lions led by a sheep" Defoe

by Steve Nichols on Oct 20, 2009 7:46 AM MDT up reply actions  

Don’t give Merriman any credit. That guy is done with San Diego. He hates AJ Smith and would like nothing more than to be traded today.

He is the new Igor Olshansky. He has mailed it in for San Diego, just like Igor did in his contract year. AJ Smith has that effect on a lot of his players.

by McGeorge on Oct 20, 2009 7:54 AM MDT up reply actions  

Ya

What was Merriman talking about? At the beginning ESPN showed the footage and the Charger player came over and started the stuff. Chargers have always been like that.

When you can do the common things in life in a uncommon way, you will command the attention of the world.
- George Washington Carver

How do you keep the Broncos Humble?
"Just show them the film. Show them the film." - Josh McDaniels

by Kfustud on Oct 20, 2009 9:11 AM MDT up reply actions  

wtf where they doing at the tunnel we come out of anyway....wouldnt let us on the field

that was classless….line up in front of the visitors tunnel and start chirping like a bunch of tweety birds….totally classless and petty….glad we shoved it back into their face with the final score!!

"The question that sometimes drives me hazy, Am I or the others crazy?" -Albert Einstein

by Disturbed70 on Oct 20, 2009 12:16 PM MDT up reply actions  

How Much

You want to bet that the trash talking has always happened before the games and the Chargers have always dominated.

This was their equivalent of thinking “same old Broncos.”

Well Rivers’ comments after the game said it all, this isn’t the same old Broncos and the Chargers got stunned. They know that their season is practically over.

How do you keep the Broncos Humble?
"Just show them the film. Show them the film." - Josh McDaniels

by Kfustud on Oct 20, 2009 1:25 PM MDT up reply actions  

Two things I like

There are many things to like about this team, but for me 2 things stand out: the ability to get a pass rush in comparison to past years, and game preparation. I’ll admit that I had some doubts about the Broncs going into SD, but I was sure of one thing – no blowout. This team has demonstrated the ability to stay close to teams which has got to take a ton of preparation. Kudos to the coaching staff for that.

by elimin8 on Oct 20, 2009 7:38 AM MDT reply actions  

That was the best Bronco win in a long long time. We all just witnessed the end of San Diego’s AFC West dominance last night. The myth that San Diego is uber talented was just destroyed and this lose will be very hard for them to rebound from. Would not surprise me one bit if the Dolts come out flat and KC beats them in KC next Sunday.

by McGeorge on Oct 20, 2009 7:57 AM MDT up reply actions  

Uber Talented Myth

Man they are so lopsided too. There is no talent in so many places.

When you can do the common things in life in a uncommon way, you will command the attention of the world.
- George Washington Carver

How do you keep the Broncos Humble?
"Just show them the film. Show them the film." - Josh McDaniels

by Kfustud on Oct 20, 2009 9:11 AM MDT up reply actions  

The Dolts need a new: RB, #2 WR, RT, NT, DE, ILB, and SS. And they are not all that great a FS, #2 CB, OLB and RG.

So many holes. Just nonsense how much this Dolt team is fawned over. It’s not 2006 anymore.

by McGeorge on Oct 20, 2009 9:15 AM MDT up reply actions  

Paper Champions....

"The question that sometimes drives me hazy, Am I or the others crazy?" -Albert Einstein

by Disturbed70 on Oct 20, 2009 12:28 PM MDT up reply actions  

I’ve been fond of calling them the Preseason Champions

And the Post Season fodder.

by McGeorge on Oct 20, 2009 1:16 PM MDT up reply actions  

I didn't want the Chargers' last drive to end

How many times could Philip Rivers be driven into the ground on one possession? I lost count. It was so wonderful.

by Chibronx on Oct 20, 2009 8:20 AM MDT reply actions  

LOL they started looking like the Seahawks unis ;)

"The question that sometimes drives me hazy, Am I or the others crazy?" -Albert Einstein

by Disturbed70 on Oct 21, 2009 1:53 PM MDT up reply actions  

Thanks Nyc

The Broncos serve notice to the rest of the league. “We are for real.”
And Josh McDaniels and Pat Bowlen have created quite a large learning curve for the rest of the league, as they must now scramble to keep up. 13-3 Baby!
Do you believe yet?

Character may be manifested in the great moments but it is made in the small ones -- Philip Brooks

by KaptainKirk on Oct 20, 2009 8:25 AM MDT reply actions  

By the way...

Did it stick out to anyone that after Sproles scored he pointed to his name on the back of his own jersey? That says everything I need to know about the Chargers. Aside from Philip Rivers (who is unquestionably great), the Dolts are a bunch of “me” guys, sort of like the Broncos may have been in recent years.

by Douglas A. Lee on Oct 20, 2009 8:27 AM MDT reply actions   2 recs

I’ve never seen so much swagger from a low-achieving team as I have from the Chargers the last 5 years. If you looked through media coverage of the NFL over the long-run, few teams have been pumped up as mightily as the Chargers with so little achievement on the field.

by Chibronx on Oct 20, 2009 8:31 AM MDT up reply actions  

Much like a spoilt children..

.. Spoilt children often have that kind of attitude.. What is interesting though is that they are very quick to internally self destruct.. LT angry about not being played is an example of that.. that does not aid team cohesiveness, it breaks it apart from the inside..

by HorseStance on Oct 20, 2009 8:43 AM MDT up reply actions  

Especially when contrasted ...

By Eddies response to both of his scores…

"as in football so in life"

by asinsoin on Oct 20, 2009 9:57 AM MDT up reply actions  

SD a bunch of me players not team players....

one reason they haven’t won a Super Bowl…..and until that changes they will never win one ;)

"The question that sometimes drives me hazy, Am I or the others crazy?" -Albert Einstein

by Disturbed70 on Oct 20, 2009 12:30 PM MDT up reply actions  

Thanks NYC, did you get any sleep last night?

You got to give SD some credit, they were ready to play. Finally we put them away and didn’t have to watch our defense give it right back to them. How about Mike Nolan bringing the pressure at the end, that was a beautiful thing not allowing them to sit back and pick us apart. We were the better team last night period.

Anyone catch what Gruden said at the end of the game, something along the lines of; “Would you rather have a qb who wins games or one who can throw the ball”

Denver rookie head coach Josh McDaniels doesn't have a grasp on how to build a team." - John Clayton, April 23rd, 2009

by diviesti on Oct 20, 2009 8:46 AM MDT reply actions  

Well, I was so pumped up that I probably didn’t fall asleep until 12:45 or so, then up at 6:10. So not a ton of sleep, but at least I made the wise choice to watch the game on the couch rather than out. That would’ve been ugly…

by Douglas A. Lee on Oct 20, 2009 8:49 AM MDT up reply actions  

I did make that other choice

I went out, and it was ugly…….but it was SO BEAUTIFUL!!!!!

"I have not failed. I've just found 10,000 ways that won't work."
- Thomas Alva Edison

"Success is not a place at which one arrives, but rather... the spirit with which one undertakes and continues the journey."
- Alex Noble

by DenBronx on Oct 20, 2009 8:53 AM MDT up reply actions  

I was up til 1am

too jazzed up to sleep. I did sleep in til 7am though. =)

Character may be manifested in the great moments but it is made in the small ones -- Philip Brooks

by KaptainKirk on Oct 20, 2009 10:53 AM MDT up reply actions  

Awesome game

I’m still stoked about it. ONly watched about half of it because I was having a rollercoaster of emotions in the Dodger game (which ultimately made me want to kill all of humanity, but never mind that… Thank God for the Broncos!) ;-) ANYWAY…

Does anyone else have NFL Rewind? (I bought the Broncos games-only package.) I was going to try to watch part of the game this morning but it is STILL not up on NFL.Com NFL Rewind. Usually they go up a few hours after the games on Sunday, and I assumed MNF games go up by next morning, but it still says “available soon.” Pisses me off, why did I pay for that again…?

Oh well, saw the highlights, saw Eddie’s 2nd run and Scheffler’s awesome TD live too. What a sweet, sweet game.

The commenter formerly known as "Dashiell".

by underdog on Oct 20, 2009 9:11 AM MDT reply actions  

Amazing Play

I was really on my seat when the defense kept giving up big plays for 10+ yard. But man when you look at it we gave up what? 1 TD and a handful of field goals to the Chargers?

Great defense. Plus you have to love designed mismatches. Scheffler on that rookie LB and San Diego could never adjust. Brilliant game.

When you can do the common things in life in a uncommon way, you will command the attention of the world.
- George Washington Carver

How do you keep the Broncos Humble?
"Just show them the film. Show them the film." - Josh McDaniels

by Kfustud on Oct 20, 2009 9:14 AM MDT reply actions  

Good Quote
Halloween’s around the corner, but unless the NFL bans halftime and the second halves of games, the Broncos aren’t turning into pumpkins anytime soon.

I thought this was great.

When you can do the common things in life in a uncommon way, you will command the attention of the world.
- George Washington Carver

How do you keep the Broncos Humble?
"Just show them the film. Show them the film." - Josh McDaniels

by Kfustud on Oct 20, 2009 9:17 AM MDT reply actions  

Going through the schedule I think we are headed for a first round bye!

I don’t understand how people say that the Broncos are a fluke. They have faced the toughest schedule by winning percentage of any of the undefeated or one defeat teams. Also all the Broncos have to do to finish 11-5 is go 5-5 in the last 10 games.
Lets go game by game here.
7 Bye
8 Nov 01 DEN @ BAL I think that Denver matches up well with Baltimore on the WR vs CB on both sides and have the defensive line to limit the amount of running successes. Also give McDaniels and Nolan 2 weeks to prepare and its easy. WIN 7-0
    
9 Nov 09 PIT @ DEN Again we just have to make sure that they become one dimensional (no running game) and put pressure on Big Ben. I would be scared more if it was in PIT but I expect that defense to play well with Troy back. Close game but LOSE 7-1
    
10 Nov 15 DEN @ WAS Easy. Jim Zorn, Jason Campbell, lost at home to KC, and 29th ranked scoring offense. Enough said. WIN 8-1
    
11 Nov 22 SD @ DEN Same game plan as last night. If we just controlled Sproules it would have been worse. Defense got left out too much because of Royal’s returns put them right back on the field (not that I’m complaining too much!). Key stat: 3 points scored by SD in 2nd half. WIN 9-1
    
12 Nov 26 NYG @ DEN Again close game. All depends on which NYG offense shows up. I believe we can stop their pass rush but idk how well their offense will do. Toss up goes to home team WIN 10-1
    
13 Dec 06 DEN @ KC KC 26th ranked scoring defense. WIN 11-1
    
14 Dec 13 DEN @ IND Peyton Manning planning for home field advantage in AFC. I’ll take Peyton on this one but do expect a close game. LOSS 11-2
    
15 Dec 20 OAK @ DEN Oakland, Russel, at home. Enough said. WIN 12-2
    
16 Dec 27 DEN @ PHI This is another tough one. Depends on what Philly team shows up. But it is at home and since it is a toss up (at this point we will see how well Philly does up until here). Win goes to home team though LOSS 12-3
    
17 Jan 03 KC @ DEN Again KC, in Denver. WIN 13-3 even with the subs playing, depending on what Indy does throughout the season that is.

There you go 13-3. I would guess that Indy also goes 13-3 just based on what their schedule looks like so Head-to-head tie gives them the 1 seed and Denver the 2 seed. Playoffs here we come!

by ColoradoAggie11 on Oct 20, 2009 9:33 AM MDT reply actions  

I like the optimism

However, historically the Broncos have always found a way to lose at least one game a year that they have no business losing. McD’s preparation for games so far has led me to believe that there will not be a letdown vs. the Skins or KC. But I still get the same uneasy feeling when I look at those games on the schedule.

"I clearly miscalculated how popular it would be to show Calvin urinating on a Ford logo"--Bill Watterson

by frightened inmate #2 on Oct 20, 2009 12:37 PM MDT up reply actions  

Reading the San Diego newspapers was heaven. Those guys have already “fired Norv”, “been eliminated from the playoffs” and discussed the pending “the massive rebuilding process”.

Seeing the wheels fall off the "uber talented Chargers" band wagon is a welcome site for my eyes. Even the players and fans seem to sense the doom that has befallen that team. It’s glorious.

by McGeorge on Oct 20, 2009 9:35 AM MDT reply actions   1 recs

+1 dude. I'm Mc(Daniels)Lovin' it too.

Blues. Cardinals. Broncos. Rockies (when not playing St. Louis!).
Drinkin' the orange kool-aid since the day McDaniels was hired.
Go DU hockey! Go Mammoth!

by HockeyHippie on Oct 20, 2009 10:29 AM MDT up reply actions  

Which players did the Broncos de-activate last night?

by McGeorge on Oct 20, 2009 10:07 AM MDT reply actions  

I put away the computer for the game so I could focus my full attention on what I was watching. I think I’ll continue to do so.

Thanks again.

by McGeorge on Oct 20, 2009 11:02 AM MDT up reply actions  

Did i miss something,

All of MHR’s staff is using their names now?

Denver rookie head coach Josh McDaniels doesn't have a grasp on how to build a team." - John Clayton, April 23rd, 2009

by diviesti on Oct 20, 2009 11:23 AM MDT reply actions  

Ha, yup. Just happened a couple of hours ago.

by Douglas A. Lee on Oct 20, 2009 12:04 PM MDT up reply actions  

A couple of things from Porkchop's article
According to ESPN’s Stats & Information, Rivers was sacked four times on blitzes.

You’d think with half of the division that he writes for playing, ol’ Bill would have actually watched the game and not have to rely on an outside agency to tell him what happened during the game.

Merriman said the two Royal returns were devastating for San Diego. "We can’t have that," Merriman said. "You can’t have two returns for scores. It would have been a totally different game if that didn’t happen."

Really? It probably would have been a totally different game if the SD offense had been able to score more than three points in the second half too!

"It's all over Fat Man" - Tom Jackson to John Madden 1977 AFC Championship Game

by DesertBroncoFan on Oct 20, 2009 12:38 PM MDT reply actions  

If you are trying to imply some level of readership expectation with a Bill Williamson article, please stop right there. Just don’t do it.

by McGeorge on Oct 20, 2009 1:19 PM MDT up reply actions  

Gotta Give it To

Bolts in the Blue. They nipped this theory in the butt already.

“Ya you want to take away the Broncos’ returns as if that was the only reason we lost. Then you have to take away our return too.”

How do you keep the Broncos Humble?
"Just show them the film. Show them the film." - Josh McDaniels

by Kfustud on Oct 20, 2009 1:27 PM MDT up reply actions  

A lot of sports writers mention their source when they cite statistics. I’m often puzzled when it’s something basic and easily found, but something like this would require some meticulous note-taking. Personally, I just know the Broncos blitzed a lot and got 5 sacks. I never would have know off the top of my head that 4 of the 5 sacks came via the blitz…

formerly known around these parts as nycbroncosfan

by Douglas A. Lee on Oct 20, 2009 1:30 PM MDT up reply actions  

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