Some seemingly unimportant observations (part 2)

by lovewatchinthegame on Oct 21, 2009 8:40 PM MDT Comment 21 comments

Are you kidding me??????????? The Broncos are 6-0 !!!!!!!!! Come on besides Rod Smith and "befree" and the rest of the 13-3 crowd who thought this was possible??????? I for one can admit I was "cautiously optimistic" what a difference 6 weeks can make!!!! Well now all of us who didn't completely believe can now start to really believe!!!! I know it isn't easy, because of all the pain of getting all excited just to be let down, or should I say completely devastated by the Broncos (ie... last three games last year), we can now come up for air and see that OMG this is not a rebuilding year!!!! But why??????

Wow nice to see you after the jump, glad you could make that huge hurdle, anyway may I begin

Observation 1

Just exactly why are the Broncos an unbelievable 6-0?????

1. a miraculous once in an NFL lifetime catch?

2. an "easy" opponent

3. an "easy" opponent

4. Dallas just didn't show up

5. Brady couldn't get the job done

6. two lucky fluky ST touchdowns by Eddie

These are are really insults to the Broncos team but the last one, to me, is a real insult, the following two articles seem to indicate that without Eddies two touchdowns the Broncos couldn't have won. Cuz it was his runs that sparked the win....

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2009/oct/20/royals-pair-of-returns-keep-broncos-unbeaten/

http://cbs4denver.com/broncos/denver.broncos.san.2.1258375.html

What I find offensive about that is all the ingredients that really made a win happen seem to be put in second or third place!!! Honestly the touchdowns were great and make for really good high light film but if you look at it from a different viewpoint I think things change a lot. Let's say Eddie get's tackled at the 45 of Denver... I feel that would have worked to Denver's advantage in the following ways...

1. The Broncos would have been able to even up the time of possesion

2. Keep Rivers and the Chargers off the field thus scoring less points

3. Denver could have still scored points even if it was only 3 they would have kept some of the Chargers points off the scoreboard.

4. The defense would have had more oppurtunities to score.

5. The defense was on the field way too much, after doing thier job and forcing a punt in one case they were right back out there. OK maybe this is a weaker argument.

With all that said, how after you look at the second half stats, do you not believe Denver would have won this game????Ok maybe I am reading too much into these articles but it does seem like they are saying the Broncos didn't so much win the game as much as the Chargers gave it away!

Observation 2

I really liked this post by John

http://www.milehighreport.com/2009/10/20/1093015/the-san-diego-chargers-the-scut

I do not like to "beat" people I just love to play the game whether it is football or basketball or chess. Win or lose I walk away from the game sweating and just happy to have interacted with others and have some fun. But I "HATE" a trash talker... or someone that comes across like they "DESERVE" to win, they are like bullies and that is when I get into the game and relish laying a licking on the person or persons needing a humbling!!! I had a bowling league experience that any of you that agree with this line of reasoning would LOVE to hear!!!

Observation 3

I was soooooooooooooooooooo wrong about Kyle Orton!!!!!!!!!!!!!! The man is gold!!!! I know he is going to have some mediocre games in the future and someone will look back at this post and say HA you were wrong, but I will give credit where credit is due!!!! Boydy had this guy nailed and caught some flack for expressing his optimism and some of that flack came from me!!! I don't know if Boydy is a prophet or just a good judge of charchter but I won't question his calls from here on out!!!!!!

Observation 4

Where the heck did this Kool-aid thing come from? I even here it being said on Espn and elsewhere!!! Was it not Mike Clark who started this or was it someone else somewhere else. Any help here would be great!!!

Observation 5

I have adopted McD in my heart and in my head!!! I know I am a step behind the players, coaches and a lot of people at MHR but I am miles ahead of the MSM... um can someone pass me a full glass of the Kool-aid!!!!

Observation 6

The NFL did not seem to want to touch the Stoke touchdown but instead focused on the Bmarsh kickin' the ball penalty... bummer so this is gonna generate a poll...

Observation 7

Retired

Observation 8

Some Espn reporter shot out the possibility of Shanny taking over the Bolts and I started to feel a little panic and then all of a sudden I didn't... hmmmmmmmm

Poll

So what camp are you in when it comes to goal line receptions? I hope I am not completely behind the times but after reading the Stoke touchdown post comments I thought this would be a good poll.

Two feet in endzone, possesion, ball anywhere, meaning plane of goal is not different than other three boundaries

35 votes

Two feet in endzone, possesion, ball past plane of goal, meaning plane of goal is different than other three boundaries

13 votes

In stokes case it doesn't matter cuz he caght it in the endzone

34 votes

82 votes | Poll has closed

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Welcome to the 13-3 crowd

Nice to see another member. I’ve been a resident of La La Land from the time I joined MHR — and had a few people thinking I was less than sane (but that’s an occupational hazard for a special ed teacher, so no worries).

Responses to your observations:

— We’re an unbelievable (though that is changing with many MSM writers) because no-one believed that we could survive the turmoil of the off-season. What Bowlen and McD did defied conventional wisdom.

— I totally agree. If the opponent is a good sport, I just want a win. If they’re arrogant, I want to rub their noses in my win.

— Agreed on boydy’s assessment. He swayed me very quickly into the Orton camp. I still have a gut feeling that Orton will prove to be a very special quarterback in McD’s system.

— the kool-aid is prepared in a very special apparatus deep in the heart of La La Land. I thought Mike had started it, but I seem to recall him commenting that someone else had originated the expression. Btw, if you take up residence in La La Land, you’ll have kool-aid on tap in the kitchen. :D

— this is me passing you a full pitcher of kool-aid. Better late to the party than never showing up at all.

— the MSM showed some smarts, they’re already looking foolish for having dissed the Broncos throughout the off season and through the first 3 or 4 games of the regular season, so they’re not wanting to continue to look like fools.

"The best defense is a good offense. Or is it the other way around." Wolverine
Pray for the best, prepare for the worst, and know you will come down somewhere between the two.
Livin' in La La Land and Lovin' It

by BShrout on Oct 21, 2009 8:53 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs

good hearing from ya B

ain’t this fun… I was so hoarse after the game Monday night… for some reason Monday is just a little more special, maybe it’s the wait, anyway hope you and yours is doing great and my invitation stands if your ever up this way let me know and we’ll share a game!!!

"even a stopped clock is right twice a day" Yosemite Sam

by lovewatchinthegame on Oct 21, 2009 9:06 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

there was a girl scout meeting going on here

so i was watching the game in my daughter’s room, and my wife and daughter demanded that I come running out to tell them every time something good happened (they did get to watch most of the 1st half, and about 1/2 of the 4th quarter) and we all went nuts at the end of the game.

I’ll ditto your invite, if you ever find yourself in so cal, let me know & we can catch our Broncos on TV

by BShrout on Oct 21, 2009 10:02 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

we get down there once or twice a year to see the in-laws so I look ya up if we make it down there this season!!!

Thanks!!!

"even a stopped clock is right twice a day" Yosemite Sam

by lovewatchinthegame on Oct 21, 2009 10:23 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

Oh by the way I added an 8th observation what did you think about that one?

"even a stopped clock is right twice a day" Yosemite Sam

by lovewatchinthegame on Oct 21, 2009 10:29 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

well, he already has the basic personnel to duplicate his last 10 years of coaching

;-p

I’ve heard his name bandied about a lot with various teams. I think if he went to SD, the Chargers would have to dump A J Smith as GM, the two of them would never be able to coexist in the same front office.

by BShrout on Oct 21, 2009 10:42 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

I think your right...

then again maybe he has a new found humility and wants to just coach… or maybe we’ll see him do a “Big Tuna” thing and just stay in the front office somewhere

"even a stopped clock is right twice a day" Yosemite Sam

by lovewatchinthegame on Oct 21, 2009 10:47 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

why did all my numbers change to a "1"?

by BShrout on Oct 21, 2009 10:40 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

things that make ya go hmmmmmmmm

"even a stopped clock is right twice a day" Yosemite Sam

by lovewatchinthegame on Oct 21, 2009 10:46 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

About the poll..

I remember in one of the Steelers-Ravens games last year, someone (Holmes?) caught the ball right on the goal line like that, with their feet in the end zone. The debate when the call was challenged was: did the ball break the plane? Even though it was called a TD, it was not because the receiver had both feet in, but because the ball had broken the plane.

"Really, I'm a high-motor guy. Tough, hard-nosed, a hard runner, can make you miss at times. And just competitive. I love to play the game and I bring that energy to my team. So, we'll see how that goes." - Knowshon Moreno

Knowshon Moreno=ROY

by stedtfeld on Oct 21, 2009 9:04 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs

Let me tell ya I think I read every post FINALLY on this post...

http://www.milehighreport.com/2009/10/20/1092408/if-you-find-you-have-to-defend
and I still am not sure, I thought Spocks post on that site referencing that NFL replay had pretty much put it to bed but I thought I would throw it out there.

"even a stopped clock is right twice a day" Yosemite Sam

by lovewatchinthegame on Oct 21, 2009 9:09 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

I think a lot of it's based on perspective

people forget the “plane of the endzone” sits on the front edge of the white line that marks the beginning of the end zone.

And the refs did not see anything which would convince them to overturn the call on the field.

by BShrout on Oct 21, 2009 10:04 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

Hooray for taking a baseball bat to the dead horse

They actually said that the play was confirmed, not that the play stands. The difference is, “we don’t have proof that the ruling on the field is wrong, so let’s go with that,” versus, “Norv is an idiot and the TD is absolutely a TD.”

by RaRaDonk89 on Oct 21, 2009 10:48 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

ROTF and LOL

“I just got a visual” of someone just whacking away at a dead horse and it was sooooooo pitiful and I was trying to see how that correlated to Bshrouts reply and then I remembered the 350 + replies on the other post and I am sure if you read every one of those it would be like that poor individual I had a vision of at the beginning of this reply. Either way I did see another picture today that sure looked like Stoke was over the line and had the ball in his possession before he rolled out of the EZ just my two cents.

"even a stopped clock is right twice a day" Yosemite Sam

by lovewatchinthegame on Oct 21, 2009 11:04 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

in my own defense

I read the original post on stokely’s td, but chose to NOT read any of the comments. :D

by BShrout on Oct 21, 2009 11:32 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

LOL, fair enough. I can’t blame you, neither quantity or quality was very manageable for any but the most anal readers.(like yours truly)

by RaRaDonk89 on Oct 22, 2009 12:54 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

Drinking the Kool-Aid

It’s a funny expression and often used but Drinking the Kool-Aid has a deadly serious and very dark origination. It’s original meaning suggested utter devotion to a cause to the point of self destruction. It originated when the followers of the Rev Jim Jones drank cyanide laced Kool-Aid in a mass suicide at Jonestown, French Guyana in Nov 18, 1978. They drank at the behest of and devotion to their leader but it is rumored that Jones’ gunmen forced them to drink and later put a bullet in Jones’ head. 900 people died most of them children forced to Drink the Kool-Aid by their parents.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jonestown
It is very funny now a days but it originated in a situation that was utterly tragic and horrific.

broncorat

by broncorat on Oct 21, 2009 9:37 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs

One thing I'm glad was before my time......

by RaRaDonk89 on Oct 21, 2009 9:47 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

Wish I could claim that . . . ;-p

my uncle had done some accounting work for Jones before he moved to Guyana.

I’m glad that we’ve taken a dark expression and turned it into something that brings joy to people. :D

Btw, broncorat, a really big word of thanks for your explanation.

by BShrout on Oct 21, 2009 10:06 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

OMG I completely forgot about that...

I wish I hadn’t asked now… although now that time has passed and a new nuance has been added I hope the pain of those days have been eased and the expression doesn’t bring to mind the past…
WOW

"even a stopped clock is right twice a day" Yosemite Sam

by lovewatchinthegame on Oct 21, 2009 10:22 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

Love Observation #1

I pointed out virtually the same in a reply to another thread in my normal somewhat sarcastic manner.

Maybe it because we have not dominated on the scoreboard although we have done so in almost every other phase of the games we have played. Maybe it is because the pundits are still comparing the 2009 Broncos with the 2009 team, and their opponents the like.

Good to see we continue to ride our “luck” though. As long as they still keep thinking that, that we have a soft schedule, other sides are missing key players, if but for three or four plays the game could have had a different result then they will continue to misjudge us. That I rather like. They can continue to misjudge us and underrate us right through the playoffs.

I am savouring every minute of this “Lucky” season and long may it continue.

I have so many friends some I haven't even used yet

by BlobTheMagnificent on Oct 22, 2009 12:15 AM MDT reply actions 0 recs