Surprise Team of the NFL: Checking the Numbers on the Denver Broncos
Hello, Broncos fans! Congrats on the 6-0 start. I recently wrote a post analyzing the Broncos' numbers so far this season against their numbers from 2008. I contacted John, and he graciously encouraged me to share it with you here. If you enjoy this post, you can see more like it (not all about the Broncos, but mainly about the NFL) at my site, Checking the Numbers. Hope you enjoy!

Is Josh McDaniels a coaching genius? (Photo by Donald Miralle/Getty Images)
Coming into the 2009 season I, along with many others, thought that Josh McDaniels was an egomaniac who had made a huge mistake in getting rid of Jay Cutler. I know I heard at least one pundit say that the Denver Broncos’ ceiling this year was 3 or 4 wins. Well, so far, the Broncos’ are 6-0, they have the top ranked defense in points allowed (2nd in yards), Elvis Dumervil leads the league in sacks, and McDaniels is looking like a genius. In fact, Neil Paine over Pro-Football-Reference.com wrote a post showing the top season performances in Broncos’ history through the first 5 games of a season. Several players are in the top ten and several more in the top 20 in those lists.
I had planned to complete this analysis last week, but I ran into some issues with my source data. So, I decided to use data for 2009 from NFL.com, while still using 2008 data from Pro-Football-Reference.com. But, anyway, in today's post, I will compare the Bronco's statistical averages on a per game basis for 2008 against the first six games in 2009. Then, we'll take a look at the Broncos' rankings in 2008 vs. so far in 2009. And, finally, we'll compare the average rankings of their opponents' offenses and defenses from last year to this year, with a look at the rankings of their remaining opponents as well.
First, we have the comparison of the Broncos' per game averages in 2008 with those of 2009.
| Denver Broncos Year to Year Comparison | |||
| 2008 | 2009 | Yr/Yr Imp | |
| Offense | |||
| Pts/G | 23.1 | 22.2 | -0.9 |
| Yards/G | 395.81 | 368.67 | -27.15 |
| Yards/Play | 6.2 | 5.7 | -0.5 |
| Pass Yards/G | 279.44 | 236 | -43.44 |
| Pass Att/G | 38.75 | 32.33 | -6.42 |
| Pass Yds/Att | 7.3 | 7.6 | -0.3 |
| Pass INT/G | 1.13 | 0.17 | -0.96 |
| Sacks/G | 0.75 | 1.5 | 0.75 |
| Rush Yards/G | 116.38 | 132.67 | 16.29 |
| Rush Att/G | 24.19 | 30.83 | 6.65 |
| Rush Yds/Att | 4.8 | 4.3 | -0.5 |
| TD/G | 2.63 | 2.33 | -0.29 |
| Defense | |||
| Pts/G | 28 | 11 | -17 |
| Yards/G | 374.56 | 262.5 | -112.06 |
| Yards/Play | 6.1 | 4.4 | -1.7 |
| Pass Yards/G | 228.5 | 182.83 | -45.67 |
| Pass Att/G | 30.94 | 32.17 | 1.23 |
| Pass Yds/Att | 7.7 | 6.3 | -1.4 |
| Pass INT/G | 0.38 | 1 | 0.63 |
| Sacks/G | 1.63 | 3.5 | 1.88 |
| Rush Yards/G | 146.06 | 79.67 | -66.4 |
| Rush Att/G | 29.31 | 24 | -5.31 |
| Rush Yds/Att | 5.0 | 3.3 | -1.7 |
| TD/G | 3.13 | 1 | -2.13 |
As many people predicted, the passing game in 2009 is less productive in gaining yards than in 2008, but not extremely so. That is offset by the fact that INTs are way down, and the running game is more productive. So, letting Jay Cutler go has impacted the team. But surprisingly, it has been more positive than expected.
It is on the defensive side of the ball that the greatest improvements have come for Denver. They are allowing 17 fewer points per game, over 112 fewer yards per game, nearly 46 fewer passing, and over 66 fewer rushing yards per game. They are also getting more sacks and forcing more interceptions per game than last year. I think this may be the biggest surprise of all. Because Denver's defense was so porous last season, I don't know of anyone that expected them to turn into a top 2 defense in the league so quickly. Defensive Coordinator Mike Nolan has done an excellent job in getting the most out of his defense.
For comparison, here are the Broncos' offensive and defensive rankings from last year compared to this year.
| Denver Broncos' Rankings | ||
| 2008 | 2009 | |
| Off Pts | 16 | 18 |
| Off Yds | 2 | 9 |
| Off Pass Yds | 3 | 13 |
| Off Rush Yds | 12 | 7 |
| Def Pts | 30 | 1 |
| Def Yds | 29 | 2 |
| Def Pass Yds | 26 | 7 |
| Def Rush Yds | 27 | 4 |
This just again highlights how their offense is not quite as explosive, although perhaps more balanced, but their defensive is vastly improved, going from one of the bottom 5 in the league to top 10 in every category. Now that we see how much better Denver has been performing as an overall team this season, let's see if it's against comparable competition to last year. The table below shows the average opponents' offensive and defensive rankings for 2008 and so far in 2009. The third column shows the average rankings for their remaining opponents this season.
| Average Opponents' Rankings | |||
| 2008 | 2009 W1-W6 | 2009 Rem | |
| Off Pts | 16.69 | 18 | 15.1 |
| Off Yds | 16.75 | 16.67 | 16.2 |
| Off Pass Yds | 16.81 | 16.67 | 14.5 |
| Off Rush Yds | 14 | 17.83 | 21.1 |
| Def Pts | 17.63 | 17.83 | 17 |
| Def Yds | 21.13 | 21.33 | 14.4 |
| Def Pass Yds | 19.88 | 18.67 | 13.1 |
| Def Rush Yds | 20.06 | 22.17 | 18.4 |
Overall, the level of competition for this season looks quite similar to what they faced last season. Based on that, I'd conclude that Denver has made significant improvements as a team, again most particularly on the defense. When we look at the average rankings of their remaining opponents, it does appear that the rest of the schedule will be a little tougher than what they have seen so far. But, it's not a huge difference, so that would not be enough to expect a major struggle for the rest of the season.
Just a few more thoughts before I wrap up. Based on these numbers, I see no reason to suspect that the Broncos will not continue to win most of their games this season. But, in football, it is not uncommon for teams to begin to believe that they are better than they are after a hot start like this and struggle down the stretch. So, that will be McDaniels' ongoing job, to keep his team focused and avoid complacency. So far, he's off to a tremendous start.
To some extent, this team reminds me of the 2000 Baltimore Ravens. Their offense is better than that Ravens offense, and the defense is not quite as good, but they are only allowing 11 points a game which is just slightly above the 10.3 the Ravens allowed. They have a strong DC in Mike Nolan; the Ravens had Marvin Lewis. Their Head Coach was the offensive coordinator of an offense that broke the record for most points in a single season, like Billick was. And, yet, they are winning more on defense and a strong running game. And, finally, they have a veteran safety who may be a future HOFer, Brian Dawkins, who made his name with another team but is a strong team leader. This seems similar to Rod Woodson being with the Ravens.
I'm not predicting a SB win for the Broncos this year, but so far, they seem to be a solid team with the balance needed to compete for a championship. We will see if Kyle Orton can continue to be as mistake free as he has been so far and whether the team can keep their focus through the end of the season and beyond.
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Nice analysis
Thanks for taking the time to put this together.
by Flying Dutchman on Oct 22, 2009 10:12 AM MDT reply actions
Glad you like it
My pleasure
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by WolfpackSteelersFan on Oct 22, 2009 10:27 AM MDT up reply actions
Oooh
Your pic of Cowher is hard on the eyes! But a good analysis. What prompted a Steelers fan to do all that work?
IT is, and it's impossible for IT not to be.
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Haha
I’ve had that avatar since they added the capability in SBN, and you’re first one to comment on it. He does look a little mad, doesn’t he? :) I thought it kind of summed up what most people thought of when they thought of Cowher.
As far as why I did this: I enjoy looking at the numbers for teams, and the Broncos are certainly the biggest surprise so far this (except for maybe the Titans, but I didn’t figure their fans would be interested in why they’re losing). This wasn’t too much work.
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by WolfpackSteelersFan on Oct 22, 2009 10:27 AM MDT up reply actions
If facial expressions give any indication of what is on someone's mind
it was Cowher and Chuckie (Gruden), their facial expressions told it all. thanks for the analysis of the team. It has been a ride for us so far, with the “gauntlet” of games the pundits bestowed upon us as being ruthless and punishing. Well so far we have survived 3 of that the so called murderers row.
Yeah
those two guys definitely wear their hearts on their sleeves, for sure.
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by WolfpackSteelersFan on Oct 23, 2009 1:42 PM MDT up reply actions
I agree
that the two big stories (so far) of this season are the Broncos and the Titans.
IT is, and it's impossible for IT not to be.
Parmenides (5th Century B. C. Greek)
Hey where does the 18th in Scoring come from?
I keep seeing this but I can’t find it. Is is just offensive scoring and then total team scoring is what is reflected on most sites?
How do you keep the Broncos Humble?
"Just show them the film. Show them the film." - Josh McDaniels
If you go to NFL.com, you can find it
Just look for the Stats menu at the top of the page, then choose Team Stats. From there you can choose offense and then sort by Pts/G.
Or you can just click here.
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by WolfpackSteelersFan on Oct 22, 2009 2:04 PM MDT up reply actions
Thanks!
I am very encouraged by these numbers and by the fact that I expect many parts of the Broncos to just get better over the course of the season. Last year it felt like we just got worse all season.
Welcome to MHR
Nice post and rec’d. I found it most interesting that our offensive PPG is close to last years, and people think we had such an explosive offense last year. The truth is we piled up yardage but scoring average was middle of the leagues. Same is true this year but I am encouraged because the offense has dramatically improved the past two weeks with Orton taking off the glove and they seem to be clicking a little better.
"No more my bad just make the play"-McJedi
by RockyMountainThunder on Oct 22, 2009 11:01 AM MDT reply actions
I would say that we are actually more efficient offensively
Our passing yds per game is much lower and yet we’re scoring at pretty much the same level. If we can continue with the same amount of yards, I think that our scoring will actually be higher this year, as we continue to progress. I’m hoping so anyways. :)
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Thanks for the welcome
Much appreciated. I haven’t watched a ton of the Broncos’ games this year, but judging by what I saw against NE and SD, it looks like the team as a whole is making timely plays. I believe I saw on NFLN that you’re the top 4th quarter team in the NFL right now, and it certainly looked like it on MNF.
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by WolfpackSteelersFan on Oct 22, 2009 2:08 PM MDT up reply actions
Who Cares?
2008 was another year another team. This comparison is completely bogus. You might as well be comparing this year’s Steelers to last year’s Raiders.
I care. It shows what direction the team has taken.
True, this is a new team, but we aren’t trying to compare them. This is more of a contrast post than a compare post.
What I look to gain out of this post is “progress”. How is this team progressing? Are we improving in key areas over last year or are we regressing? If your team progresses, it means that your team is closer to the championship than the year before.
Look at a team like the Chargers. They have been steadily regressing since going 14-2 a few years ago.
Anyways, what is important about this post is that the changes we made in the offseason have improved our football team overall. Maybe we don’t have quite the offensive numbers we did last year, but we have more efficiency on offense.
I’m encouraged by this post because it means that this team is taking a step in the right direction. It shows that our team hasn’t regressed, but progressed.
I like it.
If Taylor Swift were to try and tackle me, I'd let her.
by Troy Hufford on Oct 22, 2009 12:50 PM MDT up reply actions
+1 KB
also If Taylor Swift wanted to tackle me I’d let her also.
I care too.
I appreciate the effort, regardless of how much time it actually took. Plus it’s nice to be able to throw out the offensive stats when I’m barraged (yet again) by how we gave up a “franchise quarterback”. Although that mindless drivel seems to be dying down somewhat…..
Thanks dude.
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by HockeyHippie on Oct 22, 2009 2:44 PM MDT up reply actions
Yeah, I hear ya. Whatever franchise quarterback means.........
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by Troy Hufford on Oct 22, 2009 3:17 PM MDT up reply actions
I'll admit
I thought it was foolish to trade Cutler, but, as they say, winning cures all ills.
Orton looks pretty solid in this offense.
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by WolfpackSteelersFan on Oct 22, 2009 5:50 PM MDT up reply actions
Why Flag Endzone's Post?
While I respectfully disagree with his opinion, nothing that he says is vulgar. His phrasing may be a bit harsh, but I certainly understand his contention that the changes in Denver’s coaching staff, personnel, and offensive and defensive schemes may make statistical comparison’s between this season and last problematic.
Flagged your flag...
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by EastCoastBronco on Oct 23, 2009 1:38 AM MDT up reply actions
Flagged your flag that flagged his flag that should have never been flagged in the first place.
flag!!!! haha
John Clayton is the head Dean at Fail University (known as F.U. in short)
Is there a game of flag football on?
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Failing to plan is planning to fail.
All I want is 53 Rod Smiths. Is that asking too much????
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Calijoefornia.
If there was, royal still would have scored twice
They barely laid a hand on him!
Moreno/Buckhalter in '09
If I flagged your flagging of the flag that flagged his flag that whouldnt have been flagged in the first place..........
will that create a rift in the universe?
If Taylor Swift were to try and tackle me, I'd let her.
by Troy Hufford on Oct 23, 2009 9:21 PM MDT up reply actions
shouldn't*
If Taylor Swift were to try and tackle me, I'd let her.
by Troy Hufford on Oct 23, 2009 9:21 PM MDT up reply actions
Lol
Oh, you guys are just a bunch of flags.
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by Steve Nichols on Oct 24, 2009 1:40 PM MDT up reply actions
Good analysis.
The only point of contention I have is with the “averages” in the last chart. Each team is different and averaging tough opponents with the horrible opponents downgrades the actual schedule. I would say that the Broncos have faced one great team in NE and three wild card hopefuls in CIN, DAL, and SD. Coming down the stretch we fact three great teams in PIT, IND, and NYG, while facing another three wild card hopefuls in SD, BAL, and PHI…the great teams are the teams I worry about. That’s where I will measure the true ability of our D. So far we knocked off one elite team and have three more on the schedule.
Overall, I liked this post and it has been rec’d for sure!
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Averaging
I have thought about that, because you’re right, it removes some of the detail that one would like in an analysis. You could have the top 8 teams in the league on your schedule and the bottom 8 teams, and it would look a mediocre schedule. In reality, no matter how bad the bad teams are, if you played the top 8 teams in the league, that’s a tough schedule. Maybe I’ll add a standard deviation column as well to give an idea of how much around the average those team ranks fall.
Appreciate all the feedback!
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by WolfpackSteelersFan on Oct 22, 2009 2:13 PM MDT up reply actions
Great analysis Wolf,
and a great read. But, it is a bit like comparing apples to oranges since the teams really have only the name Denver Broncos in common. It’s been a wild year for us with all the changes that occurred. Tt is refreshing to see just the attitude change in the locker room and on the field. This team competes form start to finish. Thanks for dropping by and see you in a couple weeks for what should be an intriging match-up.
True
I think it’s like kentuckybronco said. It shows the improvement from last year to this. The thing that is still amazing to me is how the defense has improved. I know a couple of pieces were added (although Dawkins is the only one that sticks out in my mind), but I believe the rest of the D is still largely the same from last year, correct?
Thanks!
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by WolfpackSteelersFan on Oct 22, 2009 2:18 PM MDT up reply actions
Defense
There is 8 new starters on the D this year.
by Beer30Bronco on Oct 22, 2009 2:24 PM MDT up reply actions
Wow!
Thanks, I didn’t realize that. Still, it’s surprising that a unit with that much turnover is so cohesive already.
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by WolfpackSteelersFan on Oct 22, 2009 2:34 PM MDT up reply actions
Nolan's
His, and McDaniels’ ability to look at assemble the pieces they need to run a defense is amazing.
Some of the guys were veterans who McDaniels’ knew intimately because he played against them.
One in particular Nolan knew well.
How they found guys like McBean off the Steelers I don’t know.
It is amazing how everyone they have brought in has been able to contribute and perform exactly as they needed them to so far.
How do you keep the Broncos Humble?
"Just show them the film. Show them the film." - Josh McDaniels
McBean
was actually a Shanahan find. Broncos signed him late last season after he became a roster casualty on a deep Steeler’s team. McD and Nolan had the eye to keep him though.
IT is, and it's impossible for IT not to be.
Parmenides (5th Century B. C. Greek)
McBean
I believe he was on the Steelers practice squad last year. Our fans over at Behind the Steel Curtain thought pretty highly of him down the road.
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by WolfpackSteelersFan on Oct 22, 2009 5:51 PM MDT up reply actions
It is a common practice to raid the Steelers practice squad for players when looking for a quick fit for a 3-4. McBean was one we were definitely not happy about losing. Sonny Harris this year was similar, but we got him back.
I don’t think any of us saw him playing like he is this fast though, your coaches are doing a great job.
And Kyle Orton? I lived in Chicago for a couple years, I can’t even imagine how mad they must be that Kyle Orton is playing well. It’ll be great playing you guys after our bye. After the Baltimore/Pittsburgh weeks we’ll know a lot about this years Broncos. Best of luck to you all, I’ll talk at you the week of the game probably.
by Phantaskippy on Oct 22, 2009 11:56 PM MDT up reply actions
Thanks Skippy....nice having you join us at MHR!
Those that cant coach, compete!
Failing to plan is planning to fail.
All I want is 53 Rod Smiths. Is that asking too much????
"Peyton Hillis didn’t rip the sleeves off his jersey, they flew off out of fear."
Calijoefornia.
Big camp surprise
was McBean running with the 1’s. I think most of us expected to see either a “super rookie” (Pedsecleux, Baker) or a more experienced new face (Parker, Smith) in that role. So you all weren’t the only ones thinking McBean had a way to go.
But in fact this unit as a whole has performed well beyond almost anyone’s expectations, McBean being part of the reason. Kenny Peterson and Ron Fields have also met the challenge head on and continue to develop their games. The number of sacks is indicative of that (although, truth be told, a lot of those are coverage sacks facilitated by a cagey veteran secondary).
I’ll bet McBean has fun playing against his old teammates on Monday night!
P.S.
Big ups to Wayne Nunnely, who has coached the hell out of these guys, including the DE/OLB hybrids. In camp he spent lots of time with these guys on technique – arm position, extension, footwork. Credit him with some of Dumervil’s success among others. Heck – his extra work with Jarvis Moss may have saved the perennially inactive pass rusher’s career!
Mike Nolan might not be a great head coach, but he must be an excellent DC.
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by WolfpackSteelersFan on Oct 22, 2009 2:35 PM MDT up reply actions
I'm not really that sure about that.
He is an excellent DC, I agree with that part of your sentence. His head coaching experience was in SF, where his success was directly connected with the success of Alex Smith. Any time a coach drafts a quarterback that high in the draft, he better pray really hard that the QB is not a bust. If the QB is a bust, you are as good as fired.
Alex Smith was a disappointment for the first few years of his career and the 49ers never really took off with Frank Gore. It was a pretty difficult situation for Nolan as his talent on the team wasn’t really playing up to expectations (along with injuries to Gore, in particular). He may prove to be a good head coach if he gets another opportunity with a better supporting cast.
That being said, I sure hope Nolan stays as our DC because he is OUTSTANDING.
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by Troy Hufford on Oct 22, 2009 3:24 PM MDT up reply actions
Alex Smith
Good point. I think Smith seemed to be coming along well with Norv Turner as his OC. Once that changed he regressed.
Nolan may be a solid HC at some point, but just going from my own observations of the NFL over the last 25 years, I don’t see him being a fantastic HC. He may be on the level of a Norv Turner or Wade Philips, but I don’t think he’s even on the level of a Marty Schottenheimer or Dan Reeves. And, I wouldn’t be surprised if he sticks around for a while because of the struggles in SF.
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by WolfpackSteelersFan on Oct 22, 2009 5:56 PM MDT up reply actions
I'm with you.
I wasn’t saying he could be the next Vince Lombardi, or whatever. Like you said, he could be a serviceable HC if given the right situation.
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by Troy Hufford on Oct 22, 2009 9:09 PM MDT up reply actions
Add in the fact that's he's been exposed to the Belichick head coaching system
through working with McD and there may be some attraction to hiring him.
(or should it be called the McDaniels system?)
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by orange&blue_aussie on Oct 23, 2009 4:32 AM MDT up reply actions
True
A couple of years under a different system may give Nolan a good perspective he didn’t have at SF. I will say this, he’s not as safe from being raided as, say, Cam Cameron (Ravens’ OC). Cam was 1-15 in one year at Miami, so he’s not likely to be looked at as a potential HC as soon as Nolan might. Of course, Al Davis might hire Cam . . . .
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by WolfpackSteelersFan on Oct 23, 2009 8:01 AM MDT up reply actions
Coming from the bay area
I think Nolan has just as big a scarlet L on his chest as Cam. Although all of the above is true – Alex Smith’s development, Frank Gore’s injuries, etc. – where Nolan really struggled was doing what McD has done from day one, namely getting 53 guys moving in the same direction.
During his tenure I felt like there was a constant barrage of rumor mongering, discontent and finger pointing coming out of Santa Clara. The loss of Thomas Herrian on his watch didn’t help, nor did the inevitable comparisons with Bill Walsh after his passing.
Ultimately what my buddies and I were constantly saying was that he sure played the role of head coach really well – his press conferences were good, his suits snazzy – but when it came to game day he just could not get a united, effective team on the field. In short I echo your contention – great DC, not so hot HC.
That being said, when he joined the Broncos I was ecstatic. The 49ers D showed some flashes under him and I thought he was a great choice. I am very very glad to be right on that!
+1
I appreciated the fact that the ESPN guys pointed that out when doing intros on Monday night. People don’t realize it’s more than a different scheme, it’s all new except for Champ, DJ and Doom… and even there, DJ and Doom are playing new positions. You could say 10 new starters and not be far off.
Phyllis? Phyllis? Are you there? I can't hear you anymore.
Not correct
but I believe the rest of the D is still largely the same from last year, correct?
In addition to Dawkins, new starters include Andre Goodman (FA from Miami) at CB – he’s been tremendous. Reynaldo Hill (FA from Miami) at Safety – he’s been tremendous. Andra Davis (FA from Cleveland) at ILB – he’s been tremendous. Ronnie Fields (FA from San Francisco) at NT – he’s been tremendous. Ryan McBean (FA from Pittsburgh) starts at DE. Beer 30 mentions (below) that there are 8 new starters, but I think he’s including players like Dumerville who is starting at a new position. Anyway, add in rookies Alphonso Smith (CB) and Robert Ayers (OLB) and you have a lot of new guys.
IT is, and it's impossible for IT not to be.
Parmenides (5th Century B. C. Greek)
And even most of the depth on D is new too
Reserves such as Darrell Reid, McBath, Bruton, and Baker. Smith and Ayers have already been mentioned as newbies but Mario Haggan has not.
There are not too many holdovers on this D (starting or reserve). The starters have been mentioned (DJ, Doom, & Bailey) and the few reserve holdovers that I can think of are Marcus Thomas, Woodyard, Barret, and Jack MF Williams. So that’s 7 or so players on the entire D from last year. Everyone else is new.
People can use statistics to prove anything, 87% of all people know that.
Plus
DJ and Doom are playing new positions this year
by Pat in Colorado on Oct 24, 2009 12:49 AM MDT up reply actions
Progress
A suggestion for some one less laid up than I am right now – a chart, showing the progress of the offense over the past weeks. I think that you’ll find that we’re starting to hit higher and better levels as the team plays together. After all – it was a new system and Orton was injured. After a couple of weeks of seeing him healthy, even though I predicted a stellar season for him, his play still impresses me.
Moreno/Buckhalter in '09
Another idea
I’m not sure I’d get around to it, but the chart you suggest might be more useful if it also included either the ranking of the opposing defenses or the average yards and/or points allowed by opposing defenses. If I do it, I’ll check again with John to make sure nobody else has already posted it.
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by WolfpackSteelersFan on Oct 22, 2009 6:07 PM MDT up reply actions
Doc
I had to look at your profile to make sure it was you. How you holding up, old man?
Phyllis? Phyllis? Are you there? I can't hear you anymore.
Hey, pub!
Thanks for asking. It’s healing up – a little slow, and slower than I’d like, but I can be pretty impatient at times (The persons who noted that a doc who treats himself has an idiot for a patient, as well as those who claim that docs are bad patients are, sadly, right on…). A few more weeks. I can type a little here and there now and I’m keeping some notes which is nice. It’s going to be fine. Nice of you to ask!
Moreno/Buckhalter in '09
Glad to hear you're OK
What happened? If you don’t mind my asking. 6-0 is a good healing agent, ain’t it?
IT is, and it's impossible for IT not to be.
Parmenides (5th Century B. C. Greek)
6+0 helps a lot of things?
At times I have to use a wheelchair. Recently, I was in that situation and I had to go to a government office that turned out to be a the top a a steep hill. I got there, but I pulled something badly in my right arm and shoulder making the climb. The problem spread and I lost most of the use of the arm. No worries – the disease that disabled me leaves me healing a bit slowly, so that had to get factored in but it’s coming along.
I’ve never been really good at boredom, so I’m kind of champing at the bit, but I’ll have to give it the time it takes. Patience is a virtue even if, as in my case, it’s nearly an impossible feat ;-)
Moreno/Buckhalter in '09
I'm sending good healing thoughts your way.
I didn’t realize you were having some new physical issues. Your mind is still pretty sharp so you’ll probably have pent up tons of great thoughts to send our way soon!
Imagination is more important than knowledge. A. Einstein
"6+0 helps a lot of things? "
I meant that the Broncos being 6 and 0 is good juju, and good medicine. Take care of yourself.
IT is, and it's impossible for IT not to be.
Parmenides (5th Century B. C. Greek)
Great analysis Wolfpack
Thank you for sharing this. It was a great read!
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Excellent job Wolfpack
Your’e a true football Fan. We salute you and thanks for sharing…
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by Denver Diehard on Oct 22, 2009 10:04 PM MDT reply actions
Kudos to Mile High Report
I just wanted to say thanks to everyone for your feedback and for being so welcoming to the thoughts of an outsider. I’ve been very impressed with how friendly everyone has been on here. You’ve still offered differing opinions but in a very well thought out manner. Good stuff. I’m glad so many of you liked the analysis that I presented here. Appreciate it!
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by WolfpackSteelersFan on Oct 23, 2009 8:06 AM MDT reply actions
We loved having your insight and thoughts. We look forward to the contest.
Imagination is more important than knowledge. A. Einstein
Thanks for coming. This has been a good post and great discussion.
You’re welcome back any time.
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by Troy Hufford on Oct 23, 2009 9:23 PM MDT up reply actions
Thanks. I appreciate it.
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by WolfpackSteelersFan on Oct 27, 2009 4:04 PM MDT up reply actions
thanks for coming over and sharing with us
both of my brothers are steelers fans so we are going to have one hell of a party in 3 weeks. They keep telling me that the only game the broncos will lose is against the steelers. I can live with that 15-1 and home field all the way to miami
live and die blue and orange
I hear ya
I’d feel the same way if the Steelers went 15-1 and lost to the Broncos. If the one loss was to the Ravens, Cowboys, or Pats, I’d feel different. Probably the same for you if the 1 loss was to the Raiders.
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by WolfpackSteelersFan on Oct 23, 2009 1:43 PM MDT up reply actions
So, there are good Steelers fans out there.
Thanks for posting this. The defensive stats are amazing. I can’t believe how lights out they are in the second half. Josh McDaniels is an awesome head coach. When he first came on board, I kept telling myself that he will either be a Lane Kiffin or a Mike Tomlin. I always route against the Steelers, but I have mad respect for Tomlin. And, I’m happy to say that McDaniels is definitely looking more like Mike Tomlin than Lane Kiffin.
I am going to post a link to this on my blog. Thanks again.
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by broncosculture on Oct 23, 2009 10:07 AM MDT reply actions
Of course there are!
You’re welcome, and thanks for linking to it. If McDaniels turns out to be like Tomlin, we could see some interesting battles through the next 10-15 years. That’d be cool! :)
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by WolfpackSteelersFan on Oct 23, 2009 1:46 PM MDT up reply actions
I've always liked the Steelers.
Just sayin.
Formerly known as HoosierTeacher or just HT.
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by Steve Nichols on Oct 24, 2009 1:42 PM MDT up reply actions
While I can’t say that I’ve always like the Broncos, I really did like the teams with Terrell Davis. Davis was classy. I thought Rod Smith and Ed McCaffrey were great, and Shannon Sharpe was always entertaining. Usually, I didn’t like players who talked smack, but he always seemed to be more fun than braggadocious about it. And, I always tend to have a soft spot for the aging star, so it was nice to see Elway win a championship.
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by WolfpackSteelersFan on Oct 27, 2009 4:09 PM MDT up reply actions
WSF
Thanks for putting this together. It really highlights the “move the ball but don’t score offense” Denver fielded last year.
I’ll also add that there has been a clear, steady progression of the offense this year as the players have become more and more comfortable with it and Orton’s finger has healed. I would look for continued progression for at least a few more weeks. They’re just about there.
Phyllis? Phyllis? Are you there? I can't hear you anymore.
Orton’s always been a winner in the NFL. Some guys just have a knack. I think Big Ben’s like that as well.
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by WolfpackSteelersFan on Oct 23, 2009 1:50 PM MDT up reply actions
Bronco's
Thank you very much Wolf for a great read and prospective.
This is my First Post ever here. I have been a Bronco Fan all my 50 years, put up with alot od teasing over the years.
The thing that has really impressed me to this point is this Bronco Team reminds me of the 1998 team in this aspect, they are playing as a TEAM, the are finishing play, players making tackles while apparently down and out of the play, ie….champs tackle of tomilison. They are dominating the second half of the games due to great coaching and conditioning. anyway my two cents worth.
Thanks for the kind words. Glad you like it.
Good point on the team play. The two plays that stick out in my mind are the Champ Bailey’s two passes defensed at the end of the Dallas game. I knew Champ was good, but that just solidified it in my mind. The comment about team play also reminds me of a “Sounds of the Game” segment earlier this week that showed McDaniels from the NE game, I believe. He was chewing the team out, telling them to stop saying, “My bad”, and just execute (paraphrased). I was impressed by that. It reminds me of Tomlin’s talk about the standard not changing when we have injuries.
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by WolfpackSteelersFan on Oct 23, 2009 2:05 PM MDT up reply actions
VERY Nice WolfpackSteelersFan
Character may be manifested in the great moments but it is made in the small ones -- Philip Brooks
Thanks Kaptain!
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by WolfpackSteelersFan on Oct 23, 2009 2:06 PM MDT up reply actions
Thank you, WolfpackSF,
for the fascinating facts, the intelligent conversation and the professional approach.
Good Luck to your Steelers, except, …you know.
If this be Hell, let us make the most of it!
My pleasure
I’ve enjoyed the discussion on here as much as any site I’ve been on.
And, good luck to the Broncos as well, except . . . :)
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by WolfpackSteelersFan on Oct 23, 2009 2:32 PM MDT up reply actions

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