Ask Baltimore Beatdown: Questions for the Ravens Blogger
Hey Mile High Report! It's Bruce from Baltimore Beatdown, here to welcome you all to Baltimore this Sunday, before hopefully going home with your first loss of the season. Don't know if that will happen, but us Ravens fans know that we're a lot better than our 3-3 record indicates. Three losses by a total of 12 points, all decided in the games' final moments has a lot of us pretty frustrated.
Hopefully, the Ravens can rebound from their defensive lapses late in the games and we can get them in sync with our new high flying offense as of late. I'm sure you all are hoping and thinking otherwise, but that's why I'm here. Ask any questions about this weekend's matchup and I'll stop back between now and gametime to give you my answers from a Ravens' perspective.
MHR is a great blog and while we at The Beatdown don't have anywhere near your numbers, we are loud, proud and purple and know our football. So bring it and feel free to stop by Baltimore Beatdown to join and post your thoughts as well!
Thanks!
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Hey Bruce
Thanks for stopping by. I’d agree your offense has more pop to it than it has for some time. The D has looked average so far this season at best. I know CB has been an area of concern. During the bye week have any moves taken place to address the issues there?
We were hoping around the trade deadline
that we would go out and get, say Julius Peppers, which I thought would be a great move. But nothing happened and we’re now hoping that something clicks in the defense to get it back to last year’s status.
aka 'Rexx'
by Bruce Raffel on Oct 27, 2009 3:12 PM MDT up reply actions
Thanks,
but from what I’ve seen your front seven can still get after it, with the exception of Reed the secondary hasn’t looked that strong.
Neither has Reed
But then again, he went bonkers last year after the 8th week. This time I hope it starts in week 8!
aka 'Rexx'
by Bruce Raffel on Oct 28, 2009 8:51 AM MDT up reply actions
Reed always plays nicked up
He has a nagging neck proble that will probably end his career earlier then planned but he will be out there w/ no excuses. He just needs to stop freelancing so much in these defense schemes.
aka 'Rexx'
by Bruce Raffel on Oct 30, 2009 2:32 PM MDT up reply actions
How is Trevor Pryce doing this year?
He is still a favorite of mine and the best DL we have had here in the past twenty years (IMO).
"Me fail english, that unpossible" - Ralph Wiggum
"Duffman is thrusting in the direction of the problem" - Duffman
"Good, bad, I'm the guy with the gun" - Ash from Army of Darkness
"H.I., you're young and you got your health, what you want with a job?" - Evelle from Raising Arizona
"It happens sometimes. People just explode. Natural causes." - Agent Rogersz from Repoman
Agreed
"Change is inevitable - except from vending machines."
by EastCoastBronco on Oct 27, 2009 1:03 PM MDT up reply actions
trevor seems to have lost a step
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by BaltimoreSportsFan on Oct 27, 2009 2:12 PM MDT up reply actions
Side note...
Big up on your avatar! The Broncos are my first love in all of sports, but I am also a die-hard Orioles fan! Always brightens my morning to see the old logo!
A great guy and in great shape
but getting older. If we can cover in the secondary he can reach the passer but he doesn’t have that first great move like he used to.
Drives a mean Dodge Challenger, black with tricked out rims, etc.!
aka 'Rexx'
by Bruce Raffel on Oct 27, 2009 3:13 PM MDT up reply actions
Doom doesn't count?
Guess not. What about Neil Smith? He was a major piece that brought us those two SBs.
Because Montana has no professional sports, I gotta support the land of my birth.
Socrates was once executed for 'trolling'.
Doom, did well, but not the complete DL that Trevor was
Smith was a FA that plaed a few years, to me Trevor was a dominant a DL we have had in the past 20 years, Smith was good, but his best days were before he came to Denver.
"Me fail english, that unpossible" - Ralph Wiggum
"Duffman is thrusting in the direction of the problem" - Duffman
"Good, bad, I'm the guy with the gun" - Ash from Army of Darkness
"H.I., you're young and you got your health, what you want with a job?" - Evelle from Raising Arizona
"It happens sometimes. People just explode. Natural causes." - Agent Rogersz from Repoman
Trevor
How about that ad he took out in the paper, thanking the fans of Denver for voting him onto the anniversary team? Class move by Mr. Pryce.
Has been the same guy in Baltimore
I interviewed him at Training Camp and he was as polite and accomadating as he could be. Great comments too!
aka 'Rexx'
by Bruce Raffel on Oct 29, 2009 8:00 AM MDT up reply actions
No, Doom doesn't count
He was a great pass rusher, and an above average D lineman, but not even a really good one. You’re confusing the issue as now he’s a great linebacker, but not a D lineman.
Thanks for stoppin' by, Bruce!
For the last several seasons, The Ravens have struck fear into opposing offenses with their stingy, brutal defense. They won more games from fieldgoals than anythything else. At least that’s my perception from a casual fan.
From your perspective, when ans where did the D go south? And do you think Ray Lewis will be back next year?
Yeah Ray will still be here
and leading the defense on and off the field. What a great role model for our younger LB’s and the rest of the team. The key issue I talk about until I’m red in the face on The Beatdown is our lack of a pass rush.
It’s not Rex Ryan, nor anything other than personnel not getting the job done. Without a rush, the passer makes our secondary look like crap.
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by Bruce Raffel on Oct 27, 2009 3:15 PM MDT up reply actions
Sounds like the 08 Broncos.
-Harvey J. Neptune
"Practice doesn't make perfect. PERFECT practice makes perfect." - Vince Lombardi
by HarvJNep2n on Oct 27, 2009 10:08 PM MDT up reply actions 1 recs
If you lose this game, do you see the Ravens making the playoffs?
Is this a must win for you, with Baltimore looking up at Cinncy and Pittsburgh?
"Me fail english, that unpossible" - Ralph Wiggum
"Duffman is thrusting in the direction of the problem" - Duffman
"Good, bad, I'm the guy with the gun" - Ash from Army of Darkness
"H.I., you're young and you got your health, what you want with a job?" - Evelle from Raising Arizona
"It happens sometimes. People just explode. Natural causes." - Agent Rogersz from Repoman
Right now the rest of the games on our schedule are must wins.
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by BaltimoreSportsFan on Oct 27, 2009 2:12 PM MDT up reply actions
Doubtful
Looking at the schedule, if we lose here to fall to 3-4 and with games with the Colts, Pittsburgh (twice) at Cincy, Green Bay, we’d have to go 8-1 the rest of the way, a real tall task.
aka 'Rexx'
by Bruce Raffel on Oct 27, 2009 3:16 PM MDT up reply actions
man you guys have a brutal schedule!
"Take what you can. Give nothing back!"
by Colorado_Kitten on Oct 28, 2009 2:27 PM MDT up reply actions
Hey, who'd a thunk?
That you’d go thru Dallas, NE, us, Piit and even win one of those before the season started?
aka 'Rexx'
by Bruce Raffel on Oct 29, 2009 8:02 AM MDT up reply actions
Very few............
At MHR we were pretty confident about the season, but very few of us expected to be undefeated at this point in the season. That’s for sure.
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by Troy Hufford on Oct 29, 2009 9:29 AM MDT up reply actions
Do you think Ray Lewis does a similar entrance dance when he takes a dump.
"Me fail english, that unpossible" - Ralph Wiggum
"Duffman is thrusting in the direction of the problem" - Duffman
"Good, bad, I'm the guy with the gun" - Ash from Army of Darkness
"H.I., you're young and you got your health, what you want with a job?" - Evelle from Raising Arizona
"It happens sometimes. People just explode. Natural causes." - Agent Rogersz from Repoman
by Broncoman on Oct 27, 2009 10:50 AM MDT reply actions 1 recs
Be Nice
Bruce is a guest here, but still lmao!
"No more my bad just make the play"-McJedi
by RockyMountainThunder on Oct 27, 2009 11:03 AM MDT up reply actions
Just a little joke
But I do have an image of him after going number two looking something like this:

Smoke included.
Yes, I have a sick and twisted imagination
"Me fail english, that unpossible" - Ralph Wiggum
"Duffman is thrusting in the direction of the problem" - Duffman
"Good, bad, I'm the guy with the gun" - Ash from Army of Darkness
"H.I., you're young and you got your health, what you want with a job?" - Evelle from Raising Arizona
"It happens sometimes. People just explode. Natural causes." - Agent Rogersz from Repoman
by Broncoman on Oct 27, 2009 12:44 PM MDT up reply actions 1 recs
If that's HIS smoke...
I’d hate to be in the seats behind him. Honestly, when he enters the stadium to the smoke, music and flames and does his dance, it makes the hair stand up on your arms and neck. Watching it on TV does nothing for you, being there is incredible!
aka 'Rexx'
by Bruce Raffel on Oct 27, 2009 3:17 PM MDT up reply actions 1 recs
But
maybe a better time and place for it.
IT is, and it's impossible for IT not to be.
Parmenides (5th Century B. C. Greek)
the key to having a civil board/blog/whatever
lies not just in treating each other with respect, but being able to realize and take a joke when that’s what’s been put out there…many a flame-fest has been started over an overreaction
Because Montana has no professional sports, I gotta support the land of my birth.
Socrates was once executed for 'trolling'.
by Drizzt396 on Oct 27, 2009 8:58 PM MDT up reply actions 1 recs
No worry with us
with Cleveland perhaps and this is a conference game, not a hated rivalry like in-division games are.
aka 'Rexx'
by Bruce Raffel on Oct 28, 2009 8:52 AM MDT up reply actions
Here's one:
What form has your pressure been in from the defense (blitz often?, 4-man rush?)?
Who has been the best at getting pressure on the opposing QBs this season?
"Precipitation, which side are you on?
Are you on the rise? Are you falling down?
Let me know, Come on let's go, yeah
Got some if you need it!" -EV
After rex ryan going to the jets
We’ve seemed to have a decrease in our blitzes. It’s really angers me since our secondary can easily be picked a part w/ a four man rush.
No one has really stood out this year, but if I had to name a name I’d say Suggs.
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by BaltimoreSportsFan on Oct 27, 2009 2:16 PM MDT up reply actions
Personally can't blame Suggs
as other teams see no other pass rusher to worry about so they always double Suggs and dare the rest to beat them one-on-one, which hasn’t happened.
aka 'Rexx'
by Bruce Raffel on Oct 27, 2009 3:20 PM MDT up reply actions
Four rushing plus at times a LB, but
mostly the pressure comes from our front four. Occasionally we rush a safety off the edge but we can get burnt that way. We need to get pressure off of our front four or even five to slow down the opposing QB’s from all having career days against us.
aka 'Rexx'
by Bruce Raffel on Oct 27, 2009 3:19 PM MDT up reply actions
Hey Bruce, I have a couple questions about the Ravens' passing game
1: What will the Ravens do to slow down the Broncos’ pass rush? How are your backs at picking up the blitz?
2: I haven’t watched the Ravens play much this year, but I know Flacco has had some big games. Has he been successful with the long ball, or have big passing plays tended to come from yards after the catch?
thanks for coming by and answering our questions!
Our o-line has been aces
and expect the pressure to be kept off of Flacco in my opinion. Flacco already has more long plays this season than he did all last year. He has a cannon and a good touch on the long ones. Give him time and he is so composed in he pocket that you will sit back and have to be impressed.
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by Bruce Raffel on Oct 27, 2009 3:21 PM MDT up reply actions
I don’t refute Flacco’s skills, but have you watched a Broncos game this year? If you have, I don’t know how you can say there won’t be pressure.
He doesn't chuck the ball up for grabs
He’ll throw it away or eat it and take the sack. He has thrown bad Red Zone INT’s but not under pressure, just stupid reads.
aka 'Rexx'
by Bruce Raffel on Oct 28, 2009 8:53 AM MDT up reply actions
Pressure on Flacco
The Broncos have 21 sacks on the year. That’s tied with the Eagles for 1st in the league at 3.5 sacks per game. While the Ravens O Line is good, ranking 9th in the league giving up 1.66 sacks per game, they have to go against the #1 sack generating Defense this week. I wouldn’t be so confident in expecting there to be little to no pressure on Flacco.
On the flip side, Orton should continue to have all day in the pocket. The Broncos are #6 in the league in sacks allowed giving up 1.5 per game, while BAL is middle of the pack in generating sacks, tied with 3 other teams at #16.
DOOM & Co go against a better line all week in practice than the O Line they will be facing on Sunday. I’m not trying to knock your O Line, I’m just pointing out that you are overlooking our pass rush.
People can use statistics to prove anything, 87% of all people know that.
No offense taken, but
I’ll take our o-line any day, with bookend tackles that are as good as either of yours, including Clady. Sorry, just a Ravens’ opinion. Giving up less than 2 sacks a game is pretty good protection for both of us.
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by Bruce Raffel on Oct 28, 2009 8:55 AM MDT up reply actions
That's OK - you keep your O line
We’ll keep ours… “homer-ism” aside, nothing compares to Clady and Harris isn’t too far behind.
I'm sorry,
but Clady is one of the best if not the best tackle in the game, 2.5 sacks allowed in 24 games. Not saying that the Balt. tackles aren’t good, just not really comparable to Clady.
"Really, I'm a high-motor guy. Tough, hard-nosed, a hard runner, can make you miss at times. And just competitive. I love to play the game and I bring that energy to my team. So, we'll see how that goes." - Knowshon Moreno
Knowshon Moreno=ROY
Perhaps not
but combining the two bookends, I have zero problem with our two tackles (Gaither and Oher).
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by Bruce Raffel on Oct 30, 2009 8:30 AM MDT up reply actions
They are a good couple of tackles
and I liked the Oher pick (one that Green Bay is wishing they would have made)
"Really, I'm a high-motor guy. Tough, hard-nosed, a hard runner, can make you miss at times. And just competitive. I love to play the game and I bring that energy to my team. So, we'll see how that goes." - Knowshon Moreno
Knowshon Moreno=ROY
Hi Bruce, thanks for stopping by...
I haven’t seen a Ravens game this year… I have heard you have one of the better offensive lines in the league but am not familiar with the players or scheme.
Can you comment on who is playing well or poorly on the line, and what they try to do as a unit?
Micheal Oher
Did fabulous last week even though Jared Aleen breathing down his throat for every snap.
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by BaltimoreSportsFan on Oct 27, 2009 2:17 PM MDT up reply actions
Matt Birk is the center of the line
and the vet of the unit. Our tackles, when healthy are solid, with Jared Gaither (6’9", 340) at LT and Michael Oher at RT. Our LG is Ben Grubbs, solid and RG pretty decent. They’ve held their own against some tough d-lines so far and even with Doom, I expect Flacco to be protected well.
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by Bruce Raffel on Oct 27, 2009 3:22 PM MDT up reply actions
Is Gaither going to play? And if he is do you think he is healthy? I forgot you picked up Birk, good player….
I really like Oher, his story is amazing.
Gaither is practicing
so yes, I fully expect him to be at LT and Oher at RT.
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by Bruce Raffel on Oct 28, 2009 8:55 AM MDT up reply actions
What are the keys to a raven victory In your opinion
how do you convert a third down in teh second half?
Davis and Sharpe to the Hall!
"Teamwork divides the task and double the success."
- Unknown
Pass rush, pass rush
Did I mention pass rush? If we’d had a pass rush in the first six games, we’d be either 5-1 or 6-0 as well. But we don’t and unless we can stunt or blitz you to death, Orton to Marshall and Royal worry me.
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by Bruce Raffel on Oct 27, 2009 3:23 PM MDT up reply actions
Thanks for dropping by Bruce
What is going on with McGahee these days? Is he a goal line back now?Earlier this season he had more touchdowns than anyone in the league. The few games I have watched of your team this year he is getting very few touch’s. To me it seems the 3 games you guys won he was involved, and the 3 losses he was rarely on field.
Denver rookie head coach Josh McDaniels doesn't have a grasp on how to build a team." - John Clayton, April 23rd, 2009
McGahee
He’s good if you use him in the right quanity. However we also want go get the ball to Ray Rice (who I think resemlbes Darren Sproles.) We alos Our running back-full back hybrid Le’Ron McClain who is alos a very good runner and is surprisingly agile for his size.
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by BaltimoreSportsFan on Oct 27, 2009 2:20 PM MDT up reply actions
Yeah, Rice is way better than Sproles.
2009 NBA Champions L.A Lakers
2009 NBA Finals MVP Kobe Bryant
your OC
Who OC’d LDT et al. in SD (Cam Cameron, I think) compared him more to LDT. An ‘every-down back puts up huge numbers in our system’, or something to that effect.
That would make Rice = LDT and McGahee = Sproles (overrated change-of-pace back)
Because Montana has no professional sports, I gotta support the land of my birth.
Socrates was once executed for 'trolling'.
yeah... Rice has way too much power to be compared to Sproles.
Ask Ray Lewis if he thinks he could have owned Rice like he did Sproles in that game…..
Sproles is all quicks…. a skat back. I compare him to Reggie Bush, except without the hype. The performance is similar.
Ray Rice is a stud. He’s the guy I’m most worried about. If he runs on us, we’ll have to deal with Flacco in the air. Shut down the run (tall task), and our secondary can easily cover their WRs and Heap.
Yeah, Willis has disappeared a bit
in the past two games. But then again, Ray Rice has been so good that it’s tough to find reps for Willis, who is a solid back and will get his fair shot at carries and TD’s to continue to rack up the fantasy points. But Rice is the man and leading the NFL in all purpose yards I believe.
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by Bruce Raffel on Oct 27, 2009 3:25 PM MDT up reply actions
Yeah I'm Lovin Rice right now, I've got him on two fantasy teams. He's been a beast and he is definitely better than Sproles.
Our new DOOMesday Defense!!!! YOU LIKE??????????????
Here's one
Is Ray Rice human? Or is he, in fact, a rhinoceros who has magically taken the form of a human?
Would you consider him a larger version of Maurice Jones-Drew?
Lastly, do you happen to know where he eats his gameday breakfast and what the security is like there?
Thanks.
"Change is inevitable - except from vending machines."
by EastCoastBronco on Oct 27, 2009 1:08 PM MDT reply actions
I haven't been to a game in several years
But the game I last attended I was patted down. So was everyone else. But that was ’04 so things probably changed.
And you can’t bring in outside food.
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by BaltimoreSportsFan on Oct 27, 2009 2:23 PM MDT up reply actions
Rice is close to Drew's size but
has put on about 10+ pounds of upper body muscle this season. Security pats you down above the waist at gates. Put anything (beers) in your pants and will probably be okay. Stay away from Ray, though, sicko!
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by Bruce Raffel on Oct 27, 2009 3:26 PM MDT up reply actions
I mean....
a little Visine in his milk won’t kill him or anything. He’ll be good to go for you guys bright and early Monday morning! >:-)
"Change is inevitable - except from vending machines."
by EastCoastBronco on Oct 27, 2009 8:16 PM MDT up reply actions
This week...
is the only week that I will be rooting against Ray Rice. I love watching him play (all other weeks).
Thanks Bruce!
Here are my favorite questions for any visitor from another team’s site:
1) What is the strength of your offense? Your Defense?
2) What is the weakness of your offense? Your Defense?
3) Who is someone on your team we probably haven’t heard of, but should?
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"Greater is an army of sheep led by a lion, than an army of lions led by a sheep" Defoe
1) We have a very well rounded offense. We’ve established that we can pass, and pass well. We also have the three-headed monster of Rice, McGahee and McClain. Our defense still has a great linebacking core even with the loss of Bart Scott.
2) Our weakness is recievers not named Derrick Mason. We’ve really not had consistincy (sp) from any of our other receivers. our weakness on defense is the secondary. Ed Reed hasn’t been same he’s been in year’s past. We are still waiting for a corner who can play half as good Champ Bailey, we’ve had nothing but crap.
3) I’d say Mike Oher or Ray Rice. But then again i think a good portion of the blog has heard of both of them.
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by BaltimoreSportsFan on Oct 27, 2009 2:36 PM MDT up reply actions
Answers:
1. Passing game, short passes to Rice out of backfield. Run defense (I thought), and intimidating crushing hits on opposing players that make them pay for every yard (Ray Lewis, Ed Reed).
2. Offense’s weakness is better wideouts getting open over the middle instead of sideline curls all the time. Defense’s weakness is stopping the big play, third and long and rushing the passer.
3. I love LB Jarret Johnson, from Alabama. Converted to a LB, he is a tough dude who hits as hard as anyone on the team. You WILL see him all over the field on Sunday (#95).
Thanks!
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by Bruce Raffel on Oct 27, 2009 3:29 PM MDT up reply actions
What do you feel will be the plan off attack for your D against our O?
Who will be trying to take on Clady?
What about Harris?
Have your DB’s been playing press or man?
Who will be put on Scheffler when he gets split out wide?
What about when Buck / Knowshon get split out?
Any significant injuries that might change your gameplan or did the bye week cure your ailments?
A truth can only be expressed and enveloped in words if it is one-sided. Everything that is thought and expressed in words is one-sided, only half the truth; it all lacks totality, completeness, unity.
Hopefully, if they listen to me,...
….rush the passer making Orton throw early, stopping the run.
Probably Suggs or an outside LB on Clady’s side.
DB’s not playing much of anything, looking lost out there.
Probably the “will” or the SS on Scheffler.
Any OLB on Knowshon or Buck
Flacco actually hrt his foot, where Jared Allen stepped on it while rushing (Brady would have cried for a flag!).
Thanks!
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by Bruce Raffel on Oct 27, 2009 3:32 PM MDT up reply actions
Not to be snarky, but good luck going after Clady. Putting Suggs on him, means wasting Suggs.
FWIW, if I were going after the Bronco’s, I’d stunt a lot and direct all kinds of pressure towards the middle of the OL, and especially at Ben Hamilton. That’s the weakest link in pass protection.
I agree,...
as I’d put someone else on Clady to occupy him and stunt Suggs around the rest of the line.
Good point.
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by Bruce Raffel on Oct 27, 2009 3:40 PM MDT up reply actions
ngata and suggs on the wiegmann/hamilton could be a good plan
A truth can only be expressed and enveloped in words if it is one-sided. Everything that is thought and expressed in words is one-sided, only half the truth; it all lacks totality, completeness, unity.
Good point, Todd
If they do, having Larsen back and blocking for Orton might end up being great timing. Larsen seems to block even better than Hillis at times.
Moreno/Buckhalter in '09
But does Larsen pass protect?
I’d rather have Knowshon in on those downs, personally. That kid can pick up a blitz.
by BroncosBassist on Oct 30, 2009 10:42 AM MDT up reply actions
They're best bet
would be to attach some sandbags to a cut-out poster of a Raven’s DLmen and throw that at Clady every down. It would have the same effectiveness (or lack of) at actually creating any pressure on Orton but would allow an extra Raven DLman to stay rested. ;-)
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by EastCoastBronco on Oct 27, 2009 8:21 PM MDT up reply actions 1 recs
Clady is a beast...
but when you have people like Shawn Merriman (whose fame has stayed in steroid-peak form but whose body hasn’t) making him look good it’s hard not to be :p.
Don’t get me wrong, best OL we’ve had since the Orange Hush
Because Montana has no professional sports, I gotta support the land of my birth.
Socrates was once executed for 'trolling'.
Merriman is nothing compared
to before his injury.
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by Bruce Raffel on Oct 28, 2009 8:56 AM MDT up reply actions
that's my point
his fame has stayed at its peak but his actual ability hasn’t been there since he got hurt, or stopped using steroids, or w/e
Because Montana has no professional sports, I gotta support the land of my birth.
Socrates was once executed for 'trolling'.
^Needs explaining: don't call someone asking uncomfortable, slightly antagonistic questions trolls. In all odds they probably just want to learn. It's real easy to differentiate a 'Socratic' post from a trolling one (unless you're a resident of WCG).
^Needs further explaining: I have yet to post anything on WCG, don't worry, I'm not trying to rationalize anything I've done. I've just lurked over there and man, they are the model of post-peloponnesian war Athens.
Bruce - Assuming it's the SS on Scheffler
Scheff is a 6’5, 255 TE/WR who is slightly faster than Brandon Marshall, if less athletic. Do you either have a LB who mostly covers (it’s Woodyard for us) or a SS who has considerable coverage skills?
Moreno/Buckhalter in '09
No
Scheffler looks to be a mismatch for whomever covers him. Our best bet is LB Tavares Gooden, who has decent size and is faster than most safeties. The question is his coverage skills.
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by Bruce Raffel on Oct 28, 2009 8:57 AM MDT up reply actions
Hey Bruce,
Since you’re a true Ravens fan that knows his team up and down, I have to ask you: How muich do you think you guys will lose by? I say 2 TD’s minimum.
Thanks.
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Nahhh
we look like we’re going to win every game, then yank our fans’ hearts out by snatching a last minute defeat from the jaws of victory!
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by Bruce Raffel on Oct 27, 2009 3:32 PM MDT up reply actions 1 recs
Don't be a jerk, try to remember you're a guest here
by AllBroncsallday on Oct 29, 2009 3:19 PM MDT up reply actions
Not a troll.
As you can tell, kwool is an exception around here. He likes acting foolish when other folks like yourself – who are welcome – come to exchange information. As you can also tell – most of us disagree with that behavior.
However – that’s really not an excuse for your comment. How about if we all keep it pleasant?
Moreno/Buckhalter in '09
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Because Montana has no professional sports, I gotta support the land of my birth.
Socrates was once executed for 'trolling'.
^Needs explaining: don't call someone asking uncomfortable, slightly antagonistic questions trolls. In all odds they probably just want to learn. It's real easy to differentiate a 'Socratic' post from a trolling one (unless you're a resident of WCG).
^Needs further explaining: I have yet to post anything on WCG, don't worry, I'm not trying to rationalize anything I've done. I've just lurked over there and man, they are the model of post-peloponnesian war Athens.
Let's take a look at the Ravens schedule for a moment.
Wk Date Game Time (ET) Attendance Top Passer Top Rusher Top Receiver
1 Sep 13 KC 24 @ BAL 38 Final 71,099 Joe Flacco 307 Yds (BAL) Ray Rice108 Yds (BAL) Mark Clayton 77 Yds (BAL)
2 Sep 20 BAL 31 @ SD 26 Final 66,882 Philip Rivers 436 Yds (SD) Willis McGahee 79 Yds (BAL) Vincent Jackson
141 Yds (SD)
3 Sep 27 CLE 3 @ BAL 34 Final 70,950 Joe Flacco 342 Yds (BAL) Willis McGahee 67 Yds (BAL) Derrick Mason
118 Yds (BAL)
4 Oct 04 BAL 21 @ NE 27 Final 68,756 Joe Flacco 264 Yds (BAL) Ray Rice103 Yds (BAL) Derrick Mason
88 Yds (BAL)
5 Oct 11 CIN 17 @ BAL 14 Final 71,161 Carson Palmer 271 Yds (CIN) Cedric Benson120 Yds (CIN) Chad Ochocinco 94 Yds (CIN)
6 Oct 18 BAL 31 @ MIN 33 Final 63,689 Joe Flacco 385 Yds (BAL) Adrian Peterson143 Yds (MIN) Sidney Rice
176 Yds (MIN)
The game in Sandy-Eggo was an interesting one in which the Ravens classic defense let Rivers air it out for 436 yds and pulled the win out after stopping them on their last drive.
Question #1) How has the Ravens secondary improved from that game?
Question #2) The last 2 games the Ravens defense gave up 100+ yds to Cedric Benson (120) and Adrian Peterson (143). What has happened to the Ravens run-stop defense? Can they in your honest opinion stop Buckhalter and Moreno?
Question #3) How will the Ravens offensive line protect Joe Flacco from the pressure of Doom, Davis, Holiday, DJ, Reid and Fields? To me four pretty darn good quarterbacks (Palmer,Romo, Brady and Rivers) have struggled under the Broncos pass rush so far. So what does the Ravens OLine bring to the table?
Question #4) Ray Rice and Willis Mcgahee have been the Ravens runners for the most part, how or what will the Broncos have to do to contain them?
Good luck Sunday and let the best team win!
Coming fast and furious
Doesn’t seem possible for one man to keep up with the questions. I’ll answer these four:
1) secondary is still suspect
2) no, Moreno and Buck cannot be stopped. They will both break 100 yards
3) we cannot protect Flacco. We hope he’ll be okay to play future gAmes. We thought about trying the move from the replacements where Falco throws the ball reAlly hard into the face of an oncoming defender.
4) we probably can’t run against you
the saving grace for us is that the broncos will also beat the Steelers so we won’t fall farther behind
by NDbronco on Oct 27, 2009 2:56 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions
Uhhh, just the opposite
but thanks for trying. However, after this week, I’m a Broncos fan for next week against the Steelers. Go Broncos!!!
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by Bruce Raffel on Oct 27, 2009 3:36 PM MDT up reply actions
Ouch, thanks for the memories, NOT!
1. No.
2. Who knows, but yeah, Knowshon and Buck are no AP or C. Benson (this year’s version).
3. Not worried about pass protection as our line is much better than any of those you mentioned.
4. Cannot stop them, but to contain Rice you will have to chip him out of the backfield and hope he doesn’t get the ball in space.
Thanks and good luck in staying healthy Sunday but no luck from us on the game!
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by Bruce Raffel on Oct 27, 2009 3:35 PM MDT up reply actions
Concerning #3
Your pass protection is currently ranked #9 in the league giving up 1.66 sacks per game. Cinci is #8 giving up 1.57 sacks per game, and NE is #4 giving up 1.14 sacks per game.
I wouldn’t say that your O line is “much better than any of those you mentioned.”
Our D has been tested by several good lines this year, (Dal is #10 in sacks allowed) and we are tied for 1st in the league with 3.5 sacks per game.
People can use statistics to prove anything, 87% of all people know that.
Sacks-wise, perhaps
but if you factor in the running game, where Ray Rice and Willis McGahee are averaging around 5 yards/carry, I’ll take ours over theirs, and most others as well.
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by Bruce Raffel on Oct 28, 2009 8:58 AM MDT up reply actions
Comparisons between this denver team and the Raven's championship team
These comparison’s have been made lately, what do you make of them? Personally, I think defensively they are similar; however, this Denver offense will likely be much more productive that that Raven’s offense was at the time. Would like to hear your thoughts…
MARK IT ZERO!!!!
Dude, this is a league game, this determines who enters the next round robin. Am I wrong? Am I wrong?
You mark that frame an 8, and you're entering a world of pain.
by waltersobchakbronco on Oct 27, 2009 2:31 PM MDT reply actions
very interesting
i think you guys have the upper-hand at QB. (We had Trent freakin’ Dilfer in 2000)
The comparision is a very fair one.
I now have a blog: http://justanotherbaltimoresportsblog.blogspot.com/
by BaltimoreSportsFan on Oct 27, 2009 2:38 PM MDT up reply actions
A lot of pundits think
Orton= Dilfer. I don’t believe that is accurate. That’s why I’m thinking Denver has a good shot at winning it all.
MARK IT ZERO!!!!
Dude, this is a league game, this determines who enters the next round robin. Am I wrong? Am I wrong?
You mark that frame an 8, and you're entering a world of pain.
by waltersobchakbronco on Oct 27, 2009 2:42 PM MDT up reply actions
is one of those pundits
found on the left side of that equation?
that was a joke, I’m pretty sure I’ve seen Dilfer on camera talking about how Orton was better than people think/he was
Because Montana has no professional sports, I gotta support the land of my birth.
Socrates was once executed for 'trolling'.
Dilfer
better behind a desk than he was on the field. He’s still bitter about the Ravens releasing him after the SB.
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by Bruce Raffel on Oct 28, 2009 8:59 AM MDT up reply actions
Nah, we upgraded, or so we thought
Elvis Grbac had a great Pro Bowl season the year before he came here as a free agent. He actually led us to the playoffs after RB Jamal Lewis was lost for the entire season. Dilfer never would have done that. Who knew Elvis would lose heart and even cry on the sidelines at the end of the year then quit the game? Dilfer never did anything before that magical year nor afterwards.
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by Bruce Raffel on Oct 30, 2009 2:34 PM MDT up reply actions
Grbac
is the biggest joke to ever play in this league, and the reason we won our first superbowl. In ’97 the Chiefs started Grbac, who got injured for the season. The much more talented Rich Gannon filled in and won enough games for them to clinch the division (and a bye). They put Grbac back in in the last couple weeks, I think, and though the Gannon-led Chiefs beat us either once or twice that year the Grbac version was much worse.
Because Montana has no professional sports, I gotta support the land of my birth.
Socrates was once executed for 'trolling'.
^Needs explaining: don't call someone asking uncomfortable, slightly antagonistic questions trolls. In all odds they probably just want to learn. It's real easy to differentiate a 'Socratic' post from a trolling one (unless you're a resident of WCG).
^Needs further explaining: I have yet to post anything on WCG, don't worry, I'm not trying to rationalize anything I've done. I've just lurked over there and man, they are the model of post-peloponnesian war Athens.
No Way
As much as I am a homer. That Ravens defense was either the best or 2nd best of all time (85 Bears). The Ravens didn’t score a touchdown for 5 straight games and still won a good handful of them. You couldn’t run on Siragusa and Adams in the middle and they also allowed Ray Lewis in his prime to run free. Match that with a vet secondary, we will probably never see a defense like that ever again.
Still Kyle Orton is a very good, quarterback. He is not flashy but he can make all the throws and he can read the defense.
"No more my bad just make the play"-McJedi
by RockyMountainThunder on Oct 27, 2009 3:21 PM MDT up reply actions
unfortunately, I agree
Our defense is very very disciplined, very skilled, very effective. But…. Ravens defense then was just plain demolition derby on grass.
along with Jamie Sharper, Rod Woodson, Rob Burnett…
Our receivers- Brandon Stockley, Q Ismail and Patrick Johnson with Dilfer slinging it. LOL. That’s how tremendous our D was that year. To overcome that and Brian Billick’s play calling!
I was at the Denver-Raven playoff game that year and the vision of the ball bouncing off Jamal’s hands into Sharps mitts for a TD is forever burned into my memory.
This is must win for us and the crowd will be insanely loud. This a playoff game for us.
that's what the Chargers said :p
Less antagonistically, you probably should’ve left Stokely off that list, it would’ve made your point better. Although granted he’s much better working from the slot with two solid wide-outs beside him. Not sure if he was primarily assigned a slot role right out of college back then. Really smart, great slot player though.
Also: didn’t you guys have Jamal Williams? Didn’t he run for 2000 yards one year?
Because Montana has no professional sports, I gotta support the land of my birth.
Socrates was once executed for 'trolling'.
Jamal Lewis
Had a great year, a LONG time ago. Now he’s been sentenced to Cleveland!
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by Bruce Raffel on Oct 28, 2009 9:00 AM MDT up reply actions
Perhaps a better offense
although our run game was still better then than yours is now. You have much better passing game than our SB team, no comparison there. Puh-lease, don’t even begin to mention any similarities between your defense and the Ravens 2000 defense, which was one of the top five of ALL TIME!!!
That was a silly question.
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by Bruce Raffel on Oct 27, 2009 3:37 PM MDT up reply actions
sorry guys
but i think balt will win 1 desapion 2 yeah they are 3-3 but they play like a 4-2 5-1 team but i do think IF we win we can win 14-15 games in my opipton this is are 2 toughest game benind indy
okay i have cereal palsy arhrtis and chronic fatiue as well i have a grea life loveing folks some days are better that other days i got a make a wish in 2001 saw my favorive team the broncos was the trip of the lifetime i wish everyone couild gotten to enjoy that with me i know some of u hate the broncos and that ok but i bleed organ and bule
I dunno, man. Your team looks to me a bit like a beefed up version of last years’ Broncos (sans Cutler). Your strengths are huge, but your weaknesses are big too. Thus the high scoring games. You could be in for a 9-7 game. As for the upcoming Broncos-Baltimore game, well, I don’t think it will be a blowout. I don’t care to predict the outcome, but I can’t wait to watch it.
This might be kind of broad but
how do you think the loss of rex ryan has affected your team? other teams that have lost coordinators seem a little…off.. the giants D is giving up a little more than they used to, the pats aren’t scoring as much as they used to (yay mcd :D), and i would say your defense is not as dominant as it was before. is it simply personnel? (losing rolle has to be rough, loved watching him play) or maybe players getting older?
Our D is average now BUT not by much. We might be able to flip a switch soon and become very good. We have some very strong players on D and we are still tinkering with combinations to get to the QB. Our DB’s, who take most of the blame these days, have to defend entirely too long. These poor guys are new to top it off and learning the sytem as well as their teammates.
We haven’t had a breather in quite some time as we’ve faced Rivers, Brady, Palmer and Favre. Those guys can take advantage of the least bit of confushion in the DB backfield. And in those games, only a few major breakdowns occured but the vet QB’s made them really hurt. I think you might be surprised how well we play on D this week. I think Orton is going to get sacked at least 3 times. We are really going to emphasize the rush to get this monkey off our back.
Orton getting sacked at least 3 times?
Your D has been struggling to generate a pass rush and you expect them to break out against the Broncos O Line? We have one of the best pass blocking lines in the league. We have two of the best Tackles in the game in Clady and Harris. Kuper at RG is superb & C Wiegmann went to the pro bowl last year and is still playing very well. LG Hamilton is the weakest of the group but primarily because the others are so strong. He is still above average and he holds his own. This group is currently 6th in the league giving up only 1.5 sacks per game on the year.
I think Orton is going to get sacked at least 3 times
Good luck with that.
People can use statistics to prove anything, 87% of all people know that.
i just think we’ll overemphasize the blitz to get pressure. which should net sacks BUT i can’t tell you what will happen when Orton gets the ball off. good and bad.
Not concerned about the sacks
but more concerned that we get pressure and have him throwing earlier than he wants to.
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by Bruce Raffel on Oct 30, 2009 8:32 AM MDT up reply actions
Hmmm
We haven’t had a breather in quite some time as we’ve faced Rivers, Brady, Palmer and Favre. Those guys can take advantage of the least bit of confushion in the DB backfield.
We already played and beat two of those four you mention (Rivers and Brady). Didn’t you lose to both of them? We did much better against Rivers and the Chargers than you did, also.
Btw, Orton and this Denver offense is litterally built to “take advantage of the least bit of confushion in the DB backfield”. That is Orton’s strength. That is this offense’s strength. Hit ‘em where they ain’t and exploit weaknesses and mismatches.
Wow lol I wasn't very clear there
Obviously we beat three of those four QB’s Raven mentioned, I was trying to say that Baltimore lost to two of them Palmer and Brady, even though both teams played and beat Rivers. As in… I thought it was a bad defense to bring up on Raven’s part since we beat two QB’s he was putting on a pedistool and that his team lost to. Respectfully of course. Phewww
Palmer was first game of season
and neither team looked good at all in week one. Brady was in Denver and I still say we win that game in Baltimore. Our loss to Cincy was just a flat out bomb, as we had the game in hand despite playing poorly but folded. Hopefully, that doesn’t happen again.
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by Bruce Raffel on Oct 30, 2009 8:33 AM MDT up reply actions
This team has been an offense in transition
I’ll concede that neither Cinci nor Denver looked very good in week-one, but that game bought transitioning time for us. We’re not the same team now, we have a far better offense than we did then. But any way you toss look at it, Denver beat two teams that Baltimore lost to, and beat Phillip Rivers in his house far more convincingly than Baltimore did.
I'm not a fan of giving too much credit to the DC's
Mike Nolan, Marvin Lewis, Rex Ryan. They all had something in common – Ray Lewis.
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by Bruce Raffel on Oct 28, 2009 9:02 AM MDT up reply actions
RAY LEWIS
is the best middle lb’s of all time
okay i have cereal palsy arhrtis and chronic fatiue as well i have a grea life loveing folks some days are better that other days i got a make a wish in 2001 saw my favorive team the broncos was the trip of the lifetime i wish everyone couild gotten to enjoy that with me i know some of u hate the broncos and that ok but i bleed organ and bule
by j-man on Oct 28, 2009 2:13 PM MDT up reply actions 1 recs
I don’t really have a question…but playing Baltimore always makes me nervous. This year is certainly no different.
Okay…one question: We sent you guys Shannon Sharpe and Trevor Pryce, when and how are you going to get us back?
"C" is for Championship...that's good enough for meeeee!!!
Also…now that Baltimore has a team I think we need to get Sacramento a team.
How great would it be to see a BAL SAC game?
"C" is for Championship...that's good enough for meeeee!!!
by PosterNutbag on Oct 27, 2009 8:38 PM MDT up reply actions 2 recs
(it occurs to me that this joke combined with my screen name might give you the idea that I have a preoccupation with the scrotum. I assure you I do nut…errrr….I mean “not”).
"C" is for Championship...that's good enough for meeeee!!!
by PosterNutbag on Oct 27, 2009 8:41 PM MDT up reply actions 1 recs
LMFAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHA
by RockyMountainHigh on Oct 28, 2009 12:48 AM MDT up reply actions
LOL Crazy mo fo
"Perfection is not attainable, but if we chase perfection we can catch excellence."
Vince Lombardi
by Denver_Native on Oct 29, 2009 12:23 PM MDT up reply actions
Sharpe and Pryce were great pickups
and we loved Sharpe’s great personality and Pryce is a class guy. A little over the hill, but still brings it. Vote for Sharpe into the HOF at the JC Penny site!
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by Bruce Raffel on Oct 28, 2009 9:03 AM MDT up reply actions
My question is....
Purple? Seriously? Purple?
-Harvey J. Neptune
"Practice doesn't make perfect. PERFECT practice makes perfect." - Vince Lombardi
Seriously...
This game makes me very nervous. You have the best O-line we have played, you have the best D we have played, with the possible exception of Cincy (but the jury is definitely still out). I like how our DBs match up to your receivers, and I DO think our pass rush can pressure Flacco more than he is used to, and that will give our secondary a feeding frenzy. IF your Oline holds and gives Flacco time, you say above that you still don’t really trust most of your receiving corps. I think Orton can complete passes, and every team we have played has tried to take the running game away, and force Orton to throw. The problem is that Orton is pretty damned good at throwing the ball!
My big question mark is the Ravens’ special teams. How are they, and how do they match up with the Broncos? Hopefully our recent change at punter will pin you guys deep in your own territory, but I have no idea who your return guy is.
-Harvey J. Neptune
"Practice doesn't make perfect. PERFECT practice makes perfect." - Vince Lombardi
a fine line
There is a very fine line between winning and losing in the NFL. The Broncos have won the same type of games that Baltimore has lost this season. A common opponent, Cincinnati, lost to Denver by being dominated (shut out) for 59 minutes. If you want to call the Brandon Stokely catch and touchdown lucky, then do so. But Cincinnati beat several teams, including the Ravens, on the same close type game. Denver could have lost a game like that, but they won. Also, the Denver defense is completely dominant, particularly in the 2nd half…76-10 score, 2-36 opponents 3rd down effeciency in the 2nd half as well.
True, so we can look at it both ways
That Denver is good enough to win those close games and Baltimore is not. Or, Denver could easily be 3-3 and the Ravens could just as easily be the 6-0 team in this game.
Pick your poison, I’ll take the latter, thank you very much.
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by Bruce Raffel on Oct 29, 2009 8:06 AM MDT up reply actions
If the ravens lose the next 2 games do you expect some kind of shake up ?
Somewhere on the coaching staff or some of the players ?
Who is on the bubble ( so to speak ) leading into the broncos matchup already ?
by broncosfaninphilly on Oct 28, 2009 10:17 AM MDT reply actions
No
this team is just too good to be changed, regardless of the record. Besides, we don’t have guys waiting in the wings that could do any better than what’s on the field. Perhaps some more time for our 2nd round pick, Paul Kruger, or a change at SS, but doubtful.
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by Bruce Raffel on Oct 29, 2009 8:07 AM MDT up reply actions
Random scenarios
Rank the following in terms of the most terrifying for you:
A – “Orton back to pass, throws deep to Marshall single covered…”
B – “Flacco drops back, under pressure, hit as he throws…”
C – “Hand-off Moreno, breaks a tackle at the line, he’s got space…”
D – “Royal fields the kick at the 15, breaks for the sideline, he’s got a seam…”
E – “Orton dumps off to Scheffler, breaks a tackle, running free…”
F – “The Ravens get the ball on their 20 with 2 minutes left, trailing by 4…”
Just trying to get a feel for the things that worry you. Just list what has you most worried to least and add any comments you want.
For me, “Screen to Rice” is keeping me up at night.
Thanks!
Great question. I'm excited to hear a reply.
If Taylor Swift were to try and tackle me, I'd let her.
by Troy Hufford on Oct 28, 2009 1:16 PM MDT up reply actions
"A," followed by...
“A” again and again! Ouch!
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by Bruce Raffel on Oct 29, 2009 8:08 AM MDT up reply actions
I couldn't agree more.
There’s nothing scarier than BMarsh sprinting up the field with one man to beat. He won’t be outjumped and once he has the ball, he is VERY hard to bring down. Good choice.
If Taylor Swift were to try and tackle me, I'd let her.
by Troy Hufford on Oct 29, 2009 9:31 AM MDT up reply actions
Remember you said that
after Joe Coll takes us downfield for the winning TD pass (or run) with seconds to go and we win!!!
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by Bruce Raffel on Oct 30, 2009 8:36 AM MDT up reply actions
Nice...dig these types of questions
A – "Orton back to pass, throws deep to Marshall single covered…"
E – "Orton dumps off to Scheffler, breaks a tackle, running free…"
B – "Flacco drops back, under pressure, hit as he throws…"
C – "Hand-off Moreno, breaks a tackle at the line, he’s got space…"
D – "Royal fields the kick at the 15, breaks for the sideline, he’s got a seam…"
F – "The Ravens get the ball on their 20 with 2 minutes left, trailing by 4…"
"Precipitation, which side are you on?
Are you on the rise? Are you falling down?
Let me know, Come on let's go, yeah
Got some if you need it!" -EV
I don't know if I'd put the scheffler statement that high.
He isn’t “that” fast. He was run down by the chargers inside the ten. He can’t outrun the safeties and corners, but if he would switch the ball to his left and use a stiff arm (like Jeremy Shockey last week), he would be very hard to bring down.
If Taylor Swift were to try and tackle me, I'd let her.
by Troy Hufford on Oct 28, 2009 1:48 PM MDT up reply actions
I think more of this scenario when we are on their side of the field
Yeah people can catch him…but it takes two to bring him down.
"Precipitation, which side are you on?
Are you on the rise? Are you falling down?
Let me know, Come on let's go, yeah
Got some if you need it!" -EV
I'm surprised you have "F" that low
You really feel comfortable asking Flacco to drive 80 yds in 2 mins? That seems like a tall order. I’d be much less worried about a long run © or a good return (D) or a dump off to Scheffler (E).
Here is my nightmare results for each of the above:
A – “Marshall leaps up for the catch but is drilled by Reed. Incomplete and Marshall is slow to get up.”
B – “Fluttering pass is CAUGHT by Rice, he shakes a tackle and breaks into the secondary.”
C – “Lewis flies in and LEVELS Moreno. Ball pops out, and the Ravens have it!”
D – “Royal forced out at the 40.”
E – “Scheffler held up by Suggs and is finished off by Lewis. Should have be 15 on Lewis for leading with the helmet, but the officials didn’t see it. Scheffler comes out.”
F – “Nice drive by the Ravens to get to the 10 with 20 seconds left. Ravens go 3 wide with q TE. Play action to Rice, Flacco to the end zone, touchdown Todd Heap with 9 seconds remaning!”
Of all of these, I think C is most likely. I’ll be holding my teddy bear and my security blanket any time a linebacker gets a clean shot on a Denver RB.
Honestly, I think that the reason many of us don't have F very high is because of the way Denver's D has played in the second half of games.
If Taylor Swift were to try and tackle me, I'd let her.
by Troy Hufford on Oct 29, 2009 7:22 PM MDT up reply actions
+1
Nailed it…I have something this year that I haven’t had in like 3 years……….confidence in our Defense to win a game in the 4th quarter.
"Precipitation, which side are you on?
Are you on the rise? Are you falling down?
Let me know, Come on let's go, yeah
Got some if you need it!" -EV
Did I just get nard dogged?
“Nailed it!!!!”
If Taylor Swift were to try and tackle me, I'd let her.
by Troy Hufford on Oct 30, 2009 12:56 PM MDT up reply actions
I agree. I think F is a great situation for the Broncos.
I think I mistook sadaraine as listing the scenarios from the Raven’s standpoint instead of the Bronco’s.
If we have > 3 point lead late in the 3rd quarter and the Ravens have the ball short of mid-field I’ll feel like we have a great chance to win.
So do we
And I’d rather have the ball and the chance to win the game in my hands, than in the opposition’s. Any day.
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by Bruce Raffel on Oct 30, 2009 2:36 PM MDT up reply actions
Here we go..
A — ….Marshall makes the catch, shakes of some tackles at the 20, Touchdown Denver!
B — ….by Dumervil, ball falls incomplete and that is the game as Denver wins.
C — ….at the 50…to the 40….35….he’s going all the way folks.
D — ….and he…could…….go…….all…….the…..way…..Touchdown. Oh, man is this guy good.
E — ….first down Denver inside the 20.
F — ….they march down the midfield. Fourth down and they have to go for it. Game over Broncos win.
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Wow, thanks for the traffic
MHR really rocks, as you guys know your football and handle yourself a lot better than some of the teams (in division especially). Never expected so many comments and thanks for coming over to Baltimore Beatdown as well!
-Bruce
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And a might thanks to you too Bruce!
Many of us really enjoy the cross-talk…especially when it isn’t just a bunch of trash and you get to hear good solid information about the other teams you are playing!
"Precipitation, which side are you on?
Are you on the rise? Are you falling down?
Let me know, Come on let's go, yeah
Got some if you need it!" -EV
Thanks for coming, Bruce.
It’s really cool to have this kind of information going back and forth between fansites. It makes both MHR and BB more knowledgeable because of it. It’s been a great week of discussion with you and the other Ravens fans.
If Taylor Swift were to try and tackle me, I'd let her.
by Troy Hufford on Oct 29, 2009 2:32 PM MDT up reply actions
And thanks for coming over
to BB for more traffic numbers!!!
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by Bruce Raffel on Oct 30, 2009 8:36 AM MDT up reply actions
Thanks Bruce!
Our intra-division blogs can get a little intense too. It’s the nature of the beast I guess.
"C" is for Championship...that's good enough for meeeee!!!
by PosterNutbag on Oct 29, 2009 6:53 PM MDT up reply actions
Agreed
You should see what happens when we play Cleveland, Cincy and Pittsburgh. A bunch of our guys have been banned by Cleveland’s site and vice versa, and the SB Nation overlords have warned us both as well.
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by Bruce Raffel on Oct 30, 2009 8:37 AM MDT up reply actions
Same here with oakland, SD and KC.
If Taylor Swift were to try and tackle me, I'd let her.
by Troy Hufford on Oct 30, 2009 11:31 AM MDT up reply actions
The questions aren't over yet, Bruce. I'm still curious to learn more about the Ravens. lol
Looking at your defense the last few weeks, I have noticed a lot of big plays. Against the vikings, for instance, the defense held AP in check, holding him under 3 yard per carry …… except for those long runs.
Why are the Ravens giving up so many big plays? Is it broken tackles or missed assignments? Who is to blame, most of the time, for these plays happening? Dline? LB? Secondary?
Lastly, you answered that you would be scared to see Marshall running up the sidelines with only one defender on him. Assuming the Ravens account for Marshall being a threat and decide to double cover him, who would you say the Ravens will have the most trouble stopping?
If Taylor Swift were to try and tackle me, I'd let her.
Ravens Issues
We are not winning the time of possession battle so the opponents are getting so many more plays than us on offense and there’s just so many chances for those great skills guys to break one, as they have in each game it seems.
If Marshall is covered (which I seriously doubt), then my concern switches to Scheffler, over the middle for first downs and drive extending plays. The Ravens have given up a bunch of third and long first downs which is so damn frustrating and hopefully we can limit those mistakes.
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by Bruce Raffel on Oct 29, 2009 1:39 PM MDT up reply actions
OK we have heard it said that the Ravens are 3-3 but only lost those 3 games by 11 points.
But we don’t hear anything about them giving up 77 points in that 3 game stretch. It really doesn’t matter if they lost all three games by a total of 3 points, the fact is they still lost and didn’t find a way to win. And we all know in the nfl every game is as important as the next one especially if your in a division of very tough teams that don’t look as though they are going to slow down.
That’s alot of points for a team considered to be one of the best defense in the league, what are they going to do to right the ship on defense?
Who knows?
I was hoping to see that big trade at the deadline, such as getting Julius Peppers from Carolina. Would have been a great pickup for us, saving for the Panthers and erased our pass pressure issues, thereby making our CB’s much better overnight.
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by Bruce Raffel on Oct 30, 2009 8:39 AM MDT up reply actions
no longer considered one of the best.
to right the ship we just need time. it comes down to 4 guys- Foxworth, Fabian Washinton, Frank Walker and Landry. they are the ones preventing our pass rush because we cannot trust any of them at this point.
landry is coming off a major neck injury. foxy is new and has never really been a starter. he gets 7 million a year and started about 5 games last year for the falcons (?). fabian and walker lack concentration. they are there to make plays but don’t have the ‘go get it’ attitude or size. they also get flagged too often and get out of position. great speed though.
all this hurts ed reed who gambles to make up for the mess. we just need time but after sunday i may feel different. they just may stink.
Foxy started his career over here
He had flashes of greatness here, but was too inconsistent. I think part of the blame is the fact that his systems seem to change every year. The Broncos had a merry-go-round with DC’s, then he gets bumped to the Falcons, and now he’s with you guys. A few years in one, consistent system could do him wonders. I still have a soft spot for him and wish him well on Monday and the rest of the year.
by rollinthunder on Oct 30, 2009 4:33 PM MDT up reply actions
Thanks for all your time Bruce
First, let me just say that I’ve participated in these talks each week since week-one, and each week I’ve taken a respectfully brash tone. I didn’t feel the Broncos were in jeopardy of losing any of those. I felt that we were the better team going into each of those games and that we would play like it. That said, I actually think this game will come down to big plays and/or turnovers. A few weeks ago, I thought Baltimore was the real deal. I still think that, even if the wins haven’t agreed lately.
So, I’ve read all the comments, and I think I understand your outlook pretty well. My remaining standout question relates to our WR’s. Whether your 2ndary is bad, or the pass rush is making them look bad, it’s obvious that you fans see the passing game as a weak link. I know Jackson and 85 had great days against the Ravens, but I’m wondering more about that. Due to the weaknesses, are those type of #1 WR’s generally double covered now? Were they then? I guess I’m really asking, how do you expect the team to deal with Marshall AND Royal (not to mention Gaff, Stokely, etc..)? Or in even other words yet, is your #1 cb a weaker link against a #1 wr, or is your #2 cb a weaker link going against a Royal-like #2 receiver?
Oh, quickly, side question. Fantasy related. My TE is on a bye. It sounds like your team doesn’t blitz a lot, is that right? Rely on a four-man rush generally? I’m betting that should free up Scheffler for the passing game if he doesn’t have to stay home and pass protect. Any thoughts there?
Thanks again for comming by. Good luck to health, as this should be a VERY physical game.
Thanks for the comment and question
Great thoughts there. Scheffler should be able to get out into space and work against our coverage. I think you’ll be fine in pass protection (unfortunately) with your basic protection package. As far as the problems in our secondary, Ed Reed has got to stop freelancing too much and start providing weak side backup on the deep side of the field. We need to put a CB up on the line and not let your WR’s get open on the short slant that leads to big YAC. Our safeties need to provide coverage in back of the wideouts and our safeties, LB’s, nickel and dime backs need to shadow better and limit the big plays in the middle of the field, where we’ve been susceptible.
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by Bruce Raffel on Oct 30, 2009 8:44 AM MDT up reply actions
Thanks Bruce
elvisalex had a great digested summary in the original 5am post above, but I think his first question is still hanging out there:
If the Ravens decide that Marshall is #1, scheme to discipline Reed into coverage support rather than trying to score or knock guys out of the game…. what do you do when Eddie Royal or Gaffney morph into a #1 receiver, which both of them have proven capacity to do?
The more I think about it, the more I share your oft-mentioned concern about, for example, Scheffler (i.e. that he creates big mis-matches) – but I think its not so much that you don’t have a player to match up against him (Reed) but that that player is desparately needed elsewhere.
Should be fun. I can’t wait to see what we do against, IMHO, the first beast tailback on our schedule (I know, Cinci and Dallas have studs, but Cinci was gelling, and I just assume everyone on Dallas’ roster is over-hyped and soft).
Good luck on the injury front for both sides, and thanks again.
"Aggression, discipline, accountability, effort" Brian Dawkins 9/29/2009
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by PositivIntegral on Oct 30, 2009 12:05 PM MDT up reply actions
Okay, then I'll try, Positiv
Ed Reed won’t be assigned to anyone, including Scheffler, as he is the FREE safety and will roam, but hopefully not too far. Either a safety, nickel, dime or LB will hopefully stick with him. Royal or Stokely will garner 1-1 attention and hopefuly Orton doesn’t take advantage of that (Gaffney as well). We’ve made average QB’s and WR’s look above average.
Once again, though, it all depends on our ass rush and I’ll say it until I’m Bronco’s blue in the face. Get it done up front and our coverage will look a heck of a lot better.
Jeezy peezy! 200 comments on one topic is about what we get over at The Beatdown on ‘Open Threads!’ You’re wearing me out, but good! Thanks!
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by Bruce Raffel on Oct 30, 2009 2:40 PM MDT up reply actions
HA! LOOK AT WHAT I ACCIDENTLY SAID!!!
it all depends on our ass rush
Now is that what we call “Freudian!?”
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by Bruce Raffel on Oct 30, 2009 2:41 PM MDT up reply actions
I was so going to point that out
LOL
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Are you on the rise? Are you falling down?
Let me know, Come on let's go, yeah
Got some if you need it!" -EV
tell the broncos
to watch out!
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by Jeremy Bolander on Oct 30, 2009 5:06 PM MDT up reply actions
LOL
it all depends on our ass rush
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by Chiefs_10_TG on Nov 18, 2009 12:56 PM MST up reply actions
Thanks to each of you for the insight
The 2009 Broncos are chameleons; The defense disguises and adapts, and schemes are often not what they appear to be. The offense is predicated on smart game scheming and taking what the defense gives you.
With Baltimore’s pass defense being what it is, I would expect to see Denver pass to setup the run. The dink and dunk should serve well, but I can’t figure how Orton doesn’t give Royal a great day in the vertical game.
In short, the more I hear about Baltimore’s glaring weakness, the more confidence I feel. Denver is at the top of the league in its scheming to exploit known weaknesses. On the other side of that, the Broncos don’t have a glaring weakness. I’m not calling them a Super Bowl team, but we certainly field a very well rounded team.
I’m beginning to think that Baltimore’s defense should be on the field much of the game and frustrated.
I have no further questions.
Man….. I hate the losing, but the Ravens played lights out! I’d rather lose to a great team than to be blown up by, say, the raiders a la 2008. Ravens fans should be excited about their team.
I’m still excited about my B roncos. This is what they needed!
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Congratulations
REMATCH – AFC Championship game, in Denver, looking forward to it.
"Aggression, discipline, accountability, effort" Brian Dawkins 9/29/2009
"Life is a daring adventure or nothing." Helen Keller
"He will always be a slave who does not know how to live upon a little" Horace
Thanks again, MHR
for the great week of banter and opinions. Seems like my Ravens listened more to me that your Broncos did to you guys.
Too bad your fans got kicked out of the game but seems like they just refused to comply. Anyway, good talking to you and now we Ravens fans become Broncos fans for the next week at least! BEAT PITTSBURGH!
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I wouldn't say I refused to comply...
…. I would say that I refused to continue to submit myself to further discrimination based on the color of my jersey. All other NFL stadiums I’ve been to have told the “down in front” home town screamers that ALL fans have a right to stand in front of their paid seats as long as they remain respectful in all other regards.
We weren’t trying to be jerks. In the end Mr Cline gave us a mocking smile and a little wave of his hand. I do not like that man, but I will hear his side of the story soon.
Great win yesterday nonetheless Bruce. You guys played very impressively. We had quite a few Ravens fans buy us drinks at the bar up the road from the stadium, so thanks for that.



























