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'98 Mind Boggling Parallels (Okay, not that many, but quite a few)

    I originally did a post on this topic after a television commentator mentioned during the broadcast of the New England-Denver game that the last time Denver started 5-0 was in 1998, which is also the last time the Broncos went to the Super Bowl.  One responder to the post objected to the comparison, suggesting that the 2009 Broncos are not comparable to the 1998 Broncos. 

    I wanted to revisit the subject because of the increasing number of parallels.  I also wanted to remind anyone who chooses to wade through this article, that I am not attempting to suggest that the '09 Broncos are better than, or even as good as, the '98 Broncos.  That would be like comparing apples and oranges. 

    What I am suggesting is that, so far in this season, there have been a number of intriguing parallels between what happened in 1998, and what is happening in 2009.

The parallels -- after the jump

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1)We play 12 of the same teams that we played in '98.
Oakland, San Diego, and Kansas City are all played twice.
The NFC East -- Dallas, New York Giants, Philadelphia, and Washington
2 AFC teams -- Cincinnati and New England

2)We play 10 of those twelve games in the same location.
Oakland, Kansas City, and San Diego are all played at home and away.
We hosted New England and Dallas in both years
We played Cincinnati and Washington in their home stadiums.

3)Both years we had our bye week in Week 7.

4)Both years we entered the bye week with a 6-0 record.

5)Both years we beat New England, Dallas and Oakland prior to the bye week.

6)Our quarterbacks were sacked almost the same number of times in the first 6 games.
Elway 8, Orton 9

7)The Broncos sacked opposing quarterbacks almost the same number of times in the first 6 games.
'98 - 20 sacks
'09 - 21 sacks

8)In both years, the interceptions in the first 6 games were almost identical.
'98 - 7 interceptions
'09 - 6 interceptions

9)In both years, we beat the Bengals in Cincinnati (12-7 in 09, 33-26 in 98)

10)In both years, we beat Dallas in Denver (17-10 in 09, 42-23 in 98)

11)In both years, we beat the Raiders in Oakland (23-3 in 09, 34-17 in 98)

12)In both years, we beat the Chargers in San Diego (34-23 in 09, 31-16 in 98)

13)In both years, we won 3 games at home and 3 games away in our first 6 games

14)In both years, we beat 2 divisional opponents in the first 6 games.

15)Passer statistics are very similar for the first 6 games.
Elway 60.4% completion rate, 8.0 average/attempt, 101.5 passer rating, 8 sacks.
Orton 63.9% completion rate, 7.6 average/attempt, 100.1 passer rating, 9 sacks

16)Forced fumbles are similar: 98 -- 8 forced fumbles, 09 -- 10 forced fumbles

17)In 98, Elway averaged 6 different receivers per game during the first 6 games, in 09, Orton has average 7 different receivers per game.

    Just to warn you, if this pattern of similarities continues, you will see additional updates to this post.  :D

And I'm hoping the parallels continue all the way to game 19:
    '98 Denver beats Atlanta 34-19 in the Super Bowl
    '09 Denver ??????

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I love it

I would like to see these similiarities continue to be pointed out. Great post!

MARK IT ZERO!!!!
Dude, this is a league game, this determines who enters the next round robin. Am I wrong? Am I wrong?
You mark that frame an 8, and you're entering a world of pain.

by waltersobchakbronco on Oct 27, 2009 9:56 PM MDT reply actions  

I'm hoping to update this every couple of weeks

especially if we keep on winning. LOL

"The best defense is a good offense. Or is it the other way around." Wolverine
Pray for the best, prepare for the worst, and know you will come down somewhere between the two.
Livin' in La La Land and Lovin' It

by Brian Shrout on Oct 27, 2009 11:34 PM MDT up reply actions  

ALSO....... Denver Wins the Super Bowl

shortly after Mike Shanahan takes Wade Phillips’ job….. LOL

-Harvey J. Neptune

"Practice doesn't make perfect. PERFECT practice makes perfect." - Vince Lombardi

by HarvJNep2n on Oct 27, 2009 10:03 PM MDT reply actions  

Wow these are great. These are like the Lincoln/Kennedy parallels....

-Harvey J. Neptune

"Practice doesn't make perfect. PERFECT practice makes perfect." - Vince Lombardi

by HarvJNep2n on Oct 27, 2009 10:04 PM MDT reply actions  

Shrout....Creepy, Dude.

I especially like the Elway to Orton comparisons, since Orton can’t even get himself into the conversation with Cutler. How many yards did Elway have compared to Orton at that time, do you know?

Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man.

by TJ Johnson on Oct 27, 2009 11:23 PM MDT reply actions  

through 6 games

Orton has 1465 yards, 9 TDs and 1 Interception
Elway had 1344 yards, 14 TDs and 5 Interceptions

I didn’t originally include these stats because they were particularly close (other than the yardage stat) and I was afraid that some folks might think I was trying to “Cutler-ize” Orton by claiming that he was better than Elway.

"The best defense is a good offense. Or is it the other way around." Wolverine
Pray for the best, prepare for the worst, and know you will come down somewhere between the two.
Livin' in La La Land and Lovin' It

by Brian Shrout on Oct 27, 2009 11:44 PM MDT up reply actions  

Well, leave it to me to bring them up!

I promise we’ll beat those guys down if they say that.

By the way, I don’t think Brian Griese is the 2nd coming of Joe Montana, but I really like his color on the Broncos’ radio broadcasts the few times he has been on.

Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man.

by TJ Johnson on Oct 28, 2009 12:37 AM MDT up reply actions  

Does this mean the Giants knock us off of our perfect record like in 98?

by Rain on Oct 28, 2009 12:44 AM MDT reply actions  

Oh my goodness.

How sick would that be? It’s like a parallel universe.

If Taylor Swift were to try and tackle me, I'd let her.

by Troy Hufford on Oct 28, 2009 6:30 AM MDT up reply actions  

This is cool

Back in ’98 Shanny let Robinson be aggressive with the D. He used blitzes a lot and the D just attacked. Wonder where Shanny lost the will to keep the D like that?
Also, in ’98 I missed Jumpy Geathers and his “forklift” pass rushing style. Man, that guy was a true beast when healthy.

Make those miracles happen - Jon Keyworth

by IgorBStrange on Oct 28, 2009 3:21 AM MDT reply actions  

Deja Vu or just Eerie?

I’m hoping for Deja Vu. I’m hoping for more updates to come.

Who filled my beer mug with Kool-Aid?

by Beer30Bronco on Oct 28, 2009 8:12 AM MDT reply actions  

I'm pulling for history to repeat itself

go 14-2 and win the Super Bowl. :D

13-3 until we aren’t!!!

"The best defense is a good offense. Or is it the other way around." Wolverine
Pray for the best, prepare for the worst, and know you will come down somewhere between the two.
Livin' in La La Land and Lovin' It

by Brian Shrout on Oct 28, 2009 9:17 AM MDT up reply actions  

There are some similarities of the two teams, but it stops there.

Terrell Davis was tearing up the sod with his rushing and we haven’t really done that yet this year. Let’s hope we get it going on that plane. Red Zone TD passes was John Elway’s bench mark with Ed McCaffrey and Rod Smith. We’re coming around to it. Jason Elam was awesome in the kicking game, will Prater step up to the pump in the clutch?

Let’s hope we continue the “trend to the end”. Great work B.

by bfree2bronc on Oct 28, 2009 8:22 AM MDT reply actions  

I agree about the rushing game

the 98 Broncos had something along the lines of 300-400 more rushing yards than the 09 Broncos do at this point in the season.

"The best defense is a good offense. Or is it the other way around." Wolverine
Pray for the best, prepare for the worst, and know you will come down somewhere between the two.
Livin' in La La Land and Lovin' It

by Brian Shrout on Oct 28, 2009 9:16 AM MDT up reply actions  

Minnesota

Also Minnesota was 6-1 in 98 in week 8 led by a QB that many felt was washed up

by OrangeCrush4082 on Oct 28, 2009 10:20 AM MDT reply actions  

Cool, thanks for adding that item

I must admit, I was focusing strictly on the Broncos in both those years. Great find

"The best defense is a good offense. Or is it the other way around." Wolverine
Pray for the best, prepare for the worst, and know you will come down somewhere between the two.
Livin' in La La Land and Lovin' It

by Brian Shrout on Oct 28, 2009 10:47 AM MDT up reply actions  

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