Mythbusters: What's really true!
As I read articles online and in newspapers, there are so many half-truths, mistatements, and right out lies that I feel compelled to write an article debunking some of the myths that you may read about it in the paper. Now while most of what I'm about to say is opinion, I'll try to back it up with facts as much as possible.
Myth #1: Kyle Orton does not have a strong arm
Kyle Orton does have a strong arm. He has proven he can throw it at least 65 yards down field. But further more, if you watched the Chargers game, Orton had a pass to Gaffney about 25 yards down field that had some real zip to it. Plus, peolple tend to think throwing deep is all about arm strength, but in truth it requires a great amount of touch to deliver it over linebackers heads and into a recievers bread basket. Look at Orton's TD pass to Tony Scheffler. It was a thing of touch beauty. Does Orton have as strong an arm as Jay Cutler? No, but if you ask Jay neither did John Elway so Orton is in pretty good company
Myth #2: Eddie Royal is a good reciever but is less effective if you press coverage him
I can't remember where I read or heard this but it goes to show you that because Eddie Royal is 5'10" 180 pounds he must not be able to beat press coverage. Actually this is one of Eddie's strengths. At the NFL combine Eddie Royal bench pressed 225 pounds 24 times. Jarvis Moss only did 17 (of course Jarvis does have much longer arms than Eddie Royal and that does skew the bench press numbers a little bit to be misleading). Nevertheless, watching Eddie on video tape he is very good at getting off the bump. Against New England in overtime on a 3rd and 1 Eddie was bumped by the cornerback, but with a quick move to the outside, a strong slapping away of the corners hands, Eddie got the release on the inside for the slant route and a first down. He can beat bump and run or press coverage.
Myth #3 Pat Bowlen stated he has short term memory loss so Jay Cutler must be telling the truth that Bowlen did not try to contact him
This is one of my biggest pet peeves. First Bowlen I guarantee you is still in charge of all his faculties. Second, short term memory loss usually starts with small things like where did I put my car keys or what do I want to get at the grocery store. It usually wouldn't cause someone to forget something like, gee I need to talk to my pro bowl quarterback to clear the air, did I call and reach out to him yet. Furthermore, I'm sure that Josh McDaniels and Brian Xanders were also aware of Bowlen reaching out to Cutler. I am sure they weren't like "Oh Pat, did you call Jay" and I'm sure Pat wasn't like "You know it was on my to do list but I'm not sure if I called him or not" B.S. Pat called him, Jay didn't call back, Jay was traded, end of story. Future lesson, don't disrespect the man who signs your paychecks.
Myth #4 Josh McDaniels is a Bill Belichick clone
I, along with many others have written about this before but the truth is Josh couldn't more different from Bill. Now they do share similar philosophies on injuries, the draft, and team mentality However, Bill is a grumpy old man, who is dismissive with the press, comes across as very angry after wins and can seem very arrogant. Josh McDaniels has been accused of being arrogant, smug, and a complete control freak. I find the very opposite to be true. McDaniels could easily after 6-0 said "I told you so" but all he's said is that the team is off to a good start and they haven't won anything yet. He is not a control freak. Look at how much freedom Kyle Orton has a the line of scrimmage. Jay Cutler and Jake Plummer never seemed to have the freedom to change plays at the line or change up protection scheme. (Brian Griese did get this freedome but he's probably one of the smartest QB's to every play) McD trusts his quarterback. Plus McDaniels shows emotion after wins, which I love, and he'll probably be upset after losses, but gracious in defeat.
Myth #5 Ryan Clady is a good left tackle
Got ya, just making sure I still have your attention. Clady isn't a good left tackle though, he is a great left tackle and getting better at run blocking. In fact, much to my father's dismay, I stated that Clady would wind up being even better than Gary Zimmerman. Not a shot at Gary, just shows how good I think Ryan is.
Quick Hitting Thoughts that are a bit against conventional wisdom
Tony Gonzalez is a great pass catching tight end, but Daniel Graham is a complete player. Much better blocker than Gonzalez and very underrated as a pass catcher and athlete in the open field.
Terrance Cody will be a great player but I wonder for how long. That's a lot of weight to hold up over a pro career, especially in the trenches.
This is a pass happy league. While this is true, the Steelers (twice) the Giants, and the Colts have won Super Bowls with very good running games. In fact, when the Patriots were winning Super Bowls they won them with defense and Corey Dillion. Tom Brady is a great player but the fact is that the Patriots haven't won the Super Bowl since he started to air it out more. Which is why I am glad the Broncos are very balanced on offense this year. Many people thought McD was just a pass happy freak, turns out, he tailors his offense to the defense they're playing and his own teams strengths.
And finally...Why did ESPN hire Teddy Bruschi. All he does is talk about the Patriots. It's not like we were lacking for coverage of the Patriots on that channel. Plus he is still talking this year like the Patriots are the greatest team ever. REALLY! They lost to the Denver Broncos, one of the worst teams in the NFL (according to his colleagues) how embarrasing is that. Tom Jackson and Schlereth are former Broncos but TJ can be fair and balanced, even if he is a homer, and Schlereth I think goes out of his way to prove he is not a homer.
Have a great week everyone, and Go Broncos, Beat Baltimore.
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Myth # 1 Ortons arm strength
I also remember that pass to gaffney . Orton fired that thing down the field Equal to
most of the top QB s in the game . After that play i wondered to myself Dam they
said that orton lacked arm strength . I did not see it there .
Good post REC ed
by broncosfaninphilly on Oct 28, 2009 10:35 AM MDT reply actions 0 recs
While most equate distance thrown to indicate arm strength,
I’d like to point out that getting zip on the ball so it reachs the receiver quickly is probably a better indicator of arm strength. Most passes aren’t that long, probably 5 to 15 yards. Getting the ball there quickly is key. Orton can do both. He also knows when to put “touch” on the ball or to just throw it away to avoid a sack or int opportunity. He is just one smart QB.
by bchiper on Oct 28, 2009 12:47 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
My favorite example of this
The Dallas game TD throw to Knowshon , beating Anthony Spencer.
If that was a “strong-armed” QB that makes that throw, it’s “wow he zipped that ball in there”. Since it was Orton, it’s “that sure was lucky, should’ve been intercepted”.
Funny, that…
by AllBroncsallday on Oct 29, 2009 3:41 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
You're right
People look for the “WOW” factor and never acknowledge the workman QB. I also love this statement. “He can make all the throws”, when they should just say “man this guy wows me”.
by bchiper on Oct 29, 2009 3:52 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
My Dad is a funny guy
We were discussing football last night and this is what he said to me “Ah Jay Cutler, the Sebastian Janikowski of quarterbacks.” Ouch!
"No more my bad just make the play"-McJedi
by RockyMountainThunder on Oct 28, 2009 10:44 AM MDT reply actions 4 recs
OUCH!!!
My name is Sadaraine and I approve this message.
ROTFLMAO….how friggin hilarious!
"Precipitation, which side are you on?
Are you on the rise? Are you falling down?
Let me know, Come on let's go, yeah
Got some if you need it!" -EV
by sadaraine on Oct 28, 2009 10:56 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Awesome!
Love that quote. Tweet it!
Verbose in style, dispersion of thought, procrastination in life.
The guy formerly known as ZAPPA
by Tim Lynch on Oct 28, 2009 11:13 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Or....Windy City???? HAAAA! Just kidding, Zappa.
Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man.
by TJ Johnson on Oct 29, 2009 10:16 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
RMT
Now that is tradmarkable!!!
Please please please please can I steal this line for my next Stats that Don’t Lie post?
Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man.
by TJ Johnson on Oct 29, 2009 10:12 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Of course you can steal that.
Please, have at it, we’re all friends here.
Speaking of friends. Whatever happened to Raider Pete
"No more my bad just make the play"-McJedi
by RockyMountainThunder on Oct 30, 2009 9:43 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Forgive My Ignorance
but I don’t get the joke relating Cutler & Janikowski.
by Endzone on Oct 29, 2009 10:28 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
If you measured % body fat, they would probably rank the same
Janikowski is renown for being a “fat” kicker with a few more chins than your average guy.
Janikowski certainly has had more legal troubles than Jay, however. It appears he likes himself some HGH, some partying, and bribing cops. The bribing was a particularly good story, and will have to end up in Raider Limerick someday.
Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man.
by TJ Johnson on Oct 29, 2009 11:23 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well...
Janikowski is well-known for having a HUGE leg, able to make kicks that other kickers can’t. However, he’s very inconsistent and prone to chocking.
I’ll let you finish the rest of the comparison. :)
"Don't feed the trolls. Remember to be polite. And please show self-restraint in comment length!" -Me, to myself, because I need constant reminding.
by Disco_Stu on Oct 29, 2009 12:05 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah I think....
My dad was relating to the fact that Janikowski has the potential to be one of the greatest kickers but would you want him on your team. No, he is so inconsistent and I’ve only personally seen him make one clutch kick. But Shanny had called a timeout and he missed the next one. Strong leg, strong arm, does not make great kicker, great Quarterback.
"No more my bad just make the play"-McJedi
by RockyMountainThunder on Oct 30, 2009 9:45 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm with you about Bruschi.
It really bugs me. There are 31 other teams in the league. The Patriots aren’t the best team in the NFL and shouldn’t be discussed in every football conversation.
If Taylor Swift were to try and tackle me, I'd let her.
by kentuckybronco on Oct 28, 2009 11:19 AM MDT reply actions 0 recs
And what about the "stroke" he had while celebrating a Super Bowl win?
That may be what it really was, but I’m a little suspicious it may have been a slight OD. Since then I’ve called him “Tootski”
"Remember, it's only a game."
by robswenson on Oct 28, 2009 12:53 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Rob - You're not correct, my friend
If you’re a bit suspicious, sure, if that’s your thing, but Bruschi was born with a defect in his heart that caused a stroke. He could have died, and his trek back from disability to play pro ball again was laudable and unique. The heart defect was also fixed via surgery.
Call him what you want, but I call him courageous as hell. By the way, there’s a book called Never Give Up that you really should consider reading.
Moreno/Buckhalter in '09
by Emmett Smith on Oct 29, 2009 11:20 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
OK sorry, I stand corrected.
I hereby apologize to Bruschi (and revert to calling him his given name), and you, and the rest of the community. Thanks for correcting my ignorance.
"Remember, it's only a game."
by robswenson on Oct 29, 2009 7:09 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
No worries!
Moreno/Buckhalter in '09
by Emmett Smith on Oct 30, 2009 5:04 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Along with your thoughts about Scheffler
This kid needs to hit the weight room hard. I got his autograph in Training Camp and my arms and biceps are as big as his. Compared to Daniel Graham, well Danny boy has got some guns. Even Marshall has bigger arms. It’s no wonder the guy “Ole’s” blocks. Now, don’t tell me about body type and people being different. I understand all that. IMO, that is the biggest area of improvement Tony needs. Otherwise, move him to WR, because he doesn’t block well enough for a TE. He might want to look over his shoulder at Quinn.
Character may be manifested in the great moments but it is made in the small ones -- Philip Brooks
by KaptainKirk on Oct 28, 2009 3:29 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
Kap
I did not know you were such a “gym rat!”
Your pipes must be pythons, man! Are you sure Scheffler doesn’t have pipes?

Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man.
by TJ Johnson on Oct 29, 2009 10:15 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well
My Forearms are bigger than that picture (from pulling on pipe wrenches and come-alongs) but not as big as those biceps. I don’t know how recent that is, but they didn’t look that big in camp. Even still, Graham makes him look puny.
I’m just saying that if he were to improve this area, he could be a better blocker. Then he would be worth more money.
Character may be manifested in the great moments but it is made in the small ones -- Philip Brooks
by KaptainKirk on Oct 29, 2009 10:51 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hey Kap, you know I'm just messing with you. You know who doesn't have any biceps, though
…. a guy by the name of Tom Cable…

Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man.
by TJ Johnson on Oct 29, 2009 11:26 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
No worries Dude
I realize I may have come off as pompous. I really like Scheff.
LMAO. My arms are definitely bigger than Cable’s. I may be approaching that gut level too. ;-)
He needs to take that shirt back to the printers, it’s not finished. He needs to add the word “FAILURE.”
Thanks for the daily tromp all over the raiders Dude! AHHH HAhahahahahahahahahahaha!!!
Character may be manifested in the great moments but it is made in the small ones -- Philip Brooks
by KaptainKirk on Oct 29, 2009 12:31 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe we can get one for McJedi that just says:
FOUND
by Dwhite on Oct 29, 2009 1:28 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
- in the picture looks like he got a wiff of Cables Depends.
by raven on Oct 29, 2009 9:56 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
computer fart…I meant #75 in the picture…..
by raven on Oct 29, 2009 9:57 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Gary Zimmerman
My dentist went to high school with him.
I agree with your debunking those 5 myths and admit I had nothing else to add – other than to tell you that my dentist went to high school with Gary Zimmerman.
by Horsepower on Oct 28, 2009 9:33 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
My branch manager
played basketball in high school against Jake Plummer. Said that Jake was “very competitive.” Which is funny coming from my manager, type of guy that would go for blood in a friendly ping pong match.
by Dwhite on Oct 29, 2009 1:31 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Josh...
“Plus McDaniels shows emotion after wins, which I love, and he’ll probably be upset after losses, but gracious in defeat. "
We’ll never know.
It is amazing how many people mistake a certain hip snideness for sophistication. -- Thomas Sowell
by Trogdoor on Oct 30, 2009 2:11 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs

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