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THE CBA Part 3

At last, the 3rd part of the CBA series is here. I know you've been patiently waiting for it, so here goes. In case you missed them here is Part 1 and here is Part 2. This time around, we will be tackling the Escalation and Impact of the voiding of the CBA, and the Consequences of an Uncapped season. We will also talk about the Leverage and Who has it. It will be a long one, so grab your coffee and hang on.

 

 

 

 

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The NFL’s last lockout was in 1987, a strike that lasted 24 days. Since then, Major League Baseball, the NBA and the NHL have all had labor issues that led to missed games in each of those sports. This impending battle could be the NFL's most difficult labor impasse since the league shut down operations for two months during the 1982 season.

The last labor agreement was reached in 2006, when the owners increased the players' shares of the league's estimated $8 billion a year in revenue to 60 percent, up from 57 percent. With the salary cap increasing by at least $5 million per season, and sometimes much more, the owners say that's too much. The players are guessing the owners will seek a rollback.

That's why the National Football League Players Association leaders became worried last year when the NFL hired Bob Batterman, an NHL labor lawyer during the 2004-05 shutdown that resulted in players under contract taking a 24 percent pay cut and accepting a salary cap.

The first step to labor unrest is virtually guaranteed to happen next year when the league reaches the ominous "uncapped" year for the 2010 season. After that, owners are expected to attempt to lock out players, and legal battles will ensue. The future of the game could be decided in a courtroom.

The players believe that the owners aren’t going to play around. They’re looking at a lock out. There is talk of union busting and scare tactics to provoke the players into taking a bad deal out of desperation.

 

LEGAL PROCEEDINGS

Attorney Gregg Levy, who has represented the NFL in labor matters for approximately 20 years, recently sent a letter to all owners claiming that NFL teams were averaging $231 million in debt currently. Levy advised owners to get debt control quickly.

The players have countered with a union-commissioned study that showed the average value of the teams has grown from $288 million to $1.04 billion over 10 years, an increase of about 14 percent a year. NFLPA Executive Director Demaurice Smith said that he was not sure whether a business that generated $8 billion in revenue last year should be contemplating putting people out of work.

Ultimately, the NFL wants the entire court system to be removed from the labor process. Both Commissioner Roger Goodell and league counsel Jeff Pash acknowledged that getting the courts off the case is the goal.

The union would likely counter that the NFL has grown so drastically because of court supervision, not in spite of it. It’s hard to argue that the league is suffering in any way. For instance, the NFL announced earlier this offseason that it again broke its attendance records.

Most important, the union also has the right in the CBA to return to court and retained the right to decertify as a union in order to return to federal court.

 

THE ESCALATION

Where currently players with 4 accrued seasons can hit unrestricted free agency, an uncapped scenario would require players to complete 6 years to reach the open market if no new agreement is reached. Teams would also be able to shackle players with both a franchise tag and two transition tags per year to prevent their best players from leaving, though they also would face serious limitations in free agency. Playoff teams reaching the final 8 spots only would be able to sign a FA if they lose one of their own, and the final 4 teams could sign only one FA for every two they lose.

Opting out of the agreement triggers many things, including the possibility that there will not be a salary cap in the 2010 season and that the terms of the agreement will cease after that season. If that happens, the NFLPA expects the owners to attempt a lockout of the players, starting in March 2011. A lockout that could ultimately threaten the 2011 season.

The late Gene Upshaw, the union's executive director, said before his unexpected death last August that if the cap went away, there would not be another. The new director DeMaurice Smith has agreed with his predecessor's stand.

  "If we move to an uncapped scenario, we will not go back," Smith said during a conference call with reporters in March, days after being elected as executive director.

Ominously, both sides have begun to amass deep war chests. The players, according to NFLPA officials, have stashed away a $210 million strike fund. I appears the union is prepared to enter an uncapped year with a possible repeat of a 1987 strike. The owners' contingency is in the 10-figure category, and in its recent extensions with CBS and Fox, and its deal with DirecTV, there will be $24 billion from television revenue coming in this season. The league has included provisions to be paid even if there is a lockout two years from now.

Some players have made contingencies beyond saving money, such as going back to school. For those players that left school without a degree, that might be the smart way to go in this poor economy.

 

IMPACT OF WORK STOPPAGE

If a team wants to sign a restricted free agent, it would have to give up as much as 1st- and 3rd-round picks to get that player -- and that's before it pays him a big contract. That is a deal-breaker. Further limiting movement, teams will have an additional franchise tag to slap on players. There are also semi-complicated limits on free-agent acquisitions for the final 8 playoff teams.So, despite teams having a ton of money to spend, some of the best players might not be available.

Now you can see why so many players have been clamoring to sign long-term deals. The money they receive now could be greater than anything they could receive with their inability to test free agency unfettered.

All evidence points to 2010 being played without a salary cap. If that's so, then the list of restricted free-agents will be, by far, the best ever, including all the 4th- and 5th-year unsigned players. There are roughly 175 players who will be FA's if there’s a new CBA (with the same free agency requirements as now) but who will only be restricted FA's as we currently stand entering an uncapped year.

However, the players fear that prospect because it would affect their benefits. There would essentially be no limits on spending for players. If the labor agreement expires without a new deal in place, player salaries for 2010 won't be capped, but there won't be a minimum, either. Sure, a QB might get $10 million, but the punter signed at mid-season theoretically could be told to "take-it-or-leave-it" on a $100,000 salary. That's almost one-third the current minimum of $310,000.

The teams that are so far under the cap will be happy to see the uncapped year, even at the risk of becoming much like George Steinbrenners NY Yankees, outspending the smaller market teams. But without the Salary Cap, some teams may spend as much as they want, beyond the current maximum of $128 million, or as little as they want, since the minimum of $112.1 million would not exist either.

However, with owners saying they've girded for a 2010 season with no salary cap, the teams that drafted well this season and last season have an edge. Sure, it's exciting to think the owner of your team might break open the vault to get a premiere player, but in an uncapped 2010, those potential difference-makingFA's could have restrictions placed on them that choke off their availability and leave your needy team out of luck.

That's why so many teams are hoping they drafted well this season and do as well or better in the 2010 draft. With the free-agent pool potentially limited, some of these teams could be in the same rut they're in right now if their draft picks don't pan out. It's imperative to their success to choose wisely in the next year to be really good.

That might not be great news for bad and rebuilding teams like St. Louis, Kansas City, Buffalo or other franchises that need to upgrade their talent. It could be even worse for ailing veteran teams like Tennessee or Jacksonville, that could use free-agent help to augment their rosters since they think they can still be competitive now.

 

WHO HAS THE UPPER HAND

According to league figures, the players have received about 75 percent of revenues since 2006, while the other 25 percent has gone to costs, plus another 6 percent over that which owners have absorbed because of rising costs.

The union disputes those numbers.

"The CBA explicitly restricts player costs to just under 60 percent," NFLPA spokesman George Atallah told The Associated Press. "That is fixed."

Citing a recent survey by Forbes magazine showing 19 franchises are worth at least $1 billion, Atallah said:

 "Average team profits last year increased by 31 percent and labor costs by only 4 percent. Historical reports by Forbes also reveal that team values have increased exponentially. The Patriots, for example, increased in value from $172 million in 1994 to $1.4 billion today. That’s 713 percent in the past 15 years.(Doesn’t seem like a broken model to me).

"Just tell us directly the specifics of why this CBA is not working," he added. "We can’t be forced to negotiate over a proposal that doesn’t yet exist."

Cincinnati, St. Louis, Tampa, Jacksonville, San Francisco, Kansas City, and Miami could conceivably sit there and play with a cheaper payroll, and that wouldn’t be much different than where they are right now.

So, the small-market teams likely would stockpile bargain-basement players with contracts that are commensurate with their level of NFL experience.

More importantly, the consensus among team executives is that plenty of owners believe that they can simply pocket the savings they get in 2010 by playing for around $100 million or so. Then, the theory goes, the owners would simply renegotiate a new deal with the players that will again feature a salary cap for 2011 and beyond. And if there is a lockout in ’11, owners will still receive money from the existing broadcast deals.

One team executive said:

"The owners are going to make a point in 2010, that they can get by paying a lot less and then they’ll see how the players react,"

Can the owners finally get the leverage required to beat a union that over the past two decades has turned the tables on the power structure? Under the guidance of Gene Upshaw, NFL players now make the largest percentage of gross revenues 59%, than their counterparts in other professional sports. And what's more important, unless the League can get the federal courts to discontinue their supervision of the labor negotiations, the union will have the upper hand.

That is the question facing ownership. In the NFL, the main source of revenue is television money and that is shared among the 32 teams. Over the years, however, there has been a growing disparity in other money made by teams, from corporate sponsorship to local television and radio rights fees. When those are included, the large market teams such as Dallas and Washington far outstrip the likes of the Pittsburgh Steelers and Minnesota Vikings when it comes to earning power.

Jerry Jones is one of the large market owners that doesn't feel like sharing with the smaller market teams. He just completed a luxurious new $1 billion stadium just outside Dallas that will host the Super Bowl on Feb. 6, 2011. That could be the NFL’s last real game before the labor situation gets really ugly.


WHO HAS THE LEVERAGE

Thus, all of the actions started last November with the owners and then flowing through the courts will ultimately define who has the leverage. In short, this is how it works:

The NFL votes to opt out of the agreement in November 2008. Talks between the sides on an extension will reopen, but little progress is expected at this point unless a new deadline for an agreement is set. In 2010, the league has an uncapped year for salaries. In March 2011, the CBA expires.

Upon being locked out, the NFLPA would presumably decertify as a union, making players free individuals who aren’t subject to collective bargaining and therefore can’t be locked out. The players, as they did in the early 1990s, would then file a class-action suit against the league saying that such a lockout would be an anti-trust violation.

Again, that’s only if the court continues supervision. This is where the owners are working to change the dynamic and where the union is hoping to preserve the current state.

Here’s the basic equation: Every percentage of the total football revenue equates to roughly $2.5 million per team on the salary cap. The belief by the union’s side is that teams will lose far more than that for every game that is missed if a lockout goes into the regular season.

Thus, the union believes it clearly has the leverage. Seeing as how the NFL owners have continually leveraged the television networks into giving them what they want, that response seems almost comical.

 

STARTING SPOT

The right place to start is a place where the players understand why the owners opted out. We know that the players didn't opt out of this deal. We know the NFL generated in excess of $8 billion last year. We know that the average team has grown by 400 percent in 10 years. But what we don't know, is what is wrong with the current deal when those facts exist.

The NFL extended its television deals with Fox and CBS for two years through the 2013 season, and Goodell acknowledged those pacts allow for "flexibility" if the league added a 17th or 18th regular-season game. But it now seems likely no decision will be made until talks are held with the players.

DeMaurice Smith said players need to be aware of what's at stake for additional games.

"The players understand the cost to their bodies," he said. "The players understand how tough it is to get through a regular season. They understand how hard it is to try to stand up on a Monday morning. They understand why they need a day off on Tuesday. Their families understand when they get out of football and they have arthritis before they're 40. They understand the cost."

Well, there you have it. I hope this clears things up for many of you. I may have to do more posting on this. One more thing...

There was a really good article on the National Football Post site by Robert Boland on October 28th. The Commenter's are pretty knowledgeable too.

Is 2010 the unfloored year?


Go Broncos!

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Is 2010 the unfloored year? <—- seems to be a broken link.

I have found your series very informative and helpful. Thank you so much!

by dextermilo on Oct 30, 2009 1:14 AM MDT reply actions   0 recs

Thank you dex

The link is fixed now. I do not know what happened, but it took quite a bit to fix.

Character may be manifested in the great moments but it is made in the small ones -- Philip Brooks

by KaptainKirk on Oct 30, 2009 9:00 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Great series Kirk, I was waiting for this one. Rec'd of course

I’ve long said that I believe next year to be uncapped. There’s no pressure to get a deal done unless the courts mandate something, which again it’s doubtful that a hard date would be set until the following year when a work stoppage is immenent.

I think the reason the owners opted out is a plain old case of buyer’s remorse – I think they simply don’t like that they agreed to 59%. In any event, IMHO, it seems unlikely that teams will go on a spending spree during an uncapped year. They would be pressured by other owners to use restraint, else risk weakening the collective owners’ positions (you can’t argue for a lower cap number by arguing that money is tight while spending out of control).

I would also say that one large area where more money can and should be found is in the rookie pool. Owner’s don’t want to pay those ridiculous numbers and the union doesn’t yet represent them. When faced with a decision, IMHO, the union would throw the rookies to the wolves in order to defend veterans. A sensible cap there alone, could save teams $2M-$3M per year, or a couple percent (without taking away from veteran dollars).

Just my thoughts. Again great post. Great series

by elvisalex on Oct 30, 2009 4:26 AM MDT reply actions   0 recs

I agree with you elvisalex

You seem to have a good handle on it. now that I fixed the link, YOU would probably enjoy the discussion on the NFP article.
Thanks for the kind words.

Character may be manifested in the great moments but it is made in the small ones -- Philip Brooks

by KaptainKirk on Oct 30, 2009 9:03 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Thanks for the link

The article seems to think there will be no future salary cap. And as you noted, both Gene Upshaw and Smith have indicated that if the cap goes away, it’s unlikely to come back. But I’ve got to climb a limb here and say I disagree. As to Upshaw and Smith’s reasoning, I would say it’s maybe just tough talk and pressure tactics. As to the article’s reasoning to believe a cap won’t come back, I would say the vision is simply short-sighted.

Owners may be cash-strapped today, but when the economy eventually turns around, so will the attitude of spending. Competition is forever constant. Meaning, guys like Jerry Jones won’t spend in the middle for long. Once a bigger wallet becomes available and economic conditions permit (eventually somebody will pay for those naming rights and additional advertisement dollars will follow)… the wallet will be opened wide.

Those teams with competitive owners will then start spending freely and the disparity between their teams and lower-tier teams will become even broader. If in four years, with no cap, the Redskins are paying annual contracts of #140M and the 49ers are paying a modest, but average, $80M… it would look llike a scrimage game. The key here, is that the courts and government see that, and know that.

Not to get all political, but this current administration is already capping bankers’ salaries, and it’s not unprecedented for the government to step in during sporting disputes. I find it hard to believe that this government will allow good teams to get better and poorer market teams to get worse. But that’s just me. We won’t know for quite some time, because as I said, there’s simply no pressure to get anything done until next year.

Sorry so long. Again thanks for all the insight and work in these three posts. I learned a lot!

by elvisalex on Oct 30, 2009 4:48 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Not too long

That is one of the purposes of the comment board. You have good points. I kept most of my feelings out of the article in order to portray things so others could make up there own mind. I am a Union member so my leanings are going to be that way. I have worked for myself as well, so I can understand the point of view that the guy with the guts to gamble on his own pocketbook (or Credit) deserves to keep as much as he can because he has a risk too.
You’re right that the economy should rebound. The government will just print more money. One way or another, it will all balance out and us fans will pay for it.

Character may be manifested in the great moments but it is made in the small ones -- Philip Brooks

by KaptainKirk on Oct 30, 2009 5:38 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Personally

If a said player won’t play for a team for xxx amount of money, and expects xxxx amount of money, someone, somewhere will come and play for xxx amount.

So I think if players start having work stopages, other players will step up and play. Since I don’t believe you have to belong to the union once the CBA ends.

And if the union has been saving up for a strike fund, shouldn’t that money be used for all the medical/retirement for ex players, or is the union not responsible for any of that?

I just feel that while unions in general are sometimes good, a few steps takes them to a level that they start hurting themselves and there members more than they do good.

Quit drinking the Kool-Aid and start drinking the good stuff, and everything is always alright.

by Chuck "DeadDrunk" Breedlove on Oct 30, 2009 5:46 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

I have to sgree with you DD

Perhaps I should do a Part 4, and talk about some of that.

Character may be manifested in the great moments but it is made in the small ones -- Philip Brooks

by KaptainKirk on Oct 30, 2009 5:55 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

The owners/league will continue to pay benefits for retired players

It would be a PR nightmare to have a crippled ex-NFL player on TV talking about how he can’t feed his family due to this CBA situation.

I agree with you on unions completely. When they were started up back in Jimmy Hoffa’s day, they were needed. Workers were treated unfairly. But some of since gone too far. I point to car manufacturing as an example of what you’re talking about. It costs GM 2k more per car in manufacturing costs than its foreign and non-union competitors. Detroit pays an average payroll burden of about $75 per hour to workers (including benefits and pensions) compared to about $25 for manufacturers down south.

Unions are meant to protect the people, and often times they do. Often times they go overboard and make a company unable to compete.

by elvisalex on Oct 30, 2009 6:54 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

I also think a point we shouldn't miss here is the timing of it all

Sure, the owners feel like they deserve more. But it’s a better position to be in, to point to how bad things are going and ask for more money back in the LONG TERM when the problems you’re facing are truly only short term problems. I mean the owners will play ‘poor-us’, ‘this economy is so bad’, and point to a loss in advertising dollars to get a better long term deal that will also apply when those monies start coming back.

by elvisalex on Oct 30, 2009 6:58 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yep

Nobody wants to back down, and I think you’re right about them waiting til the last moment to make a deal.

Character may be manifested in the great moments but it is made in the small ones -- Philip Brooks

by KaptainKirk on Oct 30, 2009 7:15 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Thanks KaptainKirk

this whole series you did was really informative, learned a tonne !

I don’t have any insight at all to add to anything you have written, but definitely wanted to express my gratitude for your hard work !

by Jenna Talia on Oct 30, 2009 10:56 AM MDT reply actions   0 recs

Your welcome Jenna

thanks for reading.

Character may be manifested in the great moments but it is made in the small ones -- Philip Brooks

by KaptainKirk on Oct 30, 2009 11:06 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

An uncaped year 2010

presents an unique opportunity to adjust current contracts by reducing cap impact in future years.

Think of our 29 mil dead money. While that can’t be fixed, avoiding adding to it in the future could if Mc-X can negotiate the deferrals out of existing deals.

by el_DON_de_TAOS on Oct 30, 2009 11:20 AM MDT reply actions   0 recs

Great stuff!

I still don’t understand the half of it, but that’s why I’m an engineer and not a lawyer. There are too many points to consider and each point is weighted differently be each side. It’s not a simple matter, that’s for sure.

I just hope they work it all out. Can’t we all just get along and be friends?

Thanks,

GO BRONCOS!!!

by go4broncos on Oct 30, 2009 1:19 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

No it's definitely not simple

Labor vs. Management has been a longstanding game of give and take, but it is a giant part of capitalism that must be maintained for balance. Thanks for reading go4.
P.S. I’ll be your friend. :-)

Character may be manifested in the great moments but it is made in the small ones -- Philip Brooks

by KaptainKirk on Oct 30, 2009 4:01 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Thanks KK

I read your series and now my head is spinning with all of the information. Good thing I’m at work. lol

My thoughts are there needs to be a rookie salary cap with maybe less amount of time on the contract. 3 years? Proven players then will have an opportunity to get a new contract and bigger dollars.

Who filled my beer mug with Kool-Aid?

by Beer30Bronco on Oct 30, 2009 1:35 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

I agree with you on the Rookie Cap

The contract lengths could be part of the equation in the Labor discussions. The Economy seems to be a bigger factor than we realize, but either way, it always comes down to the money. Too bad they don’t just do it for us fans. =)

Character may be manifested in the great moments but it is made in the small ones -- Philip Brooks

by KaptainKirk on Oct 30, 2009 3:57 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Put This Article Front and Center!!! Thanks for all your work KK! Rec'd!

"So tell me what happened."
"Well, the last thing I remember is seeing this flash of Blue and Orange and the #22... then everything just went black..."

by HillisRanUover on Oct 30, 2009 2:26 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

Well

Thank You for your weekly Rant HRU! I enjoy it.

Character may be manifested in the great moments but it is made in the small ones -- Philip Brooks

by KaptainKirk on Oct 30, 2009 4:03 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Kaptain, well done, sir

Your 3-parter on the CBA has been an eye opener! I had no idea what a complicated issue this is. The rookie cap and some protection for veterans in regard to career-ending injuries should be at the forefront, IMO. Obviously, a work stoppage will only benefit the WNBA.

Thanks for all the hard work.. it is appreciated! Rec’d

" Life is what happens while you're making other plans "

by hairybear on Oct 30, 2009 4:12 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

Thank you sir.

Character may be manifested in the great moments but it is made in the small ones -- Philip Brooks

by KaptainKirk on Oct 30, 2009 4:37 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Many thanks for the series KK

You have managed to explain the intricacies of the CBA (including some information on American labour disputes) to me. I am a Trade Union Official in the UK and should naturally side with the players.

However, I think that the salaries in all sport (and entertainment) has gone through the roof. In soccer it is not unusual for average players to receive salaries of £40000 ($55000) per week. Over here they get paid for 52 weeks and not just when there are game weeks.

I understand that they entertain us, but I don’t think that they are THAT MUCH VALUE! Yet America is the land of opportunity and I don’t blame the players, who have much to lose (physical health) and relatively poor job security (I think an average of 3 years), from trying to get the best deals.

Also, even though most of these wages comes from TV revenue, we (as fans and customers) ultimately pay them through higher cable charges for watching sports channels, higher prices for goods because of higher advertising costs etc.

I believe that the TV money should be used to reduce match day ticket prices, the cost of replica shirts etc. But I do want to live in utopia after all.

Sorry for the long post, but its a subject for many drunken conversations with friends over warm pints of beer about football (soccer) in England. It can also be a schizophrenic subject matter.

Thanks again and rec’d

by CockneyBronco on Oct 30, 2009 6:39 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

No need for apologies

You have some good ideas Cockney. It would be nice if they would reduce ticket prices since they make so much television revenue, and I really don’t like the fact that a lot of the merchandise for an American Sport is being made overseas. That really puts my knickers in a bind.

Character may be manifested in the great moments but it is made in the small ones -- Philip Brooks

by KaptainKirk on Oct 30, 2009 7:13 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

A couple of random questions...

First off KK – thank you again, what an outstanding read!

1. I wonder how Green Bay is approaching this with their public ownership.
2. How will this directly project to impact the Broncos?

I know on the latter, several smart people have probably already written/speculated, and I could certainly extrapolate the impact given all of KK’s great info… but I am lazy.

by BroncoTalon on Oct 31, 2009 7:49 AM MDT reply actions   0 recs

Good questions BT

Edited from Wiki:
Typically, a team is owned by one person, partnership, or corporate entity. The Packers are the only non-profit, community-owned major league professional sports team in the United States with 111,967 stockholders. Which is pretty awesome since the city of Green Bay only has 102,313 people as of the 2000 census.

The corporation is governed by a seven-member Executive Committee, elected from a board of directors. The committee directs corporate management, approves major capital expenditures, establishes broad policy and monitors management’s performance in conducting the business and affairs of the corporation. The president is the only officer who receives compensation. The balance of the committee is sitting gratis.
This doesn’t seem like a huge problem for the Packers. You would think that with all the shareholders that there would be as much deliberation as a Union meeting, but since there is a Board of Directors, that keeps any problems to a minimum. However, I believe they would be at the same advantage/disadvantage as the other small market teams.

As for the Broncos, I would say that they are in good shape because of two things:
1. They have had a couple of good drafts lately, which means that they have young talent that is under contract.
2.They don’t have too many players that can get away from them. There is Dumervil, Marshall, Orton, Scheffler, Kuper, and LeKevin Smith. 3 of those players can be hit with either a Franchise Tag or one of two Transition Tags. That means if another team tries to sign them away, the Broncos will receive draft picks as compensation. Matt Prater will be a Restricted FA, and Josh Barrett will be an Exclusive Rights FA, so they have first rights to them. there are a few more players that were only signed to 1 year contracts, so they would be low risks to lose. Out of those first six players, you have to think that there are negotiations underway to secure their services.

Character may be manifested in the great moments but it is made in the small ones -- Philip Brooks

by KaptainKirk on Oct 31, 2009 9:45 AM MDT reply actions   0 recs

I really enjoyed this series!

Thank you very much!

One point of of concern, that others have also mentioned, is the ridiculous contracts rookies are now getting….it’s a really low percentage of high draft position rookies who actually do work their arse off and become “worth” what they are paid. That should be a no-brainer for the league and NFLPA to agree on. I’m NOT a redistribution of wealth kinda guy, but this is just plain old common sense. Also, 59% to the players is pretty ridiculous….I wonder why they ever agreed to that high a percentage…..

I’m glad the BRONCOS are in pretty good shape with younger players and better drafts lately, but I really fear this going into the court system. Courts seem to predominately side with unions….which is fine if there is truly a basis in fact for that decision. I fear that sometimes they just side that way to protect the “little guys” (59%)….

I hope that both sides can be realistic and work things out with a give and take attitude……sadly, our own government would be able to learn a lesson if that actually happened.

A proud prognostication of 10-6 in 2009!!! (April 2009 prediction)

Revised to 12-4 due to reality!

"Facts are stubborn things; and whatever may be our wishes, our inclinations, or the dictates of our passion, they cannot alter the state of facts and evidence."
John Adams

by Broncotodd on Nov 1, 2009 7:17 AM MDT reply actions   0 recs

An amazing series, Kap.

Thanks for the education and keep it coming.

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"Newbie, if the next two words out of your mouth aren't 'See ya' then the third word will be 'Oh my god. My crotch. You've punched me in my crotch." - Dr. Percival Ulysses Cox

by smudgers on Nov 2, 2009 2:51 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

I Do Not Fear A Lockout

because the economy will turn around and deep down I know the NFL is NOT stupid enough to allow this to occur. Much like the Broncos need to remember what got them to 6-0 before falling to the Ravens, the NFL cumulatively needs to remember what made them king of kings in North American sports. Both the Broncos (who will pummel the Steelers next Monday) and the NFL will bounce back. The major issue to me is ascertaining rookies do not make exorbitant amounts of money.

Brad James

by the Bradfather on Nov 2, 2009 4:10 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

well, it depends on how you define stupid.

The NFL is going to do whatever it takes so that they become as “stupid rich” as possible. If it benefits them to have a lockout, that’s what they’ll do. If it benefits them to not have a lockout, then they won’t have a lockout.

Money will decide it all.

If Taylor Swift were to try and tackle me, I'd let her.

by kentuckybronco on Nov 2, 2009 4:25 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs


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